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On February 20 2015 16:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hi ritoky why didn't bh die you think?
roleblock him and let townies try and wifom BH as a ML is an easy strat. superbia not dying is the more odd one to me. if you're rbing a jk and his vet power is claimed to be expended....eh no point in going down the wifom road now when there's a clear scum in LS on the table.
if BH is alive tomorrow, then start thinking about it since medic alive through that many night phases while claimed is sketch-city.
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Verily. Anyway, ritoky what do you think of the venerable alakaslam? Truly I must seek out the position of my chupazic endeavors. Only the replies of others can assist me in this, so
Whatever main point, what do you think of me ritoky.
Now & again I will do this sort of stuff.
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Canada11355 Posts
Well with a dead rb it's not just sketch
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On February 20 2015 17:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well with a dead rb it's not just sketch
You still pushing Blazinghand?
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On February 20 2015 17:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Verily. Anyway, ritoky what do you think of the venerable alakaslam? Truly I must seek out the position of my chupazic endeavors. Only the replies of others can assist me in this, so
Whatever main point, what do you think of me ritoky.
Now & again I will do this sort of stuff.
I usually make really god tier reads on day 1 as town and I get into this bad habit over the course of the game of forgetting them or talking myself out of them. I had 2 real solid reads day 1 and it was robik town and slam town, so I plan to stick to them. that said you went from my top town to not my top town since last we spoke.
I was very surprised when you elected not to comment on my counter-nuking of the anti-chupazi movement on LS. even if it was an offhanded joke. It seemed like the kind of read that would really tickle your chupazi.
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BH is pretty much 95% town unless he survives the next night. then his % drops a lot.
no point in really considering him today as a candidate for lynch unless lots of role claims happen.
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On February 20 2015 17:11 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 17:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Verily. Anyway, ritoky what do you think of the venerable alakaslam? Truly I must seek out the position of my chupazic endeavors. Only the replies of others can assist me in this, so
Whatever main point, what do you think of me ritoky.
Now & again I will do this sort of stuff. I usually make really god tier reads on day 1 as town and I get into this bad habit over the course of the game of forgetting them or talking myself out of them. I had 2 real solid reads day 1 and it was robik town and slam town, so I plan to stick to them. that said you went from my top town to not my top town since last we spoke. I was very surprised when you elected not to comment on my counter-nuking of the anti-chupazi movement on LS. even if it was an offhanded joke. It seemed like the kind of read that would really tickle your chupazi.
I don't remember that?
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I got roleblocked day 1 FF. I cannot be the SK
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On February 20 2015 17:13 ritoky wrote:
BH is pretty much 95% town unless he survives the next night. then his % drops a lot.
no point in really considering him today as a candidate for lynch unless lots of role claims happen.
BH is town. Stop considering that wifom.
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On February 20 2015 16:55 ritoky wrote:
roleblock him and let townies try and wifom BH as a ML is an easy strat. superbia not dying is the more odd one to me. if you're rbing a jk and his vet power is claimed to be expended....eh no point in going down the wifom road now when there's a clear scum in LS on the table.
if BH is alive tomorrow, then start thinking about it since medic alive through that many night phases while claimed is sketch-city.
OP does not indicate roleblock preference between RB and JK, so we can assume that roleblocks resolve simultaneously, just as Superbia concluded with simultaneous KP.
If RB and JK roleblock resolve simultaneously, what you just said makes zero sense.
Basically you're arguing that mafia would roleblock but not kill a confirmed JK over a vet with no protection?
When that aforementioned JK still has a potential to roleblock a possible janitor in the mix?
You bore me, Ritoky.
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On February 20 2015 17:14 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 17:11 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 17:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Verily. Anyway, ritoky what do you think of the venerable alakaslam? Truly I must seek out the position of my chupazic endeavors. Only the replies of others can assist me in this, so
Whatever main point, what do you think of me ritoky.
