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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:57 GMT
#501
On March 06 2015 23:54 captain fail wrote:
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On March 06 2015 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:38 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:36 your mom wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.

Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me


Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny.


Explain what you mean by low hanging fruit?

means u grabbed the fruit on the tree that was easiest.
i.e. low so nomladder

o.e. u made no effort and cpmmented abou ppl cos they looked bad, not cos they are mafia


Who is the low hanging fruit? Specifically?


me probably kel? I don't think VE is low hanging fruit


Well that's sort of my point.

Ym made his post about my opening being bad and not liking it. But he said this before I even made a case.on you.

Now he is saying my opening is bad because I went for low hanging fruit.


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:58 GMT
#502
On March 06 2015 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If anyone thinks "VE is trying to kiss rayn's ass" means "He could be finding a cheap reason to call a mafia buddy town" then feel free to refrain from voting Kelsier.

Otherwise you know what to do.


How about drill this into dense skull. Ve town reading you means nothing for your alignment.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 15:04 GMT
#503
Like you haven't even addressed my points on ve or captain. All you've said is I was unclear on my points with ve. Untrue

Then you said I'm mafia for not making an associative read. You haven't made a good case this game I dont town read you.

Your just nit picking on language , like we both did last game on prpl.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 15:05 GMT
#504
Gb is your reason robik a real reason or a Gb reason?
Zerg for Life
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 06 2015 15:06 GMT
#505
Yes, I exaggerated a bit. THAT PAGE didn't have much going on, but there had been plenty of stuff that had happened in the game to that point.

Is it possible that he didn't read anything to that point? Yes. Does that make him town? He could be.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 06 2015 15:10 GMT
#506
Whoa that was in response to someone else talking to me. I didn't realize there's a whole shitfest that has to do with me going on.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 15:12 GMT
#507
Ve can you explain why you scumread Gb??
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 15:14 GMT
#508
Gotta go. Busy day so probably not on till later.
Zerg for Life
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 06 2015 15:20 GMT
#509
On March 06 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Going to give where I'm at so far in the game.

GB does a lot of stupid shit and the reasons for his reads are bad. But he has admitted that he gives people town/mafia reads for less than stellar reasons and so it is not alignment indicative. Of the people who have voted him I don't know how often Soren has played with him but I imagine HF and VE have played more than one game with him. In fact I know that VE has played with GB before in imperial.

HF is being very aggressive about the GB lynch . He could do this as mafia but I think it is more likely he is town.
VE is my top scum read and here is why.

Firstly he made this post
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On March 06 2015 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:51 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

yes we actually try to find mafia.

By doing what?

By taking the game semi-seriously and then someone says something that interests other people and then people talk about it which leads to other things and then we talk about them. Like we have been talking about you. At some point you can tell who is presenting genuine thoughts and who is not.

Like, do you believe captain fail REALLY believes Tormented is town because "mindmeld", when Tormented made a same post he did after 17 minutes? Do you think it is a genuine thought that the most reasonable explanation is that Tormented is in fact town for it? Why does he not consider the possibility of Tormented wanting to lick his ass by "making similar points he does"?

For me it is a HUUUGE red mark when someone says exactly what i have said before instead of "yeah i agree with rayn". Because that is actually contributing without bringing anything new to the table.

This is a really good post by rayn and confirms him as town for D1 for me. Any questions?


I don't think this is a good enough reason to confirm rayn as town. Like all it does is explain why a read is bad, mafia rayn could easily do this and it feels like a soft reason to kiss rayn's ass.

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On March 06 2015 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Those posts by MM1 are just dripping with mafia. Like, I understand that Holyflare asked him how he's doing, but seriously if he wanted to type paragraphs why wasn't ANY of it about the game?


Apparently MM1 is dripping with mafia. ok would be good to get an explanation of it.

But then he switches to GB for no reason that I can see, and again I believe that VE can not think the case made by HF is actually good.

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On March 06 2015 14:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
[center]ATTENTION THREAD![center]

I am officially switching my vote FROM MM1 TO GlowingBear. Thank you.


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On March 06 2015 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
And look! I'm #3 on the wagon! Does anyone want to draw any conclusions as to what that might make my alignment?


