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"why is palmar calling rayn mafia"? "Is he trolling? is he 4real? is this reality?" | ||
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On February 14 2015 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well first of all it is a lie and second i cannot think of a reason anyone should read me as scum so it probably makes you mafia then. We should just agree we're of different alignments, right? | ||
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People say literally every game I'm trolling and I'm almost never trolling. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:21 liancourt wrote: I m totally up for a policy palmar lynch too playing too trolly Can't tell if I'm being counter trolled. | ||
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On February 14 2015 17:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think hts is scum because townies do not fear getting copped. They never should. It is extremely scummy to try and justify policy lynches as something other than policy lynches. If we lynch HTS, it's a policy lynch for claiming miller. I personally hate millers claiming on day 1, and in theory agree with policy lynching them, recent games basically make it a dumb move to act on. I'm not saying we give HTS a pass, just that we ignore the claim and treat her like anyone else. So I basically called rayn mafia because I believed he was trying to say HTS was mafia for something that absolutely does not make her mafia. It makes her the target of a policy lynch, and of course she might be mafia. But the claim is not a reason to call her mafia. 1) HTS claimed miller and therefore she is mafia <---- wrong 2) HTS claimed miller which is a mafia favored move so we should policy lynch her <--- right That's the difference. Trying to make policy lynch something it isn't basically makes rayn mafia. The problem is, I'm reading the game backwards so I hadn't seen on the previous page rayn actually calls it a policy lynch, which makes it much less bad. | ||
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okay. I thought you were saying the other thing. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:26 Blazinghand wrote: it would kinda defeat the purpose of miller if cop checks on a miller didn't return guilty or innocent, just "miller" Are you sure? | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would that make him town assuming you are town and i am town? Easiest thing to contribute on when a townie calls anotherone scum... I just like the attention | ||
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On February 14 2015 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar can you please scumhunt with me in this game? I am particularly asking you to make an exception and play this weekend since i got quite much time after mby 2hours -> tomorrow eve. I am making a semi yolo read of you being town based on how you approached to the game so far. I also really wanted to play with DP in slytherin but that didn't work out and i kinda don't work too well with the rest of the people i know well in this game. Okay? Can you explain this better? I want you to be right for the right reasons. But no, I just came back now (I left the house after the last time I was in the thread) and I'm leaving again soon. The weekends are real | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:28 LightningStrike wrote: Are you joking with your Mafia claim? Have I ever mentioned how much LightningStrike is my favorite person on TL? | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk. doesn't make it any better considering the fact LS is town. You have so many concrete reads that maybe you should just make a list post. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:37 IAmRobik wrote: You're surprised that dumb shit annoys me? The only thing that should surprise you is how I've made it this far without caps-locking for an entire page Maybe you should do that? pros: makes figuring out your alignment easy cons: gets you modkilled actually when I think about it, the con isn't really much of a con, a) you could be mafia, b) you're robik. | ||
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I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: and please first read on me if i may suggest! blue or not? I don't know yet, prplhz hasn't established the metric. | ||
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But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:54 IAmRobik wrote: Palmar is my top town. If he's not your top town, then you're playing this game wrong This, I agree with. Even the mafia should probably agree. | ||
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Here's a recap on what happened. 1. Palmar does a bunch of townie things (one of those included calling rayn scum for the hts stuff) 2. rayn says "palmar is town" 3. Palmar talks about bluehunting 4. Robik says "palmar is top town because of the bluehunting thing" 5. prplhz points out reading op is not very palmar-like 6. rayn retracts his townread on Palmar The problem here is that rayn ignored everything that had caused him to call me town in the first place. He overrode all lhis previous notions based on what basically amounts to nothing. To answer the question about why I remembered it... idk? I just did? I usually have at least one tab open on page 1 for quick access to filters so I do skim the ops quite often through games. But the important part here is that changing people's mind in mafia is extremely hard. I've gone on rants about how it's always the best idea for mafia to shoot whoever is right because the people who are wrong will keep being wrong. Rayn however seems to have no problem dropping a read that I'd imagine would be pretty central to the way he is approaching the game (he puts value into reading "big name" players) because of basically nothing. Like when rayn thinks he has something, he doesn't just drop it. There was some game where he was convinced prplhz was mafia (prplhz was town) and it took marv and I fucking forever to convince him to drop it and sheep marv onto someone... Toad I think? Like if rayn doesn't believe the bluehunting thing makes me town (like robik does) I would expect him to defer to his earlier reads, not just straight up drop his townread on me. ##vote rayn | ||
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On February 15 2015 18:59 KelsierSC wrote: Palmar can you explain the blue hunting thing to me. Also it depends on what reasons rayn was townreading you for initially read his filter. Also, he should be townreading me, that's the default. The bluehunting thing was basically prplhz claiming mafia and saying he was bluehunting, I sort of took him up on it and said "okay let's bluehunt" then I realized that the blues in this game are actually mafia and I was wondering if prplhz was being intentionally clever with his bluehunt thing or if he (like everyone else at the time) had forgotten and it was just accidentally hilarious. Mostly pretty irrelevant stuff. | ||
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On February 15 2015 19:12 KelsierSC wrote: Alright so I read through his filter again. He said he has a semi yolo read on you based on your approach this game and that is why he calls you town. Now I admit i dont have a veteran perspective on this but if he really likes the prplhz quote, which it is clear he does then i font think there is an issue with him retracting his town read. Does he actually call you scum though? Either way i dont think your case on rayn is good. He seems town to me. Yes but he later confirmed in his list post that he actually thinks I'm town. There is literally no reason for rayn to doubt I'm town at this point, the fact that I didn't try to bury him regarding the hts/robik stuff should basically give him such a strong townread on me that there is no reason to doubt it, especially the fact that I may or may not read OPs | ||
