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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 04 2015 17:23 GMT
#34
Rayn and DP. Sure why not.
/in
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 06 2015 23:02 GMT
#63
Oh dear god someone /out for Keirathi. Plzplzplzplzplzplzzplzplzzplzzplzplzzplzplz
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 07 2015 16:40 GMT
#96
Rayn don't get too excited. I'll probably make very few posts this game.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 07 2015 16:54 GMT
#100
On February 08 2015 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 07 2015 23:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 07 2015 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't play mafia while driving.
Ask geript, he knows.


Do I even want to know the story behind this?

geript once got "modconfrimed" as town when he posted he was driving and the co-host adviced people to not play when driving.
host-dick-move-analysis ftw! ^^

I think I've been mod confirmed more than any other person on TL. I think I've been mod confirmed 3-4 times. It's pretty silly. It's pretty much why hosts shouldn't interact in the thread unless it's a generic warning or for modkills. Like in one of my first games Palmer and DP got confirmed for a fake nuke. It was rather hilarious. It was even funnier because mafia got steamrolled that game. We lynched the Mafia nuke after they could launch, nuked Mafia and the nuked mafia again. Game was called before the D2 lynch.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 07 2015 16:55 GMT
#101
On February 08 2015 01:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On February 08 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 01:40 geript wrote:
Rayn don't get too excited. I'll probably make very few posts this game.

I don't care. Just find scum.

You sure you want him to do that if you roll scum?

He always wants me to find mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 06:10 GMT
#528
Catching up:
On February 08 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
slam is town.
dis is good.

This is a really bad read. Nothing Slam had done to this point was actually alignment indicative. Rayn is worse at reading Slam than I am, but even Rayn shouldn't be saying this here.

On February 08 2015 05:28 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 05:22 Damdred wrote:
Second confirmed town

what if i said Onegu is pretty damn confirmed town aswell?


I would actually agree with you more than likely,

This is actually false too. Onegu's play is slightly different as town and mafia. Onegu posting at this point isn't alignment indicative either. I think I like Damdred for confirming this less than Rayn but meh.

On February 08 2015 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On February 08 2015 05:30 Alakaslam wrote:
I don't see a cava on playerlist


I'm right here wtf.

Soft town read. I need to go back and look as to how I was able to read OWS previously. But feels a bit towny in attitude.

On February 08 2015 05:37 Onegu wrote:
##VOTE: Geript


because he said we weren't friends anymore.

What? I don't think I ever said that. That said, I don't think mafia Onegu actually says anything like this. I really wanted to push a lynch on you too. BTW, hope your son is doing well.

On February 08 2015 05:49 Alakaslam wrote:
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On February 08 2015 05:42 Damdred wrote:
Total mind meld going on with rayn and slam its kinda scary



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On Omgus.net, Strait jacket said:
on omgus slam said
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On omgus strait jacket said

ok, i've been researching and stuff but I'll probably be noobish anyway, but I'll totally be active if nothing else

Huh

Did Raynepelikoneet join this?

(LoL OMGUS is my fresch aire)

...
i don't even

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Look deep into the eyes of Alakaslam, and I shall make thine handle speak soothly of thy condition. Thou shalt be in the care of the Kushm4sta

P.S. I forgot I meant to quote your comment about hostility

You ain't seen nothin till you seen raynpelikoneet bring it out of everyone

He can piss me off he can piss you off


Kush works at an asylum for the elderly

Fear deeply[/QUOTE]
This post actually deeply bugs me. I feel like I've seen it before. I don't think I've ever seen Slam quote his own posts before. I think it's from a game where Rayn was reading Slam wrong and I was too for a bit until I had a weird heart to heart with him. I think Rayn got modkilled that game too. Cell Maybe? But Slam quoting his own posts is really, really alarming to me.

On February 08 2015 06:03 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 08 2015 05:57 Keirathi wrote:
Yo wtf is this wagon bullshit?

