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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 21:57 GMT
#921
if you people think wave is scummy you should put my balls where your mouth is and vote him.

Zerg for Life
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
February 25 2015 22:02 GMT
#922
Has Sicklucker ever been town???
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
February 25 2015 22:03 GMT
#923
On February 26 2015 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
if you people think wave is scummy you should put my balls where your mouth is and vote him.



What do you think about Wave?
LeaVe & LeT DiE
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 22:05 GMT
#924
On February 26 2015 07:03 Tronak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
if you people think wave is scummy you should put my balls where your mouth is and vote him.



What do you think about Wave?


lol I have no fucking idea.
Zerg for Life
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 25 2015 22:05 GMT
#925
Prob are you opposed to the Snarfs lynch?
Writer@WriterYamato
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
February 25 2015 22:09 GMT
#926
On February 26 2015 07:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 07:03 Tronak wrote:
On February 26 2015 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
if you people think wave is scummy you should put my balls where your mouth is and vote him.



What do you think about Wave?


lol I have no fucking idea.


Was hoping for you to put some weight in tbh. I am starting to believe in Eden's push on him (sorry Eden if that doesnt permit you close your case on him).

LeaVe & LeT DiE
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 25 2015 22:12 GMT
#927
On February 26 2015 07:02 Probulous wrote:
Has Sicklucker ever been town???

...bruh I just quoted a game where he has LOL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 25 2015 22:13 GMT
#928
On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case.

"Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control.

And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town.

On February 26 2015 05:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Here we are just over 2 hours out from the lynch and Wave, after spending the better half of the last 24 hours on a woe-is-me I'm-so-lost pity party, is content just to fling stupid one-liner shit instead of trying to find mafia. How are we not lynching this guy?

this still eagerly awaits refutation from SOMEBODY
ANYBODY
PLS
RESPOND
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
February 25 2015 22:14 GMT
#929
On February 26 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:
Prob are you opposed to the Snarfs lynch?

Still making up my mind.

Right now trying to get a handle of SL because I hate his style of posting but again that doesn't make him mafia. Reading Horn of Africa to compare his posting here to his town posting style and see if it matches.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 25 2015 22:15 GMT
#930
Eh fuck it

##Vote: artanis[xp]

At least my vote's on someone I think is mafia.

I don't like Wave, yamato, or Kelsier as lynches. They've been some of the most active people in the thread for the last 24 hours. Plus I was townreading Wave and yamato early on. Kelsier has been a lot better today than a lot of other people, which is unfortunate if he's mafia, but completely town's own fault.

I don't know why sicklucker town read me but I don't think it makes him mafia. He was super nonchalant about it, like I believed he believed it. Especially since it was for... not the best reasoning. I think mafia would try to provide a reason.

I've followed Eden's thought process just fine and she/he has no real reason to not lynch me.

The Shining is playing like she/he just finished reading Ace's mafia manifesto, which looks like how she/he played her last mafia game. I.E. Do as little as possible to not get lynched. (reminds me of when I nailed Ace for doing exactly this /nostalgiatear). I'd lynch the fuck out of her.

Tornak and Tormented are 'eh', to steal yamato's phrase. Could be mafia in one of them but Tornak is so sweet and innocent and calls me Scarfs which is so cute I couldn't possibly lynch him. Tormented... eh. Still think he could be mafia, but if artanis is, then he probably isn't.

Damdred, probably town. Though his waiting for Tormented to make a case on me before deciding himself has points against him.

Probulous... not sure. He's done his giant reads posts in the past in order to make himself towny. I think he falls off a bit though if he's mafia so I'd give him a pass for now.

Eden... dunno. Seems intelligent, which means hard to read.

Node has only Wave's point going for him, which is 'why would mafia say something so dumb'. But if you've been around awhile, maybe as mafia you just post whatever you want and let people think exactly like Wave does. I'd still lynch him.

So ya, artanis, The Shining, maybe Tormented, maybe Node.

Unfortunately in that list, only Tormented had pressure of any sorts on them. That's where I stand.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 22:28 GMT
#931
This is good shit right here.