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On February 15 2015 19:31 KelsierSC wrote: Also palmar what are your thoughts on superbia? I have read very little of his stuff, although I did like him coming in and just casually calling rayn mafia. I reserve the right to change that notion based on actually reading any of his stuff. | ||
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On February 15 2015 19:34 KelsierSC wrote: yeh don't get me wrong I believe that the case from prphlz against you was poor. But again I don't know why rayn was townreading you specifically and your case on him being scum is relying , in part, on him having strong reasons to townread you. It might be the case that rayn had just a "feel" from you but he really liked prplhz case. If that is the truth then your reason to scumread him looks kind of loose. Even if that's the case, that would be the second time I misunderstand rayn this game. where there is smoke, there is fire. If I keep getting bad feelings from interactions about him, it's likely there is something to it. | ||
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Go read the interaction between robik and rayn regarding hts, and then between me and rayn when I call him out about it and he ends up calling me town. tinfoil hat even says that rayn may have wanted to shut me down looking into him by trying to get me to work with him based on a "yolo-read". | ||
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But that's also not the main point. The main point is he drops his townread on me which was based on stuff I actually posted and looked really town, based on some random point about whether or not I read OPs. I read OPs just as little when I'm mafia as when I'm town. I'm even inclined to think it's more likely I'd hide behind that as mafia (see how I eventually ended up reading it quite extensively in that pyp game) because it's an easy out. | ||
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On February 14 2015 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: It has to do with the fact we have been in this situation before. You have been mafia (thug life) and town (the game i dont remember -- around october mby). Both times you called me scum for somerhing you werent sure of. On both times i hit you back and it ruined the thread and i still couldn't lynch you. I think you -- as mafia -- would have... idk... been more "unreasonable" because it "wouldn't make you scum". But you were reasonable and actually wanted to work it out instead of getting into two way tunnelfest. Hope you get what i mean. | ||
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On February 15 2015 19:42 KelsierSC wrote: perhaps, I don't know the history between you and rayn so I am just working off the evidence I see in this game. The case regarding the OP's is terrible though. Well if the case regarding the OPs is terrible, why do you think rayn dropped me on his mafia -> town scale for it? So your conclusion is that rayn is just bad and town? | ||
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This is not a meta case. | ||
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On February 15 2015 23:24 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and saw Palmar's case on Rayn which is a okay case but I never played with Mafia!Rayn before so :|. Palmar other than Rayn who you think is Mafia? I don't know, it's still weekend and I'm only semi-caught up with everything. I thought Robik looked good in the exchange regarding HTS with rayn, and he also townread me correctly, although he might of course do that as both alignments. Still, the read feels very much like a "robik-read" (he read me town last game for posting 4 times in a row, because magic). So I think he is town. Ksc could be mafia, I just pointed out how he didn't follow up on his very inconclusive big post by talking about something different entirely, then I left the thread and he just happened to do the same. Like I just don't get the feeling he's particularly interested in pushing prplhz or anyone else from his big post. FF idk, he's just here, but at least he's sheeping me... so there's that? prplhz could be town? I don't know, but I didn't get the feeling he was trying to call me mafia for reading the OP, he just pointed out that it was strange behavior for Palmar to do that. So many people though that I have very little opinion on, mostly because I haven't been here all that much. Btw, the fact that rayn hasn't come back to the thread might be indicative that I'm right, basically clam up marv-style (which is actually a good move if you're mafia. No confirming more townies and no giving up teammates). Also his weird trap thing where he asked me if I knew why he thought Ksc was mafia has gone on for way too long. This is more meta and less strong than my main point, but if I thought someone is mafia (like rayn seems to think with ksc) I could hardly shut up about it. Waiting like 24 hours for some random person in the game to give his opinion on it seems way overkill. I'd be convincing other people by that time. | ||
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On February 16 2015 00:49 LightningStrike wrote: Also interesting thoughts about ritoky and the fact he haven't tried to fight anyone yet seems alignment indicative for me on his meta since he normally fight people at Day 1 as Mafia. Also why would you clam up marv-style as Mafia if someone thinks your mafia? Oh god LS | ||
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On February 16 2015 00:55 LightningStrike wrote: What is it? Also I do agree it's kind of overkill to wait 24 hours for a random person in the game to his opinions on KSC. read the post very carefully. I'm saying RAYN (not me) is clamping up. Also I have literally no thoughts on ritoky, so they cannot by definition be interesting. Although I guess the fact that I have no thoughts is noteworthy, as I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are so bland all the time. | ||
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On February 16 2015 01:42 rsoultin wrote: Again with the "literally" -_- It's like crack to you people lol. I certainly agree that Rayn's sudden read change looks strange. We're arguing the same point, here xP Not sure how his read change has any bearing on your alignment, though. My alignment is supertown because I am playing like supertown. If I was not playing like supertown maybe my alignment would be something other than supertown. Stop being shit. Start sheeping me. | ||
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On February 16 2015 01:54 prplhz wrote: @Palmar I don't remember which game it was that had you and marvellosity fight an uphill battle against raynpelikoneet to make him realize I was town. HOWEVER In that very game I remember that I said something like "raynpelikoneet can't read me for shit he always reads me scum even though I'm town" and that just ticked him off. Completely emotionally compromised and we know raynpelikoneet with the multiple 5 game bans can be hilariously emotionally compromised. That's what happened and that's why he was so stubborn that game. I'm pretty sure that while he's usually self-confident, he's nowhere near those levels of stubbornness. What's happening in this game is that raynpelikoneet saw a post that he liked and then it seems like he reconsidered a read. That's not scummy, it's scummy to keep all doors open but not to reconsider reads. pls respond as opposed to rayn just saying nothing like this game? | ||
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On February 16 2015 02:28 IAmRobik wrote: It just crossed my mine...do you remember the post that I'm talking about? No, I have no idea why you think he's SK, but still. If it secures your vote I'm all for it. | ||
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debatable | ||
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rayn who are you guys shooting? Can it not be me please? | ||
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We have what... 2 millers 2 JKs or something like that? | ||
