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On February 24 2015 06:08 Half the Sky wrote: How much more of the depths of it are we going to learn this game? :p | ||
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The first volunteer to have their filter read! Congratulations! | ||
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On February 25 2015 13:41 Snarfs wrote: This is awkward, but I think Node is actually mafia. Have a look at a few of his posts. FIRST: His waffling about Damdred. "Now, I want to make it clear that I don't think you're scum. Yet." + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2015 01:44 Node wrote: OMGUS harder, why don't you? It's a little annoying how one of the default responses to criticism is "did you even READ?" I read your filter. You've quoted none of the people you say are suspicious, you haven't engaged any of them directly, and you're straight. A key tell for a mafia is indecisiveness, and what people are picking up on isn't that you're backing off on your reads, it's that they were barely there to begin with. It's as if they were practically set up just to be backed off of later, or inconsequential enough that you wouldn't have to follow through. Here's what I'm talking about: Now, I want to make it clear that I don't think you're scum. Yet. (a blatant OMGUS isn't helping) But I do think your posts have done little more than gum up the thread. It's one thing to call my post "interesting" and start to get people thinking about me. It's another to actually say what I did was scummy and why. SECOND: In the following post, he completely misrepresents Tronak, then says he just has a null read on him but if he doesn't do anything he's scum. "Overall, I don't have a read on Tronak yet, but that's because he hasn't actually said anything. I'm willing to cut him some slack for being totally new, but if he doesn't step it up soon and get some posts that go above sounding desperate to contribute, I'm going to get a lot more suspicious." + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2015 07:12 Node wrote: We might deal with it by lynching you. Can we not turn this into a spamfest? Seriously, I don't have the time to deal with hundreds of pointless posts a day. And speaking of pointless posts, let's have a quick gander at what Tronak has had to say so far. "Here's a bunch of things that have happened so far. Some of these people might be scum, but they all feel like town." "Here's what Node has done. He might be town, but he might also be mafia." Overall, I don't have a read on Tronak yet, but that's because he hasn't actually said anything. I'm willing to cut him some slack for being totally new, but if he doesn't step it up soon and get some posts that go above sounding desperate to contribute, I'm going to get a lot more suspicious. This right here is the kind of thing I like to see. (and not just because it concludes I'm town) Node's summary of Tronak's list is the following: "Here's a bunch of things that have happened so far. Some of these people might be scum, but they all feel like town." Here's what Tronak actually says: myself, yamato, and artanis feel scummy I believe Node is purposely trying to shed Tronak in a poor light so that he can justify a lynch on him should the sentiment sway that way. THIRD: This is the post that turned me back around after my attempt at looking at his previous games. He's talking about me, and keep in mind I know I'm town, but he shouldn't. If Node was town, how does he go from "this guy is my number 1 mafia read" to "this guy's actions could completely be explained by mafia, but if I see more of it I might consider him town"? His actual quote: "Snarfs has nothing to lose by "concluding" that I'm town if he is mafia, so my vote remains unchanged. But I like to see actual analysis, and more of it on other people is likely to sway me." + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2015 11:16 Node wrote: Snarfs has nothing to lose by "concluding" that I'm town if he is mafia, so my vote remains unchanged. But I like to see actual analysis, and more of it on other people is likely to sway me. None of this makes sense to me from a town perspective. My only explanation is that he's mafia. ##Vote: Node Awkward. I assure you this slot is town, though that's probably not too reassuring. | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. Thanks fecalfeast I appreciate that | ||
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On February 27 2015 12:10 KelsierSC wrote: ##vote Fecalfeast I love you too kelsier | ||
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If you're unsure, a 'list post' is where you show your reads on everyone in the game. Either by grouping them into categories (town/town lean/null/scum lean/scum) or by listing each player and your read on them individually. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:15 Eden1892 wrote: Artanis and Nodefeast are pretty clear mafia to me now btw Why did you think node was scum? | ||
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You are wrong on my slot eden. I will prove this with time. For now, however, I will play planetside | ||
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Also why was snarfs the other wagon? Why was you vote on a separate person, SL? Did you think both wagons were town but no one listened? | ||
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On February 28 2015 00:47 Tronak wrote: About TheShining after jumping 10mins in his filter: -He arrives terribly late because he forgot his tablet at work. 2 questions for TheShining: 1) Shining can't you play from another technology at your house? 2) Why didn't you play from work as you have recently made? -A pretty big proportion of his posts are useless for the game. I am refering to: 1) those related his presentation. 2) his apologies for coming back late into the game, the comunication of his progress of pages readed and comments on closed cases like Prob's case on Damdred all over in the midle of last 2 hours of EOD without adding a single usefull thing. 3) other spamm like: I am playing this other mafia game (I dont care at all what else you playing or how it goes) or I'm playing League of Legends. 4) his emotional posts with KSC (Iit happened the same to me, however this is my first game, is his 4th). -Then he puts this post comes in: Which brings me the following: 1) A scum read for lazyness on Fecalfeast. Fecalfeast we still waiting you do you homework and publish your own analysis of the previous 70 pages before you replaced, meanwhile your posts are useless. 2) About my reading on Shining for his list: clearly scummy. -He enters the wagon on Artanis lynch (mafia could do this at this time of D2 even if Artanis is mafia as I believe so far) -Reads town on Prob/Tormented/Kelsier/Scarf. -Nulls on Eden, SL and me (why?) havent we given enough information to actually town or scum us? Conclusion: right now I would be happy lyching him as part of scum team. /thank Snarfs for asking me my opinion in this pearl (I would have skipped him many more hours). What do you think on him? Responding to the bolded only: lolololololololololol You really think I'm gonna read 70 pages and analyze them all? I'll read filters when i have time and give reads when asked. I'm phone atm but will be home later. | ||
