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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:04 GMT
#361
On February 20 2015 09:01 Koshi wrote:
I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.

Except that this is essentially Kurumi's push that someone has compromised the QT's and is a baddie and needs to be lynched. That this proves mafia in some way. But he's literally doing nothing to prove that of any sort. He didn't even take any further steps to identify the "leaking" member when doing that was like super easy.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 20 2015 00:04 GMT
#362
yeah I thought it was more than one unique view. If it's just one that really doesn't say much. Assuming Onegu is afk mafia and using that as a basis to spring the play is bad play.

I think it still makes Kurumi town though. I can see where, if he believes Onegu is afk mafia, it would make sense to him to spring it after one unique view. It's incorrect, but it doesn't make him mafia to me. And the sequence as a whole looks townie to me.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#363
oh lord this thread blew up
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#364
On February 20 2015 09:04 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:01 Koshi wrote:
I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.

Except that this is essentially Kurumi's push that someone has compromised the QT's and is a baddie and needs to be lynched. That this proves mafia in some way. But he's literally doing nothing to prove that of any sort. He didn't even take any further steps to identify the "leaking" member when doing that was like super easy.

I agree on that.
I had a good night of sleep.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:06 GMT
#365
On February 20 2015 09:03 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.

So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-

Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#366
On February 20 2015 09:06 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:03 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.

So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-

Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this?

Because if I am correct I have two scum outed already and I don't really care for the third right now? Like how hard can it be to kill a third scum after killing two of them in first two cycles?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#367
Here is something to read. I am now really off to bed. I don't know if I got something out of this conversation. Maybe Eden can say something interesting for a change.

+ Show Spoiler +

[23:32] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #LightningStrike
[23:32] <LightningStrike> What is it Koshi O_o
[23:33] <@Koshi> Nothing much
[23:33] <LightningStrike> I thought we had a different IRC channel for us to use lol
[23:33] <@Koshi> Since your list you haven't been doing much
[23:34] <LightningStrike> I been focusing on the other game I'm playing that hitting EOD in about 5.5 hours
[23:34] <LightningStrike> I mean EoN
[23:34] <@Koshi> Nothing much happening in this one though.
[23:34] <@Koshi> Want to play a game?
[23:34] <LightningStrike> Sure I guess
[23:34] <@Koshi> Coolio
[23:35] <@Koshi> You say a name, then I give my opinion on this person, then you give your opinion on this person. Then I say a name and we do the same
[23:35] <@Koshi> Just what pops in your mind.
[23:35] <LightningStrike> sicklucker
[23:36] <@Koshi> hmm damn. I think both rayn and eden make a good point that he was overly defensive when he said 'here we go again, again I get focussed day 1". Especially because nothing happened yet and only a vote was casted, no reason was yet given.
[23:37] <@Koshi> It shows that SL might have thought that town!rayn found something on him
[23:37] <@Koshi> Which is odd. Because as townie you don't assume that the person voting for you for no reason is town.
[23:38] <@Koshi> The case from rayn is not convincing me yet though. I agree that it is pretty lackluster from SL. But not definite mafia
[23:39] <LightningStrike> I find it hard to read sicklucker on Day 1 after I failed a meta read on him in Linux calling him Town instead of Mafia but you got a good point he been on the backfoot on defending himself
[23:39] <@Koshi> I think that is it.
[23:39] <LightningStrike> He could a power role for all we know
[23:40] <@Koshi> Maybe. But that shouldn't affect his play that much.
[23:40] <@Koshi> My turn: liancourt
[23:41] <LightningStrike> He seems meh in the thread at first I thought he had a ton of motivation this game but you got remember he's in South Korean right now so he's asleep atm.
[23:41] <LightningStrike> Korea
[23:42] <@Koshi> Is that it?
[23:43] <LightningStrike> Basically
[23:43] <@Koshi> It has nothing to do with what he already wrote :/
[23:44] <@Koshi> Haven't you already played a lot with him? I thought that you/LS/Lian came from the game newbies
[23:44] <LightningStrike> Going to recheck since I was to busy on doing something in the other game
[23:45] <LightningStrike> I had played with Lian in Carol, NYE Party, Linux, and I seen him play in Void.
[23:46] <@Koshi> Ok so what is he doing here? His early post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=7#133
[23:46] <@Koshi> Can you say what you think?
[23:48] <LightningStrike> I agree with Lian in that post since he's right that Snickers is outright refusing to use one of the towns biggest weapon in the game that is communcation outside of the thread and the fact that Snickers said to ignore meta is kind of weird tbh with you
[23:50] <LightningStrike> What's your take on it?
[23:52] <@Koshi> I don't know liancourt. That's why I am asking you.
[23:54] <LightningStrike> I see him doing that more as Town than Mafia but than again I had never played with Lian when he was Mafia (shrugs) but it shows he actually thinking about the game but he didn't really follow up much in the thread though
[23:55] <@Koshi> ...
[23:55] <@Koshi> So you never saw him play mafia but you think he wouldn't do it as mafia?
[23:58] <LightningStrike> He tried to get people to talk outside of the thread which is townie in my opinion given this is a outside communcation game and this my first time playing in such a game so I still new on this type of game mode. He also doesn't seem to follow up yet on the thread on Snickers although I make the same mistake as Town on not following up but I remember earlier that he said he was going to bed.
[23:59] <LightningStrike> So currently he's sleeping and he should be here later tonight for me.
[00:00] <@Koshi> hmmk.
[00:01] <@Koshi> Got a clue on who the 3 mafia are?
[00:01] <@Koshi> A guess?
[00:04] <LightningStrike> Okay my guess maybe Snickers, Sicklucker, and VE since you said that VE had given acess to the other QT somehow Sicklucker I had Null and Snickers is my weakest Town read
[00:06] <LightningStrike> What's your guess on the Mafia Team?
[00:21] <@Koshi> I don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 20 2015 00:11 GMT
#368
OK caught up, sorta. I still don't get the exact specifics of what happened, but it's still pretty evident to me that Kurumi is town and goofed his reveal. It's not impossible that he can do this as mafia but it's not something I see much compelling evidence for.

