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A brief analysis of LightningStrike's post (quoted above).
In the Holyflare read, LightningStrike says that he can't find a post where raynpelikoneet is being useless. This seems suspicious to me, based on both the statement itself and raynpelikoneet's filter (though I haven't looked at it closely).
Perhaps Artanis[Xp] looks a bit worse because of LightningStrike's read. LightningStrike feels really reluctant to read Artanis[Xp] here, and makes sure to specify when he will be confident in this read. Seems a bit off.
The read on Superbia is really bad. It's weak, and it's pure meta (LightningStrike only provided one pure meta read with an actual conclusion, and that was Superbia).
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oh also Trfel
I also note that Toadesstern stated that if Vivax flipped town vigilante, Toadesstern should automatically be the next lynch. This simply isn't true, but is a good incentive for people to vote for Vivax. This suggests that perhaps Toadesstern was more interested in lynching Vivax than solving the game.
I'm kind of known to be of the opinion that a quick lynch on myself, as town when a majority of peoplep think I'm mafia and it's just too much chaos otherwise is a good thing. I've done that like... twice, I get a lot of crap for it but I stand by that.
Last time I did it I ended up setting myself up as lynch on purpose, did get lynched and made a huge last second post with reads and explaining my plan and how to move on after the ML ending in something along the lines of "I would have been dragged into lylo by mafia if we don't get over this now. Sometimes the best way to get over things is to shove someones dead, green head into their face and be done with it. This time it's mine. Move on after this and you still just win"
I'm a dramaqueen like that 
On March 24 2015 13:45 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 13:42 Toadesstern wrote:
how much conspiracy from Vivax do I have to walk through this time? None, actually?
yay o/
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more people should answer this
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?
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On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:more people should answer this Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why? No, they really shouldn't. Reason is darn obvious.
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On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:more people should answer this Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?
you seem to think this is important so i would like to see what you think of it once youve gotten from it what you needed.
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Toadesstern, thanks a bunch for going through that for me (both this and your post on the previous page). That really does make a ton of sense.
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On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:more people should answer this Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?
why don't you share your findings with the class first
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this is kinda frustrating. am just trying to get people to interact with a very simple question so I can get reads.
@trfel then what do you think of breshke's answer to it if it is so obvious?
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why aren't you engaging breshke about this instead of trfel? breshke's the one who's actually a question mark relatively speaking
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On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:more people should answer this Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?
Null. No reason to do this as either alignment.
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from LS reads that you just quoted
raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o
Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious.
Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh.
Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him.
sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him.
those all read horrible to me and out of them Palmar the least horrible (wow... what am I saying )
I mean just look at all the back and forth going, the massive amounts of insecureness and unwillingness to put something clear about those other 4 in particular.
They all basicly just read "there's this thing I consider scummy.... but meh not sure" with a lot of "idk" and "but" mixed in
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not trying to be antagonistic here but quite honestly this doesn't look like it's going anywhere
I'm really sympathetic to the fact that you replaced some 285 pages in but I'm also gonna be a bit of a stick in the mud about your questions if I don't like them cuz I think you're mafia
so please orient your efforts toward something more productive TIA
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On March 24 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:
why aren't you engaging breshke about this instead of trfel? breshke's the one who's actually a question mark relatively speaking
are you just trying to throw scum on me?
On March 24 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 09:40 Breshke wrote:On March 24 2015 09:37 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2015 09:36 Breshke wrote:On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why? Most lukely bullshutting. Dont think its allighnment indicitive for him though so you don't believe he has it? what motivation do you think he has for claiming it while not having it? do you have reason to believe he doesn't? Because he recently talked about how he likes the wifom play. I also believe town SL with the orb would go for gliry and not try pull a roleblock. Motivation for town SL without orb is to try pull a Rb or nk which is very unlikely. Motivation for mafia Sl is to make it look like he is tryong to do a play which he says he likes as town. I can see it either way pretty sure this dude is town pile for now. this is an incredibly reasonable read.
already did.
breshke is more town than you are imo, by quite a bit.
my town is me + artanis + breshke + all the role people. is that auto?
