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Are you trying to say that your scum claim was no-nonsense? | ||
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On March 02 2015 08:40 rsoultin wrote: Lol, this from the trolly disappearing Palmar posting in Icelandic (is that what the language is called)? Are you trying to say that your scum claim was no-nonsense? I'm a koala and you're a parrot -_- On March 02 2015 08:44 Onegu wrote: I re rolled VT again I'm massively upset. If you are going to make me roll town at least let me be blue jeez. Also so Palmar claims scum, then suggests policy lynching trolling and fake claims lol. | ||
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On March 02 2015 08:55 Palmar wrote: I let that one slide because I wasn't in the thread yet to establish my no nonsense stuff. It's only when ritoky continued that I felt like something shitty was going on. So I know this shouldn't bug me, but it does. I know that hypocrisy isn't alignment-indicative, even if it makes my skin itch. However, when I basically mock you for being a hypocrite, and you come back with you're letting it slide because you hadn't posted yet? Letting what slide, Palmar? Your own scum claim? My post had nothing to do with anyone but you. What about my post was unclear? | ||
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Where is Robik to scream at the thread about everyone being idiots when you need him? | ||
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On March 02 2015 10:45 Damdred wrote: Your an idiot RS. Now tell me why snickers is mafia <3! Not Robik and not as angry, but it'll do. Obviously snickers is town! He knows that KSC divined his role before opening it and therefore deliberately got himself banned over an innocuous comment that was completely predictable bannable material, simply to have a good excuse not to play as scum, yup yup ^^ Why is Onegu mafia? | ||
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On March 02 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote: Because he said so silly goose. I do think ritoky is town do far though Lol, that's a different way to read Onegu's post xP May want to try again. More seriously, I don't think I'd be trying to lynch any of the players right now :/ Maybe Truffle for lawlz. Yeah, Truffle for lawlz ^^ | ||
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On March 02 2015 11:38 ritoky wrote: @damdred, what do you think of rsoul, trfel, superbia, and onegu and their subsequent reactions to my and palmar's little spat? How about prp's lack of reaction to....pretty much everything? lol On March 02 2015 11:41 Trfel wrote: !!! (whimpers on the floor, begging for mercy) I agree with Damdred, Snickers feels most suspicious thus far.Reasoning is because there is almost no town incentive to ask for a lynch on a player who is physically incapable of posting. Especially this early into Day 1. While I can see it as a joke, I'm a bit suspicious. I don't think that Palmar's opening is much more likely to come from mafia than town, but he still deserves a small hill to climb for it. And I am a tad surprised at someone complaining about nonsense three posts into the thread, while I actually found ritoky's posting to be (only slightly) more useful than the nonsense posting in the earlier game. Now that's a post more like what I expect from a town Truffle ^^ | ||
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And that post looked less like a post I'd expect from a town Truffle. That's disappointing. What the hell is it supposed to mean that he deserves to be lynched if he's town? That's stupid. @ritoky Okay, I get where you're coming from. His posts didn't strike me as anything deserving of a lynching, either. | ||
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??? Are you seriously asking me which part of Palmar's posts don't look like they're coming from scum, or what? I could go into the WIFOM of the low likelihood of scum claiming scum then saying we should all be serious if you really want me to, but this is pretty duh xP | ||
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On March 02 2015 13:47 ritoky wrote: Why is it wrong to ask you to justify your position? You had a pretty negative initial reaction to his posts, and have now arrived at a position of him leaning or being town; I want to know what part of the posts changed your opinion or makes you believe isn't mafia. Did I now? Interesting. I don't remember it that way. I remember finding it funny that he was talking about being serious after what was probably a fake-claim, and finding his response to my comment odd because it wasn't actually...responding...to my comment at all. Let me clarify some of my other posting since y'all don't get sarcasm: Every time someone was making a claim that could not be verified, I posted a similarly believable claim: I'm a koala. Onegu coming in and reiterating what I'd just said made him a parrot, especially since he was making another useless claim. If you have any more questions, please ask. Also, if I had to lynch anyone right this second, Snickers would be my man. You're sucking wind, boyo. Not explaining yourself and wasting posts to advise others not to waste posts? Lol, you're scum or dumb. | ||
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On March 02 2015 14:21 ritoky wrote: meh dunno about that post, a little defensive and targeting low hanging fruit, but eh. dunno. [...] superbia is probably town for mind melding me about trfel. [..] Lol, just admit you were wrong and move on  You look more town to me than Palmar does, but the read isn't terrible. It's just not based on anything that would mean shit after Day 1 lol Don't agree on super. Way too easy to pick at an unexplained change from one post to the next. There also wasn't any follow-through, and his vote's still on Palmar so... | ||
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Take that back; Robik gets a light townread just for his post on prplhz ^^ | ||
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-just gonna ignore palmar until he starts acting like he didn't check his sanity at the door- | ||
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And it's mostly just cause prp is being useless, though again, this game is frustrating so that may not mean anything. And as for the Onegu case...lol, what case >< jeez and lol? We're going to give a shit about one person voting and afking when several did? No shit, I'd lynch Palmar right now just to not have to deal with three of him arguing with himself ^^ | ||
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Scum can just sit around and barely post in a thread like this. It's poison. | ||
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Damdred was asking about my light townread on Robik. Keep up. You are posting way too much like you posted when we were scum together, prp. | ||
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it's a gut read but I'm fine with it | ||
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On March 03 2015 04:57 Alakaslam wrote: And how do you townread Ritoky He is SCUMREAD of palmar Palmar is practicing greater CHUPAZI this game than ever before CHUPAZI had been done One of the only players playing the game, and I can follow his line of thinking. If I wanted CHUPAZI I'd channel blazinghand and just RNG a lynch. On March 03 2015 04:57 Snickers wrote: Resoltin make a list of every player, reads, and who you would lynch You first, useless. I've been giving reads and thoughts all game. | ||
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On March 03 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote: That wasn't to you rsoultin though silly girl. Would you sheep me to a glorious lynch? give me a glorious lynch to sheep, and you betcha damdy lol >< but you know me; I never follow anyone blindly looks like robik is having my same too many scummy players problem :/ | ||
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He falls into a would lynch category of: prp slam - boring boring boring trfel - I hated the post ritoky just pointed out above, too...less concerned about the read flip, but the explanation was blah Couple others I don't like, but I don't know if their posting is alignment indicative or not: Onegu, Snickers | ||