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On February 16 2015 17:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't shoot because i am not scum. Hts, kelsier, idk maybe superbia and you are mafia. Don't care right now. Maybe in the evening in case my free time doesn't get fucked up again. You can't actually scumread me. At least if you want to have a chance of anyone ever thinking you're town. | ||
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You wouldn't shoot a teammate would you? | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then why do you make a BS case? I never drop my SCUMREADS. I do, however, drop my TOWNREADS if the person does something scummy. Because one scummy enough thing makes one scum, but mafia does townie things all the time. Well tough shit for me then. I guess we're done here! | ||
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The fact you tried to use that to change your mind on me basically you were looking for an excuse to do so. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you literally looked like you weren't reading the OP and prplhz had a good point on it imo. Can i also say your case is BS because that's not how i behave? Because it really isn't, and as you put it -- you have plaed a ton of games with me and you should know it. I don't care if YOU think my reasons are shit, i literally don't. I don't think they are. I read your filter and i couldn't see anything that "should make me think you are 100% town" because there wasn't nothing. All there was was a case on me that i found out to be BS and you arguing about it and not doing anything productive on D1 after that. Whatever, I'm not gonna waste tonight arguing with you. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: I read your filter and i couldn't see anything that "should make me think you are 100% town" because there wasn't nothing. Actually, that's your first mistake. Because there is something lacking from my filter that needs to be there if I'm supposed to be mafia. I suggest you start reading all possible combination of words in the English language and compare it to the selection of word combinations I have used in my filter and see if you figure it out. get to work. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care about you now, i don't even think you are mafia any more, i just think you are wrong. I like how you're not even sure about your own alignment | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar did ritoky sheep your read on me or did he say this: ..before you made your case? I have no idea. I don't remember a single ritoky post. He's probably mafia. | ||
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touche not happening. | ||
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the mowgli ones? I can't even remember the Icelandic names, I never knew the english ones. | ||
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On February 17 2015 05:53 Town Puppy wrote: Notable nulls: Palmar, ray, HtS. I just haven't read enough of any of their posts. I still feel like HtS wouldn't fakeclaim miller, and I think 2 Jk, 2 mill, 1 cop is probably legit. So I guess she's town but this is predicated on a yolo read so yeah. I liked what Palmar said when he posted and I didn't like ray's tone when he posted. But it's weak. Eh. It's official. I am stuck in some kind of an eternal purgatory where no one will be sure I'm town. Ever. | ||
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rayn I don't know now. Basically yesterday when I wrote the case on him, part of the case was also to gauge his reaction to it. I sort of thought to myself "if he responds with straight up omgus, he's mafia" and "if he actually recognizes that what I'm saying is true and valid, and just argues why it doesn't apply, he might not be mafia". The fact that he just left the thread made me more sure he's mafia, and he came back today and just pulled an OMGUS. Then he went and posted _exactly_ what I would have expected him to post as town. On February 17 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: On the other hand i have no idea why Kelsier decided to step up on me. Like everything you say in your case is "correct" except that it's not because it's ME we are talking about here. Kelsier definitely doesn't know me good enough to know because apparently you don't either. On top of that you should probably read his filter. It's really bad. See the bolded. Now I'm not sure. Maybe he's town? If he keeps lynching townies and keeps not having any influence on the lynch, kill him, but I don't think we lynch him tomorrow. ritoky is mafia. Lynch with fire. Besides being completely uninvested and most of his very short filter being chupazi jokes with slam, he actually did suspect rsoultin at some point for what seemed to be reasons he actually believed, then later he posted both a list post with various players that didn't even include rsoultin and a mafia team that didn't either. It's like he forgot she exists which is strange as he in theory already had a read on her. I know all this because it took me well into the night to realize he was even playing so I read his filter. That's how boring his posts were. Town Puppy and Blazinghand are probably town. Someone pointed out that it fits the flavor for there to be two people and there is literally no reason for mafia to fakeclaim that on day 1 (if one of them is 4real mafia just shuts the fuck up and shoots the other in the night). I haven't really read their posts though. IAmRobik probably town, I've gotten more confident reading him lately and somehow his posts in the last few games have been less awful than before. I liked how he acted regarding the HTS claim and I really like his read on me and calling me top town (pro-tip mafia, just call me top town for free townreads). rsoultin is probably town too. I think her interaction with BH early regarding the RNG lynch was pretty much okay. Also despite getting the idea behind my case on rayn completely wrong, I still think she showed an actual interest in it. Her general vibe is also just sort of bubbly/happy which makes her less likely to be mafia. LightningStrike is a wizard. KelsierSC could be mafia. Looks especially worse if rayn turns out to be actually town because that defense was basically unnecessary. And I guess the main thing isn't really the defense, it's the fact that he could easily not have argued with me about the rayn thing and instead really tried to push his own thing. He seemed fine with getting caught up in that despite having just posted his own case. Alakaslam: who knows I thought prplhz was town yesterday. He made the point about me not reading OPs but didn't seem to really jump to conclusions over it. Howerver I sorta feel like he's disappeared and not been much of a factor in the game since then but still. I actually used to pride myself on being basically a prplhz whisperer because I'd always know his alignment. So maybe I'm just shit. Superbia is a hard read atm. I kinda liked his initial vote on rayn because it basically was a bit of a "I don't care" move, and he definitely doesn't have that kinda flash as mafia from what I have seen. Soooo town maybe slightly? Fecalfeast gave me the attention I crave so much. very slight townread. Half the Sky Breshke VayneAuthority No idea, can't remember anything they've posted. (especially for HTS that might be scummy, because I always tend to figure her out as town quite early, I even wrote about how it's a pretty unique skill of hers). | ||
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If by day 4 there are no mafia dead and robik is still alive, murder the fuck out of him. if he's town: - we go out with a bang - we make him mad and he gets banned - he deserves it for being bad - we ruin his not lynched as town record if he's mafia - we lynch mafia so it's like a win/win/win/win/win. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:01 KelsierSC wrote: Alright palmar next time you post something I will just ignore it completely because fuck engaging in a conversation, fuck It was a pointless conversation. Without rayn being back there was nothing to defend him on. My case was objectively correct at the time and you just argued about nothing. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:05 LightningStrike wrote: Palmar did you not see Rayn claim Mafia? Bro... | ||