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**this = ritoky's question(s) about orb
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On March 24 2015 14:11 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:
why aren't you engaging breshke about this instead of trfel? breshke's the one who's actually a question mark relatively speaking are you just trying to throw scum on me? Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2015 09:40 Breshke wrote:On March 24 2015 09:37 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2015 09:36 Breshke wrote:On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why? Most lukely bullshutting. Dont think its allighnment indicitive for him though so you don't believe he has it? what motivation do you think he has for claiming it while not having it? do you have reason to believe he doesn't? Because he recently talked about how he likes the wifom play. I also believe town SL with the orb would go for gliry and not try pull a roleblock. Motivation for town SL without orb is to try pull a Rb or nk which is very unlikely. Motivation for mafia Sl is to make it look like he is tryong to do a play which he says he likes as town. I can see it either way pretty sure this dude is town pile for now. this is an incredibly reasonable read. already did. breshke is more town than you are imo, by quite a bit. my town is me + artanis + breshke + all the role people. is that auto?
that's not engaging breshke that's giving him a free townread for saying something pretty obvious
sicklucker claiming the orb means precisely sweet fuck all rn
so congrats on patting breshke on the back for concluding that the event you're asking about is inconclusive?
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On March 24 2015 14:10 Eden1892 wrote:
not trying to be antagonistic here but quite honestly this doesn't look like it's going anywhere
I'm really sympathetic to the fact that you replaced some 285 pages in but I'm also gonna be a bit of a stick in the mud about your questions if I don't like them cuz I think you're mafia
so please orient your efforts toward something more productive TIA
like no offense, but you're being a giant dick in general. you're shitting on every question I am trying to raise. it really demotivates me from trying when I sub in late being a decent guy, get VT, try to start getting reads, and 1 guy is just sitting there shitting on you at every turn.
if you're town you need to get yourself to a place where you understand I am VT. if not, keep doing what you're doing cuz it is making me want to try less and less.
pretty much your reaction to the exact same situation in the last game vs this game makes it obvious to me you are a role or mafia. I don't know which, but there's not many roles left to be claimed?
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god I fucking hate replacements this late in a game. it's not their fault that they can't anticipate games blowing up like this, but if you aren't going to follow the game no matter how big it gets why the fuck are you on the replacement list to begin with?
this isn't directed solely at you either, ritoky. i basically had to 100% read fecalfeast in xxx mini off of my last feelings on damdred for most of the time ff was in the game
this is the 3rd time i've seen it happen in high-volume games and it's just a clusterfuck
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wait, you're VT? I thought rayn was tracker
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On March 24 2015 14:14 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 14:10 Eden1892 wrote:
not trying to be antagonistic here but quite honestly this doesn't look like it's going anywhere
I'm really sympathetic to the fact that you replaced some 285 pages in but I'm also gonna be a bit of a stick in the mud about your questions if I don't like them cuz I think you're mafia
so please orient your efforts toward something more productive TIA like no offense, but you're being a giant dick in general. you're shitting on every question I am trying to raise. it really demotivates me from trying when I sub in late being a decent guy, get VT, try to start getting reads, and 1 guy is just sitting there shitting on you at every turn. if you're town you need to get yourself to a place where you understand I am VT. if not, keep doing what you're doing cuz it is making me want to try less and less. pretty much your reaction to the exact same situation in the last game vs this game makes it obvious to me you are a role or mafia. I don't know which, but there's not many roles left to be claimed?
not trying to be, i'm pissed off that ray apparently fakeclaimed tracker and then peaced out without explaining himself and now i'm left with no way to be fair to you
you cannot possibly reasonably ask me to just understand you're VT when your predecessor was scum as fuck for 285 fucking pages
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On March 24 2015 14:15 Toadesstern wrote:
wait, you're VT? I thought rayn was tracker
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