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On February 19 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game. Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions. Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me. Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game. Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before. Null: Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad. VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him. That's a goddamn huge list for so early into the game. It also seems to be only based on activity, nothing else. All arguments for people being town seem vague like its their purpose. Like reasoning for geript being town? He asks some good questions. If not all, which ones then? Why are they good? Snickers reasoning is based on him being serious and geript called him out on flip-flopping on his attitude already, so how does that work? Oats has done nothing than to suggest an IRC meeting (which worked quite well in Arkham Asylum although I claimed to Palmar, the third party - Joker quite fast >_>) I also don't see this interest in Liancourt. As for Eden I totally don't understand the reasoning. LS, you got ripped off on the Weekly Mafia Fair, should've brought gold coin with you, not lead coin. ##vote LightningStrike Geript's given me good vibes. He seems totes relaxed which makes me both happy and unnerved; I really expected him to at some point of conversation with Snickers to shout out "WHERE IS EVERYONE?". Snickers seems genuine though. I shall reiterate: geript righteously called him out on changing his temper but I believe that's just the case of overconfidence. For now. Eden was present for a long time from the very start and did not seem to be engaged in Snickers-Geript convo till later, which I find scummy. It is as if he feared getting involved at that point, because that'd put him in too much of a spotlight. He also wishes for people to PM him instead keeping his bone-box shut and doing it himself. Another person behaving suspiciously considering PMs is Koshi who wants people to post their "good PM logs" after "they're finished". Why? Why do you need this information? People converse privately to withdraw information from Mafia, why would they publish it? Why do you care? | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:51 liancourt wrote: there must be an alternative to quicktopic. I cba to proxy everytime i want to talk. What's the point of proxy? | ||
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Tell me Snickers, didn't you feel that geript asking you questions was like through a glass? With some distance? Like they were comfy questions and had little to no follow-up? | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:10 Snickers wrote: I am really dumb. What are you implying kurumi? Don't you think that his questions were merely to be there and did not look for any follow-up? Don't you think the reaction was too soft for the amount of questioning happening (and negative attitude towards your towniness)? | ||
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I told you he gave me good vibes, yes? I noted that his style was weird though, correct? I've gotten hold on new information. Geript seems to be soft-pushing Snickers. He asked you about your read on him. My initial concerns have proven to be true, my initial good will is eclipsed by such observation. | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:39 Snickers wrote: Was your concern that I was mafia or was your concern that geript was mafia? My main concern was that you are both Mafia. I know now that it is close to impossible to be as such. Your behaviour has not struck me as weird in opposition to geript's behaviour. He was 'off'. He was right, but 'off'. It reminds me of Ace going on Kavdragon, Kavdragon flipping and flopping as Town and Mafia Ace using that to push him relentlessly for the entire day. @Koshi I never said that Snickers is Mafia in qt. I only said that the convo between him and geript seems unnatural. | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:45 Koshi wrote: Ok fine. Now explain to me why Snickers is town. The guy has yet to call somebody mafia. His first post was something I don't understand. The next 5 posts were him defending himself against geript. Doing that pretty poorly as I pointed out. calling geript mafia but not really. In his latest return he made a blob of words saying nothing. Tell me why geript isn't voting for Snickers if the reason for people to vote for Snickers is his interaction with geript. Tell me why geript is fishing interest in voting Snickers. It doesn't sound well, doesn't it? You have played with geript. He is a guy that will stick to a person and never let go if he thinks that is the right thing to do. He is interested in lynching Snickers but is not really leading the lynch. Get me? | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:47 Snickers wrote: Can you elaborate on the bolded part? Why is it impossible? What do you mean that he was off? What is he right about? Also if you think it would be beneficial explain your quick topics. Why did you start them? Is there a specific number of them? I am in one with you and two others so I assuming there is four main ones. How did you choose which people go into which quick topic. Geript is a direct guy. That's how he rolls. He acquires a target and then runs that target to the ground. Here he got a target and started to push others to roll the target over. He was right that you were losing your confidence steam. Same story as with Kavdragon in PYP:I. There are five quicktopics as names suggest. The people I picked were pretty much random, it depends on how well I know a person. I started them before the game even began. | ||
