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On March 24 2015 01:28 rsoultin wrote:
^^ i've got things and gems and joyfulness ^^
like seriously, things no one else has talked about
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viva may even stop calling me an idiot!
-sits on rayn's head-
onegu says he has his soul read on you
if i treat you as if i believe you're 100% town instead of just possibly town, will you talk to me?
That's nice! I don't want to call you an idiot btw (don't think I ever did but it might have sounded like that and today I'm in a joyful mood so let that passssss)
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On March 20 2015 01:06 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 01:00 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 00:59 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:Also rsoultin! + Show Spoiler +I added you on LoL on my Level 6 smurf on NA fyi + Show Spoiler +what was the name?  me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^ nvm found it ^^ hey, LS, i think this time you should sheep me, boyo  also, totes not important but since you asked, eden, yes we've discussed my age before xP 26 + Show Spoiler + I willing to sheep HF but if Rayn flips town it might go full Carol O_o
this is an interesting post right here i think if you're town rayn...sets up suspicion on Holyflare
mostly it looks like he wasn't really willing to commit to a read on you one way or another so far
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Here i give you the guidelines:
LS sheeps Holyflare's read on me. But he is a guy who's about 100% of reads are purely based on meta. He asks Holyflare to proveide my scumgames. Holyflare never does that. Do you think it's LS'y to NOT go check for them by himself? He just keeps calling me scum when there is a wagon on me -- also keep whining about Holyflare not providing those games. Do you think that's what he would do as townie? I said all this on D1.
Then he asks me, his scumread (i would assume people read their scumreads posts to better prove their read is correct -- right?) "why did you vote for BM?". Like it's fucking obvious why i did vote for BM. I have had a townread on Vivax all game long and i voted for BM because i did not have a townread on him and Vivax asked me to. Somehow LS "doesn't know this". Like he isn't even trying to be logical, he is just shouting shit all over the place.
Good thing is that this confirms me town.
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Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank.
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Raynpelikoneet, why did you track Vivax?
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On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank.
I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town.
Seriously, Toad is so scummy.
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On March 24 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why did you track Vivax?
I said i would track one of Vivax/Toad and i rng'd it.
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On March 24 2015 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:I said i would track one of Vivax/Toad and i rng'd it. From my perspective, tracking one of the claimed vigilantes seems pointless.
If they really are vigilante, then they either got roleblocked (went nowhere) or visited their target.
If they are mafia, then they either lied (went nowhere) or visited their target.
You only gain information if one of the vigilantes visited someone other than the claimed to, which would be extremely stupid for them to do, unless they were framer/roleblocker. So I'm assuming that you were checking to see if Vivax was actually framer or roleblocker? Or am I missing something?
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On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy.
Maybe but when I was receptive for that notion you were missing even though I summoned you,so I'm kinda pissed.
Today I'm slightly on the sauce (thanks for teaching me something new VE) and tone wise you and Palmar sound a lot like you don't have fun solving this game :/
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On March 24 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here i give you the guidelines: LS sheeps Holyflare's read on me. But he is a guy who's about 100% of reads are purely based on meta. He asks Holyflare to proveide my scumgames. Holyflare never does that. Do you think it's LS'y to NOT go check for them by himself? He just keeps calling me scum when there is a wagon on me -- also keep whining about Holyflare not providing those games. Do you think that's what he would do as townie? I said all this on D1. Then he asks me, his scumread (i would assume people read their scumreads posts to better prove their read is correct -- right?) "why did you vote for BM?". Like it's fucking obvious why i did vote for BM. I have had a townread on Vivax all game long and i voted for BM because i did not have a townread on him and Vivax asked me to. Somehow LS "doesn't know this". Like he isn't even trying to be logical, he is just shouting shit all over the place. Good thing is that this confirms me town.
you know i kinda disagree lol that this confirms you town ^
however i do think that the waffle back and forth about calling you mafia or not based on your tracker claim (town) + your vote switch to BM (scum)
is ridiculous
like the main two people he was scumreading were you and Palmar for that...(but again it doesn't look like he knew what to do with your tracker claim lolol) and Palmar has absolutely no incentive to switch to the BM lynch (whereas I could actually argue reasons for you) if he's scum, because parking on Toad just makes him look stubborn
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On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy.
yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game
which is nice
i love clearing questionmarks ^^
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On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^
But boting is be bing bich bakes bum book bike bown bery beasily.