Stop being bad rayn. You know I'm not mafia.

explain the underlined then.
why should i know you are not mafia?

Are you insinuating that if I was mafia, that that sentence makes more sense?

Obviously you don't know if I'm mafia or not, but you are also smart enough to know that my first post doesn't make me mafia since I literally post some silly fluff thing in my first post of every recent game I've played.

I don't think this is actually true. I think I had an easy townread on you in Catastrophe? from like 2-3 posts. Very meh so far.

On February 08 2015 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:11 Keirathi wrote:
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On February 08 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you quite.. dodged the question in your last reply.

Omfg yea I'm really just going to ignore you if you're not even going to read what I write.

this is literally the conversation we had (paraphrased):
rayn: Keir is mafia
Keir: you should know i am not mafia
rayn: why should i think you are town?
Keir: you should not think i am mafia
rayn: you said i should think you are town, why?
Keir: OMG YOURE NOT READING!!!

see the point?

I don't hate this push, but I don't love this push. My feeling is that this is literally going to turn into nothing worthwhile. Like I'm not even sure if I like Rayn more or less for making the push. I'm just going to assume in the next 18 pages I get a solid read on both of these two.

On February 08 2015 06:29 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:27 Onegu wrote:
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On February 08 2015 06:23 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like you literally suggested there is something i should think you are town for, which there is definitely not.
you can't apparently point that something out.
can you?



On February 08 2015 06:20 Keirathi wrote:
Yes because I was obviously being 100% totally serious pants.


The major mistake here was that you took "You know I'm not mafia" as some literal thing I was saying. It wasn't.

You SHOULD know that making some silly comment for my first post doesn't make me mafia like you originally claimed, but you are right that it doesn't make me town either.

Anyways, glad we got that out of the way.



Do you have a read on Rayn from this other than just bad?

I've never played with scum rayn, but he seems pretty similar to every other game I've played with him. He's probably town.

I really don't like this read from Keirathi. Like Keir's reads are usually better than this. Rayn's early pushes are usually better, stronger, more urge/fury driven as town. Like he's even usually more annoying and tunnelly. Ugggh.

On February 08 2015 06:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:47 Keirathi wrote:
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On February 08 2015 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rayn it feels like you're trying to make up reasons to call keir scum.... I guess I don't have enough meta on him? First post silliness is par for the course around here, isn't it?

so you can't see it?
If you called me amfia now and i went all "YOU SHOULD THINK I AM TOWN YOU SO BAD WOW SUCH TERRIBLE" would you call that a natural response?

Ok I see your point. I don't think he went full-caps but the response is a little strange for 2hours into the game.

Is it just the reaction or has he given you more reason since the 'you know I'm not mafia' post?

It's just rayn doing the same thing he does every game we play together. He thinks I'm scum on day 1 because I play differently than he does, he's wrong, and then we eventually end up working together to win the game.

It's happened in every single game we've played together, and there's nothing else worth talking about so I'm just stringing him along.


Isn't that anti-town, though? I know that if you get rayn all hot and start a shitstorm there will be 100 pages next time I go afk and I'll become demotivated all over again

Like I really hate this post. Keirathi's become trolly and rayn's become kinda trolly. Like I kinda think both of them are town (keir moreso though), but this post does nothing for me. It's generic and IDK if I even believe the demotivated part. Idk maybe. Questionable pile for now.

On February 08 2015 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FF get's a 98% town pass.
now dis game ez.

Rayn's reading the game completely differently. I really hate this townread. It's kinda weird though, it is a read that town!Rayn would make here. It's still a bad read though.

On February 08 2015 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 06:51 liancourt wrote:
who's scum now?

Keirathi maybe SL.

Please don't shit up the thread too much sweetheart. This read is probably wrong too. His trolly response to you was really towny and you should've realized that.

On February 08 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote:
Actually I also think lian is town for a really shit reason. That I think is totally right.

see questions...