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I get to define it, you don't. | ||
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I am objectively the best mafia player here (because it's a fact and not influenced by opinion). on the other hand I am subjectively the best looking player in this game (it can be argued that rayn's see-through-pale face matches up to my burly manliness). | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:09 LightningStrike wrote: I always take things serious ritoky...... Really? | ||
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Okay then, I hadn't noticed. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:15 KelsierSC wrote: Ok... Point is I disagreed with your post on rayn. It seems to me that you made a lot of assumptions and I brought that up to you. I don't think its pointless. I gave town a chance to read my posts then I engaged with you. That does not mean I have no interest in my own case. I actually offered you the chance to talk about my case on prplhz and you just ignored me yes I did the thing people do when they actually believe the shit they're saying. I ignored your case to push mine. Because I don't give a fuck about what you have to say when I think I have something. That's how normal people who are not mafia act. You on the other hand seemed fine with just posting whatever. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:16 ritoky wrote: oh and palmar, I stopped my rsoul read because some1 told me that the stupid emoji crap was part of how she always posted and 1 time she got lynched as mafia for not posting enuf. went and looked, turned out to be true; so I am trying to grit my teeth and bear it, but I still have a visceral reaction of wanting to lynch her when she posts. So at that point she became "not even null" in your mind? | ||
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On February 16 2015 11:43 ritoky wrote: mafia: rayn lian breshke hts town: robik slam derp: TP BH way too uninvested: ff You forgot she existed. | ||
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I know, you're one of those nasty mafia people. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote: LS is someone you learn to read with time. So those players who have played with LS more frequently, like HtS or myself, I'd expect to be able to read him easier. This is probably quite reasonable. and rsoultin is super right that LS is basically being LS this game. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote: Short of super WIFOMy play on the part of mafia, which I don't feel that the mods would honor but that's just me lol, his figuring out the possibility of two JKs thing makes him all but confirmed town. Am I missing something? oh I was afk for that part. Did he suggest that before Sentinel came in and hinted that it might be true? | ||
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I don't actually think LS has an alignment. He's just kind of there. He's like a mirror. Think about it. If you say something to LS, LS will show you exactly what you said at face value. No questions, no distortions, no interpretations. The man is a goddamn mirror. So I wonder, what does a mafia see when they look into the mirror? did LS trap them? Did they see their own scummy reflection? | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes. he is town or the game is invalid. you know this shit. fine. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:34 KelsierSC wrote: So before I got sidetracked I wanted people to look at prplhz and my case. Ritoky , palmar brings up the point that rsoultin isn't on the list you made so that I what interests me. I don't think you mean the things you say. | ||
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On February 17 2015 09:08 ritoky wrote: I am starting to be inclined to think LS is scum because dood takin urrthing so srs. | ||
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I liked the part where rayn said people should protect me. I'm actually enjoying this game for some reason. So pls no shooterino. | ||
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I really liked rsoultin's top town reads. Tbh this is the list of people we lynch into: raynpelikoneet Half the Sky ritoky VayneAuthority Alakaslam prplhz Damdred Fecalfeast there's at least 3 mafia in this list. I just need to narrow it down a bit further. | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:26 Alakaslam wrote: What would help you regarding me palmar? I don't know slam. I am terrible at reading your posts, I don't understand your riddles and your manner of speech. You know I literally always rely on other people for reading you because I just don't know how to. Just do your thing. You think we should lynch ritoky? | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:31 Half the Sky wrote: This makes me feel a little better: Rayn, Ritoky, Breshke (now Damdred) and FF are scumlisted for me - leaning scum on PRP as well after examining KSC's case and his filter, if I'm wrong on any of them it's probably Breshke. Just about done with the FF case... Why do YOU think ritoky is mafia? answer quick please. | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:07 VayneAuthority wrote: if not we can just kill lightningstrike who is blatant mafia but I felt i could save this read for later You have literally not even mentioned LS before in this game. This one line is every single thing you've said about him. The mirror strikes again. | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote: It was never strong? He was BH's RNG lynch, then there was the CC on BH and VA definitely got lost in the shuffle there lol Yeah but still. It's not like there was an abdundance of reasons not lynch him. | ||
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The point is he read the same thing and came to two different conclusions, which I can only assume are based on the current vibe in the thread at that very moment. | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:02 ritoky wrote: palmar, is activity an indicator of rayn's alignment? also do you think stray voting on day 1 is alignment indicative for rayn too? To be honest stray voting is much less indicative when he simply wasn't around. I did the same and I'm not mafia, I just wasn't there for the last 12 hours-ish of the day or so. I'm still undecided on rayn. He kinda sounded like town maybe tonight, but maybe I'm just being owned by the fact he called me town and wanted me protected. I'm a sucker for people calling me town. | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote: But you also said yourself that normally you ignore Mafia when you're town lol.... Should you relook at your townreads and figure out which one be the one that you ignored the most at the time? Also aren't you a big sucker for Christmas? I have no idea what you're saying LS. | ||
