EPTXXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+)
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On March 08 2015 00:18 Koshi wrote: /in I abandon my self imposed ban and punishment and award myself instead with a great game. Oh, this is how this works? Don't tell geript/Robik. | ||
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On March 08 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote: Need 1 more and it will probably start on monday. Monday would be nice. Just please don't start tomorrow. | ||
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On March 08 2015 05:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: /in anyway Hate me later when I miss almost every deadline. Who cares - your opinion is insignificant anyways... | ||
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On March 09 2015 13:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: /out Coward... | ||
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On March 09 2015 16:28 Holyflare wrote: As damdred pm'd me to replace ages ago he will be replacing obi, game starts at 22:00 GMT (+00:00) which is (or check top of op) Thank god... | ||
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Rayn.... what have you done? :/ | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. So, who is? | ||
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You never learn. | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: pretty much yeah. There's an outside chance JAT is mafia, but I'm willing to clear him for the day. Wow, the respect. I feel it. | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well then everyone who's posted so far are not town are they? Ha! | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:44 rsoultin wrote: -snerks- does it help if I say I've never injured anyone who wasn't trying to kill me? lol >< other than the girl whose foot I broke in soccer...yeah nevermind i'm just dangerous; stay away xP o_O Are we talking about military stuff or why would people try to kill you? Robik does not count. | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:45 ritoky wrote: it's already been established, palmar is rockin dem #sickstrats JAT, you're late to the party. please use the proper hashtag when talking about palmar's play #sickstrats #sickreads | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote: lolol yes, i'm a closet sub/borderline masochistic prophetess xP Doubt it. | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:53 marvellosity wrote: Very. I played a flawless chess match resumption tonight, which doesn't happen very often. So I'm feeling very accomplished and pleased with myself So it has nothing to do with your alignment? Disappointing. | ||
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On March 10 2015 08:01 marvellosity wrote: did anything interesting happen? i'm not going to read the thread for a little while So much effort reading this huge thread. | ||
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On March 10 2015 08:08 marvellosity wrote: yet you managed to fail to answer the question, gj  I'm watching University Challenge There might have been really interesting things. Someone might have claimed scum already. But I am not telling you. I am evil like that. | ||
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On March 10 2015 08:22 Eden1892 wrote: please. this is clearly the story of a very strong woman who is interested in experiencing the more traditional feminine side of life but hasn't been able to because no one is as tough as she is haven't you read, like, any adult novels I was kinda answering Onegu there. | ||
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On March 10 2015 08:24 marvellosity wrote: well guys. that wasn't very enlightening. Don't tell me you read the thread!? | ||
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On March 10 2015 08:34 Eden1892 wrote: when she isn't uptight from having to hide her extra knowledge of the game state Yep, that is how you should read her. Not sure if it applies here so far though. On March 10 2015 08:36 marvellosity wrote: you only get halfmarks for getting the person right, you didn't get the reason the reason was her early and actually kinda stupid townread of LS. I feel like if she was mafia she'd at least wait for a few more LS posts before giving her traditional LS townread I don't think I agree. Isn't she always townreading him almost immediately? | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:09 rsoultin wrote: -sits on jat- so much fun no post restrictions wut? | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote: I can waste posts sitting on you xP too bad HF is host. if you're scum you'd claim his changing targets last minute (which he does as town) is scummy and then get into a shitfight with him that goes practically line for line the same across your scum games How is I gonna be able to read you without HF? lol I don't always go against HF as scum. Only when he is annoying or a good mislynch (hehe). In heavyweight I buddied him hard for example. As town I am usually pretty easy to townread. | ||
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Going to bed now anyways. | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:51 marvellosity wrote: how many games have you played with him since you were calling for breshke to shoot me over him then? roflroflrofl This game hasn't become more interesting since yesterday. At least I like rsoultin, Eden and Palmar so far. And another person I am not telling. huehuehue Would policy lynch ritoky for keeping an mediocre joke alive for ages. Would also policy lynch slam (unfortunately not that easy). | ||
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On March 10 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Pretty sure marv, rsoultin and onegu are town. JAT why Palmar and eden? Eden because of his general attitude. Palmar because of this post: On March 10 2015 08:28 Palmar wrote: (it's me) | ||
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On March 10 2015 19:32 Koshi wrote: JAT is mafia. He snarks at Palmar for reading him town due to laughing at Palmar his joke. Then claims later he is confirmed town because he is in a good mood. He was also around for too long after he said he would be gone and just showed activity. Koshi confirmed unable to read tone. | ||
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He is reading between the lines. | ||
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On March 11 2015 05:59 marvellosity wrote: you should probably read some of his mafia games then Since when is it scum indicative for rayn to be stubborn about stupid stuff? Like - can you summarize again why you think he is scum? I see an active rayn that really seems to believe what he is saying. | ||
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On March 10 2015 20:20 Koshi wrote: 3b) if it wasn't a snarky post I don't understand why JAT doesn't use that post to townread Palmar and uses some dumb other post instead. It was a jokey post. I did not townread Palmar off that post so I did not use it to townread Palmar. It is actually that simple. On March 10 2015 20:27 marvellosity wrote: You're going to have to suspend that sort of read for jat, prplhz. He's rather good as mafia at saying things town would say. On March 10 2015 20:29 Koshi wrote: Good. A couple townie looking sentences is exactly what I expect from scum JAT. I cannot and will not defend myself against stuff like this. It is just stupid. | ||
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I could but it would be much easier if you would just give me an updated read. It is in your interest to do this if you are town. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:36 marvellosity wrote: I'm so glad you're here to tell me what's in my interests. See? Now that you know - why is rayn mafia? | ||
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On March 11 2015 01:17 Koshi wrote: Additional reason why JAT is mafia and I forgot if I already said it: JAT liked 3 people for no reason. town JAT doesn't really like people even if there are good reasons. On March 11 2015 01:41 prplhz wrote: I'm inclined to say that Koshi's meta read on justanothertownie (that he doesn't throw around town reads as town) is correct. But I have only read his Imperial Mafia filter so far. Anyway, don't forget about it! This is absolutely incorrect. Not to mention that me saying "I like those people" is in no way a hard townread. | ||
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Now you aren't even funny. You are making me sad. | ||