On February 08 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but to the game i really hitnk Keirathi is mafia nd if geript is town he is going to tell you the same thing.

I'm going to explain my Keirathi read and why I disagree. First, + Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2015 06:48 Keirathi wrote:
I wonder how high I can get that number up in one day!
very rarely do mafia go with trolly responses continuing to dissuade people. That's because it literally does nothing to move pressure around. Quite often though, when town gets annoyed they respond by trolling because it's both fun and you get the added benefit of potentially annoying the person who annoys you. Like Palmer would do it as any alignment but Keirathi I don't think does. This isn't to say that I don't expect to see at least 1 good post from Keirathi by the point at which I finish the thread up to this point, but so far I'm kinda thinking Rayn v Keir is town on town.

On February 08 2015 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
I think dandreds town for that stupid read

So many bad reads. Such little town. Q pile for now

On February 08 2015 07:07 Onegu wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:
I have missed playing with you rayn. Never get banned again

+1

I kinda think this makes Onegu a bit townier. Idk. It's weird. Usually Onegu is a bit more active/have fun-ish as town. Feels very "in the spirit of the moment" posty.

On February 08 2015 07:11 sicklucker wrote:
Well heres my one read so far. Dandreds like 90% town for that lian post. Hes still a pussy mafia. I dont think he would come out with such a weak "tone read" if hes mafia he wouuld throw out someone more standard. He did alot of these tone reads as town before as well.

Maybe it's not a bad read. I still expect more from Damdred than what he's posted so far. Nothing's screamed town to me from what he's posted so far.

On February 08 2015 07:27 Keirathi wrote:
Hey slam, in your own words, why am I mafia?

I like this because I really like the target. Slam is actually not an easy mislynch target in this game and Keir would know this.

On February 08 2015 07:35 liancourt wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:34 Keirathi wrote:
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On February 08 2015 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:31 liancourt wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:25 liancourt wrote:
from playing on tl i've seen people play like that as their town meta, from the top of my head i can think of LS and toad. I don't actually regret mling them however I do think we should compare keira meta with how keira plays normally. Is keira more aggressive normally?

Not really. He just isn't useless when there is things to talk about.
He is a really good player.


if he is a good player and he's being useless now then I can definitely vote him.

are you asking me if he is or isn't useless now?

Nono, he's saying that since you think I am a good player, and since I am being useless, that he can vote me.


yes. hey you just admitted you are being useless!

This is a really bad post. Like Keirathi is actually making a decent point here and this only serves to pick at him.

On February 08 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote:
Keir has a scum lean because of his super defensiveness.

SL might be scum.

idk about the third

I actually really don't like Damdred for this post. Like this is 100% wrong. Keir isn't being scumread for being defensive. Damdred in my experience as town follows the thread better than this even if he is busy. Like this is really lazy and it's not even thinking about the situation or what's been posted at all. Like this is really, really fucking scummy. Let me repeat. [b]Damdred not only gets the reason for Keirathi being scumread wrong; he moreso shows that he hasn't been thinking about how to read Keirathi whatsoever. Town!Damdred should have a better read on Keirathi here.

On February 08 2015 07:44 Keirathi wrote:
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On February 08 2015 07:39 liancourt wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:35 liancourt wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:34 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:31 liancourt wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 07:25 liancourt wrote:
from playing on tl i've seen people play like that as their town meta, from the top of my head i can think of LS and toad. I don't actually regret mling them however I do think we should compare keira meta with how keira plays normally. Is keira more aggressive normally?

Not really. He just isn't useless when there is things to talk about.
He is a really good player.


if he is a good player and he's being useless now then I can definitely vote him.

are you asking me if he is or isn't useless now?

Nono, he's saying that since you think I am a good player, and since I am being useless, that he can vote me.


yes. hey you just admitted you are being useless!

Is that a shock? Have you not read the game to realize I haven't said anything of consequence? :o


you're here now

I'm not sure what your point is?

If I had something useful to contribute, I would have.