Now & again I will do this sort of stuff. I usually make really god tier reads on day 1 as town and I get into this bad habit over the course of the game of forgetting them or talking myself out of them. I had 2 real solid reads day 1 and it was robik town and slam town, so I plan to stick to them. that said you went from my top town to not my top town since last we spoke. I was very surprised when you elected not to comment on my counter-nuking of the anti-chupazi movement on LS. even if it was an offhanded joke. It seemed like the kind of read that would really tickle your chupazi. I don't remember that?
? It dominated the entire night phase?
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
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The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer. I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary. Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol  I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked. your read is not only bad, but made up. I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS. Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them. so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play? WHAT? Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet. I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them? Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it. I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife. still kinda interested in this. she told you this where? cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you? cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.
it starts on 159 I think and goes for about 2 or 3 pages of me + bh showing exactly why LS is scum
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On February 20 2015 16:03 ritoky wrote:
if you're town right here HtS, which I am having a hard time believing, you need to re-orient yourself. there's literally 0 reason I am ever mafia in this game after what I did to LS. even if you don't like the slip, look at the completely manufactured and flipped read, if you don't like THAT and you're still unconvinced, look at the examination of my own meta and how he accuses me of a tunnel on you THEN RETRACTS IT then accuses me of a tunnel on him and only brings up 3 FRIGGIN POSTS as a "tunnel". sorry no dice, he tried to bs some read and got stomped.
With each post, Ritoky, you've just giving me more ammunition for your lynch.
So now you're going to try and pin LS on how he defines tunnel?
Why does this sound familiar? Oh wait! I know.
I was mafia godfather in Newbie LX and I successfully got him mislynched partially based on how LS defined tunnel (LS was VT). I took advantage of his incoherence.
On January 08 2015 05:45 Half the Sky wrote:LS, well, deary me. I was 50/50 on this guy but now he looks worse. I looked at the exchange between him and Rasputin and aside from the whole blue role controversy I'm just not buying this: Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 11:16 LightningStrike wrote:I thought that Shining didn't have a lot votes at the time and I tunneled to hard on TWW I'm sorry  As town, I don't know how not observing the votes near EoD would fly. He said he's tunnelled too hard on Waffle, so I decided to work backwards on read progression. Tunnelled? Really? Going through LS's filter, he goes on from a scum read post on Shining to a vote on WW on page 17, 17 minutes after Rasputin votes him. In his filter, there is zero progression to WW up to the time he votes him. After his vote I see one repetition in his filter of why he voted but I don't see any followup questions, or him making a bigger case. Then he says he's tunnelled on him. I don't even. It just seems to me too convenient of a vote. In contrast, Tubesock was actually tunnelled on WW and I could at least follow where he was coming from, why he asked the questions he did. In his filter there are 10+ posts with questions on WW and explanations on WW's read post. None of that from LS.
On January 08 2015 06:32 LightningStrike wrote:
I just tunelled to hard while I was worried about my mom but at least she is feeling much better now. I just couldn't concentrate at all at the time but WW was way more inactive in the thread that all I remember why I went after WW and also I was liking rsoultins post on why to vote WW too. I so lost right now to be honest with you like maybe one of my town reads is scum this game and I just denying it. I hope Day 2 gives me a fresh start on who is scum and who isn't.
And EVEN IN SPITE OF ME shooting him down on "tunnelling" his target, he STILL maintains he tunnelled in this game over a SINGLE post!!!! AS A BLOODY VT. I was mafia in that game.
And he's doing it again as VT? Not surprised.
I see you are doing just the same.
Congratulations Ritoky you know how to take advantage of LS!
If you're town right here, Ritoky, which I, and a few others remaining at this point all have a hard time believing, I think you ought to be the one that needs to re-orient yourself.
The Damdred/Breshke slot was just confirmed (flipped) scum.
Why don't you comment on both of Damdred and Breshke's filters and the way they tried to scumread LS, and particularly the way that Damdred tried to pin the scumslip on LS.