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On March 03 2015 09:20 ritoky wrote: what made you arrive here from "boring boring boring" as your read on slam earlier? also, why did you vote for slam when you did? you hadn't mentioned him in your filter up to that point. tone read boring slam is a scum slam he contributed nothing and just randomly sheeped palmar (maybe y'all can tell if palmar's serious or not about lynching you but I sure can't) this latest post was a bunch of nothing again. it wasn't a change in reads at all lol just reaffirming the one I already had; i'm not going to vote to lynch someone I don't think is scum | ||
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Eh, "town jesus" is boring as fuck, lol, and I see nothing in his reads original except his attempt to tie our alignments together. But I don't know him. If what Damdy says is true, then the guy sucks regardless of alignment, so I'd rather lynch someone I'm scumreading who isn't lynchbait and I'm actually more confident in reading. | ||
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On March 03 2015 11:47 prplhz wrote: 19 @rsoultin Also write something about why you thought I was a good lynch and why you're not so sure anymore. Your posts were empty and had no direction earlier. They're more pointed now. Not enough for a townread, but I don't want to lynch you today. | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:16 prplhz wrote: 26 @rsoultin Can you show me this Alakaslam bored/notbored read thing you have going on? I just checked out these scum games 1 3 7 and these town games 1 51 i and I don't see it. Then I don't know what to tell you? The difference between this game and Titanic is like night and day. Pick Your Protoss as well. Student mafia 4 is a bad one, though, cause he couldn't play that game. Instead of reading what he's saying, read for intent. It's whether his posts actually help move the thread forward or not. The way Slam plays, he tries to POE scum by identifying town. I see none of that here. Also, remember last game where he just randomly jumped on a wagon with me without doing much of anything himself? It's not too early for a meta read on slam. I'd say more but I can't cause my best example I'm not permitted to talk about lol. | ||
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On February 14 2015 14:56 Alakaslam wrote: Members of the scumteam! ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130625014355/disney/images/c/ce/Snow-white-disneyscreencaps.com-7983.jpg) Beware we, the CHUPAZI. We have great wisdom and will find you all and ![[image loading]](http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140106053755/disney/images/3/3b/Timon%26Pumbaa_VulturePolice.png) Now, to my fellow CHUPAZI; a task! ![[image loading]](http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Jungle-Book-Thats-What-Friends/videosong.jpg) Identify each of us within the images! Should be fun 4 most of the game. ![[image loading]](http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101130004135/disney/images/7/77/Trigger1.PNG) ![[image loading]](http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101130004919/disney/images/2/23/Nutsy.PNG) Us all being present far from guaranteed; not enough Disney CHUPAZI This post for example. Goofy way to get reads, but he kept trying to get people to play with him ^^ and even quoted his own post a few times to get others to engage. And Protoss is just a gold mine of actually valuable posting. Still some posts that aren't going anywhere, but he's clearly engaged. Then there's Page 6+ where he goes on this long rant that Palmar isn't getting mad at people deviating from his plan lol and even though that rant was invalid cause Slam missed the post where Palmar did growl about it, the investment in the game was obvious ^^ | ||
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VOTE SLAM WITH ME IF YOU'RE TOWN if not, please carry on and be dumb xP snickers obviously isn't the best lynch today | ||
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On March 03 2015 14:24 Trfel wrote: Why are you so confident that Alakaslam is scum? I still am not sure if he has had enough time to allow us to read him by amount of original direction. If I recall correctly, you weren't convinced that Alakaslam was scum last game, despite a somewhat similar lack of original direction to what he has shown in this game. Why the scumread this game and not so much last game, while this game is not as far along? I agree that Alakaslam looks rather suspicious, and I wouldn't mind lynching him, but I feel that there is a better lynch out there. Last game was my first true encounter with a scum Slam. He was scum in my first game on TL, but AFK'd due to IRL reasons after just a few posts... I am 100% positive that he's had enough time to be original and 100% positive that the poisonous way this game started out is precisely the environment he'd feel the need to be original in. This game more mirrors last game than my town games with him. And frankly, most of the other lynches being pushed are people I don't know how to read yet, cause let's face it...some people just read scummy. | ||
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You're also wrong on snickers I'm pretty sure, or at least if you're not there's good reason to reconsider your read. I have more to go off of on Slam than you do on snickers. | ||
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how sure are you on prp? | ||
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I am not voting Snickers today. Neither is most of the rest of the thread. If he's one of the scum, find the other two. Unless you come up with something mind-bogglingly amazing, your push is not going anywhere. -pats on head- | ||
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you suck at it xP eh, i'm fairly confident that slam is scum. more to the point, he's the lead wagon right now. prp has clawed his way up to nullish for me atm, but if you've got a good reason to think he's scum, please provide it? oats is a pure plynch which i'm fine with under certain circumstances, but this isn't it | ||
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On March 04 2015 04:23 IAmRobik wrote: Maybe slam is mafia. I could be wrong on him. What do you mean reason being? The reason is that I read the thread and those are the conclusions that I drew. meh can I stab you? I kinda want to stab you lol. think i'm gonna put you in my to-stab pile with palmar xP and maybe truffle nvm, though, cause I doubt most people actually have good reasons for their scumreads right now | ||
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I know you don't like reasons, but I really do need a why. Sell me prplhz. | ||
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You're an AFKing questionmark of blah xP | ||
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and ill get back to you after flip, super xP why you'd expect me to have a read on you right now is amusing | ||
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and my fault lol go me? | ||
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that said...suuuuuper I think you've just made my scum list congrats | ||
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On March 04 2015 08:08 Superbia wrote: Pretty much. I honestly think this game is pretty near solved, tbh. I don't think slam is ever mafia here. I think RSO is probably mafia from that vote. I think there's 2/3 in that list, probably 1 in MM/Onegu/Lurker or some shit. And another completely dumbass thought. Mafia!rsoul was on town!slam and decided to switch to town!prplhz and get him lynched last minute cause that's so what scumlets do. If/when slam flips scum, then you've got a case dumbass xP | ||
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you're pulling this out of your ass, aren't you? lol it's a nice try, though, I'll give you that | ||
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Not looking back at the votes, but MM and Super seem most likely -rolls around the thread- MM because he promised to sheep Robik, then didn't when the vote was on slam, which is interesting. And you because I think Palmar believed his lynch, but you're shit this game. | ||