Rayn is here telling you that I'm this really good mafia player, but neglecting to tell you that very rarely am I useful on day 1, much less 2.5 hours into the game. I read the game and people differently than he (and most people) do. Not in a way that I can be any kind of comfortable in reads in an hour or two. I read patterns, long term strategy, meta, etc. All this posting that has happened so far is just BS to me, really.

tl;dr: If you're going to vote me, I'm going to make you work for it. I play better under pressure and it helps me develop reads when I can make people defend their own position towards me.

This is also untrue. Keir is actually quite useful on D1. IDK if he's usually right on D1, but in my experience he's not "very rarely useful on D1. Down to don't lynch pile.

On February 08 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote:
Keirathi is reminding me of my last two scum games where I got pinged out from my usual non alignment indignitive spam and I had to claw out of it. Too defensive too early. I made this mistake alot as scum recently

meh, meh meh

On February 08 2015 08:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On February 08 2015 08:21 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 08:18 liancourt wrote:
i dont see how looking at out of context posts helps us play this game. You could have posted scummy posts when you were town. You could have posted townie posts when you were scum. Scum don't post scummy posts all the time and town don't post townie posts all the time. What is the purpose of this lol

ASKLJDLAKJSLKDJALKSJDSL

SL just said that he was voting me for being angry and defensive. It's not about context, it's about the fact that being angry and defensive doesn't make me mafia and people are just making easy votes.


Rofl. Keirathi is funny.

meh, meh, meh, meh, meh

On February 08 2015 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 08 2015 08:52 Keirathi wrote:
Slam's is the worst so far.

Slam is almost definitely town based purely on meta which you love so much.
Apparently does not apply here.

Nope. Wrong. Slam can be town here, but I actually think he's not. I'm really surprised you're townreading him so hard too. Like, he's started playing differently; but I don't think this is that much like where he replaced me in void (granted I didn't super follow that game [spoiler=For Slam]BTW, all you had to do was sheep me that game. I have right reads all over the place[/spoiler]).

On February 08 2015 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 08 2015 08:58 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 08:52 Keirathi wrote:
Slam's is the worst so far.

Slam is almost definitely town based purely on meta which you love so much.
Apparently does not apply here.

Oh, what meta is that?

I don't think I've ever actually played with Slam? I'm not sure, maybe once before, but I certainly don't know how to read him.

he is happy, trying to play the game and has a though process of some sort regardless of it makes sense to you/me/anyone. It makes him totes town. like 101%.

He looks happy. But he actually can fake that as mafia. He's not actually done anything that he couldn't do as mafia yet. And him quoting a post that I'm like 99% sure was from cell I think it was is really, really bugging me. Like that's really out of Slam's wheelhouse generally as I recall.

On February 08 2015 09:03 sicklucker wrote:
Lian actually looked at the database? TOWN

Again. No. God dammit people. Like how much wrong do I have to point out. I want to call all you fuckers making bad fucking reads mafia.



Sidenote: I think one of the major things that really bugs me about slam is that usually as town, he kinda does his own thing for a while too. I couldn't quite place it initially, but the quite sheep onto Keir is one of the things that actually really bugs me about him. I'm moving him down to mafia pile for now and see how I feel about that at the end of the read through.


On February 08 2015 09:35 Alakaslam wrote:
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On February 08 2015 08:19 Keirathi wrote:
On February 08 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2015 08:14 sicklucker wrote:
Keirathi ill play but dont give the answers untill rayn plays too because hes actually good at mafia and im only his deputy


It is impossible to tell without context but probably all town, for funsies.

On February 08 2015 08:18 sicklucker wrote:
#1 Mafia

#2 Mafia

#3 Town

#4 Mafia

#5 Town


#1 town
#2 town
#3 mafia
#4 mafia
#5 town

So you got 2/5, rayn got 3/5 for being lazy

Shit rofl

Maybe I'm really biased right now, but normally town!Slam, even new town!Slam, would play along with this game in some way. Not just meh post it.

