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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 04:00 GMT
#898
On March 02 2015 09:27 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm surprised this thread is necessary

User was temp banned for this post.


Why are we not lynching kelsier.

Also ff knows about this.


Yup, this post here.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 04:02 GMT
#900
lol >< so you were saying we should lynch him then?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 04:05 GMT
#902
I thought you flipped your words around, since obviously a site ban is a bad reason to lynch anyone -shrugs- I stand corrected, though. You want to policy lynch for no apparent reason.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 04:10 GMT
#904
my first impulse was damdred/onegu for the timing on that it was just really convenient that the thumb only came out of the ass after onegu voted

but I haven't reread filters yet, oats
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 18:37 GMT
#927
Meh, so first off, apologies for my general suckage this game. Not that I don’t have a bad track record at finding scum anyway, but it irritates me more in games where I have higher influence -_-
Secondly, I think the key to this game right now is getting reads on the lynchbait (lurkers, policy lynches) because we’ve got too many:
To that end, Oatsmaster is town precisely because he was AFK during the Slam almost-lynch. A profile check shows that this lack of activity was thread-specific. If he’s mafia he should be bussing or jumping on another wagon. That he didn’t care means he’s likely not scum here. The Robik push was actually pretty good, too, with the way Robik has been playing this game, and he’s been in the thread scumhunting both nights. I’m comfortable putting him as solid town.
That leaves the more difficult trifecta of MM/Onegu/Snickers.
MM has a super clean filter. It’s kind of startling how clean it is, even. Clear thought process with prp’s overreaction to a joke, the pressure vote on oats followed by consolidation on to previously stated scumread prp, not having a good read on slam…lol it’s not like slam’s easy to read really especially if you haven’t played with him much, and regardless of alignment that AFK excuse isn’t one you make up. Too unusual xP So. I’m going to put him at a town lean here. Not as solid as Oats, but he feels townie to me.
Snickers…okay, I’m just gonna say it. I have no good specific reason to think he’s town here and yet I still do. Call it a soul read or a mindmeld or something…but he and oats both have been saying things I’ve been thinking (him more than oats) throughout the game. Long-ass filter, interesting comments sprinkled in with the trolling, a case tonight when there was no need for him to put that work in. This doesn’t make him 100% town but I can’t shake the feeling that he’s not scum here.
That leaves Onegu. I had a townread on him earlier that I think was preemptive. I still find it strange that his entire filter Day 1 was on Slam if he’s scum. Like, the only thing that makes sense to me then is that scum was bussing Slam from the beginning, or that the wagon took off too quickly and he didn’t feel he could move his vote without looking suspicious. Simplest answer is scum bussed slam or Onegu is town. Classic low-hanging fruit approach to Day 2, though. MM, Oats and Snickers…lol. Note how I mentioned trying to get reads on the lynchbait? The vote onto Super was bad, too, when he had MM as a stronger scumread, but I’m not sure how that makes sense as a scum move unless Robik is scum. Null leaning scum. Would lynch, and the scummiest of the four.
TLDR;

Town
Oats – vote Day 1, follow-up on Robik
Snickers – mindmeld, night work

Town Lean
MM1 – clear thought progression

Scum lean
Onegu – lynchbait scumreads, EoD2 vote
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 19:04 GMT
#928
Which leaves Trfel, Robik, Ritoky and Damdred

I'm just gonna remove ritoky from consideration right now. His voting has looked bad, between piling on Slam last second and not moving EoD2, but I just can't get past all the work he's put in in between. I go into his filter looking for scum and can't find anything but an awkward start. You're town to me, ritoky. And if you end up being scum, this was an excellent game of yours and I'm not sure why you'd try so hard when getting mislynches should be pretty easy here for scum lol.

Robik

On March 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Signup List
5 Trfel
6 prplhz
7 Onegu
8 Alakaslam
10 MysteryMeat1
11 Oatsmaster

People I could lynch today.

Trfel - weird content. I was able to clear in previous game. not able to this game
Prplhz - why me? fry me
Onegu - not sure why but would maybe lynch
Slam - not sure why but would maybe lynch

MM1 - don't want to lynch but lack of content is disturbing
Oats - i might just be bitter cause he was a meanie to me last game and tried tunneling me


Low-hanging fruit + maybe would lynch Onegu(scummiest lurker)/Slam(scum) for...no reason? Weird as shit.

His read on Snickers seems like TMI (objectively Snickers has looked more townie recently, and I never like the too scummy to be scum argument).

The argument that he always NKs Snickers is not only WIFOM, but stupid if he's scum and gone on record saying Snickers is a PR. Palmar was scumreading him (along with ritoky, and I'm town and probably ritoky is) and looking like shit himself.