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On February 28 2015 05:47 Eden1892 wrote: Why in God's name did you replace in with no intention of catching up?? Ugh UGH, my way of playing is disgusting! I've read the first 70 pages from an outsider point of view. I am NOT going to go back and write a book report on 70 pages of thread. I'm going to go through filters and form read from that. I did not replace in with no intention of catching up. I replaced in with my own method of making reads this late in a game and don't have to do whatever little homework project gets thrown at me. I've just finished my errands for today and will continue to make reads at my own pace. Ugh | ||
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On February 28 2015 06:10 Eden1892 wrote: i missed when this happened and nah idk man. seemed townie d1? like i said i think there's a good chance i'm wrong about one of kels/yam/prob, so i'll figure that out on d4 or so if i'm around You're telling me off for not wanting to read but you're not planning to reconsider anything until D4? ok | ||
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On February 27 2015 16:51 Tronak wrote: Hi, nice meeting you. Your statement is completly false, prove it if you can. Now, as repacement, I expect you to do your homework. Read the ton of of pages and give us your conclusions before (or after) AFKing into another game. Going through your filter I saw this post I had missed before. I don't understand what you want me to prove here. | ||
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On February 28 2015 06:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh hai. Planned session is discontinued. Normally Capoeira gives me energy, but today it was actually exhausting. Would recommend the sport though, it feels pretty great. However, I'll tell you the plan for tomorrow. Everyone votes for me and that doesn't change unless I become a universal townread. We treat me as green and start bouncing reads back and forth on the rest of all the players. We don't discuss whether we lynch me or not unless EVERYONE thinks I'm town. If I'm mafia, it's all wifom but no harm done. If I'm town, you'll have a lot of good reads from someone who is now confirmed town. Sound good? What do you think of tronak? | ||
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On February 28 2015 06:24 Eden1892 wrote: no dummy, I'm lynching Artanis and then you first At least 50% of those people are town. You should reconsider your reads. | ||
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On February 28 2015 06:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Seems genuinely paranoid, probably town. OK, I was also suspecting the shining but have since started to waffle on that. What's your opinion on him? | ||
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On February 28 2015 09:48 KelsierSC wrote: Nodes slot was mafia Ff is useless and will continue to be. Lynch him and move on. What crawled up your ass this game? | ||
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On February 28 2015 12:02 sicklucker wrote: I hate to defend ff (like ever) But his slot did not look that mafia to me and he has made a huge effort for ff I'm working on my OP for my game I'm hosting but I am now dead in [Active game] so once I finish my OP I will go back to filter diving | ||
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On February 28 2015 09:47 Tronak wrote: "Is node new to the game? He was more active and elaborate than most new townies" This is what I want you to prove. Moreover since you are not willing to read the thread and catch up... (scummy) Now since you havent write the name Artanis in any of your posts so far. Whats your analysis and which are your reads after jumping in Artanis filter? I would appreciate if you could look it in deep and give your veteran thoughts. If you gonna tell me you havent jumped in Artanis yet after having 4-5 votes on him I am gonna tell you again that you are being extremly lazyscum. I am currently diving artanis like you asked. I am flattered you call me a vet but honestly, I'm a shitter. I don't see how I can prove that node seemed more elaborate and active (before he disappeared of course) than most new players. To me he looked like someone who was wrong and lost all motivation to play when he started to be scumread. Regardless, this is a pointless discussion. I am town regardless of what my predecessor did or said. | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because he basically dropped his case as soon as I wanted to lynch Tormented on the sole basis that I was voting for him. Speaking of Yamato, I've just gone through his last two pages of filter and he seems to be prodding in a lot of places right now. Feeling better about him. Artanis if you're around can you show me what specifically made you change your read on yamato? You were pretty adamant about calling yamato scummy for the first 4/5 pages of your filter and then this post comes out of left field. | ||
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On February 28 2015 13:57 Eden1892 wrote: Has Artanis done anything since I voted for him? No? ok we lynch him lol He sorta did what BH did in the last titanic when he was about to die. Except BH didn't afk afterward. | ||
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On February 28 2015 16:35 Tronak wrote: Awake and willing to read many things before EOD from: -Artanis (how did saturday started in the Netherlands, good to practice Capoira? or you willing to help us on this game?) -Fecalfeast (still waiting your analysis on Artanys' filter, kk thanks) -TheShining (my eyes are not on you now, I'll be happy to talk with you further though) Now I also expect more debate from: -Yamato (plz ) Did this ever happened? I mean Yamato, your inputs been very few lately. Ok you wanna lynch SL for slacking on keeping silence about blue roles. I cant read scum, but would you plz. help us resolve other cases somehow? -KSC: I understand your reasonings = FF = useless lets lynch him and move on. They seem kinda too "easy" to me though, keep it up please. Been a while since I used this video ##vote artanis[xP] | ||