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Alakaslam, Superbia, MM And slam...dude, if you're town please play, cause otherwise you'll send us all down the wrong path. And by "us all" I mean mostly "me" but whatevs. | ||
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On March 04 2015 08:47 Snickers wrote: If there is a vig shoot slam or else town is going to waste tomorrow away. You think slam's town? Why? | ||
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I mean, seriously, your point holds water superficially, but that's all. If you genuinely think that slam is town you should be convincing misguided townies with your all-superior knowledge, shouldn't you? and if you don't, it's a weird post talking about wasted days to make | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:24 ritoky wrote: still upset. ugh, there's probably 1 between rsoul and superbia. rsoul why did you switch and then make this stupid post about regretting it and how you thought slam was mafia afterwards? why the hell would you switch if you felt that way? -shrugs- I thought slam was scum and it was possible that prplhz was scum as well? My reads have been trash a lot, and I know that Palmar is supposed to be able to read prp very well, so that played into it a little, too. As for the last reason, y'all are gonna call me crazy for it, but I thought it might help eliminate my paranoia on Super if I knew for sure the alignment of the lynch he was on. In the end, I thought the benefits outweighed the risks of making the change. | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:45 Superbia wrote: Interestingly, you never mentioned MM at all during the thread. The fact that you're not conflicted on someone like robik is mind boggling if you're town. But you're not. Interaction between rso and ritoky suggests mafia distancing or one of them being town. Fact that it took a while for them to start "fighting" post-lynch may indicate QT. Idiot -_- obviously this all hinges on Slam being scum, and quite obviously if Slam is scum MM is way more suspicious on than Robik who...voted for scum. Like, I have a hard time believing you're this stupid. You asked for a scumteam if Slam was scum then pretend this list was anything else? lol wow | ||
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On March 04 2015 12:52 Superbia wrote: Which is your world. That's why it doesn't make any sense. Also Robik voted for prp. ah fuck -_- then I'm just an idiot (you still asked who was scum if slam was; stop playing dumb on that count) | ||
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On March 04 2015 13:02 Superbia wrote: Like here's what you're believing: - Mafia slam did not vote to save himself. EITHER: - Mafia was willing to bus slam d1. - OR mafia switched to prp wagon to save slam. The first makes zero sense because the scumreads on Slam were weak as fuck. Like Ritoky had essentially 0 reads. His reason for voting slam was "because he looked as his filter and was like 'is this all?'". REALLY?? The second doesn't line up with a mafia agenda because why the fuck would slam leave it to his mafia partners to save him when he could've done that himself by voting on prp. Literally the dumbest thing ever which reveals intermafia connections. NOT ONLY THAT. Most of the votes on slam were incredibly town. You were asked to point out two of the mafia on prp. You pointed out me and MM. You completely neglected Snickers for no good reason. Just checked your filter. You were very iffy on snickers earlier during the day. That completely evaporated after trfl tried to push on him for absolutely. Moreover, the fact that there was no doubt from you on robik or snickers, people voting on prp and off slam (mafia in your world) is ridiculous. Vigi, I've done your work. Easy hit. Eh, got off it. You may be right on slam, I dunnae. But if you're right that he's town the whole thing's a mess anyway and none of your points are valid. Being iffy on Snickers means nothing. You should be able to figure that one out without a response wonder boy. As for robik, I got that mixed up. Now you can choose not to believe it, which I'm sure you will, but there's really no good reason for me to behave as I did as scum unless slam is scum, which you yourself say you don't believe. So fuck off. | ||
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my desire to play this game is tanking fast, and he's a big part of it lol >< I almost wouldn't even care if he flipped town. almost. actually, if he's town, he's the biggest asshole in this game | ||
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On March 04 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote: you do realize that there was 0 opportunity to save slam until superbia moved his vote like 2 mins before the deadline, then you did and he was saved. so uhhhh it isn't that unreasonable of a play for mafia to make. eh I guess you're right about that. it's still a stupid-ass way to play when I was pushing his wagon more than anyone, but if y'all think i'm that much of an idiot, I guess I can't blame you. i'm kind of sick of this game as it is cause town can't be assed to play. case and point: at least half the player base looks like scum to me -_- and if anyone can argue otherwise they're liars | ||
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Seriously, I'm having trouble finding towny people in this game. ritoky may be my only solid townread -_- so I definitely need to look things over. Slam and Super are still my gut reactions. Even if it isn't crazy to scumread me for my EoD switch (and I still think anyone doing that is basically calling me a moron lol but that's okay cause switching as town wasn't exactly brilliant either) Super's reasons for scumreading me are so shit they're ridiculous. Like...slam is town but I still switched from him to hammer prp? As for the third...who the hell knows. Could be robik/palmar/any of the lurkers -_- Oh, plus this call for a vig shot on me instead of on slam is ludicrous. If slam's town he needs to be shot just cause we probably will waste a day on him. And again, if you think slam is town here, thinking I'm scum is just...stupid. Snickers I'm putting off reading till Day 2 That was longer than I expected. | ||
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Super. Suuuuper. Hanging out like a shadow until it gets late, then swooping in. I know that he can be highly effective as town, which he clearly hasn't been. But his reasoning for scumreading me is complete shit. Why is it shit might you ask? Because if Slam is town like Super claims, then I have no reason whatsoever as scum to switch and hammer another wagon. I could easily say, but I was positive slam was scum! and who could contradict me? Like, if anyone wants to argue that I was trying to hammer prp so that we could mislynch Slam tomorrow with a straight face...like prp couldn't be lynched tomorrow...lol. So why try to scumread me while townreading Slam at the same time? Cause I'm not an easy lynch regardless of alignment. Objectively not an easy lynch. So if he tries to say we're both scum, then he has to lynch Slam if (and I'm more inclined to say when here) the wagon on me doesn't form. Slam is still boring. Ridiculously. Boring. I absolutely love playing with Slam normally. It's meta. It's tone. I know I didn't catch him last time and he wasn't really interesting then, either, but now I'm positive that this is a good way to read him. So silence you naysayers! Look at his filter and tell me he's done a single thing to actually contribute to this game. A single. Thing. Then tell me how this game doesn't need a push from our favorite Slam the Man to get things going. Pile of stinky, poisonous, anti-town sludge, this thread. I want to lynch Palmar. I'm least sure on him. But I want to lynch him so bad. His reads aren't strong but he isn't sheeping a townread, which is something he prides himself on, the ability to sheep effectively. His post before flip reads entirely like he knew what was going to happen when I switched my vote. And frankly, he is one of the biggest contributors to shitting up the thread. It's not even trolling at this point. It's flat-out shitting it up. He may not always be the most clear in his reads, but I can usually at least half-follow where he's taking the thread. Plus his read list is literally based on the alphabet lol and has exactly the appropriate number of scum. Convenient. Beyond that, ritoky is still a strong townread for me. The accusation against him is actually bogus, for exactly the reasons he stated. Damdred and trfel look okay to me. Much as I want to kick Damdy for scumming me he probably has a right to lol. Trfel...I dunnae, the tunnel on Snickers is interesting. He both held his ground for quite awhile, but also was willing to let it go. Like, holding to it against all reason or giving in too early might seem scummy to me, but that exact combination has me leaning town. If Slam isn't scum my reads kind of fall apart and y'all should probably just ignore me if I'm not around anymore, but providing he is actually scum and I'm wrong on Palmar (Super I'm pretty sure I'm right on even if Slam isn't scum, just cause his reasoning is such shit, and it's not just OMGUS) I'd probably look to Robik first. He's not being his screamy overbearing self. Less sure on that cause he wasn't really last game, either, though. Snickers if he's alive Day 2 and doesn't start bleeding town is also one of the thread shitter-uppers and not a bad lynch after Robik. I'm more on the same page with him, though, so I'd see that more as a last resort. | ||
