Mafia Mini Mafia: a miniature game of mafia

On March 06 2015 08:02 Soren333 wrote:

Interesting.

On March 06 2015 08:03 Soren333 wrote:

I don't like this at all.

Why did you write mafia in green?

On March 06 2015 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is mafia.

He wanted too badly to be the first one to post because the first one to post is always confirmed town.
In addition to that he used too many n's in his post. It feels really forced and doesn't make any sense. Why type more than you have to?

##vote Holyflare

On March 06 2015 08:07 captain fail wrote:
Glowing bear what do you think of soren voting you actually

On March 06 2015 08:09 Soren333 wrote:

Why do you find it uninteresting?

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So I got a flood control warning from posting this.

Am I going to have to deal with this throughout the entire game when I have something to say....

On March 06 2015 08:23 IAmRobik wrote:
You're all boring.
I could clear myself pretty easily, but I think it's kinda-bm so I won't.
I'm town
I have weird sentences structure
and sometimes i don't put periods.
this is getting long
bye.
too many games at once.
should have subbed out.
i guess it could have been worse.......i could have rolled mafia

On March 06 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

what??

On March 06 2015 08:28 IAmRobik wrote:

You can vote me whenever the fuck you want. Your opinion means shit to me and it's unforunate that I didn't notice that you joined this game because I would have happily relinquished my spot to someone else to suffer through playing with you

On March 06 2015 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
btw if the smurfs don't reveal themselves we can just auto lynch them

On March 06 2015 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yes.

It makes every sense for him to -- as town -- call holyflare's post interesting, then when asked about it has no conclusion because that is what the "interesting" means. If he did have a conclusion, he would have said "i think it's scummy" or "i think it's townie" in the first place.

On March 06 2015 09:36 Holyflare wrote:


how am i supposed to know it's damdred???

On March 06 2015 09:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I said it makes sense as town, not as mafia.

On March 06 2015 09:39 Holyflare wrote:


if you're talking about captain i though it was slam??

On March 06 2015 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
um he's already used the "i'm new" excuse and tried to call out something as weird/interesting but then only use other peoples reasoning for it as his reason for it being interesting so i don't see where any of you are coming from

On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:

Isn't day 1 just RVS anyways where votes don't have a strong conviction to back it up?

Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

On March 06 2015 09:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It does because if he is Damdred he is mafia.

On March 06 2015 09:49 Soren333 wrote:


I voted you because I didn't like how you claim to be mafia. Joking or not it causes confusions. If we take it as a joke, you're left of the hook. Either way I don't like it.

And all I said was that I am new to the site. I never said that I was new to mafia.

On March 07 2015 00:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Gb is your reason robik a real reason or a Gb reason?

On March 07 2015 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
I also really don't like that after 14 hours in the game gb returns and only comments on robik who has posted absolutely nothing new!

On March 07 2015 04:16 _Tormented_ wrote:
Wow that was a lot.....So basically we are looking at GB and Kelsier mainly?

I still read GB as leaning town, although I would be interested see why he thinks Robik is mafia. Robik has done pretty much nothing so far, so unless it is something meta, I would like to see GB's reasons for this.

Kelsier seemed a bit overly aggressive in his mafia reads on VE and captain fail. Would drawing that much attention to yourself after coming into the thread late be something mafia would do?

On March 07 2015 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Cool story GB. Still don't care what your thoughts are on this game or what your read of me is. And will still lynch you this game even though I think you're town

As for why I didn't ask for a sub, that's between me and the mod and has to do with respect for the game and respect for the mod and has nothing to do with my alignment.

On March 07 2015 06:05 captain fail wrote:
I kind of think mocsta is mafia.

He's really jumpy his reads are interesting, rayn mafia noe rayn top town in a very small space. Then hr basically becomes rayns hype man it feels like. Kind of weird.

On March 07 2015 06:49 IAmRobik wrote:

LIKE HOW CAN YOU POST SHIT LIKE THIS AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO EVER TAKE YOU FUCKING SERIOUSLY. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

On March 07 2015 06:54 _Tormented_ wrote:






Huh? how do those two statements even mesh?