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On March 01 2015 03:33 Tronak wrote: ##unvote ##vote Fecalfeast So to you I am the most likely scum because I haven't dome what you told me to do? Nice | ||
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On February 28 2015 21:04 Probulous wrote: OK, sorry for the lack of posting. Weekend mafia is tough, especially when House of Cards Season 3 drops First off, welcome to Shit-Samwich. Secondly ##Vote: FecalFeast I had my suspicions about Node and his replacement is no better. Besides not reading the thread he is simply asking for reads and misrepresenting reality. His first action was dishonest. Note Followed by If you were skimming the thread, the first thing you notice is who was up for a lynch on Day 1. He knows that Snarfs is looking town to most people now because of the way is the lynch went down but he asks the question to appear ignorant.I mean why did he pick Snarfs anyway? My only conclusion is he saw the vote tally and thought Snarfs was a good person to start on because of the way the voting went but he tries to present it as if he is starting from scratch. You know, make the most of being a replacement. Lying is probably too harsh but it is definitely misrepresentation. This is even more bull-shit if you follow the above. It like seriously linked in the OP. Followed by this If he even bothered to look at the vote tally he just posted he would know that Yamato was never a serious lynch contender. Artanis voted for him really early but I think that was it. Again, he is misrepresenting what happened in this game. SL voted like an idiot because perhaps he is one, I don't know, but a simple reading of the hour before the lynch would show you his reasons. These questions are not simply questions someone asks when they are trying to understand the game, they are questions someone asks when they want to appear to have no clue what is going on. There is a difference between trying but missing things, and just being lazy. Node looked like scum but I gave him the benefit of the doubt in-case life got in the way his replacement is trying to use that leniency to skate bye. Assumption one: That I remember the vote counts from skimming the thread from OUTSIDE the game. Assumtion two: That I wasn't being lazy when asking for the vote count and somehow 'acting like I don't know what's going on' Assumtion three: That I can ONLY assume someone was being scumread if they were a lynch contender. This case is based on the preconceived notion that I am scum and spins everything I say into a sinister light. And it's on a town player. scum points for prob | ||
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On March 01 2015 03:45 Tronak wrote: Most likely because you havent done anything. Why would I waste the opportunity to be scum be not doing anything? Why do you assume I'm doing nothing? I have been making reads and interacting in real time with people, if they actually engage me. Just because I don't play like you'd like me to doesn't mean I'm scum. | ||
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On March 01 2015 03:59 _Tormented_ wrote: FF what is your read on yamato? Right now we are set to lynch artanis. If he turns up mafia, how does that make yamato look with his artanis pls votes? Does it even mean anything? What about if artanis turns up town? In my honest opinion, the way artanis changed his read so drastically on yamato (scumming him and then at the drop of a hat:"He doesn't look so bad anymore") I think it looks more like Artanis ran out of steam/reasons to call yamato scum and backed off. To put it simply: If Artanis flips scum, I think yamato is more likely town based on artanis' actions. | ||
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I actually don't know when deadline is, I will also check that since people in this game see laziness as a scum trait. | ||
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On March 01 2015 04:03 Snarfs wrote: FF, what did you come up with on Tormented? In my mind right now this vote should be between Tormented and artanis and you haven't really commented on him yet. I came up with me going to be at like 11:30pm and sleeping for 11 hours. If I did start filtering him it was in the twilight of exhaustion and I forgot. I like you better than tormented so I will look at him instead of yamato. | ||
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On March 01 2015 04:04 Tronak wrote: Already explained (top post in this page) You asking this to Mr. newbie, I lack reading skills. However, I'll try to re-explain... I've been asking for Artamis to give us inputs (other than single tunnel you+some reads when asked for) during days, instead in my opinion he stopped playing as town 72hours ago. However, he based his inactivity on OOG reasons ("I am feeling lazy" "I am tired I've been in Capoira" "Flew"). I got no hurry to lynch him and dont care at all if he is actually lynched tonight, will be happy to do it if he doesnt contribute next night/d3. FF been in for 36hours after Node was out another 36. He has given 0 inputs to me so far. He hasnt explained his vote on Artanis and Prob's case on him is pretty good + KSC looks sure +Damdred also had him in his list (as well as Artanis) if I remember well. Look at my comments on prob's case and tell me why I'm wrong, then. His case is speculation on the motivation behind my laziness and that's it. | ||
