EPTI would rather you analyzed LightningStrike's list post, and/or people's responses to it. That is more concrete, more useful, and has no downside.
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Trfel
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I would rather you analyzed LightningStrike's list post, and/or people's responses to it. That is more concrete, more useful, and has no downside. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:16 Eden1892 wrote: .____________________________________________________. did I just ruin some big play or is that about me not reading? :/ | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
your slot: - claimed blue under no pressure from the thread - hardclaimed tracker to its top scumread at the time - got unreasonably pissed at people who suspected it, ever - didn't try especially hard, relative to the other players in the game, to solve the game and apparently now we learn the claim was definitely fake too. and you claimed vt in a really scummy way. and even though you're cool tr'ing basically everyone else in the town circle, you're somehow deciding it's a good idea to throw garbage at the guy who's done by far the most this game to actually organize that circle like how the fuck am i supposed to think you're town from this? help me help you | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:18 Toadesstern wrote: did I just ruin some big play or is that about me not reading? :/ about not reading, lol | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:20 rsoultin wrote: hey ritoky remember carol? lol what should those of us who weren't in it and don't feel like reading another 6k posts know about carol | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Raynpelikoneet was scumread by mostly everyone, and with good reasons. He left more questions than answers and was probably the most abrasive person in the thread. I apologize for being biased against you, but after 285 pages, raynpelikoneet was quite scummy (especially with the tracker claim proven false). About raynpelikoneet's claim. He claimed tracker on Day 1 in a scenario where he was potentially the leading lynch candidate. Then he typed /unconfirm (spelled incorrectly), which was widely assumed to be a rescind of the tracker claim. Then claimed to track someone who was roleblocked. I think basically everyone agreed that if he changed his claim, he would be automatically lynched (though this wasn't said, of course, but I know that I certainly felt that way). And now you come in and claim vanilla town. I'm sorry, but especially given your scumplay last game, you're going to have to do something incredible for me to not want to lynch you (due to raynpelikoneet looking so bad). I don't need to lynch you tomorrow, but raynpelikoneet left you in a really bad spot. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:24 Eden1892 wrote: what should those of us who weren't in it and don't feel like reading another 6k posts know about carol lol he knows what i'm talking about ^^ presents and claiming early | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:26 rsoultin wrote: Oh, that's what you meant XDlol he knows what i'm talking about ^^ presents and claiming early Glad it's one of the parts of the game I'm familiar with. I feel sad for actually having a big effect on that game and not actually knowing the majority of what happened in it. Eden, it's not relevant, just a bit of banter. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
ok then | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Yes he has more posts and pages in his filter but I actually got a longer filter, despite having less posts! On the left: 25x page down click in Toads filter On the right: 25x page down click in Vivax' filter ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b1ny06e.png) :3 | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:19 Eden1892 wrote: ritoky, here's what i want you to understand about your slot right now, and why i'm frustrated with it and clueless as to how i'm supposed to read you based only on your actions. your slot: - claimed blue under no pressure from the thread - hardclaimed tracker to its top scumread at the time - got unreasonably pissed at people who suspected it, ever - didn't try especially hard, relative to the other players in the game, to solve the game and apparently now we learn the claim was definitely fake too. and you claimed vt in a really scummy way. and even though you're cool tr'ing basically everyone else in the town circle, you're somehow deciding it's a good idea to throw garbage at the guy who's done by far the most this game to actually organize that circle like how the fuck am i supposed to think you're town from this? help me help you - rayn claims as VT to push someone he has a 95+% scum read on sometimes. I think it is stupid and as mafia I got him ML'd for it once, but he does it because he is into big plays like that for whatever reason. was he the one who did it in XXX with the fake cc on his teammate day 1? I guess he is capable as both alignments if that was him. - rayn is an asshole - he was tryharding like mad as mafia in the other game, I would guess that has something to do with his effort level here? those are the best answers to those points I can give you at this point. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:33 ritoky wrote: - rayn claims as VT to push someone he has a 95+% scum read on sometimes. I think it is stupid and as mafia I got him ML'd for it once, but he does it because he is into big plays like that for whatever reason. was he the one who did it in XXX with the fake cc on his teammate day 1? I guess he is capable as both alignments if that was him. - rayn is an asshole - he was tryharding like mad as mafia in the other game, I would guess that has something to do with his effort level here? those are the best answers to those points I can give you at this point. Rayn is not asshole He just has a different strategy | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:17 Trfel wrote: Ritoky, discussing sicklucker's recent activities has little purpose, and there is good reason not to. I would rather you analyzed LightningStrike's list post, and/or people's responses to it. That is more concrete, more useful, and has no downside. I could, but I would lack context to analyze those. he made those reads at a point in the game that I have literal 0 awareness of or know anything about. do the reads suck? yes they are incredibly vague and weak, but LS does that. nothing he posts really ever makes sense to me. I am trying to interact with things that have happened since I entered the game to get my reads. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:36 Alakaslam wrote: Rayn is not asshole He just has a different strategy dunno, I have only had an unpleasant experience on TL mafia with 2 players, and rayn is one of them. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On March 22 2015 00:12 LightningStrike wrote: Their reasons for switching is scummy that what I mean -_- Palmar never really mentioned BM in his filter at all and so did Rayn as far I remember reading their filters. This feels really iffy if they are both mafia because LS wasn't really pushing much else if i recall. I don't remember is LS is prone to bussing either but i do know if palmar is mafia I think he would very likely tell his mafia partners to townread each other and I think LS would listen to him. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote: LS seems to ask palmar a lot of questions throughout the day yet never actually comes to a conclusion on him. That is until N1 happens and he seems to be building up to scum read him because of the BM switch This feels really iffy if they are both mafia because LS wasn't really pushing much else if i recall. I don't remember is LS is prone to bussing either but i do know if palmar is mafia I think he would very likely tell his mafia partners to townread each other and I think LS would listen to him. man, if Palmar is mafia, the QT probably looks like the streets of Carthage right now This is a hella good set of observations. I'd definitely believe that Palmar would tell his team to TR each other; iirc he's big on that in general (he made a big point of it in Titanic scum QT), and he just got finished watching a game where scum bused the fuck out of each other til the end and came up short for it. And I'd also believe LS would do what Palmar says. LS wouldn't be married to any reads by that point and strikes me as a team player. I'm just worried about what that means for my list. Unless you're mafia spewing tmi right now, I got a big problem to resolve later. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 24 2015 14:33 ritoky wrote: - rayn claims as VT to push someone he has a 95+% scum read on sometimes. I think it is stupid and as mafia I got him ML'd for it once, but he does it because he is into big plays like that for whatever reason. was he the one who did it in XXX with the fake cc on his teammate day 1? I guess he is capable as both alignments if that was him. - rayn is an asshole - he was tryharding like mad as mafia in the other game, I would guess that has something to do with his effort level here? those are the best answers to those points I can give you at this point. - He is inclined to do that, and he's capable of it as both alignments (your recollection is correct), but it's not that he fakeclaimed to push someone. That's not what happened. He claimed for no purpose when Toad cc'd Vivax as vig, hardclaimed tracker when his scumread rsoultin demanded it, and then didn't push anybody really hard from that point onward. - lol. I'm not sure he's an asshole but if you're saying it's not alignment-indicative... maybe - He really wasn't though. Or at least not after I flipped. He kinda coasted the last day and imo that's probably what hurt him most. So he coasted at the end of that game and he's not doing anything in here... And I mean, yeah. I hear ya. I don't expect you to account for all the scummy things ray did in the 285 pages before you popped in. I'm giving you a cycle to show me I was wrong about your slot. That should be enough time even with me being a hardass about questions I don't think are going anywhere. You cool with that? | ||
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