On March 07 2015 07:40 IAmRobik wrote:
Not if the role isn't in the game. Then they're not relying on a fake roleclaim to live since they can't point to it and be like "HEY LOOK I'M THIS ROLE" just so someone can point out that role isn't in the game. DUMBDUBMDUMDUBMUDMB

On March 07 2015 07:41 _Tormented_ wrote:


Ok...so you still think mocsta could be mafia, but you just don't agree with captain fail's logic?

On March 07 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote:


doesn't even make sense, especially as you haven't addressed anything I've said and then completely skipped over soren who hasn't really done much today since you left and you yelled at when you should be thinking he was mafia instead

instead you went for robik because he was uninterested in solving the game and was afk but somehow you made that read based on the first hour or so of the game???? i'm also voting for robik which you seem to neglect

On March 07 2015 08:49 Holyflare wrote:


Hey mocsta did you soft a role not in the game?
Yes/no, end nowhere

Silly gb what are you even doing

On March 07 2015 09:00 Mocsta wrote:
Lol.. that's silly glowing

It's not associative it's adjusting as per current events
U think I'm scum
I think hf is scum.
He thinks I'm scum
U think hf is scum

Yes thy has to be evaluated otherwise ya reads are meaningless

On March 07 2015 08:59 IAmRobik wrote:
GB, please stop posting...for like........98 hours. You can come back after that time.

On March 07 2015 09:06 IAmRobik wrote:
I am playing. I am telling you you're an idiot, not because I think that in real life, but because i disagree heavily with your posts because they're nonsensical, not alignment indicative and the first role he softed was VT (me) and the second was godfather (forget what he said for this). If you're going to sit herea nd push his lynch becuase of these two factors alone, then you're even more useless than I am and I want to see you out of the game

On March 07 2015 09:08 Holyflare wrote:
You have posted 0 reasoning for me being mafia? You've posted a lot of reasons for robik to be mafia and even made it seem like you were sure.

I'm somehow your biggest mafia read? Horse shit much?

On March 07 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:


I wasn't reading you as mafia.

On March 07 2015 09:56 Holyflare wrote:


Please reread this paragraph and tell me it's a joke?

On March 07 2015 11:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just don't think that's doing it for me. MAYBE he's town and thinks you are mafia? Where are you on the likelihood of that scenario?

On March 07 2015 12:05 captain fail wrote:


Also why do you not have ocsta red on this list when you just called him mafia a page or two ago?

On March 07 2015 12:07 captain fail wrote:
Actually i'm taking back that you are probable town at this point now. After rereading some of the things you said.

Why did you make the point about VE saying MM is dripping scum but shifts to you effortlessly but you have him above Your mom mocsta and the like and you never really bring any conclussions of that just kind of throw it out there.

Why is your mom so far down your list at this point when he was clearely going against one of your top scum reads in Robik?

You were going hard against soren why is he so far up the list now?

Why Kel so high?

Like your list doesn't make sense at all to me?

On March 07 2015 12:23 captain fail wrote:
Actually it foes matter since your mom said he's shooting robik lol, day one bus usually seldom happen in that form perhaps but I digress on that point.

you always call hf mafia as well sometimes you are right sometimes not, you also call damdred and robik mafia s ton. But now someone else in the same category you want to give more time to? When you just made this case ok hf when he's guilty of the same thing as ve by your standards.

Your big yelling and anger fit at the start of the game is going hard...idk what else to say about that.

Your last point id laughable as mafia can easily defend a player for that exact reason and not blink.

Honestly this list is horrible and bad reasons, you fall back to scum

On March 06 2015 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:


This is bullshit

It's a standard opening. You can simply call it null indicative.

It makes no sense to like HF's entrance claiming town and don't like my entrance saying I'm Mafia.

Like, the game isn't that simple.

On March 07 2015 19:33 Holyflare wrote:
Gb I'm voting for your main scum read and you didn't even ask me why yet you still think I'm calling you mafia. I made that case on you to start discussion and it worked and I wasn't really scum reading you. Your reads are bad though.

On March 06 2015 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
you guys can hate on the read all you want but i'll stick to it and dig up more later, mark my words!

On March 07 2015 22:51 Holyflare wrote:


This should send off the biggest alarm bells in the game.

On March 07 2015 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh the hungover is real..
There is pretty much no chance gb is scum here..

