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On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages.
You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummyi mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum  secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!?
I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical.
bye.
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On March 24 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages.
You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummyi mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye.
dude
i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now?
you're freaking out too much
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On March 24 2015 02:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ I think clearing people for votes is too easy. Now that you pointed it out, Onegu did vote LS at a crucial time, but Palmar switching to BM does not feel that significant as both BM and Vivax are likely town. Also, Onegu keeping his vote on LS all day rather than choosing a side kind of counts against him, but N2 should create some clarity here. Rayn, Toad is not scum. I am 99% sure. Already said this? But here's the deal, Artanis. Two vigilantes on the loose super scary! Can only roleblock one! Better for scum if one goes down with the lynch. Only one real vigilante...who cares lol so for your analysis to hold water on Palmar...you have to consider one of the vigilantes to be possibly fake...and that can only be Toad BALLING see vivax i can do logic  Eliminate the impossible and what remains, however unlikely, is true. I find it impossible that Toad is mafia this game. I don't know if Palmar is, but him switching from town to town even if one is a town vig is certainly possible. -amused- you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, for one scum to take the fall for another at a later time interesting, i thought they said you were smart impossible is too strong a word
This reason being brought up is enough of a reason to make it infinitely more likely than a Toad scum scenario.
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On March 24 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages.
You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummyi mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye. dude i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now? you're freaking out too much
Except that things like that NECESSARILY MAKE SOMEONE MAFIA!
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On March 24 2015 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:20 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ I think clearing people for votes is too easy. Now that you pointed it out, Onegu did vote LS at a crucial time, but Palmar switching to BM does not feel that significant as both BM and Vivax are likely town. Also, Onegu keeping his vote on LS all day rather than choosing a side kind of counts against him, but N2 should create some clarity here. Rayn, Toad is not scum. I am 99% sure. Already said this? But here's the deal, Artanis. Two vigilantes on the loose super scary! Can only roleblock one! Better for scum if one goes down with the lynch. Only one real vigilante...who cares lol so for your analysis to hold water on Palmar...you have to consider one of the vigilantes to be possibly fake...and that can only be Toad BALLING see vivax i can do logic Eliminate the impossible and what remains, however unlikely, is true. I find it impossible that Toad is mafia this game. I don't know if Palmar is, but him switching from town to town even if one is a town vig is certainly possible. -amused- you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, for one scum to take the fall for another at a later time interesting, i thought they said you were smart impossible is too strong a word This reason being brought up is enough of a reason to make it infinitely more likely than a Toad scum scenario.
so riddle me this, artanis
if there was no CC on Vivax, what do you think would have happened? hypotheticals
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Like why the fuck will a townie come to thear and make a bullshit read on someone?
WHY ON AERTH WOULD ANYONE EVER DO THAT?
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On March 24 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages.
You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummyi mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye. dude i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now? you're freaking out too much Except that things like that NECESSARILY MAKE SOMEONE MAFIA!
it's a strong argument, rayn, i'm not saying it's not. i'm saying it doesn't confirm he's mafia 100%. are you going to argue that one with me?
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On March 24 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads? I didn't claim "to one of my biggest scumreads". wtf?
Lol you claimed to rsoultin on the spot after calling her scum repeatedly and then called her scum right after claiming. Plz.
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I guess, I don't think that there is much to be gained from analyzing votes that occurred well before the deadline, when half the game hadn't voted at all yet. For example, raynpelikoneet added the third vote on LightningStrike, bringing LightningStrike into a 3-3-3 tie for first with sicklucker and Vivax. However, I don't think this clears raynpelikoneet, because there were about nine hours left in the day at this point, and the votes were very widely spread (such that the vote count was sure to change drastically).
In the same way, I don't see Onegu voting for LightningStrike as saying much about Onegu, since while he did push LightningStrike into the voting lead, he did so with seven hours remaining, and the votes still very spread out and fluctuating. I think voting a partner into the lead is a fine play for scum to do here, as the risk is rather small.
And I don't townread people who are staying out of the main wagons with several hours to go before the deadline. There is plenty of time for stuff to happen, plenty of time to save LightningStrike if things go bad. In fact, I think it makes sense for scum to push the counterwagon to LightningStrike with something more like three hours left to the deadline, and not earlier. Especially in a large game like this.
And I don't see what the switch to Bill Murray provides, except those who switched to Bill Murray instead of the vigilante Vivax are more likely to be town (sorry Vivax!). But even that isn't confirmed, as scum was readily willing to roleblock Vivax, solving that problem.
Palmar wasn't in a position to hammer Vivax, so I don't townread him for hammering Bill Murray instead. Same with raynpelikoneet. So I don't townread them for doing so.
LightningStrike's vote even further cements Vivax as town. And that's the only thing I really see in the voting analysis at this time, unfortunately. What am I missing?
