EPTThat last point I posted makes me lean mafia if I had to choose.
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Snarfs
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That last point I posted makes me lean mafia if I had to choose. | ||
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Tronak
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On February 25 2015 02:27 Snarfs wrote: Tronak I hope that answers your question as well. Thanks it does. On February 25 2015 02:27 Snarfs wrote: As for my willingness to follow Yamato against Tormented, let's remember there are 10 town and 3 mafia. My opinion is that of the people talking last night when the game started, maybe only 1 will actually turn out to be mafia, posssssssibly 2, but we need more posts to determine that. Tormented is a better candidate than Damdred, imo. Aha clear also, so both would be possible suspicious for you until now. Just one more than the other. | ||
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Damdred
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yamato77
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WaveofShadow
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Tronak
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On February 25 2015 02:57 Snarfs wrote: Tronak, you left Node off your list. Your thoughts please? Actually some points: -He pointed out before me the scummy sense of your RNG voting post. Since I had same, "maybe" unexperienced, reading while i was reading your post, my first impression was to feel aligned with him, therefore should be townie to my eyes. -About voting on you so directly = since he posted that his reason was just a "grain of salt" I suspect is just a move to push you = townie again to get information about you. - Recently he pushes agressively Damdred which I can only applaud since I look forward for more information about this last one. (to my eyes this should be townie post again, or.... could be mafia move to save Tormented, in case he is mafia). | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2015 03:15 WaveofShadow wrote: How do you feel about his case? Did it improve on yours at all? Do you feel. More convinced now? Not very convincing, and he doesn't stick around to legitimize it either. ehhhhhhhh | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 24 2015 15:53 Damdred wrote: I never threw any shit honestly I think Hts is scum, Eden is potential scum based off of meta at this point. There are always two sides of giving someone a chance they give you more evidence to help secure a lynch, or they come in and proove they are town. HTS is a very capable town player, sometimes she gets tricked but still a good player. Very capable of looking town with original thoughts. So why can't their be town motivation in making sure I don't get tunneled on something hours into a game when Hts hasn't even broken a page quite yet, bit has said some questionable things. Oh and I meant to comment on this last night: There can be town motivation in not getting tunneled but where exactly was that transition? Where did it strike you that you shouldn't be tunneling? I'm still not. Following where/why super confident town damdred just stops and says 'Oh wait, maybe he's isn't super scum like I've been saying all game.' Also yamato as far as peacing out you did the same as I was talking to you last night. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 25 2015 03:18 yamato77 wrote: Not very convincing, and he doesn't stick around to legitimize it either. ehhhhhhhh This is the second time you just 'ehhhhh' something. I am disappoint, sir, we are supposed to be blasting the scum out of their hidey-holes. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On February 24 2015 22:21 Tronak wrote: + Show Spoiler + After re-reading all, Going to throw some open questions and my thinkings about them: 1) Snarfs, why would you suggest a RNG voting being town and a veteran player? Either was a simple way to make fellow townies show up them selves or in my newbie opinion should be read as a scummy post. 2) Artanis' opening: why would you introduce Mayors voting if game setup is given? Opening joke? Mayor is usually a starting point and you didnt read game setup? This follows another game? If not, I would read your post as mafia. If yes, is -Yamato quickly (1min later) votes for lyching Artanis . And Mayor joke appears again. Why? I can only read 2 mafias trying to create confusion, but I would be happy to hear what you both think about this. 3) Tormented throws his bomb list. Want to think, Tormented thought similar to me (above) and when pressured by Artanis to give his reads made a quick list pointing out both names (Artanis and Yamato). Would mafia do this? I dont think so, it was too early from my point of view, too much to lose. 4) Probulous accuses Damdred: I like Probolous' read and arguments given against Damdred so much that when I first read his post all my senses were focused on analysing Damdred's following posts. Up to this point, I think Probolous wins the mini batle and Damdred will need to give futher arguments to convince me about his alignment. 