So for anyone in void mafia, go look up the game if you like. liancourt came in and said SL should be lynched. here is the response from SL that game

On January 21 2015 00:00 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:52 Vivax wrote:
You then proceeded to say bats was scummy from the vivax/marv interaction but have "given him a free pass" by not talking about him like you complained people were doing with lian.


I just asked SL for a read on bats and he dodged the question.


No im making a list post you baddies. I dont know whats going on the the most productive thing is to give my reads.

Holyflare - No strong read. Could be either Ive seen him push stupid mislynches as town before

Damdred - Had the same idea to presure marv as two town (me and vivax)

batsnacks - Not thinking for himself leaning scum

liancourt - Policy lynching giving 0 reads and afking. Scum

Vivax - Playing identical from are last game I dont think something this wild can be duplicated as mafia.

Half the Sky - I read her really well. And she is not being her town so far. But Ive jumped the gun on that before want to see more like asap or lynch.

VayneAuthority - Tried to stop a mislynch on him last game lead by liancourt, oats and bats. Lets see his day2 this time.
Wile E. Coyote - Who the hell is he? I dont know he uses big words and is burying me so leaning scum.

Oatsmaster - being his normal null self. Would not lynch

Marvellosity - Obv town never lynch when he mislynches me today

KelsierSC - Similiar ideas reading town.



So we see here that his default when he is mafia and gets called out is to say. you have no reads and you call me mafia, so you are mafia.

let's look at his play this game.

On February 25 2015 06:15 sicklucker wrote:
And ksc is scummy for wanting to lynch two towns. (One that didnt do anything..) And two newbs


omgus, thinks im mafia because I called him mafia.

His main accusation against me.

On February 26 2015 01:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 26 2015 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Ugh fair enough.

I thought you beez in the trap

## unvote

##vote Yamato77



I dont think sl is policy. My case on him isn't policy at all.

Plus you yourself gave an example of his town mentality and I just displayed something that was opposed to that.

Dont pull "oh its policy" bullshit when my case is the realest

I don't think Damdred's capable of posting as much as he is now as mafia.

I also don't think you did. Town SL can easily make a post that he thinks is accidentally very townie, then decide (as he has so far) not to give much more of a shit for the rest of the day to compensate. It'd actually fit in his thought process there. He's null to me and I'm not sure there's much that can sway me on him in either direction.

Since no one wants to vote Tormented I'll park my vote on Yamato as well. He's made one case on Tormented which he backed off from when a question mark pushed the same suspect, he's asked a bunch of questions that didn't lead to anything, and he's been flinging unsubstantiated suspicions at me all game long whilst complaining about how the thread's evolving.

##Vote Yamato77


Good read dandred is 100% town. But unlike dandred kels has a history of spewing mafia on day1 (see Christmas carol) He wants to kill two towns (me and dandred) and the two other easy newb lynches. He has like 0 town reads


again saying I have 0 reads.

Seems strikingly similar
Zerg for Life
_Tormented_
Profile Joined February 2015
United States157 Posts
February 25 2015 22:30 GMT
#932
Sigh...that post does seem rather towny. I do agree with your opinion of artanis, but I believe someone posted that he usually does tunnel someone they think is scum. So the fact that he provided very little else to the entire D1 could possibly be explained with that.
The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 22:31 GMT
#933
On February 26 2015 07:09 Tronak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 07:05 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 26 2015 07:03 Tronak wrote:
On February 26 2015 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
if you people think wave is scummy you should put my balls where your mouth is and vote him.



What do you think about Wave?


lol I have no fucking idea.


Was hoping for you to put some weight in tbh. I am starting to believe in Eden's push on him (sorry Eden if that doesnt permit you close your case on him).



if you believe in the push then you can go vote for wave.

you already think i'm mafia right so my input shouldn't really be important to you.
Zerg for Life
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
February 25 2015 22:36 GMT
#934
From this game
On February 25 2015 06:00 sicklucker wrote:
Snarfs had the best opening. Dandred is posting too much to be mafia. I would sheep dandred

From HoA
On February 04 2015 09:27 sicklucker wrote:
From reading like 3 pages

Marv - town for posting
eden town for presuring
koshi town for saying he wont do anything

KSC Case
On February 25 2015 08:53 KelsierSC wrote:
...
so i'm like ok maybe i'm not sure. let's step back , he's a fool. let's see what he does. Since I stepped back we get...Nothing. He doesn't give a shit about this. Just two shit tier town reads.