However, this obviously ignores what players were actually doing in the thread, and is based on votes alone.
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On March 24 2015 02:25 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 02:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads? I didn't claim "to one of my biggest scumreads". wtf? Lol you claimed to rsoultin on the spot after calling her scum repeatedly and then called her scum right after claiming. Plz.
I claimed because i was pissed off for people making fucked up reads that make no sense on me like in Titanic.
Sue me.
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On March 24 2015 02:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 02:20 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ I think clearing people for votes is too easy. Now that you pointed it out, Onegu did vote LS at a crucial time, but Palmar switching to BM does not feel that significant as both BM and Vivax are likely town. Also, Onegu keeping his vote on LS all day rather than choosing a side kind of counts against him, but N2 should create some clarity here. Rayn, Toad is not scum. I am 99% sure. Already said this? But here's the deal, Artanis. Two vigilantes on the loose super scary! Can only roleblock one! Better for scum if one goes down with the lynch. Only one real vigilante...who cares lol so for your analysis to hold water on Palmar...you have to consider one of the vigilantes to be possibly fake...and that can only be Toad BALLING see vivax i can do logic Eliminate the impossible and what remains, however unlikely, is true. I find it impossible that Toad is mafia this game. I don't know if Palmar is, but him switching from town to town even if one is a town vig is certainly possible. -amused- you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, for one scum to take the fall for another at a later time interesting, i thought they said you were smart impossible is too strong a word This reason being brought up is enough of a reason to make it infinitely more likely than a Toad scum scenario. so riddle me this, artanis if there was no CC on Vivax, what do you think would have happened? hypotheticals
I dunno, no one knows. BM probably would've ended up getting lynched anyway.
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Anyway, capoeira time, hf raging etc.
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Artanis i am still not in the townpile?
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On March 24 2015 02:26 Trfel wrote:
I guess, I don't think that there is much to be gained from analyzing votes that occurred well before the deadline, when half the game hadn't voted at all yet. For example, raynpelikoneet added the third vote on LightningStrike, bringing LightningStrike into a 3-3-3 tie for first with sicklucker and Vivax. However, I don't think this clears raynpelikoneet, because there were about nine hours left in the day at this point, and the votes were very widely spread (such that the vote count was sure to change drastically).
In the same way, I don't see Onegu voting for LightningStrike as saying much about Onegu, since while he did push LightningStrike into the voting lead, he did so with seven hours remaining, and the votes still very spread out and fluctuating. I think voting a partner into the lead is a fine play for scum to do here, as the risk is rather small.
And I don't townread people who are staying out of the main wagons with several hours to go before the deadline. There is plenty of time for stuff to happen, plenty of time to save LightningStrike if things go bad. In fact, I think it makes sense for scum to push the counterwagon to LightningStrike with something more like three hours left to the deadline, and not earlier. Especially in a large game like this.
And I don't see what the switch to Bill Murray provides, except those who switched to Bill Murray instead of the vigilante Vivax are more likely to be town (sorry Vivax!). But even that isn't confirmed, as scum was readily willing to roleblock Vivax, solving that problem.
Palmar wasn't in a position to hammer Vivax, so I don't townread him for hammering Bill Murray instead. Same with raynpelikoneet. So I don't townread them for doing so.
LightningStrike's vote even further cements Vivax as town. And that's the only thing I really see in the voting analysis at this time, unfortunately. What am I missing?
However, this obviously ignores what players were actually doing in the thread, and is based on votes alone.
Here's the mistake I made initally when my mind was clouded by emotions.
Even though I'm town doesn't mean mafia didn't save me, they will just focus on the reads they gave previously as acting against them would make them look scummy.
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And with mistake I mean that Trfel is making the right decision in his reasoning and I didn't.
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Of course that does not make me or Palmar mafia if you are town.
Why would anyone argue that?
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nah yeah that makes sense
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can i have onegu though? i was super excited lol >< bursting my excitement!bubbles
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On March 24 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course that does not make me or Palmar mafia if you are town.
Why would anyone argue that?
it doesn't make you two town is what he's saying >>
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On March 24 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course that does not make me or Palmar mafia if you are town.
Why would anyone argue that? it doesn't make you two town is what he's saying >>
has someone been arguing that?
i know it isn't a fact nor have i ever argued so.
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On March 24 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course that does not make me or Palmar mafia if you are town.
Why would anyone argue that?
Rayn why are you TRing Palmar?I don't get it. I don't get anything of what he's doing and that ass play is the same play which made me lynch him in imperial. I think that if he actually rolled town in this game as well he's a shade of what he is capable of as he's probably the guy with most mafia experience in here and just doesn't give a fuck, but that's a reason in itself to remove him from the game on a rational basis as nobody can be able to read him correctly. The same reason I wanted Alakaslam dead.
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