EPTOn March 07 2015 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
Please reread this paragraph and tell me it's a joke?
Please reread this paragraph and tell me it's a joke?
Ok.
*reading*
Not a joke.
Care to elaborate how Robik is doing something and I'm not?
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GlowingBear
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Ok. *reading* Not a joke. Care to elaborate how Robik is doing something and I'm not? | ||
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GlowingBear
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VisceraEyes
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##Vote: KelsierSC OMGUS | ||
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GlowingBear
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It IS weird that VE changes his vote to me when he says MM is dripping Mafia. HF's case regarding me is faulty as hell and that's the main reason why he is Mafia. I was waiting to see discussion developing but since not a single soul is willing to play the game actively, I'm gonna drop my case in a moment. Saying VE tried to kiss your ass sounded like he meant "VE is trying to bud Rayn" by calling you town for a post that is null indicative (which I disagree but it doesn't make him Mafia) | ||
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GlowingBear
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Yamato Rayn Kelsier Torment Soren Captain Fail VE your mom Mocsta Robik Holyflate | ||
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GlowingBear
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I'd place him like in top of Robik | ||
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GlowingBear
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He is Mafia because he is scumreading me. No, really. His main reason that why I'm Mafia is that I flipped a read. We've being arguing this through most of our games. I flip reads all the time and all it takes is a weird post. It's NOT a reason to scumread me. He may say that the main problem is that I didn't follow up through. That's bullshit. His first vote was cast on me because he thought my post was an overreaction. Tell me why saying "bullshit" is overreacting. I was in complete tranquility when I wrote that. He then keeps scumreading me and starts making things up. Says I didn't follow it through (come on, I was sleeping and when I came back Robik's disinterest in the thread was much more indicative to me), but pointing out weird fungus IS a way to push further and gather information. Tell me what other reads HF has. None. He accuses me that I'm not following up my posts on Soren. Let me show you how this is double standards: - HF shows he didn't like Soren's opening and find it weird, but when I say it's weird, he defends him like he was town instead of participating into inquiring Soren. This is aggravated because HF SAYS that Soren already used the "I'm newbie excuse", showing a bit of suspicion. But find weird that I say something is bullshit when I say Soren's gameplay is deeper than the expected from a newbie. - HF calls Soren weird more than one time, dislikes the opening but does not push him further (you see, the thing he accuses me). - HF calls me scum and repeatedly keeps pushing a lynch on me, but does NOTHING to further investigate my alignment. When we are together he shows no attempt to further confirm my alignment by his POV. - He sees Robik is doing nothing. Says captain fail is weird for saying HF is town so early, but does NOT, again, push this matter further. - Finally, he told me recently that he wasn't reading me as Mafia. WHAT???? That's it boys. I've being inactive for 12 hours and Holyflare clearly didn't try to solve the game more than calling me scum for a reason he knows that doesn't make me scum. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Hapahauli
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Vote Count: glowingbear (1): Soren333, mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet (0): mysterymeat (0): VisceraEyes (0): Captain_Fail (0): KelsierSC (3): Raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, VisceraEyes iamrobik (2): yamato77, Holyflare Holyflare (1): GlowingBear Currently KelsierSC is set to be lynched with 3 votes Deadline is in . Remember to vote in the voting thread! | ||
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captain fail
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Firstly I disagree with what you disagreed with me on. For example he feeds into Rayn a bit that Kel is mafia at one point he even says "Oh rayn will get you" basically, he tries to get Rayn really on a roll tunneled on Kel when he was unable to fully get Rayn focused on me. He in fact said several times Captain should be the one voted off today, but when it was obviousy rayn was going on kel he switched to go along with thread sentiment at that moment and pushed Rayn little by little in that direction. Does that specifically make him mafia? Maybe, I think it makes him scummy in my eyes for sure. Also your case on HF is mostly weak, I think the strongest point is him backing off of the scum read. I can remember him doing something similar to Damdred in Linux mafia and claim its to get conversation started, so you do have a point there. The rest i'm not so sure yet nor do I know if HF should be the lynch today. But i'm willing to listen and reread him and what you have to say about it. | ||
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captain fail
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On March 07 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote: Here is where I'm at right now, in order: Yamato Rayn Kelsier Torment Soren Captain Fail VE your mom Mocsta Robik Holyflate Also why do you not have ocsta red on this list when you just called him mafia a page or two ago? | ||
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GlowingBear
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On March 07 2015 11:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I just don't think that's doing it for me. MAYBE he's town and thinks you are mafia? Where are you on the likelihood of that scenario? There is no way he thinks I'm Mafia for that and even if it was possible, he didn't try to solve the rest of the game in my absence. What does he think of robik's lurkage? I don't know How does he read captain fail right now? I don't know What he has settled regarding Soren after seeing that there is nothing interesting in HF's opening? I have no idea. | ||