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On February 20 2015 07:03 Snickers wrote: Ok were they distributed before the game began? You could of formed them and then not send them out to people correct? I think they lead to a null read. And i disagree about the whole confidence thing. Waste of time to try and convince you of that so lets just drop it. Thanks for informing me. I could not distribute them before the game began. I distribtuted them around 30 minutes before my first post. | ||
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We're going 88 miles per hour ![[image loading]](http://www.hittingthestage.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/lloyd-back-to-the-future-1024x576.jpg) I know, this is quite unexpected. Arkham Asylum was a great game. It really was dark and gritty, full of great plays, awesome with Palmar's Joker comics by the end of the game. Our game-wide IRC convos. Two threads at once both being very important to be a part of. There was a guy called notasmurf. Notasmurf has devised a great plan. Plan I have reused. Plan I believe has worked once again. Say hello to Operation Honeypot. I have set up five quicktopics before the game started. I would've used them differently as scum but it wasn't as sharp as the town version. Only one of them had four people including me, rest was three including me. Two quicktopics have been compromised. Those two are: VisceraEyes, LightiningStrike and geript, Oatsmaster. In both of them there is one person that should not get an access to the QT. Snickers never accessed his to my knowledge. Showtime boys. Why were you sharing QTs with anyone? I don't care that there are three of you and I have only one too much. Maybe your partner is Onegu, who has not accessed my qt either. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:01 Eden1892 wrote: The compromising-QTs thing is pretty cool, but I have a feeling it's not going to lead anywhere. I won't say why until it doesn't though, because if you did catch someone, I don't want to give them an out. Boy, believe me it is legit. I have two Internet connections at hand and four devices. Enough to test it again myself - and you can guess that I did so. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:19 geript wrote: @Kurumi. I actually don't believe any of that shit. I'm pretty sure it's BS too. Because I literally just created a QT and then sent myself access through my PM so I could easily access it on my phone. I didn't even post from my phone in that QT. Both register as separate unique views AND I haven't given that test QT to anyone. Like anyone could set this up and check it for themselves. I'm pretty sure that operation honeypot was a complete failure at best because I know that the Oats/me QT hasn't been compromised at all now. As for VE/LS, IDK but I'm pretty sure LS has played from phone in the past (could check but lazy) so it wouldn't surprise me that. It would depend on the number of unique views potentially, but I know for sure that since me/oats/you QT only has 4 unique views I don't see how that's comprimised. I know I've accessed and posted from my phone to that QT. Are you logged in on quicktopic on your phone? | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:25 geript wrote: Yes to both. I've been logged in on my phone since forever. Interesting. I have checked it two ways - one accidental, other on purpose. I checked another qt from my phone - without logging in. Then I logged in and some time later I logged on my PC with qt account ready. There was another person in the qt - there were 3 Unique views. I wanted to recreate this situation but I dun goofed and was logged in on my phone - I had only 1 unique view. When I grabbed a second PC and did not log in I got the view. Logging in after that has not changed anything. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:28 Koshi wrote: It doesn't say you are an other user if you are logged in. Because I read the QT at work and at home. And ours wasn't infiltrated. True. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:34 geript wrote: idk. maybe I wasn't actually signed in it just let me post under my name without being signed in. All I know is that it took my phone and computer as 2 unique views in the qt I created. Like there are a million ways to test this. Even still, the important question has been unanswered as of yet. Kurumi, why didn't you wait for more than +1 unique view? Won't get more if Onegu, who is afk, is scum. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote: This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling. If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:50 geript wrote: Except that I know that's not true. I literally have done this twice now and it's worked exactly opposite for me "What we found out is that for every registered visitor that views the forum, a visitor is counted. This gives us a new statistic that we should consider. The Registered Users statistic. This is (unique visitors) – (unregistered Visitors)." We had 4 registered users. 0 unregistered. So 4 unique accounts. | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote: At any rate, it wasn't me because I told rayn in private that I suspected that you might be doing something like this like as soon as you sent me the link. Why would I share it with my scumbuddies KNOWING what you're looking for (having been in the game in question)? Why did you tell him for all that is divine?! | ||
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On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote: Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name. So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_- | ||