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On February 24 2015 11:13 _Tormented_ wrote: lol fine, here ya go before I have to leave work. Take it for what you will. Player List 1) Probulous (filter) - town 2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) - town or overly aggressive mafia 3) Half the Sky (filter) - town 4) sicklucker (filter) - town 5) Tronak (filter) - no clue 6) Yamato77 (filter) - mafia 7) _Tormented_ (filter) - town 8) Node (filter) - no clue 9) The Shining (filter) - no clue 10) Eden1892 (filter) - either mafia or he is just being obtuse for no reason 11) WaveofShadow (filter) - no clue 12) Damdred (filter) - town 13) snarfs (filter) - no clue On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker This list is just bad. To have so many town reads without any indication of doubt on them (townish, towny, null/town etc) isn't that bad until you look at where this post comes in. PAGE 11. On page 11 this guy has 5 townreads (not counting SL), 2 weak mafia reads (I counted artanis in both here because he is apparently both) and calling yamato77 mafia of all people when his only interaction with yamato is to ask about the fake mayor vote. 2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) - town or overly aggressive mafia so... you read him as.. town/scum? So null? If artanis flips mafia I would almost call this a thinly veiled warning to artanis that he should calm down. *takes off tinfoil hat* not sure why that would happen in thread rather than scum QT, nvm. On February 25 2015 07:40 _Tormented_ wrote: You had it right the first time fyi. Also, I do agree ksc seems to be scrambling to make up for any reads that hts might have given away. So after listing HTS as town, he suspects kelsier for 'trying to make up for any reads hts might have given away' I ask: Why would kelsier not look at the reads HTS made and re-evaluate? I think if he kept all the reads the same he would be scummy, not the other way around. On February 25 2015 12:30 _Tormented_ wrote: he said he wanted an explanation out of me and I said why he seemed mafia at the start. Never took the vote off. shrug Once eden starts pressuring tormented he starts playing really defensive. Answering for other people^ and generally trying to stop anyone else from talking about him On February 25 2015 12:39 _Tormented_ wrote: 1.) Just the feeling I got by reading all the different directions he was going in. Now he is either misguided or mafia. He wrote an essay with no real evidence against me and has done pretty much nothing else since to help the town besides get mad at yamato for changing his mind. 2.) You were obtuse because you were just spamming random useless shit with no value. On further observations, you are more than likely town. 3.) I had no other real reads, I just put town as a placeholder. I still think ksc is more scummy than SL in that argument. 4.) damdred is more than likely town as is Prob. I JUST PUT TOWN AS A PLACEHOLDER? THEN WHAT DOES "NO CLUE" MEAN? On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker On February 24 2015 11:17 _Tormented_ wrote: sorry meant that town for hts and a no clue for sucklucker You obviously did not put town as a placeholder. On February 24 2015 11:50 _Tormented_ wrote: As I explained I went to mark town for hts and put it on you on accident. Was about to post and saw I had nothing for hts and wrote town. I just find it hilarious how big of a deal people make our of it. YOU DID NOT PUT TOWN AS A PLACEHOLDER OK I found a huge lie. I am not finished with tormented's filter but I am going to follow the smoke toward the riff filled land before I continue. | ||
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Yep, and since you've been so adamant about a detailed analysis I will no longer be posting an analysis. Feel free to ask questions though! | ||
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On March 01 2015 04:30 _Tormented_ wrote: @FF I am new on this site and my d1 is a mess and I know that. I promise you I am town even though my posts are all over the place. Ok then, while I'm going through the last few pages of your filter, explain the following: Did you use the word 'town' on your list as a placeholder? (If yes, go to a. If no, go to b) a. Why did you not tell sicklucker yes when he asked this very question? b. Why did you tell eden that you did use the word town as a placeholder? | ||
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On February 25 2015 15:46 _Tormented_ wrote: I already thought snarf was making an effort to be visible, but without actually doing anything. Nord called him out on it and his response was a wall of text trying to justify that Nord was actually mafia instead. I don't buy it. If you think that makes me bad, then so be it. If this is true I will re-look at snarfs. I must have missed that. On February 25 2015 15:59 _Tormented_ wrote: lol whatever, I am not mafia and you will see that, but I see no reason to post again since everything I say apparently gets twisted around to be mafia. Specifically who was doing this? This is a mafia trait as I said in my response to prob's case on me. On February 26 2015 08:34 _Tormented_ wrote: Your logic is sound and my vote on artanis is pretty much a waste anyway. ##Unvote ##Vote Wave Prob helped sway you onto WoS? Interesting, considering that we know he is town, now. Also interesting. On February 26 2015 09:08 KelsierSC wrote: why the fuck would anyone like tormented after that lynch? snarf made some bullshit legacy post that offered nothing of interest, which he obviously didn't read properly. and that was enough to make him switch off him ? yeh , no I found this when checking tormented in context. This post contradicts things that actually happened. Tormented switched from snarfs onto artanis, not wave. He switched to wave when probulous convinced him, which kelsier was only barely too late to be counted as doing as well. OKAY so I need to hear tormented's explaination of D1 before I can make a proper read on him. He looks decently towny AFTER the whole town-as-placeholder debacle. That said, I am now getting a whiff of scum from kelsier's direction. I smelled it from tormented's filter and it needs investigating. | ||
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On March 01 2015 05:05 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh you're scum and you weren't even in d1 so your opinion is irrelevant ##unvote ##vote: KelsierSC Your filter is trash. One-liners, fluff, and insults. You're really good at padding your filter length, bro. | ||
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On March 01 2015 05:34 yamato77 wrote: Loltanis ##unvote ##Vote: Artanisxp What do you think of kelly? | ||
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On March 01 2015 05:52 The Shining wrote: So Artanis is set to be lynched right now. What happened to this Tronak that has been suspicious of Artanis "before everyone" except maybe Tormented? He just sheeped a Prob case onto FF(to get off the Artanis mislynch?) after saying he won't change unless Artanis shows he is town. Has Artanis done this, Tronak? I like you | ||
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On March 01 2015 09:23 The Shining wrote: Snarfs/Prob or more likely Snarfs/FF. FF might have the scum power role, which would explain Artanis not saving himself over FF. =( | ||