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1. Why the fuck was slam "townie" to you? And no bullshit about voting to save himself. Someone from the Slam lynch had to move. 2. How the hell does it make more sense for me to switch wagons last fucking minute if both were town than it does if Slam was scum? Like I'd still call y'all idiots for thinking I'd hard-buss a scum patner all day and then switch, but at least it makes an iota more sense. Truffle, if you're really the vig man, lol my hero >< And Palmar...really curious why you told me to shut up, but regardless...next time you have so little motivation that you can't be assed to play as town, don't confirm. That's all the ill I'm going to speak of the dead >< Snickers, Damdred, if you both are town can you please stop with the damn shit fights it's fucking irritating. This thread is toxic enough without such pointless arguments. That's my rant for the day >< hopefully it's over. Someone seriously needs to point out a good reason for me to townread super before this tunnel gets locked in stone cause I want his head really badly right now >< and I'm probably not objective but frankly can't be bothered to give a shit | ||
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Do you have anything to contribute? Give me a reason to think you're town other than Robik...caring less and less about that one as time goes on. | ||
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On March 05 2015 10:13 Damdred wrote: Rsoultin in the likelihood of a big being in game and people saying shoot slam what's scum motivation to hard defend slam in that situation? And thoughts on robik like what I posted etc I already said if Palmar's town Robik is probably scum. I mean...big reads post no one read? lol He's not acting like Robik to me this game. No anger. No drive. Hell, I'm acting more like robik than robik and that's scary >< Damdred, where does it say in the OP that there is definitely a vig in this game? I personally know that HTS really likes vigilantes in her games, and maybe others do, too, but you're assuming that mafia knew there was a vig which is completely flawed logic. I mean, if that is literally the only reason you're townreading Super, and you're both town, you should go sit in the dunce corner for those two horrific townreads on Slam and Super. | ||
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On March 05 2015 10:24 Damdred wrote: Actually no rs, why would Scum hard defend Scum when their is a distinct possibility of a vig in the setup. Slam is dead in the water, tell me Scum motivation behind the hard defend Lol, show me the hard defense. He spent more time trying to paint me scum and get me "shot" than he did trying to defend slam. In fact, your reasoning was almost equally as shitty as his. "I don't think you're scum for your vote, Rsoul" no "I think you're scum because of your reads" Well lol, if this damn town played like a town should I wouldn't have to resort to wild-ass lynch switches just to get reads on people >< I DID IT TO TRY TO READ SUPER/PALMAR Lo and behold, not only was super on town instead of scum, but he tried to say a SCUM PLAYER is going to SWITCH FROM TOWN TO HAMMER TOWN in the LAST TWO MINUTES of a lynch. That is like the most god-awful read on the planet >< Maybe he has some startling revelation for how that makes a smidge of sense, but it sure as hell looks to me like he was trying to line up a mislynch and indirectly protect his scumbuddy I know I'm biased, but if you want to give me a good reason, it had better be better than that >< | ||
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Eh, WIFOM, Snickers. I'd say it confirms my Robik read, but you could argue just as easily that it was for the ritoky read or just to make it look like either of them were scum. Or me, I guess, lol >< | ||
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I'll listen to ritoky/trfel. The rest of you can take a hike or bleed town -_- your choice Snickers, if you don't fucking come up with something actually helpful at some point, I'm going to egg Trfel on. No shit. | ||
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I don't need to bleed town. I am town. And obviously so at that. I'm pissed at all the stupid I've been reading in this thread, pissed that town is playing like shit...I have literally never played in a worse thread for town ever and if I had less integrity I would have spammed myself to a modkill and said fuck this town. | ||
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talk to me, people.  see...smiling face of awesome and not gonna call anyone an idiot for at least...the next 3 hours before bed lol >< my vote switch was moronic so yeah i'm being a hypocritescumreads other than robik/superbia...go ^^ I need something else to look at and other people's thoughts | ||
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I dislike this limiting options thing, especially when it encourages people not to look at you. And you really have no right to say anything to damdred when you were saying I chose to call attention to myself in the most moronic way possible by switching from one town wagon to another as scum. Talk about zero sense. | ||
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On March 05 2015 12:46 Superbia wrote: I'm not sure on any of the people you mentioned. But like I said before, I refuse to play a game of mafia as town where the mafia team literally afks or does nothing. The entire team. I'm not assuming there's no mafia on prp. I'm literally calling robik mafia. So what you're trying to say is that there should be an active mafia in there somewhere? That's fair. I mean...RNG is RNG and some of these players don't play much regardless (as I understand) but you'd think there'd be some sort of counter push to a lynch on scum. TBF slam wasn't just inactive, but I'm not going to go into the meta again. Like there really wasn't a lot of difference between this game and the last one he rolled scum in. | ||
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On March 05 2015 12:54 Superbia wrote: Meh. Nvm. I thought I might've had a hard town-read on you for being genuinely bitter. Lol, I'm trying not to be a complete tunneled ass. Read Student V and you'll see why. Or Damdred can just tell you. Really I could care less what you think, anyway, cause if you're town your estimation in my eyes has plummeted significantly. You were much more interesting and better the last two games I played with you. | ||
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On March 05 2015 14:36 Onegu wrote: Vote analysis, plus lack of activity. I feel this game is like Linux mafia where the team was lazy and inexperienced, also slam was on that team also That tells me why you think he's scum, but not why you think he's the best lynch? Can you walk me through your vote analysis kinda like Damdred did so that I can understand your PoE? | ||