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On March 11 2015 01:20 marvellosity wrote: in rough order of confidence marvellosity prplhz LightningStrike Palmar rsoultin Koshi Eden ritoky Onegu jat Damdred rayn I realize there has been some change to this but I will not waste my time searching for little comments in marvs filter so I will work with this. Not the worst list. I would merge the lower 2 tiers, upgrade Eden, downgrade Koshi. Between the tiers I would place LS lower and rayn higher. Rsoultin probably higher too. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote: I have no idea, why after a zillion games together, when you ask me to do something and I point you somewhere and/or refuse to do what you're asking, you get sad or surprised when I continue to do the same thing. have you learnt nothing? No. Now go do stuff for me. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:46 Koshi wrote: marv top townread but JAT is treating him like shit. makes sense. shhhh I am pushing mafia agenda here. Don't interfere. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:49 Koshi wrote: Oh wait are you saying you wouldn't do it as mafia so I should townread you. no thx. This guy is constantly failing to understand the tone of posts/overinterpreting things. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:50 marvellosity wrote: if it helps, jat, you can probably skip any post with 10-15 words or less in my filter and not read it, usually if i am talking about a read I at least form actual sentences if you're town, it's in your best interests to go back and look if you're genuinely interested But why would I do this for you when you refuse to do anything for me? | ||
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On March 11 2015 02:22 prplhz wrote: this is from 8 hours into a game where justanothertownie is town link he doesn't want to give a town read on someone he thinks is "not that hard to read". in this game 10 hours in 4 town reads. On March 11 2015 02:52 prplhz wrote: he said he liked a list post of marv's but he specifically says that the towniest people on the list post were not townies but "people who shouldn't be lynched right now". that's the length he went with his town reads, named a handfull "people who shouldn't be lynched right now" 40 hours into the game. there's really different from what he's doing this game. If you really believe this then check some more towngames and you will quickly notice that this is not true. Also this is not how you meta. If you want to construe this as scummy you have to show that I am "throwing townreads around" as scum. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:51 Koshi wrote: Look at how happy JAT is about rolling town and solving a game. Yes. And look at how miserable you are about it too! | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:51 Palmar wrote: This entire thing is just off. Rayn keeps talking to people as if they're confirmed town. What? | ||
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On March 11 2015 02:42 LightningStrike wrote: But the quotes weren't from this game though. Anyways this was my Meta Case on JAT being Mafia in Horn of Africa: Some of it can be applied here I think but not much tbh but would still lynch him this game. What exactly is it that you think can be applied here? | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:56 marvellosity wrote: i'm tempted to be a pussy and do what jat asked for after all. hot damn. I am such a boss. | ||
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On March 11 2015 06:59 Koshi wrote: I am 100% mafia on JAT. He just did the thing in which he pretends to think the same as a prominent figure. I never did anything like that in any game I ever played. What are you smoking? | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:01 Koshi wrote: At least 3 times in Horn. Good that you don't remember. I might have unintentionally crossposted with people - I do that all the time as either alignment - but I never ever did what you are accusing me of. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:05 ritoky wrote: is koochi using the glory hole argument on JAT? What is the glory hole argument? | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:06 Koshi wrote: I only believe it if you flip town. Or when. Same shit. I will not talk about this further because it does not achieve anything but I am telling you that I never did anything like that. I also have no reason to lie about this regardless of my alignment. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote: >> lol palmar you're so much more fun when you play xP He is amusing. It would be more fun if he would actually play the game though. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:12 Palmar wrote: confirmed mad at my antics. JAT mafia. Your antics are fine. The lack of not antics is what's annoying. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote: he's right jat >> intentional or not you have copied top town as scum -shrugs- No, because that is exactly the point. I DID crosspost (I always do as town or as scum) but I did NEVER do it intentionally. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote: jat: rayn's original couple of posts, I don't necessarily believe what he was doing (starting the game), they're just off. maybe rayn's explanation is right, maybe not, i can't prove it attacking LS in the fashion he did, it reads very bizarrely. further he's done the same with LS in previous games, so either he just learnt nothing and is repeating history, or he's doing it because it's quite easy to attack LS for almost anything the post he made on prplhz, i stand by what i said originally, prplhz looks quite town so the entire post was off and pointless. threatening prplhz with the day 2 lynch if he "afks his vote and does nothing"? well, you don't say, it's too obvious to say, it also doesn't look like what prplhz is doing the small thing about deleting a post on LS townread, repeating what already happened in the thread, said he missed it said "i have no idea why ppl are scumreading slam" - already went over in the thread, it means he "missed" half a page of posts where people were all like "lol slam isn't in the game lol" - this and the last = 2 instances of rayn not being attentive, he's usually attentive the damdred thing seems part of a pattern - he's finding reasons to call people mafia, not actually thinking about both sides of the story, damdred did a thing -> mafia. His aggression was really well balanced in the game that just finished and he was town, and it doesn't seem well balanced at all here. of course i can be wrong about all of this and he's town and playing not really as i expect, but at the moment i don't think so Agreed on the first part. The reason I thought it is weird is because I was sure it was a joke when it happened and later on he felt the need to explain it in a weird way. Attacking LS is bizarre but why is it scummy? It is pretty obvious for any sane person that attacking LS gets you scumread. You are literally saying rayn is too dumb to realize this as mafia. If there actually is history about this like you claim then this would be even more stupid. LS is easy to attack because his arguments often do not make logical sense but the truth is going against him is not easy. The prplhz thing is stupid but not alignment indicative. The slam thing is kinda similar. I agree that rayn usually is attentive. I don't think he is not attentive as mafia though?! The damdred thing I actually really tried to understand but never did. I read the words rayn says the meaning completely escapes me. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote: lol you misunderstand me, jat. his post was right. i'm not sold on your alignment yet. it's kind of difficult to determine "intent" His post is not right because he says I am doing it intentionally which is wrong. Simple as that. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:25 Koshi wrote: JAT why are you replying to post while you were writing that answer to marv? I am not. Why are you asking me dumb questions like this? | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:26 marvellosity wrote: like saying "the prplhz thing is stupid and not alignment indicative" doesn't make it so. I clearly think it's alignment indicative. You clearly do otherwise you wouldn't have posted it but I disagree and thus said I don't think it is. | ||
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Why on earth would I lie about this shit? | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:30 Koshi wrote: Ok. Can somebody explain to me why jat could just perfectly answer marv in a record temp without having to look up anything, but 30 minutes ago he was begging marv to explain the tread to him because he didn't understand anything? Here. I can. Because I read the thread recently and answered by memory which is clearly indicated by the beginning of my post. I did not recall every single thing marv said about rayn though because it was never really summed up. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:34 Eden1892 wrote: Cuz he actually read the thread the whole time lol. Man my vote was trendsetting Change that to: he was reading the thread at that time and you would be correct. Lying about when I am caught up or reading is another stupid thing I would never do as either alignment. | ||
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Maybe she did not "instantly" townread him. But she did definitely harddefend him later when EVERYONE thought he was scum. I don't remember playing or obsing a single game where she did not call LS town. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:55 Koshi wrote: Eden, you need to say you are scumreading JAT. Then we get something spectacular. Because currently he can't pin his spectacular statement on you yet. Koshi, if you are town just take a break from this game or alternatively just ignore me for some time. You are just making an ass out of yourself by tunneling me in this retarded fashion. | ||