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step 1: you deliver a kick-ass case on someone. step 2: I townread you 4lyfe. we good? | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote: A. Should you reread your townreads since you yourself said that in the past as town you tend to ignore mafia and gave shitty reasons for them to be townread so should you recheck your reads on that? B. Aren't you a big sucker Christmas since I remember you saying you were a big for Christmas. A. Yes I should, but as a rule of thumb I generally scum or null read most of the mafia and townread maybe 1 person or something. So it's still more efficient for me to chase the people I actually think I am mafia B. I love christmas. | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:18 IAmRobik wrote: There better be fucking masons in this game the way you're defending this dude, because he's fucking scum. Ritoky's post on me was bad, but I think he genuinely believes he's meta cleared, so that's kinda townie. Rayn's afking again. he better be cop or we're lynching him. He loves to claim maf as maf and see how long he can get away with it and then gloat about it in postgame Breshke is someone who we should strongly consider lynching. From all accounts he single handedly won the previous game as vig. I don't recall any of his posts this game, which is a bad sign for him. I am in no way certain he is town. But he is just so far away from the people I most likely think are mafia that to me it's dumb to lynch him. I honestly don't get why people think he's mafia. He literally has no trouble communicating with people in the thread and is kinda doing his own wonderfully weird thing. | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:15 IAmRobik wrote: I'm moderately surprised i'm not scumread by plammmar I have a soft spot for people who call me top town. | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:28 IAmRobik wrote: I have a special spot on my lynch list for people who call me town Well we could always decide you're mafia and lynch you, would that be better? | ||
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On February 18 2015 18:09 Fecalfeast wrote: I would kill her just for trying to get me killed Trying to get you killed is literally the most townie thing she has done this game. If you think she's mafia for that you probably are. I mean, she could be mafia, but if she is this is not why. Her case genuinely looks like she believes what she is saying. | ||
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##unvote ##vote ritoky reasons: ritoky's posts are completely unmemorable. his 6 page filter is probably about 70% just trolling which means he is one of the least active players in the game. I don't like his scumreads, I especially have a problem with him calling HTS mafia. Here's two reasons why: 1. He thinks FF is the SK (he says so multiple times), and yet he scumreads HTS for her case on FF. While this is of course possible (mafia can hunt for the SK) I just have a hard time believing that anyone would scumread someone they think is essentally right on someone for the right reasons. 2. He calls HTS out for not changing her scumreads, which is actually not scummy at all. In fact I've had rants about how boneheaded townies can be when they get an idea of a read into their heads. I also don't like how he thinks he can tell who is the sk and who is mafia, I've seen multiple mafia fall victim to calling people sk because it's just so much easier than to force yourself to be wrong. | ||
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On February 18 2015 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seems like we have oppsite reads palmar. . Maybe we're opposite alignments then | ||
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On February 18 2015 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i don't even know what robik has been doing since D1.... He's slowplaying a scumread on me. | ||
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On February 18 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote: I actually think rob is a good shot for scum i'm going through his filter now though post to come Between you and him I'd lynch you right now. So, impress me! | ||
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raynpelikoneet ritoky VayneAuthority Alakaslam prplhz Fecalfeast I now actually think HTS and Damdred don't really belong on the list. Which leaves only 6 people. Even if we accept that I miss like 1-2 people that means there are 4-5 mafia in this list, and half of them have been busing each other if they are. rayn and prplhz are trying to kill each other, I think ritoky wants to kill FF etc. And I don't even think slam is that scummy at all. So I've definitely given at least 1 mafia a town pass. | ||
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On February 19 2015 00:09 Half the Sky wrote: Palmar, what do you think of Robik? I played with Robik in Hammertime and he largely AFKed, geript said the key indicator with Robik as scum is that his filter is shit. What do you think of Rob's filter? I honestly don't read robik's filter. Maybe he's the reason this game feels off. | ||
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a) I'm awesome, so my case was correct b) I'm supertown and smart and sexy so I should be protected | ||
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On February 19 2015 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fine. Solve this game by yourself then idiots. Not gonna post any more. Mafia is prplhz, rsoultin, damdred and hts. (if hts is town then robik is scum). At least three of them are scum. Perhaps ritoky or maybe even palmar. Mafia success = time used on it and i don't have much time during weeks. Get used to it fuckers. I have better things to do than to defend myself to non-existent cases which are based on nothing but my activity. Good defense, I am convinced. You KNOW I will change my mind if you bring anything to the table. I literally pride myself in being able to step back and re-evaluate. The fact that you don't, makes you mafia. | ||
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"I'll just pretend I'm waiting for Palmar". | ||
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On February 19 2015 04:33 IAmRobik wrote: what did you think of damdred's case on me. I thoguht it was pretty good. I almost self-voted I loved it. Especially the part where he called your filter boring. | ||
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On February 19 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry to say this Palmar but you are fucking dumb if you are town in this game. Why the fuck would you not try to solve this game with me instead of just making snarky crap posts towards me? Why? I just can't understand it in any way. Let's solve the game then. Read a filter, conclude the person's alignment and explain to me how you reached that conclusion. If you do this successfully I will comment on your read, then do the same with the next person. Pick any filter you want. Also no, even if I'm wrong and you're not mafia, don't for a second try to put the blame on me. I did not do this. I gave you chances, repeated chances. You say you want to solve the game but you're hardly trying. | ||
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Also, I don't want to be mad at you cause I think you're a nice guy, so just stop. You're mafia and now we lynch you. We can be friends postgame. | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:00 Alakaslam wrote: I just sluffed a huge commitment that was driving me insane. Hopefully I will now be more useful and bamcis here :D I still don't see any I fixed that for you and now it actually makes sense! | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:09 IAmRobik wrote: ##unvote I think I just had a Raynvalation yeah you're going to have to explain that. For some reason lynching rayn, both yesterday and today, has been incredibly hard work. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:01 Blazinghand wrote: Honestly? Yeah. Today's basically a clusterfuck, right? Well, this is a great time to lynch VA who will never be useful. Rayn might be angry and it might be the weekend or whatever lame excuse he or Palmar is using, but they have to shape up (also I'll note that Palmar's 'weekend' excuse is strange since it's wednesday/thursday right now). It's not the end of the world of Rayn gets lynched, but man, somehow VA is slipping by and I need to step up my game or it's on me when he wins in endgame You are not reading the game. It's a good thing you're semi-modconfirmed (the game is basically invalid if you're mafia, so I just don't care about that option). | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:04 Blazinghand wrote: You think Rayn's fake anger and afkness means he has to be scum? He could be faking it as town. No I meant the factyou mentioned my "weekend excuse". a) i'm soon going to hit 10 pages of filter, If I stay alive throughout the next night I might break my imperial record for filter length, so I don't need to "shape up" b) I'm not making any excuses for my activity, because well... see a) | ||