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On March 05 2015 15:05 Onegu wrote: Rsoultin did you get what I was trying to tell you? I did...and I can even kinda understand the logic, except it doesn't really seem to take into account most of the players' play except maybe ritoky's and mine? Like I agree that a double-buss is a weird pay for Slam and ritoky to make together as scum, and ritoky did actually scumread slam before he voted him...not as strongly as I'd like but eh. So...how does the late formation of the wagon on prplhz play into your analysis? Palmar and Super both didn't vote until later, and then of course my last second vote. Knowing that Palmar was town...I don't think the timing rules out Super as possible scum. | ||
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You think scum is probably between Snickers, MM and Oats, and your reason for choosing MM is he's not talking but probably won't be modkilled. Lol...eh, I can buy it to an extent, and it may well be that simple, but to me it seems weird that the entire scumteam is inactive. I'd have to agree with Super on that one; probably one of the active players is scum. | ||
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Your presence in the thread wasn't as strong as I remembered it, but it got better. Got a problem with that? Like, seriously, we can pretend I'm a viable lynch here but I'm really not. You're basically saying I have the IQ of a Brussels sprout if you're calling me scum -shrugs- I expect you to work with me after work to get this lynch settled, and have some ideas of your own. If you're getting reads right now that's fine but at some point it's time to take a shit or get off the pot. | ||
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damdred im reading townie. could be wrong, but his fluidity this game is making me think town since hes reacting to the more important things going on in the thread and his reads are changing with new information. i dont think he could emulate that easily as scum. | ||
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But keep in mind the context. I was certain Slam was scum. Mostly. Not quite as certain as I presented it in thread, but he was definitely my strongest scumread and by far my strongest read in the thread, with the townread on ritoky being the second. And...I pretty much had no other strong reads. I kept complaining that the thread was toxic, because it was, and I was sick and tired of town not acting like town, and possible town (Palmar) contributing to the mess. I also personally hate the too scummy to be scum reason to townread people which Palmar definitely fell under. So Super came into the thread, made some convenient placeholder comments, then suddenly changed over. No, I was not bullied off a strong scumread. I deliberately chose to vote for a null read over a scum read to get reads on the players on the prp wagon, most specifically Super, and yeah it's a weird way to think but made perfect sense to me in the context that I was having trouble getting reads on players. Note how he demanded for a read on him one way or another before I switched, and my response to him? I do strongly suspect that Super is scum, in part for his terrible logic night 1 to be sure, but also his chaotic responses in general. He contradicted himself a ridiculous amount of times after flip. More on that in another post. | ||
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- His reason for scumming prp has nothing to do with either Slam or prp pre-flip. He tries to cast doubt on me (leading the slam wagon) and switch to ritoky (Palmar's read) further distancing himself from a mislynch by saying his only real read is towning Snickers (a reason for staying on prp?) - Demands a read on him when he's already admitted to no reads of his own and pushes even when I say he's null (with style of course cause I have tons of style )- The town to town last second hammer argument has already been beaten to death. My point here is less that it's clearly horrendous logic, and more pointing to what it achieves: a townread on Slam. If he scums slam and can't get me lynched, he has to be willing to lynch slam as mafia...or find a damn good reason not to. - He asked me for the other members of the scum team with Slam, then proceeded to try to tear it apart on the basis that...Slam isn't scum. That's ridiculous. - The whole bussing/non-bussing angle. He wants to push the idea that scum bussed while at the same time scumreading Robik for...nothing? Like I'm really confused here. He goes on about how it's terrible to buss but this is what scum did, throws a bunch of accusation's ritoky's way and barely mentions robik. Robik, robik, robik with no stated reason for scumming him, but his scumread gravitates more toward robik as more players in-thread suspect him, which is interesting. Most everything else has been brought up by someone already. - | ||
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On March 06 2015 07:41 IAmRobik wrote: Because you're mid-questioning him. Why are you voting him while you're waiting for him to answer you, unless you don't care what the answer is..... I'm capable of changing a vote, Robik. His reason for voting you seemed made-up. Try asking next time. It gets you further. So that was a response to Palmar's alphabet lynch list, Super? Okay...I guess I can see that, except that your first impulse was to scumread me after the flip and you'd been consistently scumreading ritoky. But I guess I can see that thought coming from Palmar's post. So where are you at now then? Who should I think is more scum than you? | ||
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Scumming, rather -_- Btw, at some point soon I'm gonna drop out of thread for a bit because I have a tendency to burn through posts, and can't keep up this conversation forever. Quite simply, Super, I don't understand your play this game. I don't understand your thought process. Maybe if you continue pushing it, and you're actually town, it'll click. I'm actually specifically trying to be more open-minded about you because I'm predisposed not to be, so that works in your favor here. | ||
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I can see scum theoretically being possible on the Slam train at EoD. However I don't think it's likely that no scum is on the prp train and prp was still lynched. Onegu and ritoky both pushed that Slam read that day. Not super hard, granted, but they both pushed it early with pretty strong language. The main thing against ritoky is just how long he took to actually vote Slam. Can you point out what I'm missing? | ||
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On March 07 2015 08:00 Half the Sky wrote: Day 2 Vote Count Superbia (6): Trfel, ritoky, rsoultin, Snickers, IAmRobik (3): MysteryMeat1 (1): Damdred (0): As it currently stands, Superbia is slated to be deported. The voting thread is located here. Countdown: ^THIS IS WHY I SAID NO WAY IN HELL WAS ANYONE BUT SUPER GETTING LYNCHED. mathematically, with the people in thread, it was not going to happen -_- how hard is this concept to grasp? people can't get off the damn pot even though they keep saying super looks town till 5 mins before, and damdy makes his "amazing save"? he may be town here, I know that, but that doesn't change that these shenanigans were not going to happen in time. the people weren't here to make it happen lol and apparently robik switched right back to super a minute later and is still trying to claim credit >< blah. I didn't notice that before...so even more impossible | ||
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and stop calling me he already -_- I already said I got onegu and mm confused robik switched at 58 and switched back at 59. clearly he was so committed. and you with your brilliant rsoul/onegu theory...so how does me not switching to mm play into that one, hm? you sat there waffling for half a damn hour and chose 5 mins till to switch. robik said he didn't want to. lord knows why rit vanished | ||
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lol >< seriously. my vote would have done nothing. I was watching the thread, too. Unless you think I'm scum with MM and limit the shenanigans to switching to MM...you're scumreading me for completely illogical reasons, Damdred. And frankly I can't be assed to defend myself right now because I have better things to do, and this won't catch scum. Newsflash: I'm not scum, you twits. If I'm scum this game I'm playing the worst scum game ever, in arguably one of the best games for scum ever because of the shit level of town play going on in this game. | ||
