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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 17:46 GMT
#5401
On March 19 2015 02:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 02:40 Palmar wrote:
I think I asked this yesterday.

Is there ANYONE in the thread that thought Onegu was town?

Isn't it absolutely clear that whoever Onegu's partner is, bussed him?

Did you see how much resistance there was regarding lynching Onegu? Even when you count Koshi out.
There were wagons on prplhz, marv and Eden (even me). Like i don't understand how you can even come to that conclusion.

sure, but just about everyone on those alternate wagons was all like "yeah but Onegu is probably mafia too".

He was being actively called mafia by his partner, whether or not his partner voted for him I don't know.

If I am mafia here rayn, do you think I actually thought marv was going to be lynched when the Eden wagon disintegrated and I went back to marv?

no, probably not but what does it matter?
Like you do not gain any credit for voting Onegu at that point if you are mafia because you have been pushing everything else the whole day anyways...
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:52 GMT
#5402
On March 19 2015 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 02:44 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 02:40 Palmar wrote:
I think I asked this yesterday.

Is there ANYONE in the thread that thought Onegu was town?

Isn't it absolutely clear that whoever Onegu's partner is, bussed him?

Did you see how much resistance there was regarding lynching Onegu? Even when you count Koshi out.
There were wagons on prplhz, marv and Eden (even me). Like i don't understand how you can even come to that conclusion.

sure, but just about everyone on those alternate wagons was all like "yeah but Onegu is probably mafia too".

He was being actively called mafia by his partner, whether or not his partner voted for him I don't know.

If I am mafia here rayn, do you think I actually thought marv was going to be lynched when the Eden wagon disintegrated and I went back to marv?

no, probably not but what does it matter?
Like you do not gain any credit for voting Onegu at that point if you are mafia because you have been pushing everything else the whole day anyways...

Everything else is a bit of an overstatement. Don't fall into the trap that everyone who doesn't push absolutely the correct things at all the time is mafia. My explanation is quite simple.

Even if marv is town, I narrowed mafia down to 2 people and at least one of them was mafia. Yes unfortunately I pushed the one that's possibly wrong, but still.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 18:02 GMT
#5403
Do you still think marv is mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 18:03 GMT
#5404
On March 19 2015 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you still think marv is mafia?

It's a possibility.

I think it's less likely than I thought it was yesterday.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 18:05 GMT
#5405
On March 19 2015 03:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you still think marv is mafia?

It's a possibility.

I think it's less likely than I thought it was yesterday.

The how does it make sense you say "i thought two people are scum, Onegu and marv and i pushed the "wrong" one" if your original assumption is they could very well be scum together?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 18:11 GMT
#5406
On March 19 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you still think marv is mafia?

It's a possibility.

I think it's less likely than I thought it was yesterday.

The how does it make sense you say "i thought two people are scum, Onegu and marv and i pushed the "wrong" one" if your original assumption is they could very well be scum together?

Well one of them is confirmed mafia, and the other one is now less likely to be mafia than I previously thought.

By definition that makes my push yesterday the wrong one in hindsight given my current worldview.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 18:16 GMT
#5407
On March 19 2015 03:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 03:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you still think marv is mafia?

It's a possibility.

I think it's less likely than I thought it was yesterday.

The how does it make sense you say "i thought two people are scum, Onegu and marv and i pushed the "wrong" one" if your original assumption is they could very well be scum together?

Well one of them is confirmed mafia, and the other one is now less likely to be mafia than I previously thought.

Why this?
Like you literally give no implication of "if one of them is mafia the other one is not". Why does this apply now?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 18:23 GMT
#5408
My filter. Page 29. First three posts on page.

I'd quote them for you but while of course it matters somewhat. Onegu flipping doesn't really have much to do with what I think of Marv
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 18:24 GMT
#5409
Eh that was a confusing post. I'm on phone will talk later. But I think you' get the idea
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 18:36 GMT
#5410
On March 19 2015 03:23 Palmar wrote:
My filter. Page 29. First three posts on page.