On March 07 2015 23:27 Holyflare wrote:
Grats gb you quoted the second most sarcastic post in my filter and took it seriously. The first being how you are 100% 3x mafia based on 20 minutes of gameplay. I just haven't been here to play but, again because you aren't listening, that doesn't make me mafia.

I also commented on rayns case on kelsier what the hell are you talking about??? I came to a conclusion before you even did. Who isn't reading the game now???????

On March 07 2015 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if you cant piece together how i say kelsier should be null in your list and rayn shouldn't be high up either and extrapolate that that situation meant nothing then i don't really want to talk about it.

On March 08 2015 00:00 your mom wrote:
Actually played some other game with friends instead of rereading the whole game, but while doing that at least for D1 start and Soren's filter I got a new impression of Soren, a mafiaish one I didn't notice at first read of D1 start. Anyway I'm not willing to give him a newbie BotD for the stuff to follow.

I'll try to make the case nice and formatted so you don't have to read everything, or everything at once to be convinced.

# Series 1

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So this series of posts gives me the feels that he's trying to make his posts appear more important than they actually are.

1. Him finding HF's post interesting is one example of that, but has no influence on his reads.
   
2. Him not liking GB writing that suggests he finds it dramatic, but it really isn't. He doesn't scumread GB at all afterwards.
   
3. Glowingbear makes a cool move in this regard and doesn't go into that comment about himself, instead challenges Soren on his HF post. All Soren thinks of is to ask him "why", even though he just claimed to not like his post. So pretty underwhelming post in the moment he has the chance to interact more with his suspect. Instead he takes a passive, defensive stance and limits himself to a question.
   
4. When CF asks him why it's interesting, he gives somewhat a satisfying answer at glance, so I'll just conclude that HF sits null. But that kinda makes the whole interesting thing uninteresting, so I have to guess that he just posted it for the sake of posting something and make it appear important in a stage where everyone else was waaaay less serious. Also he sees the vote on HF excessively serious, which is mafiaish on page 1.
   

# Series 2

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1. The first thing I think of when he says that "mafia wouldn't put so much spotlight on them" is him saying he doesn't like GB for saying he's mafia. Of the two between HF and GB, who do you think attempted harder to put the spotlight onto himself? Right. And who gets scum- and who gets townread? Right. In the later part of his post he focuses on the amount of n's and then invalidates his own reasoning by saying he might be reading too much into it. So that's sort of wishy washy and the n's are absolutely irrelevant.
   
2. GB pokes at him saying he finds him cute. Again just a passive response to the guy he claimed to not like, and who has challenged him twice already.
   
3. He asks a rather pointless question about HF's meta, although this is my opinion. It just fits into the general feeling that this guy doesn't manage to pay attention to the "right" things. Again he replies in a defensive way after being asked something.
   
4. Rayn asks him a good question, gets answered with some generic stuff
   

Tone readish I would say that this guy is stiff as a broomstick and never lashes out at people. And when people he should be lashing out to lash out at him, he takes on a defensive stance.

Enough tryharding for now. I think the next posts are how he complains about thread size, talks about mechanics. GB pokes at him again and gets another defensive response etc. Read my stuff then read him, it's not really much to read. If it doesn't convince you I'll go on with my impressions. If he's newb, he's mafia newb and not town newb in my opinion.

On March 08 2015 00:33 Mocsta wrote:
10/10?

you're a dumb fuck.. albeit town one.

wtf am i missing here?

On March 08 2015 00:39 your mom wrote:


HF is one of the guys I almost never town or scumread at D1. If he's town he will likely get killed in the first two nights, if he's still alive after that then you should start considering him as possible mafia. I found his mafia play to be fairly similar to his town play, there's a tell I use to fully decide what he is which I'm holding back cause it's too early. Whatever happens I'm not even considering him for lynch on D1.

On March 08 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes and in his world (yes this is alsotrue for like every site other than TL) D1is RVS and no info can be gathered no possibility of lynching scum.

On March 08 2015 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am saying it's far more likely he is town because as mafia you don't wanna get lynched.
If he was mafia i would think he would try to adapt to the playstyle here to please people -- to not get lynched. Like everyone knows that is a basic of playing mafia as scum. You try to say thing that people see townie, right?