5) Yamato appears again to switch completly thread's focus and focus on Tormented again giving good arguments based on filtered history. Snarfs looks like aproving this switch very fast and Artanis pushes this line further in his last post. If Yamato/Snarf or Artanis were mafia, would they like to lynch a "tormented" townie and use this line to save a suspected Damdred? Sure! Conclusion: despite all guides about Mafia I have read suggest scum wouldn't be so active in the first hours of the game, from my point of view so far, all makes me think that at least 1 or 2 scums must be between the list of names mentioned in this post (with no exceptions). However I can't arrive to single point any of them and the innocents should also be very valuable for the town. I see the names not mentioned in this post as townies so far. So, I hope your answers for my wall of text clear my way. I think you're putting far too much thought in early game banter. The mayor stuff was trolling around, something similar happens at the start of just about every game. On February 25 2015 00:26 _Tormented_ wrote: Artanis, you asked for a read and I have a quick list on what I was currently feeling. I want about to sit there and give percentages on every person while I was late leaving from work. I know I am town, therefore I obviously have serious questionmarks about you and yamato. My point is that you committed to reads on everyone but me and Eden. What discerns your paranoia on me and Eden from the rest of your list? What makes us more "null" and why did you choose that wording rather than no clue which you used for others? On February 25 2015 01:48 Node wrote: Oops, second sentence in first paragraph should read: You've quoted none of the people you say are suspicious, you haven't engaged any of them directly, and you're straight-up refusing to commit to anything, even as you push multiple targets. You've said you don't think Damdred is scum, yet you seem to call everything he does suspicious. What's going on here? On February 25 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote: Art is probably town, i think the case and other thoughts show a clear progression of thought and actions. Seems to be helping the thread somewhat, town pile for today. What'd you actually think of the case? On February 25 2015 03:13 yamato77 wrote: I don't particularly like that artanis dropped his case and then peaced out. hm. No one posted for an hour, I like having conversations so I just left and hoped people would reply to the actual case when I got back. You people are a disappointment. On February 25 2015 03:18 yamato77 wrote: Not very convincing, and he doesn't stick around to legitimize it either. ehhhhhhhh Oh the ironing | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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I also want more comments on my case. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Damdred, you were here when I posted. What are your thoughts on the case? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 25 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote: I never said that Hts wasn't super scum just that Hts needed to do more. You are totally misrepresenting it. If I went shops not scum at that point its one thing, but me screaming scum in the thread what 5 hours into the game with almost no real information besides a few wonky posts and meta understanding of people doesn't help the thread and helps bury hood conversation If he's super scum and youre super confident of it, what more does he need to do? Isn't your job to be convincing us of it if you're that confident? You're being completely contradictory in your words and actions here. Furthermore now you're downplaying your own scumread. | ||
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Eden1892
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On February 25 2015 01:44 Node wrote: OMGUS harder, why don't you? It's a little annoying how one of the default responses to criticism is "did you even READ?" I read your filter. You've quoted none of the people you say are suspicious, you haven't engaged any of them directly, and you're straight. A key tell for a mafia is indecisiveness, and what people are picking up on isn't that you're backing off on your reads, it's that they were barely there to begin with. It's as if they were practically set up just to be backed off of later, or inconsequential enough that you wouldn't have to follow through. Here's what I'm talking about: Now, I want to make it clear that I don't think you're scum. Yet. (a blatant OMGUS isn't helping) But I do think your posts have done little more than gum up the thread. It's one thing to call my post "interesting" and start to get people thinking about me. It's another to actually say what I did was scummy and why. RNG was so pure. This post bleeds red to me Something about the sequence here reads "let me make several arguments for why you're mafia and then say that I don't suspect you but leave the door open for doing so later" | ||
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Eden1892
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On February 25 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also Snarfs, that's the second time you're asking someone for an opinion on me without giving your own. What's up buddy? I also want more comments on my case. I can vote for that case | ||
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