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captain fail
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Why did you make the point about VE saying MM is dripping scum but shifts to you effortlessly but you have him above Your mom mocsta and the like and you never really bring any conclussions of that just kind of throw it out there. Why is your mom so far down your list at this point when he was clearely going against one of your top scum reads in Robik? You were going hard against soren why is he so far up the list now? Why Kel so high? Like your list doesn't make sense at all to me? | ||
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GlowingBear
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On March 07 2015 12:05 captain fail wrote: Also why do you not have ocsta red on this list when you just called him mafia a page or two ago? I said he COULD be Mafia. Then I realised that my argument was weaker than I thought. I've written it here once | ||
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GlowingBear
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On March 07 2015 12:07 captain fail wrote: Actually i'm taking back that you are probable town at this point now. After rereading some of the things you said. Why did you make the point about VE saying MM is dripping scum but shifts to you effortlessly but you have him above Your mom mocsta and the like and you never really bring any conclussions of that just kind of throw it out there. Why is your mom so far down your list at this point when he was clearely going against one of your top scum reads in Robik? You were going hard against soren why is he so far up the list now? Why Kel so high? Like your list doesn't make sense at all to me? It doesn't matter who my reads are going against unless I have a flip. Bus is always a possibility. I evaluate the overall gameplay of a single player. I don't bring conclusions on VE because I always hate his gameplay and call him Mafia for that and I think I should give more time to him to step up Mom is far down because his gameplay sounds fishy to me. That said, I have to evaluate him better nonetheless. I'm not worried about it yet I've never went hard on Soren. I saw things that makes him town and things that makes him scum. This makes me feel he is more null than anything else. I have to evaluate him better too, and I'll do once he is back to the thread Kel is high because he was spot on when he said VE already played with me and shouldn't be scumreading me for the reasons HF brought. Also, Mafia!Kelsier has no reason to defend a lynch on me to go against one of the most vocal/power player like VE is. | ||
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captain fail
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you always call hf mafia as well sometimes you are right sometimes not, you also call damdred and robik mafia s ton. But now someone else in the same category you want to give more time to? When you just made this case ok hf when he's guilty of the same thing as ve by your standards. Your big yelling and anger fit at the start of the game is going hard...idk what else to say about that. Your last point id laughable as mafia can easily defend a player for that exact reason and not blink. Honestly this list is horrible and bad reasons, you fall back to scum | ||
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GlowingBear
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On March 07 2015 12:23 captain fail wrote: Actually it foes matter since your mom said he's shooting robik lol, day one bus usually seldom happen in that form perhaps but I digress on that point. you always call hf mafia as well sometimes you are right sometimes not, you also call damdred and robik mafia s ton. But now someone else in the same category you want to give more time to? When you just made this case ok hf when he's guilty of the same thing as ve by your standards. Your big yelling and anger fit at the start of the game is going hard...idk what else to say about that. Your last point id laughable as mafia can easily defend a player for that exact reason and not blink. Honestly this list is horrible and bad reasons, you fall back to scum I've never being able to read VE properly and he hasn't played much with me and he hasn't touched the topic of 180 reads flip with me. I'm not comfortable with reading VE that way. Mafia can easily defend a player to get town cred, yes. Will them do that when there is a free lynch going on? Could be, but less probable. Will a Mafia defend a free mislynch then go against of one of the most vocal and strong players in the thread, one that is somewhat emotional, and that never got suspicion thrown at? Way less probable. Damdy, pls. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On March 06 2015 09:54 GlowingBear wrote: This is bullshit It's a standard opening. You can simply call it null indicative. It makes no sense to like HF's entrance claiming town and don't like my entrance saying I'm Mafia. Like, the game isn't that simple. Pls point out the yelling part. There isn't even an exclamation point in the whole post. Answer me: is HF town? | ||
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captain fail
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On March 07 2015 12:34 GlowingBear wrote: I've never being able to read VE properly and he hasn't played much with me and he hasn't touched the topic of 180 reads flip with me. I'm not comfortable with reading VE that way. Mafia can easily defend a player to get town cred, yes. Will them do that when there is a free lynch going on? Could be, but less probable. Will a Mafia defend a free mislynch then go against of one of the most vocal and strong players in the thread, one that is somewhat emotional, and that never got suspicion thrown at? Way less probable. Damdy, pls. Not damdred. Also how does what you say here about ve fit with how you read kel? You say previously that kel was right and be has played with you to not scum read you here bit you say the inverse here. Also your whole posting from cute to ranty posts and going to bed sounded angry | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I think I'm right about here... VisceraEyes Confirmed raynpelikoneet yamato77 _Tormented_ your mom soren333 IAmRobik Holyflare Obligitory Hard Null captain fail Mocsta GlowingBear MysteryMeat1 KelsierSC OMGUS Good night! | ||
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