My interpretation of his play is he has no clue what to do and he is not trying to fake anything. Therefore town.

On March 08 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course it's not bulletproof. We are dealing with probabilities anyways.
I think it's more likely that i am right.
I think i am right on kelsier too. I don't understand why mafia is not piling up on him if he is town. I don't think mocsta is mafia. I dont even remember who the other dude voting for him is/was but i was and am townreading him too.

On March 06 2015 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta:

I'd assume around here is timezonewise your "prime time" for playing mafia.
You also like to interact with people in real time rather than reading the thread and then post conclusions/questions.
You also like to interact with me.

My problem here with your trolling is that timezonewise NOW is your chance to do that, with me. I can't really understand why would you decide not to do that as town here...

On March 06 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think there is quite a high chance Mocsta is scum aswell.
The trolling phase is over already.

On March 08 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to be more civil and just not yell my way through.
I have tried that twice before after doing something really stupid.
Every time i do it i get scumread/lynched for it -- and only for it.

So fuck you, what am supposed to do? People don't like my aggressive playstyle but if i play like this it doesn't work either -- apparently. While the content is same....

On March 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Read my filter.
Youre being fucking annoying right now and i am soon losing my cool because of it.

You say stuff thats really fucking dumb.

On March 08 2015 01:36 your mom wrote:


Just trust me when I say that there is a reason rayn is being more careful with his statements.
So no red flag for that post.

Also sorry if I don't want to consider HF for scum on D1, but that's just a good decision in my opinion, and I see little value in going through a case on somebody I already decided I won't lynch. Sorry bro . But I like that you try to make yourself heard, so there's that.

On March 08 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That was when mocsta was not playing.
Since he started playing i have agreed on almost all of the things with him.

Isn't that fucking obvious why i townread him? Does everything need to be written for you to aknowledge it?

On March 08 2015 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fine. I'll go read your case again and comment on it.
But not for an hour or so. Soon to have a beer with a friend.

On March 08 2015 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So i should scumread ppl who agree with me on the people i wanna lynch?
Kelsier is the lynch today. I am not going to push anything else. I have already said i also think mm1 is mafia but i am not going to push anything but kelsier.

On March 08 2015 02:08 Soren333 wrote:

Because there's been a lot of catching up, which I've mostly been skim reading and a lot of town/scum reads that are being thrown around. And I don't know anyone here so I'm still trying to adapt to learning who is in the game, who is doing what and who is saying what. Which is hard to keep track off considering that I am in three other games as well right now.

On March 08 2015 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol gb you literally are considring of lynching 80% of the game?

On March 08 2015 02:38 IAmRobik wrote:

"I would lynch robik because he's town and i don't know how to play and want to lynch him every game cause i'm really relaly bad" -GB

"I would lynch robik because I think mislynching him is fun" -HF

"I would lynch robik because i don't like playing with him and sheeping HF is an easy excuse" -yamato

Did i get that right?

On March 08 2015 03:25 captain fail wrote:
I'm here for a bit, the case on soren is good i'm just not sure if its good because hes mafia or we are just making a newbie play look like mafia. Its really easy to do at this stage of the game.

I actually hate your list here GB on people that you would want to lynch, why isn't VE on that list again? I just don't understand what your doing with all of these lists you aren't even really scum reading the lower people it feels like just a lot of policy lynches -_-

On March 08 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BlowingGear your case on holyflare is mostly based on him calling you mafia. I qgree with YM tthat's mostly omgus.
Also yourbinterpretation of holyflares play is not mafia indicative for him. It's null at worst.
HF pushes his cases, regardless of if he is wrong or right. Your conclusion of "hf pushing me when i was not here instead of doing anything else" is quite terrible tbh.

On March 08 2015 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pushing a cade is pushing a case. Regardldess of if you are here or not.
It does never make holyflare mafia.
He did not call yiu scum for not being here. He was trying to convince prople to lynch you. There is a difference between those things.

On March 08 2015 04:02 IAmRobik wrote:

Yeah, but if you think i'm mafia and you're town then the first statement is true. you fucking suck dick at this game

On March 08 2015 04:04 Holyflare wrote:


Wtf?