Eagerly awaiting Oats's explanation for why four people saw the QT though (if that's what happened).
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 20 2015 00:17 GMT
#369
well the first thing I'm curious about is

<LightningStrike> Okay my guess maybe Snickers, Sicklucker, and VE since you said that VE had given acess to the other QT somehow Sicklucker I had Null and Snickers is my weakest Town read


since Kurumi named VE as a potential breach in one of his QTs...


But more to it, that seems like standard LightningStrike. Caveat that I've never played with him when he's been mafia, but this is his style as town. Overreliance on meta like this:
<LightningStrike> I see him doing that more as Town than Mafia but than again I had never played with Lian when he was Mafia (shrugs) but it shows he actually thinking about the game but he didn't really follow up much in the thread though

is pretty much exactly what I expect to see. I'm curious to see the outcome of the leaks talk though b/c he was named as a potential leak.

That reminds me, where is sicklucker? He's not really doing much of anything this game, which would be surprising if he's town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 20 2015 00:34 GMT
#370
[image loading]

Dude, like no way. I was logged on both phone and PC before doing anything. As you can see I used 3 devices and 2 Internet connections. There should be at least two unique viewers if it looks at IP (if my play Internet gives another IP for the phone, it should be three) instead of registered user.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:38 GMT
#371
On February 20 2015 09:10 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:06 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:03 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.

So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-

Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this?

Because if I am correct I have two scum outed already and I don't really care for the third right now? Like how hard can it be to kill a third scum after killing two of them in first two cycles?

Except that this is complete bullshit. You haven't outed any scum. You've essentially said there's 2 mafia (1 each) between me/oats and VE/LS. Except that that also doesn't exclude you. I for a fact know the "extra" unique id from my qt was me. You've literally done nothing to argue or point against that. Like I literally will provide the QT here:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/8hg9EDZSFaLF
You've kept on pushing this complete BS despite the fact that it should be fucking obvious to you that at most 1 of the threads isn't comprimised. So the only possibility is that there are 2 mafia in that QT, you're just fucking wrong or you're mafia. Like literally nothing has excluded you from creating an extra unique ID in the VE/LS thread. You're literally completely bullshitting. I'd put money that, until this post, none of the QTs were comprimised. You've done nothing to try and point out how any of this shit actually has outed any mafia. Yet you keep pushing it as mafia. No fuck that. You die.
##kurumi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:41 GMT
#372
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/FzmJdYXhrMc
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/jT8dBtXAJW63R
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:42 GMT
#373
the only difference there is that I had to remove the capital g. Same thing. Complete BS. Kurumi. Complete BS. Now die for posting a screenshot.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 20 2015 00:42 GMT
#374
On February 20 2015 09:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:10 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:06 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:03 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.

So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-

Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this?

Because if I am correct I have two scum outed already and I don't really care for the third right now? Like how hard can it be to kill a third scum after killing two of them in first two cycles?

