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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 01 2015 23:44 GMT
#1787
Another replacement replacing a replacement? What are the chances this happens in back to back games for me?

Not sure if I want to laugh or rip my hair out.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 00:30 GMT
#1820
On March 02 2015 09:24 _Tormented_ wrote:
Right now I am split between either Prob/FF and Eden/Yamato as my final two mafia.


Which do you think is more likely and why?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 00:31 GMT
#1822
EBWOP: which pair*
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 00:39 GMT
#1826
As for where I'm at, I'm pretty convinced the refusals to play has at least 1 scum in it. Yamato and Kelsier.

Yamato did absolutely nothing to help himself or town D2 leading up to EoD, then slaps a vote on Artanis. The interaction between them early seems odd after Artie's flip, too. If yamato doesn't show up today and actively play and help town, he is my choice for scum.

Kels was a replacement that has been replaced and hid behind the excuse of a D2 replacement being his reasoning for not playing. I find that very weak and a cop out, as a even a newbie like me has dealt with a D2 and D3 replacement in the same slot and worked through it.

I'm lynching either yamato or Kelsier slot depending on actions today and my rereads tonight.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 00:58 GMT
#1834
On March 02 2015 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
Shining, I saw that you took notice to tronak's very easy jump onto me from artanis after probulous posted his lame case. How do you currently read tronak?


I'm reading Tronak as town, especially after reflecting on his filter and his very early interactions with Artanis D1 regarding his case on Tormented. If he's scum, I don't see him talking his scum partner out of a mislynch in Tormented in the thread, when at the time a few others were also scumming Tormented.

One thing I've noticed(from experience,I'm guilty of this too) is that suggestive cases like Probs on you can be hard to look at objectively sometimes and can sway a "newbie" a little more easily than a "vet". I had my own reasons for voting you and I honestly don't like Probulous right now but rereading that point in the thread, a scumProb could easily post that case to try and stop the Artanis wagon and misguided town Tronak could follow it.

But there's too much unflipped association there for me to run with that too far. Feel free to comment on thoughts about that.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 01:22 GMT
#1838
On March 02 2015 09:53 _Tormented_ wrote:
As far as Eden vs Yamato. I read through all of Yamato's scum games and I just don't think this is one of them. He rarely if ever conflicted his other team mates d1 and on here he got into it with artanis. Would artanis even go to the trouble of adding to yamato's posted evidence and voting me and then turning on yamato? This just seems to me to be too unlike scum actions.

Eden I am wary of because of the way he has diverted attention from himself pretty much any time it has come up. The fact he is still alive is suspicious in and of itself. Would mafia kill snarf over eden? Eden did question artanis on his reasoning for voting snarf and then immediately voted for him on D2. That could be a very well run bus or just a good lynch.

In conclusion, I do believe yamato is more than likely town, but if he does nothing today to help his case today I will understand a lynch on him. Eden remains null to me at the moment. Something just doesn't sit right about his posting, but I can't explain it enough to even try and lynch him right now.

I would much rather look at either Prob or FF for the lynch today.


Yeah, I'm confident on my Tormented read. There's an effort and commitment to his reads and posts as the game progresses.

As for yamato, I'd have to read those games myself and compare. I even tried to give yamato BoD during his ragefit and engage him and got blatantly ignored. Like seriously, what town does this?

SL did bring up that the Snarfs kill could have been a medic dodge. I'm not sure I buy that but keeping Eden alive also raises suspicion for why Eden is still alive, which scum could also do. Hence, why early NKs are pretty wifom.
And I've always been weary of Eden. I didn't even town lean him right away even though I wanted to just because of how much I felt he wanted to be towned, though he disagreed. The only way I see Eden flipping scum is as Godfather and at this point, unless Artanis told him way beforehand he couldn't play and to bus him, this seems like a REALLY far reach. Not impossible but very highly improbable.

I'm on either yamato/Kels + Prob right now.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 03:19 GMT
#1851
Yo, FF, Eden. No disrespect but there are so many other places you can have this conversation.

Why hell are you two fluffing/spamming up the thread?

-1
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 03:25 GMT
#1854
On March 02 2015 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 12:19 The Shining wrote:
Yo, FF, Eden. No disrespect but there are so many other places you can have this conversation.

Why hell are you two fluffing/spamming up the thread?

-1

Why are all these newbies so serious?


Why are all the vets either refusing to play the game or spamming?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 03:28 GMT
#1857
I didn't realize it was MY job to make you guys play or scumhunt.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 03:30 GMT
#1858
On March 02 2015 12:28 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 12:25 The Shining wrote:
On March 02 2015 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2015 12:19 The Shining wrote:
Yo, FF, Eden. No disrespect but there are so many other places you can have this conversation.

Why hell are you two fluffing/spamming up the thread?

-1

Why are all these newbies so serious?