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On March 07 2015 09:44 rsoultin wrote: bs damdred. 5 mins before. but regardless its tinfoil for a reason and i got oneg confused with mm as it is. the point is there was no way in hell anyone but super was getting lynched. I was on my damn phone trying to keep up, Damdred. Obviously that statement means it should have been ONEGU and not MM... Now I'm done. And if you ... gah I want to call you guys names but I'm trying not to be an asshat ... want to keep on twisting my words and taking things out of context, go right ahead. | ||
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clear something up for me in your initial post, were you saying that we should lynch kelsier, or that we shouldn't based on what FF knew? | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:27 Snickers wrote: Why are we not lynching kelsier. Also ff knows about this. Yup, this post here. | ||
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Secondly, I think the key to this game right now is getting reads on the lynchbait (lurkers, policy lynches) because we’ve got too many: To that end, Oatsmaster is town precisely because he was AFK during the Slam almost-lynch. A profile check shows that this lack of activity was thread-specific. If he’s mafia he should be bussing or jumping on another wagon. That he didn’t care means he’s likely not scum here. The Robik push was actually pretty good, too, with the way Robik has been playing this game, and he’s been in the thread scumhunting both nights. I’m comfortable putting him as solid town. That leaves the more difficult trifecta of MM/Onegu/Snickers. MM has a super clean filter. It’s kind of startling how clean it is, even. Clear thought process with prp’s overreaction to a joke, the pressure vote on oats followed by consolidation on to previously stated scumread prp, not having a good read on slam…lol it’s not like slam’s easy to read really especially if you haven’t played with him much, and regardless of alignment that AFK excuse isn’t one you make up. Too unusual xP So. I’m going to put him at a town lean here. Not as solid as Oats, but he feels townie to me. Snickers…okay, I’m just gonna say it. I have no good specific reason to think he’s town here and yet I still do. Call it a soul read or a mindmeld or something…but he and oats both have been saying things I’ve been thinking (him more than oats) throughout the game. Long-ass filter, interesting comments sprinkled in with the trolling, a case tonight when there was no need for him to put that work in. This doesn’t make him 100% town but I can’t shake the feeling that he’s not scum here. That leaves Onegu. I had a townread on him earlier that I think was preemptive. I still find it strange that his entire filter Day 1 was on Slam if he’s scum. Like, the only thing that makes sense to me then is that scum was bussing Slam from the beginning, or that the wagon took off too quickly and he didn’t feel he could move his vote without looking suspicious. Simplest answer is scum bussed slam or Onegu is town. Classic low-hanging fruit approach to Day 2, though. MM, Oats and Snickers…lol. Note how I mentioned trying to get reads on the lynchbait? The vote onto Super was bad, too, when he had MM as a stronger scumread, but I’m not sure how that makes sense as a scum move unless Robik is scum. Null leaning scum. Would lynch, and the scummiest of the four. TLDR; Town Oats – vote Day 1, follow-up on Robik Snickers – mindmeld, night work Town Lean MM1 – clear thought progression Scum lean Onegu – lynchbait scumreads, EoD2 vote | ||
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I'm just gonna remove ritoky from consideration right now. His voting has looked bad, between piling on Slam last second and not moving EoD2, but I just can't get past all the work he's put in in between. I go into his filter looking for scum and can't find anything but an awkward start. You're town to me, ritoky. And if you end up being scum, this was an excellent game of yours and I'm not sure why you'd try so hard when getting mislynches should be pretty easy here for scum lol. Robik On March 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote: Signup List 5 Trfel 6 prplhz 7 Onegu 8 Alakaslam 10 MysteryMeat1 11 Oatsmaster People I could lynch today. Trfel - weird content. I was able to clear in previous game. not able to this game Prplhz - why me? fry me Onegu - not sure why but would maybe lynch Slam - not sure why but would maybe lynch MM1 - don't want to lynch but lack of content is disturbing Oats - i might just be bitter cause he was a meanie to me last game and tried tunneling me Low-hanging fruit + maybe would lynch Onegu(scummiest lurker)/Slam(scum) for...no reason? Weird as shit. His read on Snickers seems like TMI (objectively Snickers has looked more townie recently, and I never like the too scummy to be scum argument). The argument that he always NKs Snickers is not only WIFOM, but stupid if he's scum and gone on record saying Snickers is a PR. Palmar was scumreading him (along with ritoky, and I'm town and probably ritoky is) and looking like shit himself. I'm just not seeing any real scumhunting in his filter. He comes in when people start scumreading him, gives reads when asked, but where is the pressure? Also, lol at the pushing prp wagon claim. The hell he did. That's almost as funny as Onegu claiming he was the main force behind the slam lynch. Yup. His filter is like 60% defensive posts...80% by Day 2. I'm really happy with a Robik lynch. Sidenote: Damdred I'm having trouble reading. Gut says town. Filter says town. Little things bug me. The last minute switch, for one, and that it came after Onegu voted Super. Also having one scum on Slam and one on Prp seems strange to me. I mean, it probably happens, and could be explained by Onegu not being in-thread near EoD I guess, just seems like a general lack of commitment from the scum team. Damdred also falls in the category of doing an awful lot of work for a game where scum can easily coast, though. TLDR; I really think Robik and Onegu are the scum here. Questions about anything...I've got two posts left before EoN. So I probably will hold off until closer to the flip and address them all in one post, if there are any. Feel free to ask though ^^ | ||
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5 on Super 3 on robik 2 on MM The people potentially available to switch were: me (had already said I'd only switch to MM), ritoky (Super, MM or me were the people he was looking into Day 2), onegu (mm, oats, snickers, super)... So yes, if all three of us decided to switch to you in that last minute and a half when you were exposed, robik, you would have died. But it's a bit of a stretch to say that there was any reasonable expectation that this would actually happen. In fact, you switching back last second at all is a crazy level of paranoia, imo. Possibly even indicative of a guilty conscience. Meanwhile, you get the credit for being "willing" to lynch someone other than a mislynch, as demonstrated by your vote which you announced in thread...though you didn't seem terribly interested in broadcasting the fact that you were switching back to Super. There is certainly scum motivation for making a switch that minimally exposes you for a grand total of 90 seconds, especially when it detaches you from culpability of a mislynch. More to the point, you are still not trying to solve the game. If your innocence is supposedly so "obvious" now...where is the analysis to help town? - Onegu, oats asked you a question. Unlike me you actually have plenty of posts to engage. - Reserving last post for EoN | ||
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your "selfless" act isn't very selfless in the context of that lynch, now is it? how is it impossible for scum to switch from super to mm even if they're both town? switching back doesn't really mean anything other than just generally being odd to me, cause why would you switch back anyway if it was 6 seconds before EoD? actually...please explain your thought process there, cause if no one was switching to MM or switching at all I don't understand why you had to move your vote also, are you ever going to pick a scumread and actually push them? | ||
