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On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie.
This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling.
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On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie. This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling.
If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it.
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On February 20 2015 08:38 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:34 geript wrote:On February 20 2015 08:28 Koshi wrote:
It doesn't say you are an other user if you are logged in. Because I read the QT at work and at home. And ours wasn't infiltrated. idk. maybe I wasn't actually signed in it just let me post under my name without being signed in. All I know is that it took my phone and computer as 2 unique views in the qt I created. Like there are a million ways to test this. Even still, the important question has been unanswered as of yet. Kurumi, why didn't you wait for more than +1 unique view? Won't get more if Onegu, who is afk, is scum.
Except that's wholly incorrect. If your assumption that 1 of me/oats and 1 of VE/LS is mafia, then by creating more you actually get to localize whether it's me or oats and whether it's VE or LS creating the extra view.
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On February 20 2015 08:45 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote:On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie. This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling. If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it.
Except that I know that's not true. I literally have done this twice now and it's worked exactly opposite for me
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At any rate, it wasn't me because I told rayn in private that I suspected that you might be doing something like this like as soon as you sent me the link. Why would I share it with my scumbuddies KNOWING what you're looking for (having been in the game in question)?
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You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript.
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On February 20 2015 08:50 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:45 Kurumi wrote:On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote:On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie. This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling. If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it. Except that I know that's not true. I literally have done this twice now and it's worked exactly opposite for me
"What we found out is that for every registered visitor that views the forum, a visitor is counted.
This gives us a new statistic that we should consider. The Registered Users statistic. This is (unique visitors) – (unregistered Visitors)."
We had 4 registered users. 0 unregistered. So 4 unique accounts.
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Just figure this shit out.
VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting.
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On February 20 2015 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
At any rate, it wasn't me because I told rayn in private that I suspected that you might be doing something like this like as soon as you sent me the link. Why would I share it with my scumbuddies KNOWING what you're looking for (having been in the game in question)?
Why did you tell him for all that is divine?!
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Kurumi you fucking fail. ...
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Post 14 was literally from my phone. I want you to provide access to me to the LS/VE QT so I can find any other random things there. If you had actually checked the QT you'd realize the difference. Send me access to the QT for VE/LS
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On February 20 2015 08:54 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:50 geript wrote:On February 20 2015 08:45 Kurumi wrote:On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote:On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie. This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling. If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it. Except that I know that's not true. I literally have done this twice now and it's worked exactly opposite for me "What we found out is that for every registered visitor that views the forum, a visitor is counted. This gives us a new statistic that we should consider. The Registered Users statistic. This is (unique visitors) – (unregistered Visitors)." We had 4 registered users. 0 unregistered. So 4 unique accounts.
Wait. 4 registered users? Ok. That is interesting then.
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On February 20 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote:
You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript.
Why the fuck should I put pressure on Oats when I fucking know that the extra unique is quite literally from my phone? Like WTF Koshi?
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Nha it is too late. gn all.
Keep calling each other mafia. And pray to jeebus Onegu comes and bleeds something.
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On February 20 2015 08:55 Koshi wrote:
Just figure this shit out.
VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting.
I did not, I've accessed the QT only on my home PC.
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On February 20 2015 08:56 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote:
You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript. Why the fuck should I put pressure on Oats when I fucking know that the extra unique is quite literally from my phone? Like WTF Koshi?
Ok. I didn't know that. Jeez.
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On February 20 2015 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:55 Koshi wrote:
Just figure this shit out.
VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting. I did not, I've accessed the QT only on my home PC.
Ok. Then LS must have used 2 devices. Let's see if he did.
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Like what Kurumi is saying is literally him being fucking lazy. That's why I'm pushing him. Like I'm not sure if I'm mad at him for spoiling something that could've been really fucking amazing, or if I'm certain he's scum because he's too fucking lazy to actually read an 18 post QT and look at it carefully.
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I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.
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Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.
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On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.
So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-
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