And then a switch onto GB without an explanation, I don't think he can believe the case from HF is good. This also feels like an overjustification of a switch. Like "LOOK I SWITCHED WHICH IS WHAT MAFIA WOULDN'T DO, PAY ATTENTION" it's like he is trying to get ahead of someone calling him scummy.

Robik I have a question for you.
When did you decide that GB was town?





From what I can tell here you have exactly 2 reasons for thinking I'm mafia. 1) because I'm townreading rayn and 2) Because I switched to GB without an explanation.

This case is extraordinarily bad. And, as an added bonus, is completely wrong because I'm town.

I think rayn is town for the reason I gave - because that post he made showed him thinking about the game. He could have made it as mafia, sure. But I think it's way more likely that he makes it as town. And I'm NEVER lynching rayn today. Tomorrow? MAYBE! We'll just have to see! But today he's off limits to me. That's not me pocketing rayn, that's me giving my read on rayn. Don't like it? Deal with it.

On March 06 2015 14:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 06 2015 14:23 _Tormented_ wrote:
On March 06 2015 14:21 Holyflare wrote:
why is nobody voting gb? he's obvious mafia at this point in time


He may very well be, but training anyone at this time unless we are certain they are scum will just limit our information going forward. If he is mafia, do you think that makes soren town for sure?

I think it more likely makes Robik town.

Observe how he blithely asks the threads permission to vote for Robik. Ugh. Maybe I WILL vote GB. But MM1 is still screaming mafia.



I switched to GB partly because I wasn't offended by HF's case, and partly because there was something else about GB that HF didn't notice, that I actually commented on specifically. I didn't really mention GB by name as you'll see, but it's my own personal reasoning for voting for GB. So I DID explain my vote, but even if I hadn't, someone not explaining their vote doesn't make them mafia. Sry bro, ur case is terribad.

Anyone else have anything wrong they'd like me to correct?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 06 2015 15:22 GMT
#510
Well that's convenient. The guy his case is on shows up, disappears before the guy can respond to his case. Typical. -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 06 2015 15:32 GMT
#511
Hello? There are quite a few lists out there already and VE isn't town on any of them so something's wrong. Let's get on with it people.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 15:40 GMT
#512
On March 06 2015 23:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:36 your mom wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.

Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me


Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny.


Explain what you mean by low hanging fruit?


That you picked people that at least somebody has already suggested for lynch, so you don't bring in any novelty, you also don't touch upon things already mentioned about these people.

2 pages to read ahead but wanted to reply to this first.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 15:43 GMT
#513
The novelty part is good and bad as rehashing things already said is usually seen as a scum trait (doesn't have to be) , but being unaware of things said by others about your scumread suggests you didn't put that much thought into it. Typically as scum I'll try to avoid touching upon others and try an approach where it looks like I put a lot of effort in and invent something new (out of fear of being called a parrot), especially when I'm the last guy to post.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 15:53 GMT
#514
On March 07 2015 00:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, I exaggerated a bit. THAT PAGE didn't have much going on, but there had been plenty of stuff that had happened in the game to that point.

Is it possible that he didn't read anything to that point? Yes. Does that make him town? He could be.


Why did you exaggerate, in retrospect?
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 15:55 GMT
#515
On March 07 2015 00:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well that's convenient. The guy his case is on shows up, disappears before the guy can respond to his case. Typical. -.-


Don't think he only left coz mafia, if he's mafia he'd want to stick around right now. Keep that tinfoil hat in your closet pls.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 15:56 GMT
#516
Well that was a weird answer from ve.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 16:05 GMT
#517
Also yay for finnish trains for wifi actually working.
I'm gonna bet that wont be the case when i switch to pendolino in an hour. They come from.... surprise Italy.
Nothing works. The train wont probably even move if it was -10 celsius.
Hooray for italian engineering.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 06 2015 16:06 GMT
#518
On March 07 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that was a weird answer from ve.

Explain now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 16:07 GMT
#519
On March 07 2015 00:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Gb is your reason robik a real reason or a Gb reason?


The game has more than 12 hours and all that he has done was joking.
His reaction to my joke was over the natural, it just sounded like he was trying to deflect any kind of discussion
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 16:08 GMT
#520
On March 07 2015 01:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that was a weird answer from ve.

Explain now.

There were things to talk about. You even promoted my case...
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