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I caught damdred in imperial, and this is not mafia damdred. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:07 Blazinghand wrote: yeah don't worry Palmar we're not lynching you. Even if you're scum the SK will shoot you because you as scum would probably catch the SK seriously though you're not even like, on my list. don't worry. I'm not worried, I'm just pointing out that you were talking about things that don't exist. I do that, to hedge my bet that you're town, so post-game I can say "well game is invalid and I said BH was talking out of his ass". | ||
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Now on the other hand I wouldn't listen to marv because he's shit, but still. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:26 Blazinghand wrote: I considered you. Also, it's interesting you got RBed. Would mafia have 2x RBer then? eden could have jkd me. | ||
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his top contribution to the game tbh. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: no superbia doesn't. so superb claims shot and vet bh claims rb's palmar claims rb's eden shot. that means eden 100% jailed palmar. superbia is most likely veteran. where is mafia roleblock? a) on bh b) withheld and claimed by BH who has the biggest balls in the universe, bribed the host and lucked out harder than anyone in history. | ||
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It's blindingly obvious what the night actions were. There is no way I'm going to change my mind on you because you're pretending to be confused by them. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:35 IAmRobik wrote: let's play a game called statistics. 274 people subbed out of games from 2014-2015. 243 of them were mafia. if this is an actual statistic, color me impressed | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: there was literally zero reason to lynch me on D1. maybe Palmar is stupid enough to do that, but noone else. never. there is absolutely nothing that would ever make me mafia on D1. I literally made a case that makes you mafia on D1. So you're wrong. But at least you managed to survive the day, so you can claim better than marv. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:43 Half the Sky wrote: Wrong. My first case post on Rayn was on page 41, D1. (Ironically it was the same post that FF commented on with two different conclusions.) I know at least 2 people who shot down the thought of lynching Rayn on D1 either because he was posting/or was a vet/or whatever. I'm also aware there are multiple scum and I've said before (to I believe Ritoky) that you can have convinction on multiple scumreads. If I'd tried to push Rayn (or in the same vein, let's say a HF or a Marv, etc) D1, it was not going to get traction for what I just stated. If he flips mafia, this is going to be a very interesting read. Find those posts. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: OH THE PRE-FLIP ASSOCIATIONS! THE MOST PERFECT THING TO DO WHEN YOU ARE MAFIA SO WHEN THE LYNCH FLIPS TOWN YOU CAN JUST SAY "OH WELL, MY LAST POSTS COUNT FOR NOTHING"! actually, if you somehow flip town I'm just going to try to lynch myself because everything sucks. so there's that. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah iam play hots for a while then sleep. gn. #dedication Remember that time when we were going to solve the game together. | ||
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Like why does he not think I am 100% confirmed town. He seemed to think it for a bit during the night then forgot. What possible gain did I have from trying to lynch him yesterday if he is town and I am mafia? I already had him townreading me? Wouldn't that be my ideal scenario as mafia palmar to get townread by rayn day 1, just shut up and then shoot him in the night? There is literally no upside in going after him at that point if I'm mafia | ||
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On February 19 2015 07:00 Half the Sky wrote: My vote's already on him. I'm setting my alarm for 4am our time, and helping secure this lynch. see rayn! that's #dedication. | ||
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Now there's literally no way I'm going to wake up during the night unless forced to. I blame the kids. | ||
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On February 19 2015 07:54 Alakaslam wrote: Dude BH is town. Know it folks. hard hitting analysis | ||
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I am okay with this. Lynch me when he flips town. | ||
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I'm not joking, you're way better at this mafia thing than marv has been recently. | ||
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On February 19 2015 08:43 Alakaslam wrote: Palmar BH is town Do you know it? he is literally modconfirmed town. the game is invalid if he isn't. | ||
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Also he has put some suspicion on me and I'm a vengeful bastard. | ||
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On February 19 2015 09:06 Blazinghand wrote: so rayn's deffo scum since he fakeclaimed cop right ##unvote ##vote rayn though if he flips town he wouldn't be the first townie to fakeclaim cop while being lynched mandatory the tmi is strong in you if he flips town, invalid game if you're scum etc etc. | ||
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On February 19 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote: Also that cop claim was garbage. I don't think it was a cop claim | ||
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I'm pretty sure that was rayn's version of claiming mafia and saying fuck it. Maybe hoping that the cop (if we have one) is a moron and ccs to give his team a free shot. | ||
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On February 19 2015 09:46 Fecalfeast wrote: I have not, are you going to regail me with your tale or are you going to make me look? Oh yes, it was a wondrous game. I'll stay awake for that. | ||
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A long lost player called vaderseven mentioned he was taking notes about the game. I had a suspicion that vaderseven was mafia. Being flamboyant and prone to theatrics I claimed day vigilante and threatened to shoot him if he didn't paste his notes thread within a short timeframe (to prove they actually existed, was my theory). However this turned out to be a mistake. vaderseven completely panicked and well... turns out he was actually a day vigilante. For no apparent reason he randomly shot a townie called Soap. This led to much uproar in town and if it wasn't for the great syllogism I surely would have been lynched for starting that whole mess with my fakeclaim. | ||
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Syllo saved me but town couldn't settle on mafia so a random guy got lynched instead. During the following night syllogism tunneled hard on mafia called Annul (damn him). At dawn, however. Syllogism ended up dead, flipping the town vigilante, and Annul claimed having been shot and saved in the night. I immediately recognized the problem here. Who in their right mind would protect annul? The only way Annul was going to be protected was by a mafia doctor. No one in particular was townreading him. I posted like a true madman. This included hard defending townies, being a complete and utter dick. But I was not prepared for what would come next. | ||
