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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:38 GMT
#6101
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.
Minimal effort.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:40 GMT
#6102
On March 25 2015 06:37 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:32 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:29 ExO_ wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Rsoultin claimed to have jailed Onegu, which is the whole point behind Onegu mafiareading her based on "why didn't you save HF"


I think its much more likely mafia Onegu was jailed and couldn't shoot, than Onegu was targetted by mafia.


It depends on vigis, I feel. If both of them are real, I think they would've shot into the vigis, in which case it is likely that Onegu is mafia.

If one of them is fake, it is more likely they want to keep both of the vigis alive and shoot into the "masons".


why would mafia shoot into a vig if having town lynch them is the way better option for them? At that point in time we were all set on the idea that one of us has to be mafia and we were heading for a reapeat of d1, a lynch between Vivax and me.

That's literally best case scenario for mafia.


Because the other vigi has to explain why he's alive on d3 or whatever. And they just keep RBing him.


you just said "they'd shoot into vig if one is fake and one is town" and now you're explaining it by using what we think to be more likely, that both are town.

Let's say you are right and it is 1 mafia 1 town.
If they shoot into vig they will shoot the town one (duh)
That would be an insta lynch on d2 for the other vig
and you say that's what they'd do because they could just keep on roleblocking the still alive vig (mafia according to your explanation because the townvig is already dead)
So they're framing the mafia-Vig as mafia by roleblocking him and making people ask why he's still alive?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:43 GMT
#6103
On March 25 2015 06:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:37 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:32 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:29 ExO_ wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Rsoultin claimed to have jailed Onegu, which is the whole point behind Onegu mafiareading her based on "why didn't you save HF"


I think its much more likely mafia Onegu was jailed and couldn't shoot, than Onegu was targetted by mafia.


It depends on vigis, I feel. If both of them are real, I think they would've shot into the vigis, in which case it is likely that Onegu is mafia.

If one of them is fake, it is more likely they want to keep both of the vigis alive and shoot into the "masons".


why would mafia shoot into a vig if having town lynch them is the way better option for them? At that point in time we were all set on the idea that one of us has to be mafia and we were heading for a reapeat of d1, a lynch between Vivax and me.

That's literally best case scenario for mafia.


Because the other vigi has to explain why he's alive on d3 or whatever. And they just keep RBing him.


you just said "they'd shoot into vig if one is fake and one is town" and now you're explaining it by using what we think to be more likely, that both are town.

Let's say you are right and it is 1 mafia 1 town.
If they shoot into vig they will shoot the town one (duh)
That would be an insta lynch on d2 for the other vig
and you say that's what they'd do because they could just keep on roleblocking the still alive vig (mafia according to your explanation because the townvig is already dead)
So they're framing the mafia-Vig as mafia by roleblocking him and making people ask why he's still alive?


What? I'm saying that if they're both town mafia likely would shoot one (probably Vivax) and then push to lynch toad (you) on d3. 1 mafia in either and they leave them both alive.
Minimal effort.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:44 GMT
#6104
On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.


why would you should either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched...

think about it this way:
Day 1: BM lynch
Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on Vivax
Day 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toad

sounds a lot better than what you're saying
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:45 GMT
#6105
On March 25 2015 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.


why would you should either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched...

think about it this way:
Day 1: BM lynch
Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on Vivax
Day 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toad

sounds a lot better than what you're saying


Yeah but this play is way too obvious. Mafia never wants to be obvious.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:45 GMT
#6106
Also, thinking about it, the KP was never on Vivax because he got RBed.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:46 GMT
#6107
So 2 KP shown during the night means one of two things:
1. Mafia KP got reduced.
2. You (toad) are not the vigi.
Minimal effort.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:47 GMT
#6108
On March 25 2015 06:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.


why would you should either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched...

think about it this way:
Day 1: BM lynch
Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on Vivax
Day 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toad

sounds a lot better than what you're saying


Yeah but this play is way too obvious. Mafia never wants to be obvious.

how is it obvious if they're leaving it to town to decide... you're not making any sense here.

So you're saying mafia went for the bad play that makes less sense on purpose to not be obvious... got it... it's another conspiracy
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:47 GMT
#6109
On March 25 2015 06:45 Superbia wrote:
Also, thinking about it, the KP was never on Vivax because he got RBed.


how is that related to anything?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:49 GMT
#6110
as in, why would RB on vivax have any implication about wether or not someone gets shot?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:50 GMT
#6111
On March 25 2015 06:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:45 Superbia wrote:
Also, thinking about it, the KP was never on Vivax because he got RBed.


how is that related to anything?


I was expecting KP to go on Vivax if Onegu was mafia for some reason. Too much speculation.
Minimal effort.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 24 2015 21:50 GMT
#6112
Well it implicates slam a little but that's wifom
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 24 2015 21:51 GMT
#6113
On March 25 2015 06:50 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:47 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:45 Superbia wrote:
Also, thinking about it, the KP was never on Vivax because he got RBed.


how is that related to anything?


I was expecting KP to go on Vivax if Onegu was mafia for some reason. Too much speculation.
If Vivax was to be roleblocked, I would have expected KP to go to ExO_ or raynpelikoneet (if he was town).
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:52 GMT
#6114
On March 25 2015 06:51 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:50 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:47 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 25 2015 06:45 Superbia wrote:
Also, thinking about it, the KP was never on Vivax because he got RBed.


how is that related to anything?


I was expecting KP to go on Vivax if Onegu was mafia for some reason. Too much speculation.
If Vivax was to be roleblocked, I would have expected KP to go to ExO_ or raynpelikoneet (if he was town).


Why Exo? Rayn actually makes a somewhat likely target.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 24 2015 21:52 GMT
#6115
If town.
Minimal effort.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 24 2015 21:52 GMT
#6116
Cause exo softed
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2015 21:52 GMT
#6117
i am super confused by what superbia is talking about. can someone try to make sense of this for me, or tell me if i am wrong.

he says the play he would make as mafia if 2 vigis were real and claimed, the play would be shoot 1 vigi @ night to setup the ML on the other; thus since it didn't happen that way 1 of the vigis is mafia? is that correct?

in a game with this many claims out in the open, why do you think the mafia would place vigi as such a high priority? especially when 1 has claimed to use their shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:55 GMT
#6118
On March 25 2015 06:52 ritoky wrote:
i am super confused by what superbia is talking about. can someone try to make sense of this for me, or tell me if i am wrong.

he says the play he would make as mafia if 2 vigis were real and claimed, the play would be shoot 1 vigi @ night to setup the ML on the other; thus since it didn't happen that way 1 of the vigis is mafia? is that correct?

in a game with this many claims out in the open, why do you think the mafia would place vigi as such a high priority? especially when 1 has claimed to use their shot.


it makes no sense, as already pointed out:
On March 25 2015 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.


why would you should either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched...

think about it this way:
Day 1: BM lynch
Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on Vivax
Day 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toad

sounds a lot better than what you're saying

would be the play for mafia if both vigs are town and from all I'm seeing that's exactly what they were looking at.

We got Palmar, who for the entirety of D1 read me as scum suddenly switched over during EoD to ensure a lynch on BM instead of a lynch on any of the two vigs...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 24 2015 21:57 GMT
#6119
On March 25 2015 06:18 Superbia wrote:
I'm not going to post for the next hour or so, making big posterino.

Is this still happening?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:57 GMT
#6120
*should = shoot lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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