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Why track them when it wouldn't give any new info unless they're both mafia and bad?
Why did you hard claim to your big scumread at the time?
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On March 24 2015 01:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ But boting is be bing bich bakes bum book bike bown bery beasily.
lol what's that vivax?
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On March 24 2015 01:52 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why did you track Vivax? I said i would track one of Vivax/Toad and i rng'd it. From my perspective, tracking one of the claimed vigilantes seems pointless. If they really are vigilante, then they either got roleblocked (went nowhere) or visited their target. If they are mafia, then they either lied (went nowhere) or visited their target. You only gain information if one of the vigilantes visited someone other than the claimed to, which would be extremely stupid for them to do, unless they were framer/roleblocker. So I'm assuming that you were checking to see if Vivax was actually framer or roleblocker? Or am I missing something?
You are half right. It doesn't matter which one i track if i tell i track one of them.
If mafia has an way out they probably will not roleblock me.
That means they will probably roleblock the vigi who is not mafia (yes, and i assume Toad is mafia -- so that would be Vivax here). Most likely the scum that is not a vigi (assuming there is one between them) is not going to do anything or is going to claim they shot mafia night kill.
So it really does not matter which one of them i track, but it will give a 100% confirmation what one of the CLAIMED BLUES did. Had i tracked someone else they can just claim vanilla (or rather, i would not have claimed my check at all until later) and if i miss mafia/town PR i get no info at all.
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On March 24 2015 01:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here i give you the guidelines: LS sheeps Holyflare's read on me. But he is a guy who's about 100% of reads are purely based on meta. He asks Holyflare to proveide my scumgames. Holyflare never does that. Do you think it's LS'y to NOT go check for them by himself? He just keeps calling me scum when there is a wagon on me -- also keep whining about Holyflare not providing those games. Do you think that's what he would do as townie? I said all this on D1. Then he asks me, his scumread (i would assume people read their scumreads posts to better prove their read is correct -- right?) "why did you vote for BM?". Like it's fucking obvious why i did vote for BM. I have had a townread on Vivax all game long and i voted for BM because i did not have a townread on him and Vivax asked me to. Somehow LS "doesn't know this". Like he isn't even trying to be logical, he is just shouting shit all over the place. Good thing is that this confirms me town. you know i kinda disagree lol that this confirms you town ^ however i do think that the waffle back and forth about calling you mafia or not based on your tracker claim (town) + your vote switch to BM (scum) is ridiculous like the main two people he was scumreading were you and Palmar for that...(but again it doesn't look like he knew what to do with your tracker claim lolol) and Palmar has absolutely no incentive to switch to the BM lynch (whereas I could actually argue reasons for you) if he's scum, because parking on Toad just makes him look stubborn
Like do you think LS makes that sort of arguments on me if we are both mafia?
I have to confront him in that case (which i did), i have to push him if he didn't give me reasonable answers (which he didn't). That is just stupid mafia play....
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palmar's is a little more sketch, actually, and really falls by the wayside if one of toad/vivax is scum
howeeeeever Onegu's is solid. before your claim, vivax, he voted LightningStrike over you and put the votecount at 5:4
that is just not a very scum-motivated thing to do barring a few other options of course, but since LightningStrike absolutely should have changed votes to BM if you're scum when he had the chance, I'm pretty confident I don't need much more to townread Onegu
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On March 24 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:52 Trfel wrote:On March 24 2015 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why did you track Vivax? I said i would track one of Vivax/Toad and i rng'd it. From my perspective, tracking one of the claimed vigilantes seems pointless. If they really are vigilante, then they either got roleblocked (went nowhere) or visited their target. If they are mafia, then they either lied (went nowhere) or visited their target. You only gain information if one of the vigilantes visited someone other than the claimed to, which would be extremely stupid for them to do, unless they were framer/roleblocker. So I'm assuming that you were checking to see if Vivax was actually framer or roleblocker? Or am I missing something? You are half right. It doesn't matter which one i track if i tell i track one of them. If mafia has an way out they probably will not roleblock me. That means they will probably roleblock the vigi who is not mafia (yes, and i assume Toad is mafia -- so that would be Vivax here). Most likely the scum that is not a vigi (assuming there is one between them) is not going to do anything or is going to claim they shot mafia night kill. So it really does not matter which one of them i track, but it will give a 100% confirmation what one of the CLAIMED BLUES did. Had i tracked someone else they can just claim vanilla (or rather, i would not have claimed my check at all until later) and if i miss mafia/town PR i get no info at all. So what you're saying is, because you weren't roleblocked, that means that mafia wasn't worried about the results of your tracking.