On February 26 2015 02:04 KelsierSC wrote:
So you have already explained why you had a "townie" opener. And drew attention to "towny " posts but artanis says you like to be unreadable. Is artanis lying.about your play then?

On February 26 2015 02:07 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 02:06 sicklucker wrote:
Thats his opinion its not a terrible one but I dont think its correct.

So artanis is lying about your play. Why?

So from the above SL style seems pretty consistent to me. Talk shit, be straight and generally don't give a fuck. But it's meta which for me is pretty useless unless I played with person.
KSC, is there anything else to your case?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
February 25 2015 22:37 GMT
#935
ROFL, nice timing
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 25 2015 22:37 GMT
#936
On February 26 2015 07:30 _Tormented_ wrote:
Sigh...that post does seem rather towny. I do agree with your opinion of artanis, but I believe someone posted that he usually does tunnel someone they think is scum. So the fact that he provided very little else to the entire D1 could possibly be explained with that.

I just really dislike that I need to go back and read to figure out who he thinks is scum. If he was tunneling I'm pretty sure I'd know off the top of my head. I think it was yamato?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 25 2015 22:39 GMT
#937
On February 26 2015 07:37 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 07:30 _Tormented_ wrote:
Sigh...that post does seem rather towny. I do agree with your opinion of artanis, but I believe someone posted that he usually does tunnel someone they think is scum. So the fact that he provided very little else to the entire D1 could possibly be explained with that.

I just really dislike that I need to go back and read to figure out who he thinks is scum. If he was tunneling I'm pretty sure I'd know off the top of my head. I think it was yamato?

Quick scan of filter, confirming: a) not tunneling. b) is voting yamato.
_Tormented_
Profile Joined February 2015
United States157 Posts
February 25 2015 22:40 GMT
#938
On February 26 2015 07:37 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 07:30 _Tormented_ wrote:
Sigh...that post does seem rather towny. I do agree with your opinion of artanis, but I believe someone posted that he usually does tunnel someone they think is scum. So the fact that he provided very little else to the entire D1 could possibly be explained with that.

I just really dislike that I need to go back and read to figure out who he thinks is scum. If he was tunneling I'm pretty sure I'd know off the top of my head. I think it was yamato?


He piggy backed off of yamatos' vote on me and then proceeded to continually try and push for my lynch and never providing much useful information for anyone else.
The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 22:40 GMT
#939
On February 26 2015 07:36 Probulous wrote:
From this game
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 06:00 sicklucker wrote:
Snarfs had the best opening. Dandred is posting too much to be mafia. I would sheep dandred

From HoA
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 09:27 sicklucker wrote:
From reading like 3 pages

Marv - town for posting
eden town for presuring
koshi town for saying he wont do anything

KSC Case
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 08:53 KelsierSC wrote:
...
so i'm like ok maybe i'm not sure. let's step back , he's a fool. let's see what he does. Since I stepped back we get...Nothing. He doesn't give a shit about this. Just two shit tier town reads.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 02:04 KelsierSC wrote:
So you have already explained why you had a "townie" opener. And drew attention to "towny " posts but artanis says you like to be unreadable. Is artanis lying.about your play then?

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 02:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 26 2015 02:06 sicklucker wrote:
Thats his opinion its not a terrible one but I dont think its correct.

So artanis is lying about your play. Why?

So from the above SL style seems pretty consistent to me. Talk shit, be straight and generally don't give a fuck. But it's meta which for me is pretty useless unless I played with person.
KSC, is there anything else to your case?


he hasn't responded properly to my accusation about Artanis.

Is Artanis lying about his play, if so, why is he not more suspicous of Artanis.
if Artanis is telling the truth why is he not playing his town style.
No response to this.

Every time I remove pressure from him he disappeears

two shit tier town reads and calls me mafia because I read him as mafia.

His reaction is consistent from the Void game when he is mafia, this probably isn't useful to you.




Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 22:41 GMT
#940
I'm basically going to give this SL thing another 20 minutes and if people think it's just a sack of shit then i'll drop it and decide what I want to do.

Zerg for Life
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