Except that this is complete bullshit. You haven't outed any scum. You've essentially said there's 2 mafia (1 each) between me/oats and VE/LS. Except that that also doesn't exclude you. I for a fact know the "extra" unique id from my qt was me. You've literally done nothing to argue or point against that. Like I literally will provide the QT here:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/8hg9EDZSFaLF
You've kept on pushing this complete BS despite the fact that it should be fucking obvious to you that at most 1 of the threads isn't comprimised. So the only possibility is that there are 2 mafia in that QT, you're just fucking wrong or you're mafia. Like literally nothing has excluded you from creating an extra unique ID in the VE/LS thread. You're literally completely bullshitting. I'd put money that, until this post, none of the QTs were comprimised. You've done nothing to try and point out how any of this shit actually has outed any mafia. Yet you keep pushing it as mafia. No fuck that. You die.
##kurumi

Okay Mr. Fancypants, I could've generated 5 additional IDs just by registering more accounts, put the blame on someone from the QT and nobody would budge. Then I'd deflect just like you 'oh right I was using my phone, my pc, different internet, my grandma's pc with different internet'.

Problem freaking is that I actually did all those things and in a different qt it registered a unique viewer only once - when I was not logged on. So you are really not understanding this properly man.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 20 2015 00:43 GMT
#375
EWODP: I did all those things with one account - Kurumi.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:49 GMT
#376
On February 20 2015 09:10 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:06 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:03 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.

So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-

Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this?

Because if I am correct I have two scum outed already and I don't really care for the third right now? Like how hard can it be to kill a third scum after killing two of them in first two cycles?

Fuck no. I've literally explained multiple times how you literally could be wrong. You keep on pushing this complete bullshit. Like you're push is literally complete bullshit for the exact reasons I've pushed. There's literally no way you have 2 mafia outed, unless those 2 are VE/LS. Which is a combination that you don't seem to be pushing whatsoever. Me calling you out on your bullshit isn't me deflecting. I'm literally proving why you're either an idiot or fucking mafia. Would you rather me assume you're an idiot? Like you believe that you've outed 2 mafia right? Except that your play doesn't actually out anyone. It at very best says, "There's maybe two mafia between these four people, but I'm too fucking lazy to do anything to figure out who it is at all." If that's you're push, then you're fucking mafia for not wanting to actually find mafia when it would be super easy to narrow down who the fucking leak was. Yet, you keep up with your bullshit push. Now you get lynched. BYEBYE scum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:50 GMT
#377
On February 20 2015 09:42 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:38 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:10 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:06 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:03 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:02 geript wrote:
Like you can literally just see by the capital G and the lack of a star by the name.

So you claim you were not logged on? Sorry, but QT says explicitly that everyone was logged in. Dude, have you considered that Oats is scum? -_-

Maybe I wasn't. IDK. I'm not the most computer saavy. But I know for sure that the QT is treating how I post from phone differently from how I post from computer and it's ridiculously easy to see in the QT. Why didn't you pick up on this earlier when it's obvious in my/oats QT who the "comprimise" was from? Why didn't you try and do more with this?

Because if I am correct I have two scum outed already and I don't really care for the third right now? Like how hard can it be to kill a third scum after killing two of them in first two cycles?

Except that this is complete bullshit. You haven't outed any scum. You've essentially said there's 2 mafia (1 each) between me/oats and VE/LS. Except that that also doesn't exclude you. I for a fact know the "extra" unique id from my qt was me. You've literally done nothing to argue or point against that. Like I literally will provide the QT here:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/8hg9EDZSFaLF
You've kept on pushing this complete BS despite the fact that it should be fucking obvious to you that at most 1 of the threads isn't comprimised. So the only possibility is that there are 2 mafia in that QT, you're just fucking wrong or you're mafia. Like literally nothing has excluded you from creating an extra unique ID in the VE/LS thread. You're literally completely bullshitting. I'd put money that, until this post, none of the QTs were comprimised. You've done nothing to try and point out how any of this shit actually has outed any mafia. Yet you keep pushing it as mafia. No fuck that. You die.
##kurumi

Okay Mr. Fancypants, I could've generated 5 additional IDs just by registering more accounts, put the blame on someone from the QT and nobody would budge. Then I'd deflect just like you 'oh right I was using my phone, my pc, different internet, my grandma's pc with different internet'.

Problem freaking is that I actually did all those things and in a different qt it registered a unique viewer only once - when I was not logged on. So you are really not understanding this properly man.

How could I possibly be deflecting when it's fucking obvious from the QT that I've posted there and it's registering as 2 different unique accouts?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 00:52 GMT
#378
Like literally, how can you honestly think this when I've literally given you evidence to the fucking contrary? There's literally no way imaginable that what you're saying can in any way come from a town mindset.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 20 2015 01:12 GMT
#379
no response kurumi?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 20 2015 01:14 GMT
#380
I'm back and Eden is calling me town ^_^ Geript you still think I might be mafia can you explain why?
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