On March 08 2015 04:07 IAmRobik wrote:

I didn't read any of it and I still know that what he cut out wasn't useless because it came from a 2 brain-celled twit who doesn't know how to play the game and doesn't know how to tell if someone is mafia or town. So basically if all of your posts were ignored and you just killed yourself in the game we would be in a much better position cause there would be less posts showing incorrect and severely unintelligent thought process

On March 08 2015 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm not gb I'm your top scum read and you don't want to discuss lynching me. I told you how YOUR list should look so that's pretty much MY reads. At least read your scum read if you are going to play this game.

On March 08 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:

You can't get a clearer picture than this.

On March 08 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont like how gb "cares about the lynch" and then leaves his vote on robert who is never gonna get lynched this day..

On March 08 2015 04:28 Holyflare wrote:


When you decided to elaborate on reads. Even if the case was fake you still could have been mafia which is why case was so easy to push.

On March 08 2015 04:37 Holyflare wrote:
Which again would be classic gb.

On March 08 2015 04:49 your mom wrote:


The way you put it, it's like you're a victim with no fault for what is happening to him. But you had plenty of time to do something, none of the voters decided to vote for you from the start, it's just a consequence of seeing you doing nothing, and while that's something other people (Soren, MM) are also guilty of, for you it's aggravating that you're a regular player with the potential to lynch scum.

On March 08 2015 05:58 captain fail wrote:
GB why aren't you pushing for my lynch?

On March 08 2015 06:04 captain fail wrote:
Robik wasn't a scummy lurker, robik is more than likely flipping town.

You lynch the scum in front of you not the one down the road. If you think i'm scum, why am I so far down your list?

On March 08 2015 06:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
soren whats your top 3 anime?

On March 08 2015 06:18 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hey glowing bear, you think that ve and I are both scum, do you think our earlier interaction was scum: scum, town:town, or scum:town?

You called him out for easily switching his vote, but in the games that I've played with VE he's done that exact same play and turned out town.

I didn't like the push on robik and he blew it out of proportion but w/e.

Mocsta I'm not a fan of and I don't see where all this rayne loving is coming from and I'm not a fan of soren. He's posted a bit and none of it has meant anything which is different then me not posting at all.

On March 08 2015 06:24 MysteryMeat1 wrote:


This and the follow up post where he wants to lynch me. Why wouldn't your preferred lynch be soren? As far as I can tell he hasn't contributed anything to the game except telling people he's catching up on the thread. Plus Soren votes for GB. Mafia want people to think they are contributing without actually contributing.

On March 08 2015 06:27 Soren333 wrote:

We're already friends

On March 08 2015 06:43 Holyflare wrote:


What is your point?

On March 08 2015 06:46 captain fail wrote:
GB whats your updated list of scum currently?

On March 08 2015 06:54 captain fail wrote:
Because YM is town, I have a clear stance

You are now voting for your least preferred lynch over the secondary wagon at this time in Soren or tormented who are both above him why

On March 08 2015 07:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't understand why GB says I'm disinterested, I'm plenty interested. I just don't necessarily feel inclined to alter the direction of the thread as the person I'd like to see lynched is being lynched. What's the issue?

On March 08 2015 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:

See but this is wrong. I'm interested and I'm town. And you do know my reads, they're explicit in the thread. So that's wrong too.

I think you just WANT to read me mafia. Why do you want to read me mafia?

On March 08 2015 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Voting for Kels though, like the only reason you didn't is because he's modkill bait or something, at least that's what I can see in the thread. Are you here bro? Come talk to me instead of talking shit when you think I'm not around.

On March 08 2015 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nope, town. Your whole case is bad. I have reasoning for thinking yamato is town, I have reasoning for thinking Tormented is town, and I'm voting Kel because he disappeared after his case on me, not because he made a case on me. Nice try though bud. All of your points trashed in one succinct paragraph.

On March 08 2015 07:29 captain fail wrote:
GB sheep my case, tell me why is VE town reading tormented again?

On March 08 2015 07:31 captain fail wrote:



Ve willing to vote his townread who he thinks is town for reasons unknown.

Scum detected

On March 08 2015 07:40 VisceraEyes wrote:

Then vote for me bitch. You think I'm scared to eat a D1 lynch and be called bad? I was bad while you were still in diapers son.