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So he shot prplhz. Who was town. And just like that, the town believed Annul's claim. I tried my best, I made many points indicating that his alignment had nothing to do with his role. Yes he could shoot people during the day, but he was still mafia. But the deadline was late at night. So I went to sleep. I woke up the next morning and discovered to my horror that town had no-lynched. | ||
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I tried to appeal to Radfield's read, who had agreed with me that annul was mafia and syllo. My strongest supporter was sandroba the mafia (I pointed out that even the mafia agreed, he was playing so scummy that it was basically trolling). I managed to whip together a wagon on Annul, I went to sleep confident that finally Annul the mafia would be dead, finally we could move on beyond this lynch and kill him. We had mafia waiting in line to be lynched, but Annul was the key to the puzzle. We needed to kill him. | ||
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redFF, who I had vigorously defended, had somehow been switched upon and was now dead. I cried. This is the only time I have cried in mafia. I sat down, and realized my time was at an end. I spent the next hour making this video. On December 13 2011 02:11 Palmar wrote: I was dead at dawn. | ||
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On March 23 2013 09:18 Palmar wrote: TL Mafia XLVIII NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE. | ||
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I was never the same player, or person. Something changed inside me that game. | ||
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On February 19 2015 10:19 Fecalfeast wrote: I would not want to be a dead townie in obs chat when you died I was beyond rage. Like hitler in that video, I was defeated. I was done. I died. | ||
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On February 19 2015 17:31 prplhz wrote: what happened last night? rayn is a shit player, that's what happened. | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: bg i hope mafia wins which shouldn't be hard for them. Fuckk you town. You deserve to lose. I have such a massive problem with this kind of shit. The worst player in the game is the one who gets lynched, because the ultimate goal of every participating player, the mafia too, is to not get lynched. Like no matter how bad you call this town rayn, you're the worst of it. I hope you're reading this. | ||
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On February 19 2015 18:10 IAmRobik wrote: LS IS FUCKING MAFIA AND YOU WON'T ADMIT IT TO YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LYNCH SOMEONE YOU LIKE FOR SOME FUCKING ODD REASON Do the caps mean you're real serious about this. Like you truly believe this in your heart? | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:05 IAmRobik wrote: VA and I are never ever ever getting lynched this game Can you explain this read like I'm an idiot? Cause I really want to lynch VA. So either I'm bad, or you're bad or scum. Surely if you're town you'd want me to understand why I should not kill VA in case you die? | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote: I think brain cells died reading robik's filter -_- In the public relations world this would be called spinning the story. But his insistence that LS is scum is just bad. He goes out of his way to go meta read HtS, but can't be bothered to figure out LS' alignment (I've yet to see someone continue calling LS scum after doing a meta read on him) when everyone who plays with LS is saying the guy's town. Plus has been saying VA is town from the beginning based on some weird-ass he's always town in these Titanic games comment? Please tell me you have more than that, Robik. Of course there is a chance LS is mafia, but there are so many better targets to go for than him. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:29 rsoultin wrote: Lol, also, I really want to lynch BH. Like my brain says nah, don't be dumb, and it's probably just the smug ass attitude while he trolls around and barely contributes, but I really want to lynch him. Someone explain why again it would break the game if the mods suggested there could be two JKs, that BH may actually not be one of them? Also, kinda like Superbia's filter, though I remember you being a ton more helpful the last game I played with you, Super. We're not lynching BH. If BH is scum, the game is invalid because the host interfered with the meta thing. So if he is mafia and the host has any integrity, BH would be modkilled and the host would then commit sudoku. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:12 rsoultin wrote: EBWOP: Going back through Robik's filter, I'm even more confused. It looked like he wasn't reading the thread or thinking at all in regards to the night actions, but how does that translate to reading the OP? he got the claims wrong. Which technically indicates that he is town. Although if the claims were simple enough that me and BH understood them without having to make a scene out of it, it could also mean he did that intentionally. But meh. I propose we just try to lynch Robik tomorrow. He's even more transparent than me when people actually try to lynch him. If he's town, the trick is just to stop before he gets himself modkilled. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote: It's supoku, Palmar xP Eh, I don't know, is it really acceptable for the mod to confirm anyone in these games? That seems like poor modding and I had a higher opinion of Sent than that. It's not the point. We were about to lynch Blazinghand. The host sweeps in and points out that it's not unbelievable and specifically mentions the flavor of the game. Due to this we don't lynch Blazinghand. If Blazinghand is mafia, he got saved by host interaction. I really, really cba dealing with that shit too. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote: I've got a list that isn't making sense anymore. That question was more for ritoky than robik, btw, don't really care that robik can't read or understand simple things xP We should probably just lynch prplhz tomorrow, in all honesty. His entrance was shit, he made one or two good posts, and since then he comes back in asking for updates and to whine at people scumreading him. And I go 'oh, that's right, he's in this game'. Your list please, don't care if it makes sense or not, I just want to see it. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: Prplhz Ritoky BH Super Slam/HtS/Robik/Damdred The last slot is just cause I think I'm being hyper paranoid about the 3rd and 4th, but until I scratch the itch the thought won't go away >< Why do you think VA is town? | ||
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whatever. There are too many shitters this game. | ||
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ff/rit/va/prplhz Although in theory that could be the mafia team right there. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:45 Half the Sky wrote: Does PoE here make sense? The five most anti-town players could be scum if everyone else is bleeding town? Are there more than 5 anti-town players? I'm not sure I'd put slam in that category. Palmar, what is jumping out at you re: VA despite the meta read? I don't use meta. Or at least not in that way. VA is mafia because he doesn't do jack shit. Like it's amazing that people are scumreading damdred (who actually led a lynch yesterday) and LS (who constantly involves himself into everything that's going on) over VA who is just happy to do literally nothing. I don't care what his meta is, he is mafia. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:45 Half the Sky wrote: Does PoE here make sense? The five most anti-town players could be scum if everyone else is bleeding town? Are there more than 5 anti-town players? I'm not sure I'd put slam in that category. Palmar, what is jumping out at you re: VA despite the meta read? No I probably gave some random mafia townread. Maybe it's Damdred? you? rsoultin? superbia? LS? robik? Doesn't matter. I'm not lynching into my nulls/towns until I've exhausted my shit tier list. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote: Palmar, if you disregard mechanics, claims, etc, etc. to be fair BOTH BH and VA have been anti-town. Here are two questions. 1 What makes VA more anti-town/scum than BH on behaviour alone? 2 What are the chances of VA and BH double bussing each other and the rest of us assuming it's just town on town squabbles? BH has the modconfirm VA doesn't Also bh has like 12 pages of filter or something. VA has what... 3? | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:55 Palmar wrote: BH has the modconfirm VA doesn't Also bh has like 12 pages of filter or something. VA has what... 3? the actual numbers are 14 v 2 | ||
