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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 06 2015 14:27 GMT
#461
^^ AGAINST YOU
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 06 2015 14:27 GMT
#462
##vote KelsierSC
he is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 06 2015 14:28 GMT
#463
are we gonig to have to duel this one out.

fail is getting voted off this island today, rayn.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 06 2015 14:28 GMT
#464
someone tell me why Kelsier is mafia and gain a 100% town pass.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 06 2015 14:29 GMT
#465
lynching mafia, doesnt always have to be about who doesnt like you rayn.

fail is getting voted off this island today.
captain fail
Profile Joined March 2015
54 Posts
March 06 2015 14:29 GMT
#466
On March 06 2015 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Well you townread hf because he wasn't pushing the thread his way but the games ive played with hf as town he like bullies the thread to go his way.



Not always, I've noticed some things that HF has done as scum that indicate what he did earlier comes more from a town hf than scum hf.

And it just depends, I've seen town HF be more laid back earlier letting the thread develop and bully later after more things have happened and the reverse as scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 06 2015 14:30 GMT
#467
Nevermind i am gonna be traveling in about an hour.

One of Kelsier's points on VE being scum is "VE is trying to pocket rayn".
It is literally impossible he thinks VE is pocketing me in case he doesn't even think i am town.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:31 GMT
#468
If you want a reason why I don't town read you rayn it is because I haven't seen you make a particularly good case on anyone yet. You Called out Cpt for having a bad reason to townread tormented, I agree with that but that doesn't make you town.
Zerg for Life
captain fail
Profile Joined March 2015
54 Posts
March 06 2015 14:31 GMT
#469
On March 06 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:22 captain fail wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:15 captain fail wrote:
I actually disagree with that. HF at town could tell people in early game don't do X to give Y more time, it doesn't tie their alignments together at all.

Your trying to split hairs

You are right it doesn't, but you read Holyflare town and that was one of your reasons.


I can read someone as town for an action that they do or a combination of things. People can scum defend and be still town read to how they approach things, they could defend town.

soren is null made a few bad posts hes a newb here what I see as bad can be newb.

One of the reasons you read Holyflare town for was "I like your tone you told people to leave soren alone for a moment instead of s allowing us to pile on him."

If you do not think Soren is town your read on Holyflare does not make any sense because if they are both mafia he would be protecting his scumbuddy from being attacked, which should be a concern for you.

How much mafia have you played? How many games approx?


You make it seem like that is the only reason I townread HF when I gave more than one reason at that point.

Also your second point isn't necessarily true at all, I in no way said that soren isn't town and I didn't say he isn't scum hes a null newb who made bad posts. And HF is a busser rayn he doesn't defend a floundering partner don't give me that crap
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:32 GMT
#470
On March 06 2015 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nevermind i am gonna be traveling in about an hour.

One of Kelsier's points on VE being scum is "VE is trying to pocket rayn".
It is literally impossible he thinks VE is pocketing me in case he doesn't even think i am town.


Yep but assosciative reads d1 are absolute garbage and you haven't done anything to make you town.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:33 GMT
#471
On March 06 2015 23:29 captain fail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Well you townread hf because he wasn't pushing the thread his way but the games ive played with hf as town he like bullies the thread to go his way.



Not always, I've noticed some things that HF has done as scum that indicate what he did earlier comes more from a town hf than scum hf.

And it just depends, I've seen town HF be more laid back earlier letting the thread develop and bully later after more things have happened and the reverse as scum.


What things specifically make him more town than scum?
Zerg for Life
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 06 2015 14:34 GMT
#472
On March 06 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
[...]
Firstly he made this post
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:51 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

yes we actually try to find mafia.

By doing what?

By taking the game semi-seriously and then someone says something that interests other people and then people talk about it which leads to other things and then we talk about them. Like we have been talking about you. At some point you can tell who is presenting genuine thoughts and who is not.

Like, do you believe captain fail REALLY believes Tormented is town because "mindmeld", when Tormented made a same post he did after 17 minutes? Do you think it is a genuine thought that the most reasonable explanation is that Tormented is in fact town for it? Why does he not consider the possibility of Tormented wanting to lick his ass by "making similar points he does"?

For me it is a HUUUGE red mark when someone says exactly what i have said before instead of "yeah i agree with rayn". Because that is actually contributing without bringing anything new to the table.

This is a really good post by rayn and confirms him as town for D1 for me. Any questions?


I don't think this is a good enough reason to confirm rayn as town. Like all it does is explain why a read is bad, mafia rayn could easily do this and it feels like a soft reason to kiss rayn's ass.
[...]

This is what Kelsier says about VE.
It is half the case why he thinks VE is mafia.

Now the green part is impossible to be true unless Kelsier at this point thinks i am town.
It just doesn't make any sense to say that unless he thinks i am town.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 06 2015 14:35 GMT
#473
On March 06 2015 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nevermind i am gonna be traveling in about an hour.

One of Kelsier's points on VE being scum is "VE is trying to pocket rayn".
It is literally impossible he thinks VE is pocketing me in case he doesn't even think i am town.

i dont think this one is fool proof.

kelsier said
"I don't think this is a good enough reason to confirm rayn as town. Like all it does is explain why a read is bad, mafia rayn could easily do this and it feels like a soft reason to kiss rayn's ass."

this could infer mafia - mafia interaction.
or mafia - town interaction.

like i get what you mean, but its not a knockout like captain fail
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 14:36 GMT
#474
On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.

Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me


Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 06 2015 14:37 GMT
#475
Why the fuck would VE be "kissing my ass" if we were both mafia?
Would you. Mocsta, have used that wording if you thought we are mafia together?
table for two on a tv tray
captain fail
Profile Joined March 2015
54 Posts
March 06 2015 14:37 GMT
#476
On March 06 2015 23:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:29 captain fail wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Well you townread hf because he wasn't pushing the thread his way but the games ive played with hf as town he like bullies the thread to go his way.



Not always, I've noticed some things that HF has done as scum that indicate what he did earlier comes more from a town hf than scum hf.

And it just depends, I've seen town HF be more laid back earlier letting the thread develop and bully later after more things have happened and the reverse as scum.


What things specifically make him more town than scum?


Tone, how hes interacting in the thread currently
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:38 GMT
#477
On March 06 2015 23:36 your mom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.

Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me


Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny.


Explain what you mean by low hanging fruit?
Zerg for Life
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 06 2015 14:39 GMT
#478
On March 06 2015 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would VE be "kissing my ass" if we were both mafia?
Would you. Mocsta, have used that wording if you thought we are mafia together?
hmmm i didnt pick up on that actually.

good point

problem now is. i dont think captain and kelsier are both scum.
i know mafia can bus, but i dont see the value.

im also trying to factor that kelsier english phrssing is poor/odd
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 06 2015 14:41 GMT
#479
i think i prefer kelsier over captain somehow.

captain is caught out on 1 item

kelsier has follow through in his entire filter because if he meant mafia-mafia interaction... his next case should have been on rayn, not captain ormwhomever.

will change vote now
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 06 2015 14:42 GMT
#480
On March 06 2015 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would VE be "kissing my ass" if we were both mafia?
Would you. Mocsta, have used that wording if you thought we are mafia together?

Zerg for Life
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