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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 27 2015 04:24 GMT
#7561
On March 27 2015 13:22 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 13:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
As in, don't lynch me today(yesterday)


Why were you happy to get lynched next day phase but not last one

I'm like a weasel, I can always talk my way out of a lynch
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 27 2015 04:27 GMT
#7562
On March 27 2015 13:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 13:22 Breshke wrote:
On March 27 2015 13:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
As in, don't lynch me today(yesterday)


Why were you happy to get lynched next day phase but not last one

I'm like a weasel, I can always talk my way out of a lynch


its funny because i thought that was you softing the orb hence why i didn't want to lynch you because even if you are scum you softed the orb for some reason but then its come to my attention you only get notified of the orb at the start of night phase.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:46 GMT
#7563
Hey Breshke, why did you switch your vote late at EOD from Superbia to Alakaslam?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:46 GMT
#7564
You too Fecalfeast
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:47 GMT
#7565
Er, except for FF it's switch from Superbia to Onegu, lol.

Same principle tho. Both of you switched late. Why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 05:50 GMT
#7566
And Fecalfeast, you also claimed the orb. Who are you using it on and why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 05:51 GMT
#7567
Hi Eden!

Who are your top lynches for tomorrow?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 27 2015 06:03 GMT
#7568
meh, not the best lynch but not the worst one either. He was on most people's poe lists and I've fairly sure we would have lynched him either way a little more down the road. Better to do it now than to have to deal with it in some scary lylo situation.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 27 2015 06:12 GMT
#7569
On March 27 2015 14:46 Eden1892 wrote:
Hey Breshke, why did you switch your vote late at EOD from Superbia to Alakaslam?


I switched my vote from Onegu to Slam. Not from superbia i think he is town.

The onegu thing was mostly because he made a post in which i thought it was him assuming i was town then preceded to vote me. This was a misunderstanding however because he was doing his rng sheep thing. I have also since thought more on onegus mason claim and i really just dont see it coming from mafia.

Like lets assume onegu is mafia and was blocked from carrying kp on D1 who would they have been trying to kill? Also if that kill had gone through onegu would have looked doubly bad because 1 HF flipped VT and 2 they only killed HF and not onegu. I think the more likely situation is that onegu was town and RSO saved him.

I also didn't want to lynch ff at the time ebcause i thought he had softed orb.

I also didn't think ritoky was scummy. So that left me with slam who seemed to just dissapear when the pressure was off.

My problem now is that I really really still think superbia is town. I also think onegu is town. So that leaves me with ff and ritoky and means that im either wrong on superbia/onegu or there is in fact one in art/damdred which is really hard for me to see.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 27 2015 06:29 GMT
#7570
Why are people claiming orb when mafia killed cop / medic last cycle when I already explained last night that people need to shut the fuck up about the orb and not let mafia know who has it / what they're doing with it?

We got lucky last night because they apparently had to RB the medic to get rid of the cop but why would you claim to have the orb this night...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 06:32 GMT
#7571
On March 27 2015 15:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are people claiming orb when mafia killed cop / medic last cycle when I already explained last night that people need to shut the fuck up about the orb and not let mafia know who has it / what they're doing with it?

We got lucky last night because they apparently had to RB the medic to get rid of the cop but why would you claim to have the orb this night...
Oh, shoot, that makes sense...

Sorry for giving it away.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 27 2015 06:34 GMT
#7572
I'm not talking about you because it's pretty obvious what you're doing.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2015 08:17 GMT
#7573
What orb?





Trfel, idk right now. Working on it

Breshke why did you think FF softed the orb during the day? And you're saying you didn't think ritoky was mafia, but you have him listed in your mafia pile... why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 27 2015 11:48 GMT
#7574
Guys, here's my plan. Ritoky spends all day talking about why Damdred is scum tomorrow. We lynch him. If he flips mafia, we can clear Damdred since there's no way scum would bus their only buddy that's considered kind of confirmed. If he flips town, we know he's genuine in his analysis of Damdred and we take a good hard look at him.

Reasons: We have PoE if we can eliminate Damdred and we presume my town circle is correct. Also Ritoky is in the PoE list.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 27 2015 12:18 GMT
#7575
i wanna kill breshke now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 27 2015 12:39 GMT
#7576
Why Breshke, Vivax?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 27 2015 13:24 GMT
#7577
On March 27 2015 21:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why Breshke, Vivax?


He's very unopinionated in what he writes and his latest questions don't really reflect what he wanted to achieve in his latest bigger writeup, if I read quickly through his latest questions they seem completely random and lack a direction. He asks a lot of random stuff to random people, plus yesterday I made the realization how much he has been in the background for me, and how small his filter is and how his activity only peaks at key timings.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 27 2015 13:45 GMT
#7578
Damdred here with your fly by thoughts for the morning! Hope you have a wonderful morning and find this post enjoyable!

Here is a day one vote count that looks interesting to me

On March 21 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Vivax (8): Holyflare, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, rsoultin, Palmar, Damdred
Toadesstern (4): Palmar, Artanis[Xp], raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VisceraEyes, Palmar
LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke
Bill Murray (2): Holyflare, Eden1892

Not Voting (0):

Currently, Vivax is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


Look at that vivax wagon, from my reads which i'll get to in a second its amazing that only one scum was piled up on Vivax at that point in time. I also left several people uncolored because I want to talk more about them later and why i'd push them towards scum or town pile currently. From my perspective at this point scum had little to nothing to do with the vivax wagon at this point especially after the claim by toad. However look at what is probably the final vote count for day one.