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What about the fact that artanis was scumreading me? It would make more sense to call me town for a bullshit reason that looks like TMI when he flips mafia. Or was this also a bus? What a good mafia plan. On March 01 2015 08:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: KelsierSC - No reason for him to defend me at this point. It's highly unlikely I won't get lynched, plus the effort he's put in this game in general and his unwillingness to go for the easy mislynch makes it extremely unlikely to be scum. Eden1892 - Has had a terrible day, but he's probably still town for the depth of his analysis on D1. Tronak - Shenannies from me onto Fecal feels town. I think he genuinely thinks I'm mafia, and he's actively questioning everything to the point of me thinking it's impossible he's thinking up all these things as mafia. The Shining - Similar reasons to Kelsier, but his lack of conviction in what he's trying might mean that he's simply trying to look good post flip. Probulous - Has been pretty absent during the day, but the fact that he went for Fecal over me and didn't give in on the easy Artanis train gives him significant credit. Yamato77 - I still think he's town, maybe? His EoD during D1 had a lot of conviction, but it's flowed away a bit again since then so meh. I also don't understand the evolution of his read on me at all today. Snarfs - Snarfs is actually completely null to me right now. He seemed eager to actually engage me, is asking a lot of questions and in general his play has been good, but plenty of question marks from the early game still remain. sicklucker - Has been pretty flipfloppy on me today. Don't know why he thinks I'm mafia. FecalFeast - Seems more interested in painting everything as scummy than finding out who's actually scummy. For some reason suspects Tormented and me at the same time, then suddenly swaps onto Kelsier who has no chance of flipping. Trying to abdicate responsibility for his votes. _Tormented_ - My filter should say enough about him. Sorry for the poor performance, GL town. IDK, I just don't think vig should waste a shot shooting into someone who has NO REAL SCUM CASE ON HIM. Unless someone can show me how prob's case is based on real life and not speculation and assumption, the only reasons for calling me scum I have seen are: "He is lazy" and "I read node as scum" I hate people trying to call the vig's shot. | ||
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On March 02 2015 06:45 Tronak wrote: Moreover, wtf... I actually posted ALL Artanys reads yesterday night before EOD. Did you actually missed that too FF? you want me play Artanys last-post game? I want you dead tonight, and if not i want you lynched on D3. Clear as water. To me you are saying: "I want a town player to die" Do you wonder why I gloss over your posts? You act like a disgruntled schoolteacher | ||
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On March 02 2015 07:02 Tronak wrote: No, I actually I wonder why: - you refused to read the thread and just jump in filters. - you chosed to jump in Artanis filter after Snarfs and others filters. - you chosed to analyze Tormented. - you voted Artanis. - you refused to analyze Artanis and give us your feedback. - you just tried to trick me bringing up Artanis last post. - you lied while trying to trick me. Mmm let me correct my self: I dont wonder anymore. -Reading the thread after already reading it from an outsider's persepective is boring. Filters allow me to get reads on people. -Artanis was a topic of discussion at the time -Artanis asked me to, bear in mind at this point he was not confirmed scum. -I got scummy feelings from his filter and was partially sheeping eden -I refused to give you a detailed analysis on his filter as you have been really getting on my nerves this game. I even told you to ask me questions which you did not do. -Explain the trick I pulled as I did not intend to do anything of the sort. -Also explain | ||
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On March 02 2015 07:22 Tronak wrote: -I would have done as replacement. -I was meaning why didnt you chosed him first since he had 4-5 voted already on him? Instead you wasted your lazy time in other filters. -So you come into a game. A player has 5 votes on him. He asks you to read Tormented's filter (can you quote that? I cant remember Artanis asking you to do that) and you go and follow it before actually giving an analysis about Artanis. -Ok so you sheeped (or buss) "- you just tried to trick me bringing up Artanis last post." What exactly do you want me to explain about this sentence. The trick you pulled was saying that Artanis was reading scummy. Lol, Artanis NEVER read you scummy (here is your lie) until his last post (exactly 2 mins before being lynched). And you quote that post trying us to play Artanis game. Enough of your bullshit, if you want to make something usefull focus on the cases we got opened at the moment (and if you dont know them go read previous pages instead of bugging me). Part of me hopes I do get vig'd so you understand that not everyone has to play in the way that you want them to in order to be town. If I seemed deceptive in quoting artanis' list post, it was unintentionally. | ||
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On March 02 2015 07:52 Tronak wrote: You got 2 hours to show us the other part of you. | ||
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On March 02 2015 08:00 The_Templar wrote: Can't post in mafia forums while banned, correct. | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:08 Tronak wrote: ##vote Fecalfeast ##vote tronak Eden whenever you need my sword, I will ride for you! For now, however, I feel the need to omgus a little here | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:14 Onegu wrote: Here I am I am unfortunately not scum. So can one of the vets tell me who is scum? Thanks. Will read some filters later as long as they aren't 20 pages long. But mostly I will be making gut reads as they work the best for me. If you could be less abrasive than kelsier that'd be swell. I thought kelsier was scum but I'm not a vet so I'll let you decide who to listen to. | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:24 _Tormented_ wrote: Right now I am split between either Prob/FF and Eden/Yamato as my final two mafia. Can you explain how eden/yamato makes any sense at all considering how artanis flipped? | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:39 _Tormented_ wrote: Well, I