I'm just not seeing any real scumhunting in his filter. He comes in when people start scumreading him, gives reads when asked, but where is the pressure? Also, lol at the pushing prp wagon claim. The hell he did. That's almost as funny as Onegu claiming he was the main force behind the slam lynch. Yup. His filter is like 60% defensive posts...80% by Day 2. I'm really happy with a Robik lynch.

Sidenote:
Damdred I'm having trouble reading. Gut says town. Filter says town. Little things bug me. The last minute switch, for one, and that it came after Onegu voted Super. Also having one scum on Slam and one on Prp seems strange to me. I mean, it probably happens, and could be explained by Onegu not being in-thread near EoD I guess, just seems like a general lack of commitment from the scum team. Damdred also falls in the category of doing an awful lot of work for a game where scum can easily coast, though.

TLDR; I really think Robik and Onegu are the scum here. Questions about anything...I've got two posts left before EoN. So I probably will hold off until closer to the flip and address them all in one post, if there are any. Feel free to ask though ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#934
Let's take a look at the votes again, shall we?

5 on Super
3 on robik
2 on MM

The people potentially available to switch were: me (had already said I'd only switch to MM), ritoky (Super, MM or me were the people he was looking into Day 2), onegu (mm, oats, snickers, super)...

So yes, if all three of us decided to switch to you in that last minute and a half when you were exposed, robik, you would have died. But it's a bit of a stretch to say that there was any reasonable expectation that this would actually happen.

In fact, you switching back last second at all is a crazy level of paranoia, imo. Possibly even indicative of a guilty conscience. Meanwhile, you get the credit for being "willing" to lynch someone other than a mislynch, as demonstrated by your vote which you announced in thread...though you didn't seem terribly interested in broadcasting the fact that you were switching back to Super. There is certainly scum motivation for making a switch that minimally exposes you for a grand total of 90 seconds, especially when it detaches you from culpability of a mislynch.

More to the point, you are still not trying to solve the game. If your innocence is supposedly so "obvious" now...where is the analysis to help town?

-

Onegu, oats asked you a question. Unlike me you actually have plenty of posts to engage.

-

Reserving last post for EoN
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 23:11 GMT
#947
lol no I didn't understand your breadcrumb, onegu ^^; I gave you the townread based on your push on slam seeming odd to come from scum

well, why would he claim doc at night, snickers? I mean...what exactly are you trying to say? o.0

why were you protecting robik, onegu? robik actually has a high chance of being scum -_- do you have a metaread on him or something?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 23:25 GMT
#955
Claiming first thing is not typically a scum move, Snickers. We're not lynching an un-CCd blue.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 23:26 GMT
#958
There could be 3 but most likely just 2. All the 13 player games I've been in with 3 scum have had 2 prs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 23:35 GMT
#960
that was my question as well, onegu...robik seems like an odd save :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 23:55 GMT
#965
snickers, we're not lynching onegu right now. refocus. who is/are your other scumread(s)?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 23:59 GMT
#968
btw, robik

your "selfless" act isn't very selfless in the context of that lynch, now is it? how is it impossible for scum to switch from super to mm even if they're both town?

switching back doesn't really mean anything other than just generally being odd to me, cause why would you switch back anyway if it was 6 seconds before EoD? actually...please explain your thought process there, cause if no one was switching to MM or switching at all I don't understand why you had to move your vote

also, are you ever going to pick a scumread and actually push them?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 01:59 GMT
#978
A case, snickers?

I keep going eeeeeh at his EoD play, but his filter actually looks decent :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 02:00 GMT
#979
Regarding ritoky.

I am quite happy to lynch robik.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 04:42 GMT
#981
yo snickers...meta robik and rit with me will ya? since you're the only one in thread to talk to...

i'm not great at meta but if rit can do this as scum...and robik usually just screams at ppl scumreading him and otherwise sits around with his thumb up his ass as town...then i'm on the wrong track
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 05:05 GMT
#984
meh fuck ritoky can be active as shit as scum -_- and that was my main reason to townread him. lovely. okay well, obviously i'm gonna need a better reason than "active" to eliminate him from the lynch pool
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 05:10 GMT
#986
lol disregard...I've got a superficial way to read ritoky, but pairing that with how I generally feel about him this game, the townread holds up. i'm not great at meta though lol -_- just noticed he tends to only focus on a few players as scum (at least in the games I read) while focusing on a lot more as town.

not that my opinion matters since i'm only confirmed town to myself xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 05:20 GMT
#990
We're not supposed to talk about ongoing games, MM :/

But I would like your reads in general. Yes, that would be nice.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2015 05:22 GMT
#993
On March 08 2015 14:07 Snickers wrote:
So from glancing at robiks meta in that game and from what I remember this game.

HE IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol in what way? xP I at least gave my admittedly superficial reason on ritoky ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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