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On March 11 2015 07:57 Koshi wrote: I kinda agree. I need like sleep. 19 hours awake. Most of the things I said were terrible. Exactly. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:14 Koshi wrote: JAT just read Damdred mafia hard earlier. Now he might be mafia. And JAT has 0 reasons. The biggest reason is right in the post you quoted there idiot. Where did I hard mafia read him btw.? | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote: Ok JAT, either you are mafia or marv is. What is your reply? My reply is that this statement makes no sense and is likely wrong. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote: Confirmed. JAT scumreads marv minorly. wat | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:20 marvellosity wrote: guys i just got to the bottom of the rayn/damdred thing it's taken me at least 30 minutes Enlighten us. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:22 marvellosity wrote: gonna try to patch it together and make sure i still understand, it's a bit like when i read about quantum mechanics and i have to keep going back to check i understand the concept i'm reading about I can tell you quite a bit about quantum mechanics but I totally failed to understand what this damdred stuff was about. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:23 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and I getting the Tone of Mafia JAT this game just like Horns. Onegu soulread rayn for us please Senpai! You are wrong though. Could you please explain what you were talking about earlier when you said your case on me from horn could be applied in this game? | ||
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do not lynch: marv rsoultin prplhz Koshi probably shouldn't lynch: Palmar LS Eden Rayn rest: Onegu Ritoky Damdred | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:28 ritoky wrote: yo i already translated it, you done? My bad. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:37 LightningStrike wrote: Your tone is very similar being angry all the time practically. This is not true. At least not when you said this: On March 11 2015 02:42 LightningStrike wrote: But the quotes weren't from this game though. Anyways this was my Meta Case on JAT being Mafia in Horn of Africa: Some of it can be applied here I think but not much tbh but would still lynch him this game. Because until Koshi started tunneling me like a moron I was evidently in a pretty good mood. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:37 marvellosity wrote: still working on this post lol I can't stay up all night... | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:50 marvellosity wrote: why is it disappointing? at the very least we now know rayn's accusation on damdred there is incorrect. It is dissapointing because it does not tell us that much about their alignment. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:52 Eden1892 wrote: Tbh since I called him scum 1st we should find ppl who sheeped me. They are probably mafia. Also JAT is mafia cuz he wasn't doing anything proactively. Even when he wasn't defending himself (which is obviously excused) all of his posts were covering older ground or responding to others' queries instead of raising his own. Town JAT would have had some leads he wanted to pursue after catchup. Imo No, he evidently wouldn't. | ||
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On March 11 2015 08:54 marvellosity wrote: well if someone thought damdred was mafia for that, then now they can't, because it's false. it also means rayn is pushing something false, and if he's going to be pushing damdred for something, he should at least be correct about it. it's essentially a fabrication. there's a whole bunch of posts where rayn rants at damdred even though damdred already corrected himself. he's not reading, he's just attacking blindly. This is all true but we are talking about rayn here. | ||
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Tomorrow. Finding mafia does not seem easy so far. | ||
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This is a claim I take it. | ||
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On March 11 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote: easiest game of my life. I already can't wait for the postgame if you are town. | ||
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On March 11 2015 09:09 rsoultin wrote: i love bussing me some jat Oh god, yes you do. You love bussing in general. On March 11 2015 12:41 Eden1892 wrote: it's so cute how you're pretending you don't want to sub and i am actually remarkably surprised by how much clarity i am bringing in my posts this game Yes, I agree. The problem is that this is only because you don't bring any content besides "vote jat". | ||
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On March 11 2015 20:39 marvellosity wrote: jat you kinda need to stop snarking and actually find a mafia to lynch you can snark at people all day and it won't get us anywhere I already decided I won't be defending myself like I did yesterday because I got almost nothing done besides that. But I will be snarking to my hearts content and there is nothing you can do about it. | ||
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What Koshi did yesterday was completely unreasonable and dripping with confirmation bias. | ||
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On March 11 2015 20:45 rsoultin wrote: jat cause lol I still don't know who he thinks is scum, just that he doesn't think he's scum xP horrid defense This is so lazy. Read my filter if you don't know my reads. I gave reads more than once. | ||
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On March 11 2015 20:51 marvellosity wrote: "oh marv, post me the stuff that i cba to find in your filter" "rsou, go look at my filter, you lazy bish" It's not the same - I did not claim that you did not give a read. Also I am allowed to do this because I am awesome. On March 11 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: whispers: more to the point, if I can't remember any of your reads when I can remember about 60-70% of this thread >> what does that say about your reads, jat? lol Absolutely nothing. It just means you did not read attentively. | ||
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On March 12 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote: no, it means you're forgettable, which you are. that's the truth. ouch | ||
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On March 11 2015 20:55 marvellosity wrote: it's kinda bad that jat is being pushed by multiple people but last night he was able to make nothing of it really alignment-wise (or much of anything else really). Now that is not entirely true. I came around to Koshi being pretty solidly town for example. He is being zealous (I think that's the right word) on his crusade against me. He is also misguided like a true crusader would be. On March 11 2015 21:58 Koshi wrote: raynbro. Why I think Damdred is town: These 2 quotes look like the come from a town watching, learning and believing what he is reading. A bit of a naive town, he calls 4 people town and I think he refers to Palmar, JAT, marv, Eden. He could be mafia just going with the flow though, good on him if he can do it so carelessly. Imagine if all the above 4 are town, would scum Damdred add another? If the above 4 are not town, did scum Damdred let the wrong information go? Maybe. Looks genuine. If it is genuine I think it comes from town and not scum. Based on the fact that scum might be annoyed for being shit on and not getting cred? He is referring to rs getting towncred for reading LS town I think. If we believe that everything Damdred thinks is genuine. He got 6 townreads with rsoultin being townish after calling ls town. This vote makes 100% sense from town!Damdred perspective. So the early game looks very townie to me. Now I have to wade through the rayn vs damdred part and I don't know if I will be able to get anything out of it. But I guess I will read it. Probably skim it. Anyway, raynbro, let me know what you think. I really don't think anything in this post makes damdred town. Damdred is certainly never "naive town" for starters. On March 11 2015 23:11 Koshi wrote: JAT Eden Palmar Onegu rayn Ritoky I shall ponder on these names a bit. rsoultin isn't making the cut anymore I guess. I don't know how I feel about that. Replace me with damdred and you basically have the list I gave yesterday. I guess that means I must be scum. | ||
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On March 11 2015 23:41 rsoultin wrote: so someone doublecheck this for me, but my meta for eden is how erratic he normally is as town. my bro also did voting analysis and says eden is the outlier cause he votes for like everyone like a hyperactive chipmunk. how good is that meta read? its why i keep hyperfocusing on his unwillingness to talk about other reads, i.e. play with me I think it may actually be pretty good. | ||