think Prob could be scummy for the way he hard pushed town players in Damdred and Wave. Then hard pushed FF and claimed Artanis was town. Besides from that, he hasn't really done anything at all. Granted, if he was scum, he would of known that snarf and wave were both town. That would make me wonder what motive he would have for pushing to lynch wave instead. Node obviously dropped in and hard pushed snarf and then left. FF took over and has been very active and voted for artanis, but he has been kind of all over the place. Like this post for instance. + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2015 04:02 Fecalfeast wrote: In my honest opinion, the way artanis changed his read so drastically on yamato (scumming him and then at the drop of a hat:"He doesn't look so bad anymore") I think it looks more like Artanis ran out of steam/reasons to call yamato scum and backed off. To put it simply: If Artanis flips scum, I think yamato is more likely town based on artanis' actions. Now he is all for lynching yamato even though he said that yamato is more than likely town after artanis flipped scum. I am all for sheeping eden since he is who I remember pushing artanis the most. I am still not 100% confident in my own reads this game so I'd rather defer to a person who has been correct thusfar on their main read. To quote myself from another town game where I made conflicting reads: On February 18 2015 07:17 Fecalfeast wrote: I am town, slam, please hear my plea every time I look at the thread it is a new experience. I often refer to myself as being similar to a goldfish in memory. lol which also leads me to this bullshit: On February 18 2015 07:22 Fecalfeast wrote: HtS can I start making you promise to do stuff if I flip town? If I flip town, you have to post a screenshot of your role PM (scum QT blocked out, I just want you to be modkilled, not end the game) | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:39 The Shining wrote: As for where I'm at, I'm pretty convinced the refusals to play has at least 1 scum in it. Yamato and Kelsier. Yamato did absolutely nothing to help himself or town D2 leading up to EoD, then slaps a vote on Artanis. The interaction between them early seems odd after Artie's flip, too. If yamato doesn't show up today and actively play and help town, he is my choice for scum. Kels was a replacement that has been replaced and hid behind the excuse of a D2 replacement being his reasoning for not playing. I find that very weak and a cop out, as a even a newbie like me has dealt with a D2 and D3 replacement in the same slot and worked through it. I'm lynching either yamato or Kelsier slot depending on actions today and my rereads tonight. On March 02 2015 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote: Shining, I saw that you took notice to tronak's very easy jump onto me from artanis after probulous posted his lame case. How do you currently read tronak? Could you answer me about tronak please? I agree on kelsier's slot wholeheartedly | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:58 The Shining wrote: I'm reading Tronak as town, especially after reflecting on his filter and his very early interactions with Artanis D1 regarding his case on Tormented. If he's scum, I don't see him talking his scum partner out of a mislynch in Tormented in the thread, when at the time a few others were also scumming Tormented. One thing I've noticed(from experience,I'm guilty of this too) is that suggestive cases like Probs on you can be hard to look at objectively sometimes and can sway a "newbie" a little more easily than a "vet". I had my own reasons for voting you and I honestly don't like Probulous right now but rereading that point in the thread, a scumProb could easily post that case to try and stop the Artanis wagon and misguided town Tronak could follow it. But there's too much unflipped association there for me to run with that too far. Feel free to comment on thoughts about that. I can buy that. In fact I'd pay full price. That adds to my suspicion of prob and I've not even read his filter thoroughly yet. Guess I have something to do! | ||
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KelsierSC was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa. That account was created on 2013-03-26 12:36:11 and had 6057 posts. Reason: Reduced. Oooh, maybe if this keeps happening we'll replace the replaced replacement with the replacement that replaced in the first place. | ||
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On March 02 2015 10:35 Eden1892 wrote: Look at how hard this guy started balling d2 when there was basically nothing going on in the thread. He was a question mark among several question marks to start the day and then he tried pretty hard (imo) to figure out the game throughout the day. His 4th pg of his filter onward is all really good to me (it's about when d2 starts). I don't have time to post specifics cuz MTG in a bit but I think if you read it you'll see what I mean Yeah, I guess it makes sense for him to be town if I look at his filter without the scum-coloured glasses. OMGUS aborted. ##unvote | ||
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On March 02 2015 11:07 Eden1892 wrote: Thoughtseize: Best card or greatest card? I turned a matchup that I always struggle with (my Abzan vs GR Devotion) into a rout. I've owned a playset of Gameseize for 3 hrs and it's already stolen me 3 games I'm not 100% up to date with standard but if they reprinted thoughtseize I don't have to even look at the t1 decks to know it's a mainstay in any deck with black. Do you play EDH at all? | ||
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On March 02 2015 11:53 yamato77 wrote: /headdesk Who is mafia? | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:00 Eden1892 wrote: literally playing my first edh game right now power level is too high for me to deal Either you witnessed a lucky-as-fuck turn one play or you are learning why there are so many differently named board-wipes. Basically, now that this turn 1 happened in real life, all of my friends and I have this combo in every possible EDH deck + Show Spoiler [Turn 1] + | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:19 The Shining wrote: Yo, FF, Eden. No disrespect but there are so many other places you can have this conversation. Why hell are you two fluffing/spamming up the thread? -1 Why are all these newbies so serious? | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:27 Eden1892 wrote: also the odds of that happening are approximately 1.7*10^-7, not worried about that and building a deck around that is bad Well, since it makes the shining upset I may as well comment. Unless you're not running any creatures(serra ascendant and lightning greaves) those are all solid EDH cards on their own. | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:45 The Shining wrote: And I haven't played since 8th Edition was a new thing so there really is no way I could jump into your MTG Convo, even if I want to. FF, upset is such a strong word. Discouraging me from posting due to not having anything to say about MTG would be more accurate. That is a valid concern I hadn't thought of. I don't want to discourage you from posting | ||
