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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:00 VisceraEyes wrote: No there's no point in teh COP outting a green check. Outting it by proxy does us no harm at all. Thats not what he means. They have a godfather | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 23 2015 09:59 geript wrote: You're right. Why would anyone ever bus. Because there's literally nothing to be gained from busing ever under any circumstances. Like geript you keep making the argument that "It's possible for scum to bus SO KOSHI BUSSED" when you should be looking at what is most likely. There's like nothing you've said that makes it more likely that Koshi busses rather than lynch a townie on D1. Like, nothing at all. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On February 23 2015 08:36 Koshi wrote: He is calling me mafia while I solo lynched Eden. I made the case, I pushed the case, I made rayn sheep me on TS. Like... Imagine me doing that as mafia. kk If geript is town he is trash. So in 24h we will know if he is mafia or trash. None of those are welcome in my town. It makes more sense then having a fake convo with your scum partner | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:02 sicklucker wrote: Thats not what he means. They have a godfather I know what he meant. I know they have a Godfather, that doesn't make the Cop useless until D3. It just makes the cop slightly less effective, and makes the "Follow the Cop" thing not viable. It doesn't mean we just ignore everything he gets until we lynch the Godfather and can be SURE the checks are 100% accurate. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:08 sicklucker wrote: Like ya ok im on your side for that. I already told koshi this. But kurimis off the table for now Why though? If you are now thinking geript is town then why is Kurumi off the table? Koshi told ME the green check is on someone else so.....someone somewhere is lying about something. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
Koshi is in contact with roles and he doesint want him dead lets just leave it at that. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:11 sicklucker wrote: Is he? Well I think know why koshi lied about that its pretty transparent but I wont speculate. Koshi is in contact with roles and he doesint want him dead lets just leave it at that. It's probably something more along the lines of "I'm gonna tell X Y and Z that X is the green check and A B and C that C is the green check and see which one dies" but at any rate, we shouldn't be taking anyone off the table. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote: I know what he meant. I know they have a Godfather, that doesn't make the Cop useless until D3. It just makes the cop slightly less effective, and makes the "Follow the Cop" thing not viable. It doesn't mean we just ignore everything he gets until we lynch the Godfather and can be SURE the checks are 100% accurate. No my point is that there's no reason to ever out a single green check. It will 100% skew town's view on the matter regardless. Like there's literally only 1 person who can be redchecked. The role isn't useless but it's highly unlikely to gather any sort of useful information until you have mulitple checks where you can say multiple of these people have to be town. So as a group, their opinions are likely honest. There's not a point because greenchecks make it harder for town to find actual opinions on people. As for why it has to be koshi. He was lynched with 4 fucking people on his wagon!!!! Not even lynched by 33% of the people in the game. Like that's really, really absurd. I've played for a while and I don't think I've ever seen such a thing happen. Next look at the arguments he's making. I admitted on TS multiple times, multiple times that Koshi's points were reasonable. Quite good even. The difference though is that no one else had really spoken to him. Not you. Not Koshi, Not Rayn. No one. I had more information than any of you and I was wrong. That's not the point though. Who picked out all of this little stuff that no one else did, not you, not rayn, not me. Who else got all those important little things but is now wholly incapable of finding anything that makes me town? Like there's literally no way to ever think I'm mafia in this game. Like it's incomprehensible that I'm being pushed. Like Koshi's meta'd Snickers; he's looked at other people's meta too IIRC. But he's pushed to lynch me without in any way looking at my meta. Without in any way reasonably looking at Kurumi's meta. Without in any way reasonably looking at Kurumi when I'm a good player and have good pushes quite often. Like how does that make sense? Like, this is Koshi's townplay? Really? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote: And geript is still ignoring my very simple questions so I'm still of the opinion that he's mafia making shit up. So my vote stands. So you're still either god awful or mafia. I don't care. Lynch me. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Why though? If you are now thinking geript is town then why is Kurumi off the table? Koshi told ME the green check is on someone else so.....someone somewhere is lying about something. Of course koshi was lying about the green check. If I had to guess, the green check is on me. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On February 23 2015 07:25 geript wrote: So who's scum again Koshi? Tell me I'm scum. Because you're totally getting lynched after me. Like there's literally no way you ever could think I'm mafia. There's literally no reason to say that you didn't know about this conversation. Because I'm pretty sure I've pm'd you about it specifically. I know I've talked with Rayn and VE and You about this specific interaction. Like does anyone think that town!Koshi makes an argument saying that I don't have a fucking 1.5-2 hr conversation with somebody on the fucking when I literally told him, that his brother asked who he was talking to, or the fact that I knew he went to work because he mentioned it, or the fact that I knew that he went to UCLA, or the fact that I knew that he had trouble reading liancourt. Like, town!Koshi doesn't make any such shitty argument saying, "I don't believe that conversation ever happened." You know why, because even as mafia, I don't lie about that shit. Like that's worse than shit tier and Koshi doesn't start any argument based off of that. You know who thought Eden was mafia, yet never once talked about trying to PM him or contact him or anything else. Koshi. You know why? Because his argument changed around whatever various things. In the end it was, "He's around but he isn't doing anything so he's clearly mafia." But why didn't Koshi ever fucking try to pm, or skype, or anything with Eden. It's because they're fucking mafia partners. Ez bus is real. Rayn just sheeped Koshi D1 because he was sure that there was 1 mafia between SL and Eden. Exactly 1 mafia between the two. Koshi said the same thing, multiple times. Now he's sure that SL is mafia too. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. What reasoning has he provided for his change in reads on SL? None. What's Koshi accusing me of doing? Not narrowing down my reads at all. Not taking a look at things in the light of new evidence. Who's reads haven't changed in the light of new evidence? Koshi. He's still pushing SL despite new evidence that in the least should get him to consider a different path. Who's pushing someone who's obviously fucking town? Koshi. Who's continuing to ignore scummy fucks who aren't doing anything who will 100% lose the game for town if they continue to go unflipped? Koshi. What's Koshi's reasoning for all this? Because he "thinks" someone who is fucking obviously fucking town is mafia. Bullshit. There's literally no way that town Koshi could be this bad. How has Koshi's read on Kurumi changed? He's literally repeatedly said that he doesn't think Kurumi is town. Really? You don't think he's town. Funny how every time he comes up you have a new reason not lynch him. A bullshit reason that I blow up. Like, "Oh Geript's case on Kurumi is all meta." Nope. Wrong bitch. It's only partly meta. And it's the hardest part of the case to explain because most people here are idiots and have no clue how to even fucking use meta right. Like Rayn tried to get me to call 2 of Kurumi's mafia games town games to trick me; but I fucking know kurumi's games and threw that shit right back in his face. You know why. Because he's fcuking terrible at meta. The greatest thing about it is that both mafia games taht he presented I didn't even play it. Like Koshi's whole excuse for Kurumi is that he "blew his wad too early;" Funny, that's the exact same excuse that Eden used. The thing is Kurumi's wad, doesn't prove anything. It doesn't differentiate in any way between mafia sharing the QT or town sharing the QT. It's a push that isn't designed to do anything except make it look like he's making a push. It's a push that literally has not shot of going anywhere except for saying that "one of these 5 players is potentially mafia." Something that only fucking idiots didn't already know. You know what Koshi's excuse for never looking at Kurumi seriously? Why bus the GF? So Koshi, why'd you bus the RB over the GF? Here sl. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:13 sicklucker wrote: Yes we should because one of snickers and kurimi is a role and the other is a green check. We dont know who and koshi wont tell us so we cant lynch either And Koshi's the one who supposedly knows who the cop is. The guy who bussed his partner. You don't think he'd in least help control who gets checked so it's in his favor? You don't think it's odd that Koshi is completely ignoring people who haven't contributed anything pretty much all game like Oats, Kurumi or Liancourt in favor of people who have at worst been semi-active? Like inactivity kills town. KILLS TOWN. And Koshi's most interested in killing people who aren't inactive in any way. Like Koshi's a person who's pointed out that Oats looked okay on D1 but he can still be mafia. He tends to fall off as mafia. He's obviously fallen off. How interested in Koshi in lynching Oats who's fallen off? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
WHAT about the vote logic makes it likely a bus? From my perspective it's the complete opposite. And WHY wasn't it a bus when you were talking about it earlier if it was so obviously a bus? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Neither of those are the person Koshi told me was the greencheck. I don't know what you think that means, but there it is. As far as /I/ know, neither of those people should be off the table. Yet Koshi isn't interested in lynching either. He's not interesting in lynching anyone who hasn't at least tried. He's not interested in lynching people who haven't said anything at all interesting. He's interested in lynching people who have. What does that tell you? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 23 2015 10:23 geript wrote: Yet Koshi isn't interested in lynching either. He's not interesting in lynching anyone who hasn't at least tried. He's not interested in lynching people who haven't said anything at all interesting. He's interested in lynching people who have. What does that tell you? I mean, his vote is CURRENTLY on LS...who is voting for you. And his vote WAS on you, who has done nothing but rage and call me bad for 2 days running. So in fairness, it doesn't tell me that he's mafia :/ | ||
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