On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar
Vivax (7): Holyflare, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, rsoultin, Palmar, Damdred
LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Onegu
Toadesstern (1): Palmar, Artanis[Xp], raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VisceraEyes, Palmar
sicklucker (1): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke

Not Voting (0):


Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.


Scum wanted vivax to survive for mislynch #2 I believe going into day 2. He was super divisive at the time as the game just didn't believe that there could be two vigilantes. Vivax was narrowed in as toad being the fake and he had to be lynched, Toad thought 100% vivax was mafia and needed to be lynched. And of course the likelihood of them shotting each other was pretty high during the night if true. These facts lead me to believe that while HF wanted the wagon to not lynch into the claims and control the shot that mafia helped push this wagon over the edge with the votes.

Eden is the earliest voter that isn't "confirmed". However Edens reasoning for going along with HF (plus the pushing on people and just filter length in general) points to Eden being town in this situation going along with a good plan that could very well help town

[spoilter]
On March 21 2015 06:29 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia.

Deal

If I have to sheep you to get this happen I'll just do that. Cuz this immediately occurred to me as optimal play.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Bill Murray
[/spoiler]

I find Edens response to be towny and understanding and generally Eden was really involved in the lynch up to that point and beyond. So I'm pretty sure that Eden isjust a towny following HF (which I thought anyway)

So there is at least one mafia in Breshke, Rayn/Ritoky and superbia at this point on this wagon I think.

As i'm looking through Supers filter....this post really...strikes me

On March 21 2015 05:52 Superbia wrote:
LightningStrike where the fuck you at. I know you're lurking right at this moment.



On March 21 2015 07:44 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 07:44 Palmar wrote:
I'm behind again.

What should I be doing?


Give me your thoughts on SL and LS. Though it's probably a little too late now. Probably put your vote on Bill Murray.


This post really really bothers me. Both of these posts really do Especially the comment to Palmar, the sheep onto BM also had really little to do with in the thread, I've read that part of the thread in context and as superbia is posting. And it sort of bothers me Super is soft pushing SL and LS the whole time and just gives up on it and sheeps onto HF for almost no good reason. It really bothers me

Rayn and Breshke also have no real explanation why they switch to BM.

For rayn he does scream to get toad lynched and its reasonable to expect him to hammer or tie up the votes between Bm and Vivax since vivax is currently being hard town read by Rayn. His lack of reasoning though is what bothers me in this situation, even so theres at least 3 people on the BM wagon that might switch to LS and rayn really doesn't push that angle at this point only halfway mentioned him.

Breshke is just void of almost everything at this point in the game. Nothing about Bm at all during that part of the lynch and calls out LS which is a plus...

I think theres probably two scum at least between these three and currently I think its a toss up between breshke and Super for one probably.

Moving on to what happened today.

On March 27 2015 08:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 3: Current Vote Count

Alakaslam (7): Vivax, Damdred, Breshke, Eden1892, Onegu, Artanis[Xp], Superbia
Onegu (4): Trfel, sicklucker, FecalFeast, ritoky
Superbia (2): Alakaslam, Toadesstern,



Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.
[/Blue][/b]

As i'm sure we all are aware most of us were piled up on superbia at the time before we all switched over to slam. (btw its not a bad mislynch it was pretty good at that point and saved us one later more than likely).

Now I think Oneg is town. That one post so far this night phase about being confirmed town because of a misread just screams town to me. Also his mason claim that people look at so badly... yes it was a bad play past n1 to keep it going but up until then it was an excellent play. HF saw it and I see it, mafia won't claim mason I believe it is just such a low reward high risk play. Once they find out you aren't a mason its tunnel on and you are dead. If you claim with mafia bud both of you are sacrificed for a day or so of no information about you.

Its just a bad play all around, and as such I think both main wagons at EoD were town. Once again both wagons are headed by Townies just like yesterday and mafia just poured on.

As such the mafia have to be between Breshke, FF, Superbia and Ritoky. This is the only PoE at this point that makes sense to me.

Now FF hard pushed LS, if you look in slythern mafia he did the same thing for most of the day and after that d1 case I do not think he did another case which is one of the knocks on him here. (I'm mad at you btw FF) Past d1 FF has been playing down but his d1 was really good he pressured people and pushed people, and made a decent case on LS and nothing since. Hes still a light town read at this point and if one of the other three flip town he would fall into the spot I believe.

This leaves me in a world where Rayn, Superbia both soft pushed LS day one for bad play or being largely afk. The ninja votes on Bm Ritokys, paranoia at not voting with his scum read when he is scum leaning on the person and well knows that busses happen screams as fake paranoia to me. Breshkes lack of almost anything in the thread and has been in a blind spot all game tone wise hes been ok at points but I don't see much.

I think that has to be your scum team, or pretty close
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 27 2015 13:45 GMT
#7579
oh man I screwed up that second vote count and no time to fix it le sigh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 27 2015 13:47 GMT
#7580
Though I would suggest orbing Super or FF at this point and seeing what comes up so we can home in a bit more just in case. But i'm pretty sure on Ritoky and on Breshke
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