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On March 12 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote: I have no idea how to even defend myself against some of this. I feel like JAT is probably still mafia for not even trying to figure things out (and should absolutely be the lynch today over me even if you suspect both of us), there's a decent chance marv is mafia because he should know better and he's handling JAT all weird. Third one idk yet He is handling me the way he always did (at least when he was town) since heavyweight. On March 12 2015 00:23 Eden1892 wrote: And what do you mean by #3? Town indicative of who? What you do with JAT is simple. You roast with fire until he does something productive. End of story. False. If you do this you will only achieve that I will have to waste my time defending myself regardless of my alignment which makes me unproductive by default. I don't think you can read me well by making me defend myself at all. | ||
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On March 12 2015 02:38 marvellosity wrote: In general terms I largely agree with this; it's a great compliment to say that in interactive conversation he's generally persuasive and sounds pretty genuine as mafia. Like if I had to pin down a couple of things I think made jat mafia in Horn, it was his lackluster EOD d1 and his poor read (evolution) on Palmar. Not because he slipped up while people were defending him. The bolded above all else. It was the same in void mafia. It really sucked and I knew it when it happened. | ||
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On March 12 2015 02:40 marvellosity wrote: I also hadnt' even realised the first part of your post was true (about how i handle you), else I would have said so myself :p but I guess it actually is (unless you are not working and megaposting or something) The only time you ever really townread me as town since then was in that one game (FFL2?) you replaced into and were too lazy to do anything at all. And you only read me town based on filter size there too. | ||
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On March 12 2015 03:29 Eden1892 wrote: I already talked about my relative lack of interaction. I was able to scum read JAT for a good reason without interacting with him. If he doesn't do anything to change his behavior then why would I need to interact with him further? Because if you are town you can never be sure. If you are scum you only need one reason to justify your vote though. On March 12 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote: I'm ready to quit TL mafia rn So fucking mad. People aren't giving me any chance to improve my game without giving up my mislynch streak. Why the fuck even play? Might be a case for dickmove analysis. On March 12 2015 03:39 Eden1892 wrote: If I can't be townread without spamming the game to unplayable levels then fuck y'all I'm spamming the game to unplayable levels I am NOT getting mislynched, now or ever This is not true. If you are town you can play really well and be townread without being ridiculously spammy -> imperial. | ||
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On March 12 2015 03:57 Eden1892 wrote: And why is there still a huge wagon on ray when the cases on Damdred and JAT are both better. Wtf is this shit. The "case" on me? lol | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote: Sure I can't be 100% sure I guess? I don't get what that means. As town I might only need one reason to justify my vote. This happened with Artanis in Student VI, and all my pestering him to do stuff just made people mad about spam and did nothing to get him to do anything, so it just ended up being a waste. If my read is that someone is mafia for not trying to scumhunt, and they continue to not scumhunt, why do I need to do anything else? What do you mean by dickmove analysis? And not anymore I can't, apparently. I played Imperial before my last bout of spammy games so no one had the expectation of it. Now they do, which I guess is fair, but when I explicitly give reasons for why I'm not as spammy and I still remain highly productive (as I believe I am, and no one has actually tried to argue otherwise with any strength), I think it's fair to expect that people don't stick their faces 12 inches up their assholes and refuse to acknowledge this and keep scumreading me for shit reasons. Dickmove analysis = I don't know if you are enough of an asshole to say something like "I want to quit TL" as mafia. Makes me doubtful. You don't need to pester me to do stuff - I already explained that this isn't productive anyways but interacting/asking questions etc. is the least I would expect from town Eden. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote: Damdred is 100% mafia 1) Townread me early without any of his usual town paranoia (see Student VI for an example of this, the guy was skeptical of my alignment until I flipped even in obs chat) 2) Townread me for my big reads post that he said he "liked a lot" 3) As soon as Koshi says he doesn't like me anymore he decides I'm mafia and wow how did he miss all this? 4) He doesn't bother to interact with me to get my reasoning on anything, he just says now it's mafia instead of talking TO ME about why he doesn't like my reads 5) Bad-faith bullshit like "you're ignoring the thread to make people look bad" which just isn't true Lynch this guy lolololol | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:12 Eden1892 wrote: Bruh I know, but it's different ...not ALL that different but it is. If you're gonna scumread people for having reads you don't like then you should probably question them to understand how they got their reads, right? It IS different from "he has no reads so I scumread him" Don't be obtuse about this please, I really do think it's different and not totally hypocritical Are you seriously asking your mafia read to "not be obtuse about this"? ??? Your case on damdred is not the worst though. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote marv 100 % mafia.  I'll explain when in front of a computer. You seem to never stop trolling this game. It is getting really annoying. | ||
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Why? Still for those awful reason you compiled earlier? | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:26 Eden1892 wrote: God just beam me up now. How did this go from feeling so easy this time yesterday to being a nightmare today I think we should just "keep roasting you". | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:28 Eden1892 wrote: how bout hell no i'm so sick of this who are your scumreads now since you're actually posting? you said you "kinda liked my case" on damdred, what else ya got I am currently deciding between him and Onegu/ritoky. Palmar also probably has a decent shot at being mafia. | ||
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Ritoky is a nonfactor this game. He did next to nothing besides keeping his pickle thing alive. As town he generally IS doing stuff. As mafia he isn't -> Imperial. I don't have a particular reason to scumread Onegu but I feel half his filter is him talking about slam. He is HARD townreading rayn and doing nothing else really. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:37 Eden1892 wrote: ...i like both of these reads lol you also said that you don't see how palmar could read marv mafia rn. why not? what about marv's game has you saying he's town with that much certainty I am not 100 % on this but I feel marv is putting way more effort into this game than he would as mafia. If he does not return before the deadline or does not make his opinion listened to then I might rethink this but his general attitude/behaviour heavily suggests townmarv to me. Big part of that is how he is threating me. When he was scum he just called me 100 % town without the slightest bit of paranoia. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:43 rsoultin wrote: I like rayn post o.o lol let me get home to look at it closer....weve still got time ye? More than 2 hours. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:43 Eden1892 wrote: one thing is sure, i'd lynch jat to save ray sorry jat, i did like your reads, but i think ray is much more town and i don't like how long it took you to give them Why are you apologizing to a scumread???? It's not like there aren't other people in this game besides me and rayn too. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know, maybe someone like ritoky is town. You jsut said you could lycnh Onegu but do not have any reasons to lynch him. I don't even know why it took you THIS long to do ANYTHING in this game?!!? Maybe I was busy? Maybe I was being tunneled in the most moronic way possible? Don't you think that I would have done something as mafia? | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:50 Eden1892 wrote: i don't really agree with this interpretation It is absolutely true. You cannot read his post and tell me otherwise unless you are retarded. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: so are you and you aren't doing anything for reals either. that's why you are both mafia. so please push onegu. oh right, you didn't have any reasons for him to be mafia. No, I am not. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:51 LightningStrike wrote: Okay since the JAT lynch is getting some traction I don't mind switching since I was scumreading him earlier. Koshi's case on him is decent in my eyes. ##Unvote ##Vote: Justanothertownie I don't even know what to say to this. It probably doesn't even make him scum. | ||
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The problem is that you claim to POE off of your scumreads because they are so strong. It makes no sense if you don't have good reasons for them. | ||