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On February 20 2015 00:05 VayneAuthority wrote: dont worry guys he doesnt use meta x] What is the logic behind thinking that the scum would be a in tight spot and stressed in thread when this game is going extremely well for them? LOL How do you know that at the point Damdred entered the thread (with wagons if I recall correctly on Fecalfeast and me trying to lynch ritoky) the game was going extremely well for mafia? | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:44 VayneAuthority wrote: gotta commend palmar on his amazing meta read on Damdred, I guess thats why he doesnt use meta. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bOIPCbJ.jpg) Good contribution, you're doing a lot to win this game with us. | ||
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You know I will always defend myself as town. I've clearly put myself in bit of a shitty position by being wrong this game. Obviously being painfully wrong does not make me mafia (If you think I'd buddy this hard up to a mafia bro you have no idea how I play mafia). Still, trying to lynch me is probably a good plan, but due to weekend it'd be much better and more helpful if you people tried it the next cycle. Almost every time people try to lynch me when I'm town I make life so difficult that the mafia team basically outs themselves (see imperial mafia). So I'm okay with that. Today, I'm basically voting the only guy robik, rayn and I all agreed upon as mafia. That seems to be a good plan. | ||
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On February 22 2015 01:50 prplhz wrote: palmar do you think i'm scum or are you just playing? I don't know. you haven't done jack shit and robik and rayn thought you were mafia. so who knows! | ||
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I WILL defend myself if put under pressure as town. It's objectively bad play to not give myself a chance to do so. | ||
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Then the house came down burning when you decided to help town by flipping us. | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic. That's all I can say. Also, this is completely unacceptable. I considered just quitting the game at this point. | ||
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On February 25 2015 18:07 ritoky wrote: I have sent in my concession, cuz I am in an unwinnable position with cop + prot + confirmed towns. really frustrating game for me, I feel I played really well and the mafia didn't hold up their end of the bargain. I mean 3 of em basically quit (1 of which got subbed), and for some reason they decided to leave confirmed towns alive forever....would love to see the discussion or lack thereof in their QT about why in the living hell they left so many confirmed alive. So, to answer this more precisely. We did not want to keep the confirmed townies alive. The problem was that there were so many of them and we also needed to get rid of some good players. Robik being the big one. We shot superbia n1 because well, he was semi-modconfirmed. We rb'd Blazinghand and killed TP. I even tried to communicate this to the SK: On February 17 2015 04:17 Palmar wrote: You should shoot BH btw, he's modconfirmed JK Notice how I mentioned shooting BH, not TP. It was oddly specific. I can't control the fact prplhz/breshke were a bit shit. On night 2 we felt we were in a good position, but at that point we started worrying about the SK shooting us. The Rayn lynch was great and we decided due to robik being both right on too many things and a complete pita to deal with we had to shoot him. However, the reason we managed to lynch rayn - Like I want to be clear here, it's not normal for a mafia team to be able to orchestrate a lynch on a town rayn who has nailed 3/4 of the mafia. - The reason we managed to lynch him is that we went with a very tied together strategy. The only guy on the mafia team that wasn't heavily involved in our circlejerk was prplhz. If you had shot prplhz and not damdred, the mafia team would have stayed afloat. But shooting Damdred put me in a terrible, terrible position for forcing the townread so hard on him. With me down and you shooting rsoultin the next night, there wasn't much left we could do. So no, we did our end of the bargain, we even controlled the thread for a long time. It was you who brought the mafia team down by shooting our most vulnerable position. I can't blame you for that, but I also don't think you can blame us for it. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:24 Superbia wrote: Consider the scenarios, though. 1. Don't say anything: Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo. 2. Say something: This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point. 3. Say something and restart the game: I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder. I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM. If town is moronic enough to lynch off setup speculations, that's their problem. Not mine. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:29 Superbia wrote: They both got the exact same role names. I don't know, maybe town needed a hard wake up call in this regard. But then we'd have townies bringing heat to Sent in post-game. Correction: moron townies. Arguing that breaking rules to favor people who are dumb/bad makes no sense. | ||
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A single mason, who can talk to all the other masons. All of who are himself. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:46 ritoky wrote: The night I shot damdred, I basically had to. #1 because damdred has a fucking soul read on me, think he has gotten my alignment wrong once in the past 8 games or something, and he was mafia so he was probably just making shit up. secondly because if I don't shoot you there, and we fuck up the lynch the next day I am in an unwinnable position. the shennanie on you really fucked us both palm, cuz I wanted to kill you that night so that we would lynch town -> I kill mafia, lynch town -> I kill mafia; etc. until we were down to f5 or f3. unfortunately I thought I was mafia siding with slam all game and turns out I had him and rsoul flipped :/ I really wanted that LS lynch through, and if it was anyone who was normally coherent, I feel like it would have gone thru. Yeah I sort of get it. And we probably would have pushed you some if damdred was still alive. Like it was just a perfect storm. You shot the link in our team that we really couldn't afford to lose given how we had built our relationships. | ||
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On February 25 2015 23:31 LightningStrike wrote: Palmar would you sheep my case on prplhz if you weren't Mafia? I have no idea, I can't think like that. | ||
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On February 26 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am not you and i am not anyone else and when there is a game full of sucking Palmar's dick (who was btw doing nothing) there is nothing i can do. bitches love my schlong | ||
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Also why you think there's a SK in this game already Palmar when there not been any NK's yet?