On March 08 2015 07:47 Soren333 wrote:

I was thinking KelsierSc because he made cases from trivial posts. Then again, it is day 1 and you've got to start somewhere.

So when that wasn't convincing enough for a vote I thought CE was suspicious from that case someone just made. But VE managed to give a satisfying response.

So not sure right now. Probably leaningn Kelsier, but he's probably going to get lynched with or without my vote.

On March 08 2015 07:53 your mom wrote:
I'm late but caught up. Kelsier still didn't post, nor vote up until now. I'm giving him my vote.

On March 08 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
Soren hasn't given out free town reads or defended gb based on nothing

On March 08 2015 08:05 Holyflare wrote:
Your mom is probably mafia for that vote switch

On March 08 2015 08:12 Soren333 wrote:
So we're allowed to post during the night? Sweet.

Who thinks someone buss voted Kelsier?

Who thinks all those that Kelsier made a case against are now town?

On March 08 2015 08:13 GlowingBear wrote:


Why your mom wouldn't stick to vote for someone he had a case on and guarantee a mislynch if Soren is town instead of bussing his partner?

On March 08 2015 08:15 Holyflare wrote:


20 mins before a lynch and everyone afk? Perfect bus opportunity

On March 08 2015 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
So what? It's irrelevant, they'd look terrible after kelsier flipped mafia.

On March 08 2015 08:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
And MM1 you still look fucking awful - you realize you were pushing a counterwagon to the mafia godfather right?

On March 08 2015 08:51 captain fail wrote:
Note: If you were voting for Robik, you are now considered not to be voting.

KelsierSC (5): Raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, VisceraEyes, Soren333, your mom
Torment (1): Holyflare
VisceraEyes (1): Captain Fail
Soren333 (2): GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1,

not voting (3):
KelsierSC
_Tormented_
yamato77

Currently KelsierSC is set to be lynched with 5 votes
Deadline is in 0m 0s.
Remember to vote in the voting thread!

Why did you move your vote again GB?

Obviously can't take much from that I suppose, soren could be mafia here or town however the vote with robik in it is much more interesting.

Vote Count:


glowingbear (1): Soren333, HolyFlare, VisceraEyes, your mom raynpelikoneet
mocsta (0): your mom
raynpelikoneet (0): Mocsta
mysterymeat (0): visceraeyes
VisceraEyes (0): your mom
Captain_Fail (0): Mocsta
KelsierSC (4): Raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, VisceraEyes, IamRobik
iamrobik (4): yamato77, Holyflare, your mom, Glowingbear, your mom
Holyflare (0): GlowingBear
Soren33 (0): your mom

GB was the main push to get more people on robik, and it kinda felt like gb was trying to get rob to modkill himself. Robik probably could of been lynched at this point over kel.

Any thoughts?

On March 09 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were teasing gb for no reason.
Also you called your play scummy. Noone plays scummy in their mind as town. It is a fact. Therefore you are mafia.

On March 09 2015 01:12 Damdred wrote:
Explain what you know what makes me Scum you know it's me yet you have me on t2 going after mod kill Rob instead.

On March 09 2015 01:14 your mom wrote:
i like my coffee black, without sugar

On March 09 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Here let me do it for you.

Here is the case of why damdred/captain fail is mafia by damdred so please big shoot me.

Damdred enters the game and starts to town hint using bad reasoning to call people town or in the case of hf he used non reasons that could,make hf town or mafia. Also his town read on tormented is for shifty reasons at that point calling people town for doing nothing at all.

Moving on he's not really putting a ton of his ow thoughts forward a good portion of it could be called following thread sentiment calling soren weird for his initial postings, calling out mocsta out without interacting with him or much followup now calling him town instead of investigating past games to see if he has a history of bussing

Later supposed called himself mafia from a guilty conscious called himself,mafia whoops Scum slip, now he's outed and we can call him on it.

After robik was mod killed instead of hammering him when he was alive he called him town and looked for another person but after robik died tried to pull votes off the God father.

Vig get him.

Anyway now that that's out of the way hopefully I get shot and we can move on to other questions so I can be of some use aftertonight

On March 09 2015 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then be some use. Glowingbear is not mafia. He was way too unsure on who to lynch eod to be scum.
If he was mafia he would have pushed some, and one, town wagon.