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On February 20 2015 09:06 geript wrote: Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this? Because if I am correct I have two scum outed already and I don't really care for the third right now? Like how hard can it be to kill a third scum after killing two of them in first two cycles? | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WLOmV1y.png) Dude, like no way. I was logged on both phone and PC before doing anything. As you can see I used 3 devices and 2 Internet connections. There should be at least two unique viewers if it looks at IP (if my play Internet gives another IP for the phone, it should be three) instead of registered user. | ||
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On February 20 2015 09:38 geript wrote: Except that this is complete bullshit. You haven't outed any scum. You've essentially said there's 2 mafia (1 each) between me/oats and VE/LS. Except that that also doesn't exclude you. I for a fact know the "extra" unique id from my qt was me. You've literally done nothing to argue or point against that. Like I literally will provide the QT here: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/8hg9EDZSFaLF You've kept on pushing this complete BS despite the fact that it should be fucking obvious to you that at most 1 of the threads isn't comprimised. So the only possibility is that there are 2 mafia in that QT, you're just fucking wrong or you're mafia. Like literally nothing has excluded you from creating an extra unique ID in the VE/LS thread. You're literally completely bullshitting. I'd put money that, until this post, none of the QTs were comprimised. You've done nothing to try and point out how any of this shit actually has outed any mafia. Yet you keep pushing it as mafia. No fuck that. You die. ##kurumi Okay Mr. Fancypants, I could've generated 5 additional IDs just by registering more accounts, put the blame on someone from the QT and nobody would budge. Then I'd deflect just like you 'oh right I was using my phone, my pc, different internet, my grandma's pc with different internet'. Problem freaking is that I actually did all those things and in a different qt it registered a unique viewer only once - when I was not logged on. So you are really not understanding this properly man. | ||
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On February 20 2015 19:10 sicklucker wrote: Kurimu did anyone access are qt? Even after lian accidentally leaked it? Right now it seems Koshi did. Lian did not really leak it - I pmed him about it and he told me that he removed one of the letters. I told him that someone crafty enough could still play with the link and find out the correct link; though unlikely it is good to include such possibility. His leaking though was a neat trick - if it would leak quickly afterwards we could push somebody in our circle. Maybe somebody would cave in saying that the link was in the thread anyway and it was just the matter of putting it in the address bar of a browser and bam - the address was wrong, you shared the qt without asking us, you are doing some sketchy stuff. @geript and Oats The Operation Honeypot was wrong. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EvM4qG5.png) Why did you not care to check it from the very basis Kurumi? Well, they checked the most vital thing: Can you generate an registered unique view using only one account? Their answer was no. Their answer was wrong. That was a good spin on Operation Honeypot and my love for it. Now back to the game. VE I'll ask you again: why did you talk about Operation Honeypot with rayn so early into the game? What was your source of confidence that rayn is not scum? Bollocks is I don't have much time right now and I really need to manage it, so that's all I can do for now - ditch my own plan, great. | ||
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Can somebody care to remind me why geript never called me scum from turning the thread from Snickers off to something really different? Like that'd be grand play if I were Mafia with Snickers but nobody seems to think so. Stir the beehive up and leave Town to scramble with the bees. I have not been PMed by anyone this game period. I've been only in contact through QTs, one of which rayn started (didn't trust Onegu... or rather was unsettled by his unpresentful presence...) Anyway, I'll try to dig whatever I can from Eden's and rayn's filters, after that I'll look into voting patters. | ||
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On February 24 2015 01:24 VisceraEyes wrote: No he said he had the QT's already made before he got his role, which I believe because it's Kurumi. I think he intended to actually do Operation Honeypot if he'd rolled town maybe. The point is he hasn't done ANYTHING else. He gave a few early reads but that was all trumped by his QT play, which fizzled out, and now he's not doing anything some more. Mafia. To supplement that, rayn the townie was nightkilled after suggesting Kurumi should be the lynch D2, and geript the townie with this dying breath condemned Kurumi. He's going to be a question mark all game and mafia aren't going to touch him if he's town, but I don't think he's town so let's lynch him. Okay I haven't slept for 24hours already but I guess my brand is living up to itself. I wasn't present when rayn accused me. Look at my filter, it should be pretty clear I can't devote that much time as you can guys. Rayn was a kill because nobody called him scum and it seemed like he had tons of information and influence - in what world will you not kill him? If his plan worked out he was more concerned with Cop being alive than himself. Rightly so I guess. I can't do much. I need sleep. All I know is that Snickers is Town, I know that I did fire up Operation Honeypot a little too early because of Snickers being urightfully pushed. Operation Honeypot was never meant to give "that one mafia" but rather give something akin to a listcheck. I wouldn't touch Oats, Koshi is playing his Town game (and he's a lot calmer than I remember him being). I'll put my vote on LS. See you in like another 24h. | ||
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