The fact that one person's filter is doing this is indicative, but two scummers' filters effectively saying the same thing....whereas a scum slip can be misused and misconstrued by the person using it, as Rasputin has already pointed out.
And like I said, Damdred tried to pin the so-called scum slip on LS, so there's already evidence of misuse of that scum slip.
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On February 20 2015 17:15 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 16:55 ritoky wrote:
roleblock him and let townies try and wifom BH as a ML is an easy strat. superbia not dying is the more odd one to me. if you're rbing a jk and his vet power is claimed to be expended....eh no point in going down the wifom road now when there's a clear scum in LS on the table.
if BH is alive tomorrow, then start thinking about it since medic alive through that many night phases while claimed is sketch-city. OP does not indicate roleblock preference between RB and JK, so we can assume that roleblocks resolve simultaneously, just as Superbia concluded with simultaneous KP. If RB and JK roleblock resolve simultaneously, what you just said makes zero sense. Basically you're arguing that mafia would roleblock but not kill a confirmed JK over a vet with no protection? When that aforementioned JK still has a potential to roleblock a possible janitor in the mix? You bore me, Ritoky.
someone prompted me to explain why BH could be alive....and I gave a potential reason? you done?
how about you address the fact that you used damdred's flip to try to call me mafia, yet I called breshke mafia since basically the start of the game and demonstrated the vote logic to show a damdred + LS team was very feasible last phase even before any of this stuff.
LS is scum, you need to get that through your head. BH is town you need to get that through your head. if you can't then you're probably scum too.
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Simple question HtS; I have asked it to you about 4 times now and you have not answered. You quoted it above and didn't address it. Why, if LS is town, does he meta read me as town for "not tunneling and not fighting" then when it is convenient later scum read me for "tunneling on you.....no wait him"? Explain it. It is a fabricated read.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
I was RBed
##vote LightningStrike
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Also if you look at your town reads there HtS, I think one of them had damdred as mafia in total.
Guess who did have damdred as mafia?
This guy.
Re-orient your reads quickly.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
hey ritoky, let's talk strategy realy quick. I can push on LS pretty hard if you want, but it might actually hurt the wagon since many players (who are not at your/my level) don't trust me for some reason. At the very least I'm gonna post a quick summary and a couple links, and do the usual respond-to-questions thing, but do you want a hard push on LS from me, or just the regular casewriting? I'm thinking a hard push would be counterproductive to getting LS lynched
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On February 20 2015 17:27 Blazinghand wrote:
hey ritoky, let's talk strategy realy quick. I can push on LS pretty hard if you want, but it might actually hurt the wagon since many players (who are not at your/my level) don't trust me for some reason. At the very least I'm gonna post a quick summary and a couple links, and do the usual respond-to-questions thing, but do you want a hard push on LS from me, or just the regular casewriting? I'm thinking a hard push would be counterproductive to getting LS lynched
Who would be the viable alternative to a LS lynch today?
I still don't have a firm opinion on VA like you do, so that's troublesome.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On February 20 2015 17:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 17:27 Blazinghand wrote:
hey ritoky, let's talk strategy realy quick. I can push on LS pretty hard if you want, but it might actually hurt the wagon since many players (who are not at your/my level) don't trust me for some reason. At the very least I'm gonna post a quick summary and a couple links, and do the usual respond-to-questions thing, but do you want a hard push on LS from me, or just the regular casewriting? I'm thinking a hard push would be counterproductive to getting LS lynched Who would be the viable alternative to a LS lynch today? I still don't have a firm opinion on VA like you do, so that's troublesome.
I'm voting LS either way, and writing a decent case on him, barring something very strange happening. The question is do you think it would help us lynch him if I want HAM on him or would it be better if I let you drive the wagon
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I just can't see how LS is not scum from his play. he slipped pretty clearly, he manufactured a read that is a direct contradiction, his defense was bad.....there's just so much there...I can't really see myself voting on anyone else at this point, but if you have a better case or equal one then I am up for hearing it.
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