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That's not making it better at all. | ||
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On March 12 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i do have good reasons for my scumreads. No, you don't. I am not scum and even if I was then that would not be why. I gave early townreads as town before. Boom. Whole argument demolished. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not THOSE kinda townreads. Never. Also you are not really trying to find mafia even when the guy who you don't think is mafia is getting lynched.... You are not sheeping anything, hell you are not even fucking voting for anyone. I am trying to find mafia and nothing of the other things you say makes me mafia. | ||
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Wrong. And even if it wasn't wrong it still would not make me mafia unless you can prove that I am doing this as mafia. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: .. but maybe you were busy or being tunneled by moronic something i don't remember??? So where are your results of "trying to find mafia"? I don't see them. You just gave out an obvious read on ritoky, hell everyone probably just feels the same way. Then you said Onegu is scum for something but you don't really have reasons to make a case on him. You have laid off of Damdred being scum. Idk why is that because you never explain it. I don't really think any of that contributes as "trying to find mafia". Then you are not very good at this thinking thing. If the ritoky read is so obvious then how come almost noone is calling him scum? How come there is no wagon on him? I work with POE from TOWNREADS day1. I always do this as town. Every single game. I have nothing to townread Onegu on so he is mafia by POE. I also did NOT lay off of damdred. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is the fun part: Yes i have considered this. But if ritoky is town mafia does not need to push him, since i am/was being lynched. Why the fuck would mafia push ritoky when they could lynch me instead? So it is a null-tell, something you should think it is aswell given that you do not read me as mafia. I fail to understand how this makes ritoky unlikely to be mafia. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:17 ritoky wrote: yo you guys can cancel this discussion, i am VT also JAT you're wrong. around half the game has me listed as scum because it is in fashion right now. it matches with the sequin dresses every1 is wearing this season. Everyone is listing you as scum but noone is pushing or voting you. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesn't. You make it sound like it is a scumtell which it definitely is not for the reasons i just outlined. wat | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:20 ritoky wrote: also, i don't want to be rude; but your entire read on me is predicated on a lie. the entire reason that everyone thought i was mafia in imperial was because i was angry, tunneled on people, and pushing a ridiculous agenda. completely the opposite of how you described it. JUZZAYIN Uhm, no. That was superbia. I scumread you for doing jackshit. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/i][/i]"If the ritoky read is so obvious then how come almost noone is calling him scum? How come there is no wagon on him?" This is not "a reason mafia is not pushing him as it would be easy" -- aka. he is mafia? It mainly is a rebuttal to your accusation that I am making an obvious read. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:25 Eden1892 wrote: ritoky stop voting for me and vote for jat Why is ritoky town? | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote: rsoultin we not lynching ritoky today girl. Sheep my sheep please I begging you baby girl! Why? | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: ehh.. no it is not. You gave that thought AFTER i said ritoky is an easy read to make. Yes he is . Yes he could -- even probably is mafia. However, the line of thought you gave makes ABSOLUTELY no sense because for you it should not be a scumtell that noone is pushing him. Nothing in this post makes even the slightest bit of sense. If ritoky is mafia then go vote for him because I am not mafia. Of course I gave that thought after you said ritoky is an easy read to make. I can't rebut something you didn't say yet. What on earth are you talking about?! | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:33 Eden1892 wrote: why do i have to think he's town to try to get him to move his vote? what a weird line of inquiry, i don't know for sure that he's mafia so i'm going to try to get him to move his vote where i want it Ok, let me rephrase. Why is ritoky more town than me? | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:35 ritoky wrote: jat do you think damdred is town? No. I think I made that pretty clear. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:35 Eden1892 wrote: he might not be? i don't really know what to make of ritoky quite honestly i kinda do want to lynch him though. hm Then why is your fucking vote on me and not on him? | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:37 Eden1892 wrote: lol just answered. show me one more vote on him or off ray and i'll probably flip over How about this. Everyone just votes for who he thinks is scum and THEN we can talk about shit like this. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:37 rsoultin wrote: mrt ##unvote ##vote: justanothertownie reread rayn's post closer. jat's point is eh rayn...what reads did you get off your "opener" since you were using it to generate discussion, allegedly? JAT's point is not "eh". Even if it was - how does this make you suddenly vote me over ritoky again? | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: It makes perfect sense. If you JAT think i am not mafia, why it is a scumtell for ritoky mafia is not pushing his lynch when everyone and their mother thinks i am mafia and i have all the votes in the game basically? From both perspectives: (1) ritoky is mafia -- wow good for him, town rayn is being lynched (2) ritoky is town -- wow good for mafia, town rayn is being lynched Why would mafia, in this situation, EVER try to call ritoky scum if he is town? I am not saying he is town because i don't even think so, i am saying YOU should not consider "mafia not pushing ritoky" a scumtell for him. And you CLEARLY implied it IS a scumtell for ritoky that noone is pushing his lynch. You failed logic. You shouldn't have that thought as town based on your reads. You fabricated a reason why ritoky would be mafia. I NEVER EVER EVEN PUSHED THIS LOGIC. Also I am getting more and more convinced that this unlike Koshis does not come from town. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:40 rsoultin wrote: lol >< I hate this I don't want to lynch rayn right now. JAT and rit both were scumreads of mine...and honestly I don't have a strong opinion which one gets lynched, though I think a town JAT would be more valuable than a town rit (sorry rit!) Town JAT more valuable than town rit. Votes Jat. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:41 justanothertownie wrote: I NEVER EVER EVEN PUSHED THIS LOGIC. Also I am getting more and more convinced that this unlike Koshis does not come from town. this tunnel* | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:43 rsoultin wrote: >> I don't want to lynch rayn. not rocket science Last time I checked ritoky wasn't rayn. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:44 rsoultin wrote: do we have the votes for ritoky or not? mfcker we still have over an hour -_- ##unvote If you idiots wouldn't all be voting me because there are no votes on ritoky there would be enough votes on ritoky. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then, again. Why did you say this: "If the ritoky read is so obvious then how come almost noone is calling him scum? How come there is no wagon on him?" BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS AN OBVIOUS READ TO MAKE AND THIS PROVES THAT IT ISN'T. UNDERSTANDING THIS IS NOT HARD. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: HOW IS THE ABOVE NOT IMPLYING "RITOKY IS MAFIA BECAUSE OF THIS"????? I just didn't mean to imply this although it might actually be a good point if I think about it. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:48 rsoultin wrote: good freaking god >< MOST PEOPLE WERE CALLING RITOKY MAFIA! RAYN IS RIGHT! STOP BEING OBTUSE! Way to miss the point. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:49 marvellosity wrote: poo, 10 pages to read and I'm about to sit down for dinner Then you better hurry. I could really use a sane person in this game. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:49 ritoky wrote: that you were lying about your read? no i think she got it What? | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote: calm down will you >< if you're town the raging back and forth is not helping I don't do emotion; it's driving me up a wall trying to parse through the shit. calm Ok, let me summarize the whole thing for you AGAIN. Rayn calls me scum for giving an obvious scumread on ritoky (who he is scumreading himself). I rebut this by saying that it can't be that obvious if noone is pushing/voting ritoky. Rayn calls me mafia for saying that ritoky is mafia because noone is pushing him (I never said this). | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:52 marvellosity wrote: oh jat said that. boring. .................................................................................................... | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:52 ritoky wrote: you say most people weren't calling me mafia over half the thread has me on a mafia or a poe mafia list. you are lying. case closed. I corrected that shortly after to: noone is pushing/voting you which says the same and is factually correct. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:56 ritoky wrote: that's not an answer to the question at all, but okay! and how is it baffling? on day 1 if i am pushing on someone it is because i have a 90%+ scum read on them. i only push reads i am confident in. otherwise sheep dem townies. Ok. But I don't see you trying to find dem townies. | ||