On March 09 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
I've given reads that I believe

On March 09 2015 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
Gb so full of crap, he's giving reads?

On March 09 2015 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

This is an extraordinarily good point. If he's so familiar with Tormented's meta, then why didn't he push Tormented yesterday instead of me? Like, he hasn't played 32 games WITH ME I can tell you that for fucking sure, so why was he more sure about me, AND BE WRONG ON TOP OF IT?!?!?

On March 09 2015 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually that raises another point though in his defense - people were talking about lynching Tormented yesterday. IF Dam's mafia and Tormented is town, then why DOESN'T he go after Tormented instead of me? No one was really considering lynching me yesterday, and as evidenced by the lynch, going after VE is bad for your health. :/

On March 09 2015 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

Maybe, but I'm trying to figure out Damdred right now - and the meta argument doesn't apply, so it's a slightly difference scenario.

On March 09 2015 02:12 Holyflare wrote:


I don't know what you're saying. I was just telling you to stop being a dick because he was actually giving reads and you were saying he isn't. Otherwise how do you even make these conclusions if he isn't giving reads?

On March 09 2015 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mafia Damdred does never ever heavy townread mafia Tormented at the start of the game.
Mafia damdred cannot flip his initial heavy townread on torment when his posting hasn't notably changed during d1.
Therefore he can't vote for torment on d1 regardless of what happens.

Basically they are never mafia together.

On March 09 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You end up in a same conclusion anyways if the vigi hits/misses.
The worst thing is if there is doubt on who the vigi shoots and the copp and vigi end up on the same target..

On March 09 2015 04:25 Holyflare wrote:


this is bs because if damdred isn't mafia (he is) then torment is 1000000% mafia for what i pointed out yesterday and you completely ignored

On March 09 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you mean by stacking on tormented?

On March 09 2015 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shut up we are shooting mm1.
It's much better shot. Holyflare can be town and wrong. There is pretty much no world where mm1 isnt mafia.

On March 09 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:


well i'm still not and it actually hurts my brain at how bad your reads still are after all this time of playing mafia

On March 09 2015 05:57 Holyflare wrote:
do you think i'd be that blatently obvious as mafia gb?????????

On March 09 2015 05:57 Holyflare wrote:
you can shoot tormented i dont care, i never said shoot yamato though

On March 09 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol did mm1 just claim scum?

On March 09 2015 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like he says "...i have never rolled mafia before on TL."
What the hell is the word "before" doing there if he isn't mafia in this game either?

On March 09 2015 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:


That's just semantics

On March 09 2015 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jesus hisbreads for not voting for kelsier are bad.
I have not played with him. What the fuck? Has he played with soren then?

On March 09 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
so what you're telling me is mafia is yamato and is afk and you're all bad?

On March 09 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote:
What gb? Do you have red check on hf?

On March 09 2015 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vigi out if you are one of the following ppl:
Mm1
Yamato

Otherwise don't bother until lylo or upon being lynched.

Town can vote for a no lynch. ##vote: no lynch
Mafia can hold their shot if they so choose

On March 09 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
like it's not exactly within the realm of impossible that tormented is town and I'm just wrong when he hasn't posted much

On March 09 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
also i have no idea why you are so sure yamato is town because this is fucking smelly shit











most of his filter is him just disagreeing with my fake gb case and him saying he can't read me at all then he returns and just wants to sheep me for what reason?

On March 09 2015 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
i hope tormented is the rber and that way my wagon was the wagon of justice and you're all bad

On March 09 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
so what you're telling me is mafia is yamato and is afk and you're all bad?

On March 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
I said it's not in the realm of impossible because you tried to relate his alignment to mine like an idiot. Now I've brought up another target that is very likely mafia and your first reaction is that I'm mafia. It doesn't make any sense.

On March 09 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
Gb just stfu i asked the cop to check me too. You're conveniently ignoring that fact too.

On March 09 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:


Never have i EVER in 30 games of mafia seen a nk randomised when not submitted.

On March 09 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I was saying i could see MM1 trying to wait Torment to come back at the last hour of the phase before making a decision, then the deadline just fucked up on him .