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On March 02 2015 13:05 _Tormented_ wrote: Fair enough, but what about my posts makes me confused? Do you believe I have misread someone or is this just a way to discredit me? Nope, I'm only giving my read on you, which is based on your tone. Or atleast how I perceive your tone. Your D1 is just so different from the rest, which is not alignment indicative persay but it makes me overthink possible reasons for your change in posting. I did not intentionally imply that your reads are better or worse because of my read on you. | ||
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Tronak how do you read probulous? Without mentioning me or my alignment if possible. | ||
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I often ping people for answering for others but I'm bored. SL asked who was roleblocked right away, I imagine eden thinks he was fishing for a counterclaim? | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:08 _Tormented_ wrote: That isn't true, SL said at the end of N1 that he had some information to share, he eventually said he was roleblocked. If you believe him, it just means the mafia roleblocked targetted him. Doesn't mean he has a role. I guess Eden was asking if he was roleblocked again, but I believe SL said earlier in the thread that he wasn't. He even asked if anyone was roleblocked. The bolded is literally what I said. | ||
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On March 03 2015 16:11 Tronak wrote: Good morning from this side of the world, sun shining here today. Ok, so Probulous will be lynched, not going to disagree on that unless he shows up and reverses by himself the situation. I gonna leave my vote on FF for the record though since I am still convinced he is mafia, he could be mafia with Artanis and he can be mafia with Prob. And for the record again: I wont be here at the end of N3 (last hour), and first 22hours of D4 (got a business trip that will keep me pretty busy and without proper internet connection most of the time). Tronak Tunnels Towny, Terribly Toxic To Town | ||
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On March 04 2015 08:07 Eden1892 wrote: yes there is we have the blues claim and if there are 0-1 claims then we lynch someone else if we get 2 (or 2+ lmao) claims then we just lynch him I am here and do not claim, for the record | ||
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On March 04 2015 08:33 Probulous wrote: Hi guys. Really sorry about my absence. I'm just seriously busy. I can't stay long and haven't read up on the thread. I'm not a blue, just a regular VT. Mis-lynching today is not the end of the world. ##Vote FecalFeast Hahahahahahahahahaha That's it? Ok. Hey tronak if you're gonna get everyone to switch onto me do it now so we don't go into lylo together! | ||
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Call me mafia now tronak. CALL ME MAFIA NOW | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:20 _Tormented_ wrote: I am the Cop with the Roleblocker's death, I have no further night actions. checks? | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:31 Eden1892 wrote: OH GODFATHER LOL Oh well works 4 me I guess Yeah if there's a medic we actually get 2 confirmed town this way. If there's a vet he stays the fuck quiet unless he's about to be lynched | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeah if there's a medic we actually get 2 confirmed town this way. If there's a vet he stays the fuck quiet unless he's about to be lynched EBWOP: 2 confirmed town as in: 1 dead town and tormented as the un cc cop | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:18 sicklucker wrote: So to explain to the newer players. Since roleblock is missing that means mafia did it on the person they nked. Because if you roleblock and kill a person then the veteran powers do not work. So thats how I know its a vet/cop setup Oh damn. That does make sense. | ||
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Most commonly on teamliquid, the target of a roleblock is notified that they were roleblocked with the day post via PM. Since the cop is outed and nobody has come forward to say they were roleblocked, sicklucker is (rightfully) assuming that mafia have been roleblocking their nightkills. Since we know already that scum knows the setup 100% we can assume there is no medic since scum is trying to roleblock the veteran's armour | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:58 yamato77 wrote: It's also possible Prob just didn't send night actions. True enough but I've not seen a game where his teammates couldn't do it for him. | ||
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On March 04 2015 17:24 Onegu wrote: Ok yeah I will make my shining case in the morning just finished the filter and really believe that's your final mafia right there. You can thank me for solving the game tomorrow. I'm excited. | ||
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On March 05 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote: if i die, lynch onegu and sicklucker in order and win I complain about being town too often but if sicklucker is red he's probably just as pissed about rolling mafia so often. Regardless, your will be done my liege | ||