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On March 12 2015 05:58 rsoultin wrote: ... you are only saying that your scumread isn't obvious...which is inherently untrue...so either you two are miscommunicating or your argument is another pointless shitfight you guys got to stop focusing on the words and instead on the intent >< he says you're maf for obv scumread you say it can't be that obv cause such and such he says it can still be obv cause such and such doesn't mean rit isn't being scumread are we done now? >< No, we aren't because the bolded is wrong. He is not saying that. He is saying that I called ritoky scum BECAUSE noone is pushing him which I never did. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:00 ritoky wrote: i found 2 confirmed town, palmar and damdred. koochi is like 80% town too. urr1 else is in gray area somewhere This is so bad it hurts. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:00 LightningStrike wrote: Did you guys not see ritoky claim VT earlier? What would he gain if he was Mafia to claim VT Day 1? What does he gain as town? The answer is he isn't gaining anything regardless of his alignment which makes the claim not alignment indicative. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: LightningStrike do you have an opinion on Onegu? marv please get back here. NOW! We can also lynch Onegu. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:04 rsoultin wrote: ... anyone who says they are town...are essentially claiming vt -_- And since everyone says that they are town it is a completely useless and uninteresting claim. Indeed. | ||
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Good point. Yes he did. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is already here and talking!!!!! Vote for JAT. He is here and talking and being useless. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: So because useless person started doing useless things by calling other useless people mafia but not pushing them your conclusion is the useless person first referred to is now more town than the second one. bleh you're staring to annoy me with your thought processes... How on earth is calling ritoky mafia useless? | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote: -sits on jats head- ##vote: justanothertownie there is your sheep ls puppy! <3 Are you just doing this so that LS feels important? I honestly don't see any other explanation for this. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: You do not read the obvious scum motivation behind JAT's post. Which is to enforce the ritoky mafia read to make you assholes vote for him, when in fact that should not make ritoky any more mafia to JAT. If something does not make someone any more mafia for them, why say it in a manner it implies so? He wants to lynch ritoky and he is sneaking into you people to make you think ritoky should be scumread for something he should not. IT'S A LOGICAL FALLACY!! It is simple. This guy. He is now literally calling me scum for trying to lynch his scumread. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:17 rsoultin wrote: lol sure, jat. I sheep people to make them feel good xP what makes you so overwhelmingly town that you think it's impossible for me to arrive at the conclusion that you're scum on my own? I never said that and you know it but there is 0 reason to change back to me. 0. You just learned that I was right about the thing you attacked me for earlier. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am calling you scum (in this certain topic) for not trying to lynch any of your scumreads, but magically when you are up for being lynched you invent a reason for someone to be mafia. A reason that should not even exist in your world. Ritoky has been in my scumlist for ages. For fucking ages. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:18 Onegu wrote: Ok sheep Rayn my town soul read. ##VOTE: JustAnotherTownie This should ring some alarm bells. | ||
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For not doing anything at all. If he had played the game while making the pickles joke - fine. But he didn't. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah and this has nothing to do with if you have read ritoky scum or not..... I don't need to invent a reason for someone to be mafia if I am already calling him mafia. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote: I didn't attack you. I prefer an actual discussion to screaming back and forth because then I actually understand what is going on -_- and rayn's point is a good one, actually. so. there's your 0 reason xP there literally is no reason for scum to push rit as town or scum with rayn on the block...unless rayn is scum. so really the only thing that comment does is make rayn look more town -_- No it is not. Why? Because rayns calls me scum for saying ritoky is scum for this when I HAVEN'T DONE SO. How can you not understand something so simple? | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:25 Koshi wrote: JAT do you agree that if you are not mafia marv is? No, I obviously do not agree because I townread marv. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: well but you did. of course you say you didn't because you are mafia, but you did. NO I DID NOT. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. I NEVER SAID RITOKY WAS MAFIA BECAUSE NOONE WAS PUSHING HIM. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:27 rsoultin wrote: -_- -sits on jat's head again- Ok. Point out exactly where you disagree with my reasoning. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:27 Eden1892 wrote: fwiw i think this could be a good place to look next if jat is town. like i said marv has been treating jat with kid gloves the whole day and it's kinda bizarre i just wish palmar didn't decide to vote marv and then do nothing because i was kinda hoping he could read marv for me. but if he's not gonna play ball Stop planning future lynches and get this one right instead. Pro tip: Lynching me is not getting it right. | ||
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No, I am not. Answer please. You either genuinely don't understand what I am sayin or you don't want to understand it. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote: kinda like how rsoultin was obvious town right You also praised how town she was btw. Now get off your ass and push a lynch. | ||
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Ritoky. But I can also lynch Palmar/Onegu or Rayn. Or damdred. Where the fuck are damdred and Palmar anyways? I guess scum just does not need to do anything right now. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote: I was rereading your filter. So I don't agree with rayn that you were making that statement as a scumtell. But it sure as hell doesn't make the ritoky read any less obvious. ritoky and onegu are default scumreads...no effort. no analysis. Easiest scumreads in the game. Talk to me about Damdred. Completely forgettable. Eden made a not awful case on him. Would lynch. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:36 marvellosity wrote: just for the stuff he has posted this evening (rayn)?? Mainly. He was not impressing me earlier but nothing I would lynch him for. I wanted to see what he would come up with today and he only came up with bullshit. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: 3 pages in last game as smurf. The fact that he was smurfing invalidates the point. He was also smurfing for the very reason of time constraints. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote: 4 pages used to be my minimual per day, I think my average is roughly 5 pages since carol maybe 7. Had an emergency at work just got home on page 77 Speak of the devil. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:44 Koshi wrote: Dude. There is a 95% certainty we are lynching you. I am not moving. rayn is not moving. Onegu is not moving. NONONONONO. GET FUCKING OFF OF ME. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:45 marvellosity wrote: you kept defending him when i was pushing him? repeatedly Because I didn't think what he said made him scum. So what? DO something about this lynch instead of asking questions like this. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:45 Koshi wrote: Why? You are dead then. you can't do anything with the explanation. And the explanation would be wrong. rofl. I AM NOT DEAD YET. AND OTHER PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHECK IF SHE WAS JUST BEING STUPID OR MAFIA | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:45 LightningStrike wrote: The last time JAT tried to bully people off him as a lynch candidate he was Mafia. Lynch him with Fire Boys! Yeah, because as town I would obviously just let you lynch me instead. This is so stupid. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: she is town. you didn't give any fucks when people though i was mafia JAT. Why didn't you give any fuck why people thought i was mafia? What are you talking about? I literally discussed this with marv. If I didn't give a shit why bother? | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:49 marvellosity wrote: because everyone is telling me i am wrong on rayn and it's feeling like my Damdred case in Horn (which eden so delicately pointed out) i am reading your filter and trying to find reasons to call you town but i'm not doing very well. OMFG I AM THE MEDIC I AM LITERALLY GERIPT NOW GO AND FUCKING VOTE SOMEONE ELSE THIS TOWN IS GIVING ME CANCER | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: i cc JAT. Nice. ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet Vote this scum. NOW. | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:55 Palmar wrote: Like I'm literally not joking. I am the medic. WHY ARE YOU SUCH A USELESS FUCKING TROLL THIS GAME? sdjhgnrt | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:56 LightningStrike wrote: If you are the medic we lynch Rayn tomorrow but he had no reason to counter claim you if he was Mfia though lol.... BUT HE DID AND I AM TOWN SO HE IS MAFIA | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:57 marvellosity wrote: sorry if you're town jat. but there's no other way. just lynch rayn if you don't I will flame the shit out of you | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:57 Palmar wrote: time to get mislynched JAT. #rekt asshole | ||
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On March 12 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh so you are "if" medic? What's that. I AM medic. stfu | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:05 Koshi wrote: K. I don't even know how rayn was mafia. He just was. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:05 Koshi wrote: Or how there is a framer/gf and unware miller vs a co. Yeah, not only did marv lose a lot of money when he made that bet about Onegu not naming scum in his list - he also killed a lot of people with his setup speculation. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:06 Koshi wrote: rayn bro Never should have killed me. Basically this. You even checked framed Palmar last night. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:08 Eden1892 wrote: so bad i caught you when everyone else in the thread wanted me or palmar Good thing your last words were "kill rayn" *cough* | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I didn't really follow along, but why did rayn get lynched? Basically because Palmar is incapable of playing like this as mafia. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Or jat for that matter. Rayn/Onegu thought it would be a good play to lynch me and I wanted out of the game anyways :/ | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Regardless of why you subbed out thanks for making mafia's #1 mislynch unavailable for subbing out, then playing another game the next day or so and also basically confirming yourself as town to marv. Dude, he had a really good reason. Trust me. I know what you are talking about though, I complained about it plenty in the obs qt. | ||
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People just put in way more effort when they are town and make themselves innocent childs this way. Examples are Marv/Eden/Palmar/etc. Where is this effort when you roll scum? It is fucking annoying to be one of 2-3 players on this site who really bother to play as scum. I certainly don't do it because I am enjoying it. Yet all I get for this is that I will be accused every fucking game for the stupidest shit while other people are able to just switch into townmode if they really get into trouble because they just don't bother to put in the same effort as scum. /rant | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote: I PM'D MARV WHEN I WAS DEAD. DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD That doesn't make it ok. Telling him why you replaced out was gamerelevant information and HE WAS NOT DEAD. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:22 Palmar wrote: This game was an anomaly for me, scum or town JAT. Yes it was but it is still generally true for many people and also for you. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:25 Palmar wrote: If there's anything I'd rant about it's the whole thing with selfvoting and going all emo when under pressure. Can we not just fight it like normal insane human beings? YES, this too. Kinda relates to what I am saying too. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:26 Eden1892 wrote: not intentional, i agree it's a problem but i'm not actively nerfing my scum game to help my town game so i'm not really sure what to do about it :/ i would much rather have a strong scum game and not have a townie panic button, and i intend to make it happen Please do so because I am sick and tired of it. As scum you just don't have a chance to play against people like this. They don't even need to figure anything out besides being obviously town. As town you get immediately accused because you actually try as scum compared to them. Fuck this. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:28 Damdred wrote: Honestly JAT you played pretty well d1, I think at the start you got called out for some really shitty things that I didn't think made you scum. The only reason I voted for you was because you kept saying how scummy I was but never did vote for me. It bothered me and rubbed me the wrong way, I actually like playing against you though. I never throw my vote around as town though. Often I vote only once all day1 and it is in the last minutes of the day. Who on earth comes up with this stuff all the time? | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote: Come on JAT i'm giving you a compliment and explaining why I vote you and it was mainly a gut thing... That wasn't directed at you specifically. Hapa also brought something like that up. Goes to show how little people actually know about my townplay. I was absolutely honest when I said nobody had brought up any good reasons for me to be mafia besides maybe Eden who had a decentish one. Koshi was just spouting the worst kind of bullshit left and right and rayns reason was just based on something that didn't even happen. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:35 LightningStrike wrote: I sorry I played that claim stuff really bad Day 2 Any tips on how to handle it in the future?It was ok. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:37 Damdred wrote: Actually I thought I saw some real differences when I looked at your filter here and in imperial. I still don't think its necessarily what Prph saw, and i'd have to do some real comparison on other filters but there is a difference even if its slight. Either way yea, the tunnel on you mid d1 was painful to read honestly. No shit it looks different than Imperial. If this game was an anomaly for Palmar then Imperial was an anomaly for me. It is absolutely NOT the towngame to look at if you want to check my meta. Who knows what you are talking about - maybe it is even legit - but don't ever call me scum because I don't play like I did in that abomination of a game. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:40 Palmar wrote: I posted 43? pages this game. The closest I've been is 23, 24 and 26. Ever. All those times I've been town. Point proven. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote: OH no i'm not calling you scum because of that, imperial is the worst game in the world to compare anything to. Then why does everyone always compare my play to this game? . . . | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:43 Eden1892 wrote: i am probably forgetting games, but when was the last time you were town? I don't even remember. Could actually be Imperial. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:45 Eden1892 wrote: and before that... lol i have a feeling people (unfairly) use imperial because it's the only one they can remember rofl No idea -> look into the database. I seems to mysteriously only roll scum recently. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:46 Damdred wrote: I'd agree with this. Palmar is really enjoyable to be on a mafia team with. If only ritoky hadn't shot me... Yeah, no doubt he is. And there are far worse cases than him I only named him as an example because it showed so strongly in this game. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:48 Palmar wrote: It's just so much easier. It's not even the effort level. Posting as mafia is really hard. Each post, each sentence requires double the effort. Of course it is harder and I am not saying people should manage to make themselves completely unreadable but look at Edens filter this game. Then look at any of his scumgames. Yeah.... Same about Koshi. That guy is basically an innocent child as town. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: eh i don't think you can blame people who try as scum? like there's a huge difference between just giving up the moment you see your role pm and >> being bad at it lol Sure. But what I am saying is that most people try way less as scum and that's a serious problem. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:54 Damdred wrote: I try not to be so try hard as town. It just comes easier and I like solving the game blah. Take out the emo thing which I am going to take out and I could have a good mafia confusing game You are actually one of the players I am absolutely not talking about right now. For some reason people always have doubts about you/like to mislynch you. | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote: :/ yeah that's true on the plus side i get discouraged as both alignments, yay! >< yeah sorry i know i don't play scum well -_- or town lol why am i here again? lol | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:00 Damdred wrote: Actually JAT I had this one streak where I rolled scum like in 4 games straight I think and replaced in twice as scum in like 3 months. It was depressing, I mean its not chairman ray depressing but still Yes, it is. It is fucking depressing. That's the correct word to describe it. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:03 Palmar wrote: Overall I actually think this was a great game. Everyone put in effort to win, it was close and exciting right to lylo, there were a lot of funny and interesting moments in it. Onegu and ritoky already forgotten. Mainly Onegu. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:06 Eden1892 wrote: oh, on the funniest moment: i nominate slam posting and several people actually giving reads on him (me included) Yes, but this still has to stop. Slam has no business posting in games he doesn't take part in and he should know this by now. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:08 Damdred wrote: O_o, my slot was dead. And I told marv I was sorry for being an ass to him. Then told him what happened to my wife explaining why I was an ass to him.... Like nothing game wise came up at all Maybe, maybe not. It was still relevant to the game/people were discussing this so you should not have done this. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:11 Keirathi wrote: The way I see it, there are basically 3 skills you need to play a game of mafia: 1) The ability to read people's alignments 2) The ability to look town yourself 3) The ability to convince people that your read is correct For me, I'm reasonably okay at (1), pretty good at (2), and terrible at (3). The problem is taht when you roll mafia, you don't have to do (1) anymore. So your (2) and (3) have to compensate. For me, that means that the part I am the worst at is a huge part of what it takes to be good at scum. You *HAVE* to be able to manipulate people/the thread to get your votes through. So even if it seems like I'm trying less as scum, it's more that I don't try to do (3) at all really, even when I'm town, and it just makes it even more of a weakness if i roll scum since it counts for more. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this. But it was fun to think about  Depends on how you play scum though. Your first priority should be to play like you do as town and if you don't bully people to sheep your reads you also don't need to do it as scum. If mafia looks town then town often just destroys itself without scum having to do anything. This almost happened this game even though the remaining townies looked a million times more towny than the last scum. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: dude seriously you're trying to say that apologizing to someone after your slot has flipped for the way you behaved before you subbed out is game-breaking? leave it alone -_- you and rayn have made your point and it's a bad one at that No, it is not a bad point at all and you saying it doesn't make it one. He can do that when the game is over or marv is dead. People were discussing why he subbed out in the thread. He gave an alive townplayer the solution to the mystery. He therefore influenced the game from the grave. That's not ok. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote: I don't actually agree with this. If my slot is dead and X is my friend and I was horrible to them and nothing game relevant is said I don't think anything is wrong in that regard. I just don't see how its relevant to the game though. I agree with this post but the bolded is simply not correct in this instance. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:21 rsoultin wrote: ...after FF had flipped like i don't even get why you think this is remotely important whatever y'all apparently don't understand this is just a game and i'm not having this argument in the thread but being on my way out of the military and i mean this with all due respect fuck you guys for complaining about shit like this ^^ your beef is simply NOT IMPORTANT There is no beef. Stuff like that simply shouldn't happen and ignoring it because there are more important things irl is not the correct way to go about it. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:22 rsoultin wrote: like seriously it's getting close to genuinely pissing me off that you guys can't take a time out from the ego-trips over a stupid game long enough to realize that you need to just shut up >< /out (i really don't hate you guys but seriously ^^; reality check yeah?) Is this your problem with reading emotion? I am not angry at Damdred or anything (and I hope he isn't with me) I am just stating what I think should not happen in a game of mafia. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:24 Keirathi wrote: Yea I'm failing to see how it was game-relevant information? What information did it provide? It didn't say anything about marv's alignment. It obviously didn't say anything about damdred/fecalfeast's alignment since the slot was already dead. I'm...not sure what the game-relevant part was supposed to be? I was operating under the assumption that it happened while FF was still alive. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:31 Fecalfeast wrote: this counts as a win for me, right? grmbl | ||
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On March 24 2015 21:43 marvellosity wrote: raynpelikoneet 03-21-2015 12:06 PM ET (US) Koshi please do not lynch me in every game after this. This is not how i usually do play as mafia, our play was just really shit on D1 and we drove ourselves into a position which was kinda unwinnable so we went for big plays. ^_^ Like I don't get why rayn is mad. I understood that what he said here was the case. It was part of what I said. Palmar and I both talked about how rayn and jat were leading the votes, how rayn should have been the counterwagon, how mafia were in a bad spot, how what rayn did with the claim was a good play for mafia. The thing is he isn't even right. We could have easily mislynched someone without all the bussing. | ||
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On March 24 2015 21:49 marvellosity wrote: why on earth did rayn kill Koshi last night when he had a frame? that's inexplicable to me Yeah, it is sad. But on the other hand - noone else would have done this so it really implicates him. | ||
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On March 24 2015 21:51 marvellosity wrote: Of course it does. But you just handwave it away with #wifom Koshi was never lynching rayn! You don't need to convince me. I said he should shoot you the whole time... | ||
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On March 24 2015 22:10 Palmar wrote: like I think both sides played well and town got a bit lucky. Town got incredibly lucky with the damdred replacement. If nothing like that happens mafia wins. If mafia makes better nightkills throughout the game mafia also wins. Sad times. | ||
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The only reason I engaged this was that I knew you would get doubts when one of us flips. | ||
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On March 25 2015 00:48 LightningStrike wrote: I think JAT is salty on the fact he had rolled Mafia for the last 3 games I think? Impossible. Regardless I don't understand why everyone is saying scum played well. Scum did NOT play well. I did not play well, Onegu did certainly not play well and Rayn didn't either. All he did was bussing and and awful night actions. He had a few decet days in between but the only reason he even came so far is that he bussed everyone else. That's neither hard to do nor is it good play. Whatever. | ||
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On March 26 2015 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: well scumteam didn't really play and jat had even nerve to go tell here i unnecessarily bussed. that fucker. I DID play. And yeah, bussing day1 was not necessary. Bussing Onegu this hard wasn't either. | ||
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I wasn't talking about actually lynching one of us there. I made it pretty clear that there are always other possibilities. Anyways, there is nothing to argue here. We made the incorrect decision as a team in the end since I did not stop you from doing this. I can't fault you for not bringing it home under these circumstances - you clearly played the best game out of the scum players. | ||
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