Why are all the vets either refusing to play the game or spamming?

i left you a treasure trove of amazing posts to get starry-eyed over in the last 4 hrs. there's plenty of playing going on

you should direct this question to yamato who checked in just to be fake-annoyed


I have. No response. His posts since then have been artanis plz artanis plz vote artanis headdesk. He is a potential lynch for me. However, there are 2 scum left, not 1, so wasting time and not pressuring anyone else doesn't help town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 03:43 GMT
#1862
On March 02 2015 08:58 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh no time to catch up before I die

if I die:
- lynch yamato
- make Kelsier and Probulous bleed town like they did when they were active later in d1
- figure out Tormented
- don't lynch Snarfs, Shining, Tronak, sicklucker and PROBABLY not Fecalfeast UNLESS you'd otherwise lynch into the no-lynch list


OK then Eden. We lynch yamato, I'm pretty onboard with that tbh, have been for a bit.

Kels and Prob. Kels is no longer playing, do you intend on judging the slot off of Kelsier's large but fluffed filter or Onegu?
Probulous is still MIA, thoughts on what I implied about his case on FF?

Tormented - with his few posts at Day Start, any change in read?

Pretty much onboard with your don't Lynch list, too, with the exception of FF for reasons I've mentioned before. But he is lower on the list than he was when I voted him.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 03:45 GMT
#1863
And I haven't played since 8th Edition was a new thing so there really is no way I could jump into your MTG Convo, even if I want to.

FF, upset is such a strong word. Discouraging me from posting due to not having anything to say about MTG would be more accurate.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 04:54 GMT
#1869
So Eden gives me 4 options after asking what I want. I ask what I want and no more MTG spam or response. Sadness.

FF, I wasn't trying to be a thread Nazi but I was just putting out valid reason for why I was attacking the convo. I don't want to be accused of discouraging convo but there are newbies this game. I guess I'm afraid someone will come back to thread with a question or thought or read, try to see where thread direction is headed, get lost in the spam and come back later.

And that time could be crucial to analyzing that person's question/thought/etc.

Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 05:08 GMT
#1871
I figured, hence sadness, not madness. I wanted to talk to you, not chase you back to your game lol.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 06:31 GMT
#1887
That is what happens when I try to get you to play and post and interact with me numerous times and you don't. Maybe if you had responded to me throughout one of your Artanis Plz or headdesk posts, I'd have something to go off of with you.

I can't believe I had to pull teeth and whine all over the thread to get you to do WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING AS TOWN ANYWAY. Took me fucking scumming you and changing my stance on you to get you to play, GJ. I reassessed my read on you and you still couldn't be bothered to contribute or interact with me until I scummed you again.

Meh, you've been angry and emotionally driven concerning me. Talk to me about me once you're willing to look at things objectively, not "he's scumming me so now I'm going to spin his posts to look scum.". I'll also ignore the fact that you meeeeehhhh Probulous but don't address the fact I'm scumming him. Srsly, get out of your tunnel.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 06:43 GMT
#1891
Yes, this is what you should be doing as town. I just said that. The fact that I had to piss and moan about it over and over to get you to do so is the problem.

And OK, kudos to you if you feel that way. We all have different playstyles and different ways we read people. I don't feel that way.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 06:53 GMT
#1893
So your Eden read basically just flew out the window. Your other scum was Snarfs, dead confirmed VT now.

Now it is me and Probulous. Funny how yesterday you made sure to mention "Prob was no one's top lynch."

You see how there's no progression from one point to the next? You're taking posts instead of reading filters and context and just hammering scum reads. That's why I don't think interacting with the thread is meaningless. I don't scum you if I can actually see where and how you drop reads and move onto the next.

And your last few posts are actually pretty townie. They'd probably be moreso if you didn't wait a full day and night phase to do so, though.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 07:02 GMT
#1895
On March 02 2015 14:13 Eden1892 wrote:
Wow that case on Fecalfeast was actually not very good at all

I think it's literally "Node said bad stuff" plus "Fecalfeast did something that I can interpret in multiple ways but interpreted the way that makes him look worst" plus "I'm ignoring the bulk of what Fecalfeast did d2 which includes trifling trivialities like trying to solve the game and actually looking townie"

I agree with your characterization Shining, I'd say it's pretty clearly not something that has to come from townie POV.

That plus him dropping off the face of the Earth really makes me want to lynch him.









Really I just want three of Yamato, Kelsier, Tormented, sicklucker and Probulous to be blues or obvtown or something so we can POE this Probulous would be a good lynch as would basically that whole list except SL


Take yamato and Tormented off of that list. Yamato is finally playing now and pretty obvtown after these latest posts, even if I don't like the conclusion. And Yamato parroted me in saying that post makes Tormented town, which I still stand by.

It's probulous/kelskynegu IMO, I'm still not seeing scum in SL.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 07:31 GMT
#1898
Activity and filter size alone does not = alignment.

HTS had one of the biggest filters in my first ever TL game. Mafia godfather.

DP had the largest filter besides Geript last Student game. Mafia RB, scummed with me. You should really read that scum game, or at least my filter, and tell me if you truly think I'm scum. If so, vote me and get it over with. My wincon isnt to survive but us wasting time on each other doesn't help town. You don't see that, but I do.

I agree with you on Probulous but I'm "dissociating & bussing" so whatevs. It is what it is.

##Voterobulous
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 02 2015 07:32 GMT
#1899
Ebwop: format error

##Vote Probulous
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