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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 10:51 GMT
#3481
I want to know why Damdred unscumread Trfel and SL for no apparent reason.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 10:52 GMT
#3482
Eden and SL*
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 21 2015 10:52 GMT
#3483
Yeah, it was PYP Mafia where I also had ~13 pages of filter as town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 21 2015 10:52 GMT
#3484
On D1.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 10:53 GMT
#3485
On March 21 2015 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 19:50 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 19:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I am actually playing much postier than in Imperial though. I only had 6 pages on D1 there, whereas I had 13 here. I don't think I'm capable of playing more than 100% postier than my postiest game as scum.


I also checked a town game where you got shot N3 and you had less filter there than in this entire game.

If you feel like comparing things you can't just look at your scum games.

Fact: Posting as town is easier than scum. If you deny this you are lying.
Fact: I've posted far more D1 than I have in any scumgame. I believe I've posted about this much in D1 before in a towngame but I'm not certain. PYP?
Fact: This means it's much more likely I'm town than scum.


How about the fact you were almost fucking off not doing anything for the entire duration of the night if I didn't prod you about this?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:00 GMT
#3486
All these people who suddenly townread me after being the greatest pushers of my lynch smell of scum afraid of a pissed off vig.

And you should be afraid cause I am pissed off.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 21 2015 11:01 GMT
#3487
On March 21 2015 19:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 19:50 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 19:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I am actually playing much postier than in Imperial though. I only had 6 pages on D1 there, whereas I had 13 here. I don't think I'm capable of playing more than 100% postier than my postiest game as scum.


I also checked a town game where you got shot N3 and you had less filter there than in this entire game.

If you feel like comparing things you can't just look at your scum games.

Fact: Posting as town is easier than scum. If you deny this you are lying.
Fact: I've posted far more D1 than I have in any scumgame. I believe I've posted about this much in D1 before in a towngame but I'm not certain. PYP?
Fact: This means it's much more likely I'm town than scum.


How about the fact you were almost fucking off not doing anything for the entire duration of the night if I didn't prod you about this?

What? I reported in myself that I think you're town, and I'm going to be back a few hours before the night as I said. I've got a capoeira workshop that starts in 1hr that I'm leaving for now. I've done plenty during the entire day.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 21 2015 11:05 GMT
#3488
Can all the holier than thou (ExO I'm looking at you) tone it down please.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:08 GMT
#3489
Palmar, any suggestions?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 21 2015 11:11 GMT
#3490
about what?
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:11 GMT
#3491
Who is scum, who to shoot etc.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 21 2015 11:11 GMT
#3492
Shoot toad.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:16 GMT
#3493
Give me some reasons or I might just shoot Trfel for being so mafia

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 21 2015 05:10 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:07 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:03 Vivax wrote:
Ok now that enough mafia or idiots are piled up on me I hardclaim Drax.
Well......

##vote raynpelikoneet for now. I wasn't really liking a Vivax lynch anyway (based on the first 4 pages of Vivax's filter and Damdred's casae). Raynpelikoneet's filter feels weaker.

get back on Vivax. Nothing about this claim should make you unvote
I'm not saying that it makes Vivax 100% town. It doesn't. But it definitely makes me hesitant to lynch him today.

The chances are fairly good that we do have a vigilante. Vivax is leaving himself wide open to counterclaims here.

In addition, while (until he started being wagoned) Vivax wasn't very active, his filter seemed aggressive enough to me, and Damdred's case felt exaggerated. The primary point being that it appeared like Vivax really did push Superbia, it's just that he was unable to get many others to agree with him. And yes, eventually he dropped it, as one would expect someone to do when no one else agrees.


On March 21 2015 05:23 Trfel wrote:
My head hurts.........

I don't see mafia!Toadesstern claiming vigilante here to secure a lynch on Vivax. That seems like a bad play, with the potential exception being if raynpelikoneet is mafia (but raynpelikoneet already claimed tracker, so I don't think Toadesstern's counterclaim vigilante would be necessary). Thus, I believe Toadesstern's claim.

The question then becomes if Vivax should be lynched. I do think it is possible to have two vigilantes in this game, somewhat unlikely, but very possible. Half the Sky does like vigilantes.


The bolded in above post doesn't even make any sense.

On March 21 2015 05:26 Trfel wrote:
I wasn't scumreading Vivax before this claimfest started.

I agree with Superbia that there is a very real chance that both Vivax and Toadesstern are town. Though Vivax could still be a good lynch today, maybe.


On March 21 2015 05:29 Trfel wrote:
Look, we are absolutely not lynching Toadesstern today. You don't need to read the thread to see this.

I need to leave basically right now, I hope I'll get back for EOD.

I'm looking at Vivax and raynpelikoneet for the lynch. For now, I think Vivax.

Reason being how stubbornly he's attacking Toadesstern instead of taking a step back and realizing that his counterclaim means he is probably town. Though I could see a desperate, tunneling town doing this as well.

##vote Vivax

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:26 GMT
#3494
Ok, for dummies:


Trfel is mafia cause he brings up the possibility of two town vigs being in the game, doesn't scumread me for my play, but scumreads me cause he concludes that Toad's claim makes him town, and also cause I don't entertain the notion that two vigs can be in the game.

Get it?

"Two town vigs are possible"
"I think Toad is the vig, hence Vivax scum"

That was Trfel.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:32 GMT
#3495
To make it REALLY sit in your heads, I'll rephrase it again:

what he said was

1. Vivax isn't scum and Damdred's case was exaggerated. Believe claim.
Toad CCs
2. Two vigs are very possible in the game.
3. Toad wouldn't CC as scum so the claim is real
4. Superbia is right that two vigs are possible but Vivax could be a good lynch
5. I will vote Vivax cause he still attacks Toad, but townies could do it too.
6. Vivax mafia cause he said there can be multiple vigis

As you see he jumped on the wagon after TRing me, and he did that right after arguing that Toad's claim is legit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:33 GMT
#3496
So, Toad can do whatever the hell he wants, I'm either shooting Trfel or withholding my shot so I get to keep my bullet when they have to RB me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2015 11:36 GMT
#3497
On March 21 2015 20:32 Vivax wrote:
To make it REALLY sit in your heads, I'll rephrase it again:

what he said was

1. Vivax isn't scum and Damdred's case was exaggerated. Believe claim.
Toad CCs
2. Two vigs are very possible in the game.
3. Toad wouldn't CC as scum so the claim is real
4. Superbia is right that two vigs are possible but Vivax could be a good lynch
5. I will vote Vivax cause he still attacks Toad, but townies could do it too.
6. Vivax mafia cause he said there can be multiple vigis

As you see he jumped on the wagon after TRing me, and he did that right after arguing that Toad's claim is legit.


i like this
but i also liked trfel so i'm conflicted
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:45 GMT
#3498
He also acknowledged LS was a lynch option but didn't give a read on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 21 2015 11:48 GMT
#3499
If by some miracle Toad uses his brain and not his pride and I'm still alive tomorrow, I'm pushing Trfel til one of us dies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 21 2015 11:56 GMT
#3500
is trfel the guy you coached who was good?
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