EPTOn March 22 2015 13:02 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait. I wasn't n1'd?????
THE DISRESPECT
Wait. I wasn't n1'd?????
THE DISRESPECT
I don't even understand. Did you not read the post and assume? Sounds more like a half-assed fake dumbtell
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
I don't even understand. Did you not read the post and assume? Sounds more like a half-assed fake dumbtell | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 22 2015 13:03 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't even understand. Did you not read the post and assume? Sounds more like a half-assed fake dumbtell No of course I read it, that was a brick joke to let people know I'm coming and I'm hype as fuck | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On March 22 2015 12:48 Trfel wrote: Is there anyone else behind on their reading this game? If so, can I request silence until the end of the day such that we can catch up? XD + Show Spoiler + Yes, of course I'm joking, but it would be really nice for me.... Not that you guys need me anyway, I haven't provided any useful reads except for the orb. Haven't read over half the game... | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
High-five! | ||
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Onegu
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Trfel
7015 Posts
So slow...... I'm on page 26 of my reading. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
The Mason Claims So first of all, Onegu. Just based off of the fact that Holyflare ran with the masons thing instead of trying to get Onegu lynched, I'm gonna assume HF thought Onegu was town. I'm not very good at meta reading Onegu and he hasn't done much of anything this game to make me think anything of him. I'm cool with sheeping Holyflare here tho. If we have the luxury of an alignment check on Onegu then we can figure it out that way, but tbh if he's legit the mafia will have to NK him as long as we don't collectively go full retard and make him lynchable. That said we shouldn't 100% believe Onegu's partner claim right now. Onegu already fakeclaimed a partner and he could very well be doing it again for kicks or for strategy or for whatever. Instead we should wait until ray comes back to the thread and confirms or denies that Onegu is his partner. I am reasonably confident he will and this issue will be resolved, but we maximize the value Onegu's able to get out of his play by simply letting this claim resolve itself, as it's soon to do. The Jailer Claim When the fuck are y'all just gonna take my word for it? I'm the fucking Prophet of Rsoultin by now. Seriously. Yes she's the jailer. Yes saving Onegu over Holyflare was silly, and yes doing it because medic dodge is even sillier. But hey, player who's relatively new to the blues side of the game rolls blue and plays suboptimally. Shocking. Film at 11. rsoultin is the real medic. The Orb Trfel, I appreciate your enthusiasm and good job catching mafia. But for future reference, in a situation like this, don't disclose that you got and used the orb right away. I understand the impulse and it's definitely from the right place, you think you have something good to share (and in this case you totally did!) and you wanna get it out right away. But you can maximize the value you get from your information, and extend your play to potentially catch mafia, with some reservation. LS is a relatively new player to mafiaside and he's known to have issues with busing his teammates. Imagine what you could have gotten out of pushing him on his reads list all day and then claiming your orb check with ~6 hrs in the day. There's probably a gold mine in that list, but now we gotta mine it ourselves instead of having him mine it for us. You obviously still did a great job, don't get me wrong, this is just free advice for the next time you end up with an investigative role. Investigative roles are powerful because they represent information the mafia don't have; they reduce the information gap between town and mafia. You don't want to put all your cards on the table until you're reasonably sure you got everything you needed from it. I would have had more to say on this, but I got the impression LS confessed (I didn't read the actual page(s) where it happened, but I read the leadup and I see people quoting what sounds like a confession). And honestly, there's no excuse for tracking a claimed mason at all, and marginal excuse for checking one. So this was pretty much in the bag. Good job Trfel. The Vigs Toad shot VE, Vivax claimed to shoot Slam but was roleblocked. I'm gonna second Artanis's filter/etc. argument on Vivax being town, because it's pretty convincing. Plus Vivax being roleblocked as it's known he was shooting Slam makes perfect sense given my suspicion of Slam. And knowing Vivax is town, mafia Toad is literally never going to counterclaim vig d1 and try to get him lynched. At this point I have no problem believing we have two vigilantes. continued... | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Why do you think that mafia will shoot one of the masons? | ||
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Trfel
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Player List: 1 sicklucker 2 Vivax 3 rsoultin 4 Toadesstern 5 LightningStrike 6 Alakaslam 7 ExO_ 9 Onegu 10 Breshke 11 Superbia 12 Fecalfeast 13 Palmar 14 Trfel 15 raynpelikoneet 18 Artanis[Xp] 19 Damdred 20 Eden1892 The first thing I have is that Alakaslam is mafia. This is a pretty easy case I made during the night. Here's the highlights:
The second thing I have is that Artanis is town. Artanis's activity level and involvement, especially since around the last 8 or so hours of d1, has really skyrocketed, and I believe it's well outside his normal mafia range. He's a really talented player and certainly capable of playing a good scum game; hell the guy's nominated for Best Mafia Performance for just that in a similarly big game. But he was a lot more background in that game than this one, easily. He's been driving home a lot of good points and coming to a lot of good conclusions. This guy is town. The third thing I have is that Damdred is town. He's been busting his ass this game with strong analysis in n1, he's been involved and despite not being the loudest voice in the room, generally making sure his reads aren't forgotten and his opinion is heard. This is big because mafia!Damdred is a lot more okay with being a background player. The other thing is his frustration over VE dying. This is a pretty noticeable tendency in Damdred's town game, he gets frustrated when people don't listen to him about his reads and do the opposite of what they would imply. He could fake this frustration as mafia, but you look at how he came back soon afterward and got right back to the grind and that's how you know it's genuine. The boy just won't quit. he's town. continued... | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Player List: 1 sicklucker 2 Vivax 3 rsoultin 4 Toadesstern 5 LightningStrike 6 Alakaslam 7 ExO_ 9 Onegu 10 Breshke 11 Superbia 12 Fecalfeast 13 Palmar 14 Trfel 15 raynpelikoneet 18 Artanis[Xp] 19 Damdred 20 Eden1892 I probably should have included FF with the other reads, since it's similarly easy to make, but three is a pretty number so I decided to save him for this post. This post is why Fecalfeast is town, given that LS confessed. I regret skipping over this post d1, I skimmed it and went "ehh" and then didn't really think too hard about it. But look at the nuance in his analysis. He really digs into how LS is bringing things up and compares his meta reads to LS's town tendencies (like the observation, oft repeated since, that LS asked other people to post prior games and make his meta cases for him in essence instead of doing it himself). Then when he could have been the deciding factor in lynching a town vig, he stays on mafia. Even knowing now that LS had irl issues to deal with, LS is probably one of the poorest bus targets you could have. He's hard to read if you aren't very careful and meticulous in your observations, and it's very easy to look like you have too much information. You really have to be right for the right reasons when it comes to LS. And besides, how easy would it be for mafia just to be like "Oops, guess LS was mafia, I figured it was just LS's normal game" if LS ever gets caught? It's just such a weird bus target. Fecalfeast is town. Second, Breshke is town. I've played with Breshke as both alignments before, and although this level of activity is more within his scum range than his town range, the quality of that activity is what distinguishes him in my mind as town. Breshke is one of those players who has a lot of trouble posting when he's mafia, and it shows. Generally when he's making insightful observations, he's town. When he's mafia he doesn't go for the TMI, "look at how useful I'm being" angle, he's more of a lurker who gets by on minimal effort. Posts like this are why Breshke is town. This is a good observation and is key to a later read of mine. You'll also notice that it's a followup to a previous question he had, another good townie signal. it's easy for mafia to lose track of something they asked in a huge thread like this - remembering to follow up later, especially when the point is actually good, is a pretty townie sequence. Third, sicklucker is town. Y'all are just gonna have to trust me here. I'm gonna explain it, and it's not gonna be anything he can't necessarily do as mafia, but you're gonna believe me here because I'm slowly becoming pretty good at meta-reading sicklucker (not as good as I do with rsoul and probably never as good, but increasingly reliably good). sicklucker is displaying the inquisitiveness that I associate with his town game. His activity level has finally become acceptable there as well. If I'm wrong about anybody in my town pile it's probably SL, but I still feel pretty confident he's town. He's bouncing around in the thread chasing whatever weird angles he has to pursue. He needs to keep doing this obviously, and if you see him slack off and one of my scumreads turn up then feel free to disregard this read. But for now I think he's town because he's showing that he cares about figuring shit out and he's within his town range of activity. continued... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
Anyone calls me bad this game can remind themselves that my record is shit anyway so it doesn't need more saying. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
LOL | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Player List: 1 sicklucker 2 Vivax 3 rsoultin 4 Toadesstern 5 LightningStrike 6 Alakaslam 7 ExO_ 9 Onegu 10 Breshke 11 Superbia 12 Fecalfeast 13 Palmar 14 Trfel 15 raynpelikoneet 18 Artanis[Xp] 19 Damdred 20 Eden1892 Lol is that 3 people left to identify with 3 scum remaining? Don't worry, I'm not just using POE. ExO_ is mafia because...
Superbia is mafia because...
Palmar is mafia because... Haha I lied, this one is just POE. If I'm wrong about any of my suspects it's Palmar. I guess you could point out that LS's curiosity about Palmar dropped off a cliff after he posted his big reads list, but that's not really good. It's cool though, town has at least 4 more cycles to figure him out so idgaf if I'm wrong here really. CONCLUSION: Scumteam is LightningStrike, Alakaslam, ExO_, Superbia, Palmar. Lynch in that order. If I'm wrong about anyone it's sicklucker. Don't let him drop off the face of the Earth. Pretty much everyone else is convincingly town. All of our current claimants are legit. No other claimants are likely to be. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
1 sicklucker 2 Vivax 3 rsoultin 4 Toadesstern 5 LightningStrike 6 Alakaslam 7 ExO_ 8 Bill Murray (RIP) (My b) 9 Onegu 10 Breshke 11 Superbia 12 Fecalfeast 13 Palmar 14 Trfel 15 raynpelikoneet 16 Holyflare (RIP) 17 VisceraEyes (RIP) (My b) 18 Artanis[Xp] 19 Damdred 20 Eden1892 | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 22 2015 14:45 Toadesstern wrote: I FIGURED THE SHIT OUT LOL Too late, I already solved the game. Go back to bed | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 22 2015 14:49 Toadesstern wrote: We're going to change that order a little once this day is over. At least one in there is town and I have not yet figured out which one Ok nvm. Don't go back to bed. Whatcha got | ||
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