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On March 08 2015 14:07 Snickers wrote: So from glancing at robiks meta in that game and from what I remember this game. HE IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol in what way? xP I at least gave my admittedly superficial reason on ritoky ^^ | ||
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scum doesn't hard-buss scum all day just to switch to town in the last two minutes. there probably is 2 mafia in robik, snickers, oats and mm...but you really think oats is gonna sit out there on his lonesome while his scummate is voting prp to save slam? unlikely. just as it's unlikely that one scum is bussing while the other is on the counterwagon. unless you've got inactive scum and they're not coordinating at all, that leads to all the players on prp and mm was voting for robik day 2, so those two as a scum team makes no sense by poe that leaves snickers and mm or snickers and robik so unless onegu is fake-claiming, the lynch today should be snickers there, game solved, or at least day 3 lynch solved | ||
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On March 08 2015 15:48 Onegu wrote: Bout time you got to this conclusion, I've been saying it since day 2, yes my play hasn't been the greatest, that's what happens when you end up playing 3 games at the same time but my reads are usually good as town even if I don't have the best points or ways to convey it to the thread. Btw robik is most likely town. Oats is more likely to flip scum imo and just forgot to vote/ wasn't around for deadline. Still really believe it is snickers and mm1 as scumteam. Lol, I think the placement in the lynch train argument threw me off. That and I just have an allergy to going after only lynchbait since it always seems to turn out poorly for me >< except when I ignore it. Someone walk me through why everyone is townreading robik so I can get on the same page, cause I just expect more from him. Maybe I shouldn't, I don't know >< | ||
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On March 09 2015 01:19 IAmRobik wrote: So rsoul is now pushing the idea that I first killed palmar and then I killed the person who is defending me the most. Fucking genius Dude, my complaint against you is pretty clear; you're not in here leading the town or even being a strong participant in trying to solve this game. Maybe that's an unrealistic expectation for me to have. Maybe you're always this...inconsequential...in your town games, but less of stuff like this and more actual play, capisce? People are telling me you're town just cause you get mad. I'm a bit unwilling to think you're just a pile of screaming, vulgar dead weight. Give me a temperature check. Where you at in this game, hm? I'm not even sure who you think is scum at this point. | ||
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In your case, you have a strangely long filter for someone whose impact on this game has been minimal at best. I don't know for sure that you're scum, and i'm not going to call you anti-town because that descriptor has been used too often. Instead I will say that your behavior is divisive. You antagonized prp needlessly, focused on the color of a name in voting analysis instead of what the players were trying to bring to the board. I can't tell when you're joking/trolling or not, because if you're not some of the things you've done have been flat-out bad. There is nothing wrong with questioning Onegu. If Onegu is scum, his breadcrumbing was extensive, and the second blue role that we should have has unwisely chosen not to reveal despite his claim. The timing and the creativeness of his chosen saves also all lead to the idea that he is telling the truth, plus his attempts to get this game underway. You're flat-out attacking him for virtually no reason. I doubt anyone is taking his claim 100% seriously, but he is an un-CCd blue and there is no significant reason to doubt the veracity of his claim. You would better spend your energies focusing elsewhere, and yet you refuse. You refuse to give detailed reads. You refuse to say anything more than someone is scum. Essentially you have become a blight on this game, and though I've find some of your comments incisive, they aren't leading anywhere. If you're town you need to help us, but the longer this goes on the more I feel that your chosen focus is specifically to deny information, which comes from a scum mindset. You are convincing me that you're scum more and more. So...meh. | ||
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You've made too many promises (mostly unfulfilled) to actually bring something worthwhile to the table "tomorrow". You've played and read the game. Bring it now, let me determine if my vote is in a good place or not, but otherwise I will push for your lynch. Robik will have his own problems if he continues as he has, but you're the player that exists in almost every scum world I can think of. Give me a reason that someone is a better lynch. | ||
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Now. Who is the better lynch? My PoE is suboptimal for sure, but I'm done trying to piece reads together on nothing. You're the one up for lynch. You can do the work for once. Hell, you're probably better at it than me anyway xP I really don't give a shit about your sniping. At least I'm doing something. | ||
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TL Mafia typically has 2 power roles in a 13 man setup. Period. Done. Might be bad to assume that's the case here, but it's an assumption I'm willing to make and be wrong on. It's okay to consider everyone suspect, but this is the time to narrow down targets rather than widen the net. Stop trying to sell me paranoia that I already have more than an abundance of. MM, oats, robik. Who is most likely scum of those three, why, and why should I lynch the one you choose over you? I'm not discussing Onegu with you today unless there's a CC. | ||
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I'm willing to lynch Robik here. Snickers, you going to lynch him with me? | ||
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Yo, Truffle, let's lynch Robik, dude. Not caring about the game except when you're up for lynch is pretty fucking damning...probably more so than any other accusation that can be made against any other player in this thread. Lots of us aren't playing terribly well, but he's the guy with the thumb up his ass. Onegu, man...just trust me here. Anyone can sit there and CAPSLOCK curses and flail about. Anyone can say "I'm town because I'm town". The anger isn't real here. He was CAPSLOCKING at me, I CAPSLOCKED back and then lolled at him, and no response. The guy's faking. More importantly, he doesn't play except when he's being voted. His vote switch Day 2 was laughable. The only read he actually made was he thought Super was town but didn't want to be lynched so didn't want to switch votes. | ||
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No, not doing anything doesn't necessarily make you scum, you're right. Who is 100% scum here? We've already discussed the uselessness of my changing my vote Day 2. I'm not going to go into it again. Now....other than whining, what you got? | ||
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You keep on trying to scumread me then backing off. What gives?Bussing is not an uncommon tactic in Mafia. I know that you're well aware of that. | ||
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I may lynch MM...I've already stated that I think the two mafia are between the three of you. And you don't have to apologize. I'm not offended by hissy fits lol. | ||
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I've put men there before. Goooood niiiiiiight. | ||
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Prove to me you can't get "mad" as scum and I'll lay off you. | ||
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and equally capable of OMGUSing. So I stand by my read on you. Doing jack shit = probably scum. And now I'm going to bed. | ||
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-flicks- dude, why are you staying up to 3 if all you're staying up for is to argue stupid shit? I mean, seriously lol do you think screaming at me, cursing and flinging insults or ultimatums is an effective defense when what I'm charging you with is being useless? xP | ||