I'd quote them for you but while of course it matters somewhat. Onegu flipping doesn't really have much to do with what I think of Marv

On March 19 2015 03:24 Palmar wrote:
Eh that was a confusing post. I'm on phone will talk later. But I think you' get the idea

yeah it was.
it doesn't really say anything to me.
I don't get the idea.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 18:37 GMT
#5411
Quoted for end game credits:
On March 10 2015 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes. I am the sexiest. Or maybe marv.

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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 18:56 GMT
#5412
Ray what exactly do/did you need explained? Marv too. I know the ritoky thing is one. What else?

Palmar I don't think you said anything about my research in the night. It implicates you pretty strongly in my mind. What do you have to say about it?


Also marv just cuz Onegu is a busser doesn't mean he always busses. I will need to look at his past games but I've seen Onegu be mafia once or twice before. I don't remember him bussing a partner the whole time and not ever doing anything else.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 18:59 GMT
#5413
On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Ray what exactly do/did you need explained? Marv too. I know the ritoky thing is one. What else?

My post you answered already. I don't buy it. Your answer to me reads like "i don't do these things as scum, only as town" which does not really say why you did those things in this game.

Also who is mafia and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 19:00 GMT
#5414
Like Onegu didn't do the things he did in this game as scum either. If we believed him he would never be lynched.
So your reasoning isn't really good Eden. I want some real reasoning behind your actions i find irrational.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 19:04 GMT
#5415
On March 19 2015 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Ray what exactly do/did you need explained? Marv too. I know the ritoky thing is one. What else?

My post you answered already. I don't buy it. Your answer to me reads like "i don't do these things as scum, only as town" which does not really say why you did those things in this game.

Also who is mafia and why?

Palmar for all the stuff I said in a row last night

Rest to come when I'm home soon
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 19:18 GMT
#5416
On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Ray what exactly do/did you need explained? Marv too. I know the ritoky thing is one. What else?

Palmar I don't think you said anything about my research in the night. It implicates you pretty strongly in my mind. What do you have to say about it?


Also marv just cuz Onegu is a busser doesn't mean he always busses. I will need to look at his past games but I've seen Onegu be mafia once or twice before. I don't remember him bussing a partner the whole time and not ever doing anything else.

Why should I say anything about it?

There is one post from me there and I've explained quite thoroughly to rayn why I didnt vote Onegu.

The rest is just posts from other people talking about me so I don't see why you need my input
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 19:23 GMT
#5417
On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Also marv just cuz Onegu is a busser doesn't mean he always busses. I will need to look at his past games but I've seen Onegu be mafia once or twice before. I don't remember him bussing a partner the whole time and not ever doing anything else.

I am not sure where you (or marv) are getting with this but:
Onegu bussed (similar to JAT in this game on D1) batsnacks quite hardcore in his last mafia game.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 18 2015 19:23 GMT
#5418
On March 19 2015 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Ray what exactly do/did you need explained? Marv too. I know the ritoky thing is one. What else?

My post you answered already. I don't buy it. Your answer to me reads like "i don't do these things as scum, only as town" which does not really say why you did those things in this game.

Also who is mafia and why?

Ok back to this. What specifically? Obviously you feel I didn't answer satisfactorily but I feel like I did, so this is probably just going to lead to me repeating the same unsatisfying answers thinking they're satisfactory. What specific instances of things I did do you want explained?

@marv, I didn't think I was going to get my lynch and defaulted back to someone who I instinctively felt was town but logically thought was probably mafia. I couldn't think of any compelling response to the observation that he only seemed to have a couple of townreads and no suspects, so I figured my instinct was wrong. It wasn't. That post where I said "watch him flip town" or whatever was me expressing frustration with the fact that I couldn't verbalize why I felt he was town. I guess I can see why an outside observer would think that sequence is weird, but don't tell me you've never been in a situation where you felt something was true but couldn't explain it, because everybody deals with that all the time in-game and in life in general
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 19:24 GMT
#5419
EBWOP:
well i am not sure if that was his last mafia game but the last one i remember playing with him in where he was mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2015 19:27 GMT
#5420
Eden:
- why do you give reasons for ritoky to be mafia with JAT then read him town?
- why did you want to lynch ritoky on D1 with your scumread JAT?
- why do you instantly vote for Palmar for his claim on D2?
- On D2 you HC scumread Damdred and Onegu, then you go to Palmar + marv being mafia. Why?
- also what marv asked you
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