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On March 06 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote: You mean our Cop is uber townie? Wtf, why would you bother reading an unCCd blue role? Or did you miss that and that's why you killed Eden instead of Tormented? And if you're going to tunnel on me, and you do flip town, I really hope you feel like shit for buying into the easy lynchbait and throwing the game when I flip town at lylo. Its already ridiculously obvious that scum is setting me up for the mislynch so I'll be alive until endgame. Yay me. Fuck it, just lynch me today and save me the trouble of trying to save this stupid town. I have a case and don't even want to finish it anymore. Yamato thinks it could be me. Tronak thinks Onegu is scum but can't wait to see his case on me. Onegu is casing me. That leaves SL and Tormented. If either one of you want to vote me, let me know and I'll drop my vote so I can go instead of Onegu. Then you tards can mislynch Onegu and throw the game. Have fun. Later. Lool wtf is this post? Nobody is on onegu's side here. You make a good point about the cop not dying and his cluelessness in that post but the rest of it is whining for no reason... | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:32 yamato77 wrote: So, people think shining is town, I'm still unconvinced. I've been reasonably sure that FF/Onegu/Tronak were town but we'll reconsider in the night phase. No reason to lose because I overlooked someone. On March 05 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote: if i die, lynch onegu and sicklucker in order and win On March 04 2015 08:27 yamato77 wrote: No one listen to Eden, he's throwing. On March 05 2015 19:18 yamato77 wrote: well onegu if you're mafia I would just concede ##Vote: Onegu If onegu is town i think it's yamato. No resistance to an onegu lynch? wut? | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC KelsierSC (1): sicklucker Not Voting (0): Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. On March 01 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote: Vote Count Artanis[Xp] (6): Eden1892, _Tormented_, Snarfs, sicklucker, Yamato77, Tronak fecalfeast (3): KelsierSC, Probulous, The Shining _Tormented_ (1): Artanis[Xp] KelsierSC (1): fecalfeast Not Voting (0): Currently, Artanis[Xp] is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. On March 04 2015 08:48 rsoultin wrote: Vote Count Probulous (7): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Eden1892, _Tormented_, Yamato77, sicklucker, Onegu Fecalfeast (2): Tronak, Probulous Not Voting (0): Currently, Probulous is set to be lynched. Day 3 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. kelsier and artanis voted for the same person D1, kelsier and probulous voted together D2, D3 onegu votes probulous but the only vote not on probulous is tronak. Meanwhile yamato voted both mafia. I take back my last post and will look for into the votes in a bit | ||
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On March 06 2015 11:21 The Shining wrote: Fwiw, the case I hinted at is on Tronak. dope | ||
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On March 06 2015 15:00 yamato77 wrote: hm. ##unvote can you tell me why you changed your mind on onegu? | ||
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On March 06 2015 18:53 Onegu wrote: Btw there is no way in hell Yamato is final scum. Scum Yamato doesn't play the game let alone lead bussing wagons. It doesn't happen. FF you will not ever vote Yamato I already said i take that back in my vote colouring post | ||
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On March 07 2015 08:17 The Shining wrote: Yeah. ##Vote: Tronak No way I'm getting my case out before EoD. I don't expect anyone to sheep me either. But I really don't think that Onegu case comes from scum. And he's got 4 votes without mine, I could hammer him to save myself but he seems about as worried as I do about being lynched. And I'm not worried at all lol lynching me helps town get rid of lylo lynchbait, since the two wagons are both town IMO. post what you have lol wtf | ||
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On March 07 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote: Damn it, I really wanted to be lynched today. I even wasted my vote to make it possible. Good news is, there's 6 of us. NK of either Yamato or Tormented. Tomorrow, I get mislynched, flip VT. Whoever doesn't die tonight dies for that NK. Your lylo is looking like Tronak, Sicklucker, Fecalfeast. dude that would be awesome SL hates final 3 | ||
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On March 09 2015 19:05 yamato77 wrote: right now, I think this is something approximating my thoughts on the game: tronak fecal sick shining but really, my only good townread is you, tronak FF I thought was town because of node, but I could have been wrong. SL is a fucking question mark. I still think his softing blue was worth lynching him over but it's a bit late for that sort of thing now Shining I have thought was mafia since I made those reads, but honestly there is a certain amount of doubt that comes with this sort of thing. I wish we could have lynched him yesterday instead of Onegu but I wasn't early enough with the switch we still have a role in the game. I suppose if that person gets to lylo it's a good claim to get it to 50/50 odds but it's probably not worth claiming before most other people thought i was scum because of node.. Why the difference? | ||
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On March 10 2015 06:52 Blazinghand wrote: Reminder, Day 5 is exactly 48 hours long. For those of you who might be dealing with odd time zone issues due to DST, Day 5 ends exactly 48 hours after it began, or roughly 2 hours from this post. *walks to corner of shame* | ||
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On March 10 2015 07:14 yamato77 wrote: kinda have to lynch him if he's town though this game will be hard If he's town I'm lynching sicklucker | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:32 sicklucker wrote: AGFHFDFGH GOD NO GOD hahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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On March 06 2015 10:48 Fecalfeast wrote: If onegu is town i think it's yamato. No resistance to an onegu lynch? wut? On March 06 2015 17:01 Fecalfeast wrote: can you tell me why you changed your mind on onegu? | ||
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On March 11 2015 10:26 sicklucker wrote: Well no lynch sounds like a waste of time. Mafia wanted a no kill here he just shot me or didnt submit a kill. If we sleep it will repeat http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=...and_they_all_lived_happily_ever_after | ||
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On March 11 2015 10:17 yamato77 wrote: The correct play is no lynch but I kind of believe FF has to be mafia here if SL is the vet. If I were to take this statement at face value, I would have to conclude that SL is not the vet. I'm taking it at a different value, however, and think you may be feeding tronak's paranoia to ensure the last mislynch | ||
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