And your conclusion is that Vivax is town and Toadesstern is mafia.
I'm sorry, I just don't understand. You don't need to explain it again, hopefully enough other people understand it so it's a non-issue.
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On March 24 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:53 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here i give you the guidelines: LS sheeps Holyflare's read on me. But he is a guy who's about 100% of reads are purely based on meta. He asks Holyflare to proveide my scumgames. Holyflare never does that. Do you think it's LS'y to NOT go check for them by himself? He just keeps calling me scum when there is a wagon on me -- also keep whining about Holyflare not providing those games. Do you think that's what he would do as townie? I said all this on D1. Then he asks me, his scumread (i would assume people read their scumreads posts to better prove their read is correct -- right?) "why did you vote for BM?". Like it's fucking obvious why i did vote for BM. I have had a townread on Vivax all game long and i voted for BM because i did not have a townread on him and Vivax asked me to. Somehow LS "doesn't know this". Like he isn't even trying to be logical, he is just shouting shit all over the place. Good thing is that this confirms me town. you know i kinda disagree lol that this confirms you town ^ however i do think that the waffle back and forth about calling you mafia or not based on your tracker claim (town) + your vote switch to BM (scum) is ridiculous like the main two people he was scumreading were you and Palmar for that...(but again it doesn't look like he knew what to do with your tracker claim lolol) and Palmar has absolutely no incentive to switch to the BM lynch (whereas I could actually argue reasons for you) if he's scum, because parking on Toad just makes him look stubborn Like do you think LS makes that sort of arguments on me if we are both mafia? I have to confront him in that case (which i did), i have to push him if he didn't give me reasonable answers (which he didn't). That is just stupid mafia play....
I agree it's stupid mafia play, yes, rayn. It's a point in your favor lol ^^
I'm also rethinking my townread on Toad...problem is that's actually not a point in your favor, despite the fact you've been scumreading him 
but regardless...i'm not going to be completely forthcoming with all my thoughts right now for strategic reasons ^^
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On March 24 2015 02:03 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:52 Trfel wrote:On March 24 2015 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why did you track Vivax? I said i would track one of Vivax/Toad and i rng'd it. From my perspective, tracking one of the claimed vigilantes seems pointless. If they really are vigilante, then they either got roleblocked (went nowhere) or visited their target. If they are mafia, then they either lied (went nowhere) or visited their target. You only gain information if one of the vigilantes visited someone other than the claimed to, which would be extremely stupid for them to do, unless they were framer/roleblocker. So I'm assuming that you were checking to see if Vivax was actually framer or roleblocker? Or am I missing something? You are half right. It doesn't matter which one i track if i tell i track one of them. If mafia has an way out they probably will not roleblock me. That means they will probably roleblock the vigi who is not mafia (yes, and i assume Toad is mafia -- so that would be Vivax here). Most likely the scum that is not a vigi (assuming there is one between them) is not going to do anything or is going to claim they shot mafia night kill. So it really does not matter which one of them i track, but it will give a 100% confirmation what one of the CLAIMED BLUES did. Had i tracked someone else they can just claim vanilla (or rather, i would not have claimed my check at all until later) and if i miss mafia/town PR i get no info at all. So what you're saying is, because you weren't roleblocked, that means that mafia wasn't worried about the results of your tracking. And your conclusion is that Vivax is town and Toadesstern is mafia. I'm sorry, I just don't understand. You don't need to explain it again, hopefully enough other people understand it so it's a non-issue.
What did toad do?
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