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Well, for the record, I'm not offended at all by him if that has any bearing on such decisions xP This idea he has that being an unproductive pile of dead weight is an effective way to play this game (as town or scum, but especially as town) is stupid lol | ||
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I'm just taking advantage of your inability to control your own temper. And yeah part of me continued throwing shit at you because you're just an asshat to play with. So you think Snickers actually could be town? Unless I'm wrong on Oats, I think the game is solved, thanks to...well, you I guess xP | ||
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good show | ||
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Regardless, it hardly matters now. Frankly, whatever small bit of remorse I might have is generally overshadowed by the fact that he's fully capable of controlling himself and chooses not to. He can blame things on the playerbase if he wants to, quit the site, whatever, but in the end it's his own inability to control his own behavior that keeps kicking him in the ass. | ||
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snickers should be scum here but again with the no resistance...this game is frustrating lol >< | ||
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I think they're both scum is so difficult to understand? I really don't care how many question marks or capslocks you use, rit | ||
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yolo | ||
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so here's the real question...is it really as simple as mm/oats...or has rit blindsided us? | ||
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no need to scream, rit. if you're scum you've won; I've no desire to lynch you over mm and oats | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:13 ritoky wrote: that's cool that you seem content with losing. I am not. if you're my other townie amongst the 4 of us then you need to get in my backpack. pointless statement | ||
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ritoky, mm and oats so lol, same shit ass logic that got me in trouble last time, but ritoky and mm seem like an unlikely scum pair, which makes me just want to lynch oats and worry about mm and ritoky later...in part because I really don't care to read the thread right now and will be busy the rest of the week with leaving the military/finishing my college final I didn't think ritoky was scum, honestly. Now I'm not so sure. Some of his play just bugs me. This run-off he created between myself and MM1, for example, that he stated earlier while ruling out oats. I ruled out oats, too, but I mentioned my reasons why being it seemed odd that he did nothing with a scummate on the block. ritoky on the other hand...just seemed to ignore him. Only now he's saying MM1 is scum because he wasn't pushing oats...well, there was also Snickers, wasn't there? Plus the snipe at me when I basically said MM1 and Oats would be the lynches cause I'd vote them before ritoky. He then accuses me of not trying to solve the game? In his world if he's town, I literally only have two correct options with the two Un-CCd blues: MM1 and Oats. Like, as either town or scum, those are the only ones left. Is he saying that I should be considering him (while practically declaring himself obvious town in the same breath) as scum or I'm not trying to win? Dude, I don't know what your deal is, but good job making me doubt your alignment if you're town -_- So that's why I want an Oats lynch. In my world...Oats is part of both scum teams. Would rather approach the ritoky problem later, to be honest, though if I had to guess right now MM1 and Oats would be my scum team. Probably need to actually attempt an in-depth look at meta for ritoky...and I'm not looking forward to it -_- nor do I have the time for it right now. | ||
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we should filter-dive truffle most of his filter is on this page lololol | ||
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i like to die in style! | ||
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##Vote Truffle how rude...now isn't that a jarjar line? >> meh I've read rit's filter like 20ish times this game. doubt anything new and horrendous jumps out at me that is going to make me want to lynch him over oats and mm1 -shrugs- | ||
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maybe i'm right because you're just pretending? | ||
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SCUMSLIP Truffle is >> << a communist! | ||
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OFF WITH HIS HEAD! | ||
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when you finish with my filter and realize that I could be with mm1 and oats xP cause you have yet to realize that pretty much anything theoretically could be possible, pick one of them to vote and i'll vote with you. plzthx I really don't actually care at this point. oats is better for if you're scum, but frankly...if you're scum I'm probably not going to catch you so my give a shits are at like 0 right now. oats/mm1 scumteam for the win and hopefully a concession once you stop waffling all over the place, which would be hella nice cause I'm really sick and tired of this game -_- | ||
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i'm the most entertaining person ALIVE ...lol | ||
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and the paranoid world, ritoky wanting to vote the player i'm sure he couldn't be scum with xP but to be frank poison game needs to end mm1 you said you could convince me. i won't be around a ton today but i will check the thread here just for you so that we can thoroughly blame me if we lose xP ##vote: MM1 great game rit if you're scum | ||
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-snugs-? | ||
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totally dropped the ball not putting the time in/not insisting on oats but in all honesty I don't know that it would have made a difference here :/ | ||
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yeah I suck mrt | ||
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maybe cause I kept trying to find scum in your filter but kept failing lol like your behavior around EoD was scummy but that was like hi kettle, i'm pot I kinda stopped playing after the robik ban I don't know why the argument effected me so relatively little, but the ban made me not want to play, but there it is -_- | ||
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probably me I was so frustrated with this game >< I do not understand people signing up for a game and then not playing. I just don't i'm not blaming you for the ban hts. don't misunderstand me. doesn't make it less depressing | ||
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the super lynch was still bad though. even if mm was town, had he still been in we might have gotten somewhere, and that is partially my fault (certainly starting the initial train was ><)...though I don't see ritoky actually making the voteswitch there xP | ||
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thanks hts. i don't think the post restriction was the problem...the ppl not playing were well below the threshold night could do with another page though imo i kept running out there | ||
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i totes would have, and i ran out early both times ;o; not n3 though that was when i just gave up ^^; | ||
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i'm sorry but if you're not leading or attempting to lead town I don't think that you can really complain about town leadership not trying to be bitchy, but I'm not accepting criticism from you, palmar, robik (who is not here), onegu, MM1, slam or bats super at least tried, and damdred had a good game ^^ | ||
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i'm going to ignore you which actually is not something that I've done with literally any other player on this site snickers that probably means nothing to you and that's okay but your attitude is trash ^^ enjoy your weekend | ||
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