On February 08 2015 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Keirathi it actually is interesting you brought up only Slam and noone else at that point. Like Slam is the easiest person to attack because he does not make sense to much people regardless of what he says. Damdred has a point.

I'm a known Slam whisperer. You've been known to read him well too though. He's not "the easiest person to attack" this game.

On February 08 2015 09:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure i am abotu the best person ton this planet to read Slam, afaik he has never been lynched as town when i have been alive as town, and it's not gonna happen this game either.

Like, no. Just no. You got your read from me. Everyone got their Slam read from me. I was the one who found that read. I was the one who's always used it correctly. You wanted to mislynch Slam that game and I had to defend him and you thought I was scum for it too I think that game. Granted you also said I'd bus him if I were mafia too that game. But even still, I have a perfect read on Slam. You don't. You really need to read my reasons for thinking he's not town.

On February 08 2015 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah okay it makes sense Keir.
It doesn't make Damdred's observation bad though.

In fact i think it's one of the most perceptive things happened in this game.

Maybe I missed something, but could you point this out to me. Because I didn't see any amazeballs Damdred read yet so far. I even think Damdred's mafia so...

On February 08 2015 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 08 2015 10:15 Keirathi wrote:
@BH: Please add this to OP.
Player List

1) raynpelikoneet
2) geript
3) Onegu
4) Fecalfeast
5) liancourt
6) ObiWanShinobi
7) gobbledydook
8) Keirathi
9) Damdred
10) LoneMeow
11) sicklucker
12) Alakaslam
13) LightningStrike

man I want to townread you just for this

No. Just no. Like I really just want to start strangling myself at this point. I'd pull out my hair, but I literally just shaved my head. No.

On February 08 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm here now sorry I went skeet shooting with my Dad and now home and caught up I liking Damdred and Rayn so far and sicklucker is the hardest person to read correctly in Day 1 guys just from my experience playing with him. Lian I liking a tiny bit and FF is a question mark for me. Keirathi is null for me atm. The last time I seen this type of post from slam:
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On February 08 2015 05:49 Alakaslam wrote:
On February 08 2015 05:42 Damdred wrote:
Total mind meld going on with rayn and slam its kinda scary



On Omgus.net, Strait jacket said:
on omgus slam said
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On omgus strait jacket said

ok, i've been researching and stuff but I'll probably be noobish anyway, but I'll totally be active if nothing else

Huh

Did Raynepelikoneet join this?

(LoL OMGUS is my fresch aire)

...
i don't even

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Look deep into the eyes of Alakaslam, and I shall make thine handle speak soothly of thy condition. Thou shalt be in the care of the Kushm4sta

P.S. I forgot I meant to quote your comment about hostility

You ain't seen nothin till you seen raynpelikoneet bring it out of everyone

He can piss me off he can piss you off

Kush works at an asylum for the elderly

Fear deeply


He was mafia but everyone told me that Slam is hard to read so null for him atm.

I can't really explain this, but I don't think LS is town here. IDK what it is, but this post feels very, very different from the games I've seen LS as town in. I could be wrong on this though. Maybe it will come to me, but I feel like this post is missing something and I can't quite place my finger on it. A lot like my HTS read in void.

On February 08 2015 12:50 gobbledydook wrote:
I don't like where rayn's train is going.
so we're talking a few minutes into the game, it's been mostly trolling shit and then slam comes up with this random keirathi scumread because keirathi said something trolly. and then rayn goes 'why did you roll scum', like, it's literally half an hour into game and keirathi has said one post. ok, so it's pretty normal for anyone, alignment non-indicative, to go wtf? and then goes like 20 pages of back and forth witchhunt because there's literally nothing else going on other than rayn: keir y u no do towny shit, keir: theres nothign to talk about, rayn: give reads, keir: theres really nothing to talk about except this bullshit wagon, rayn: see he's not contributing lynch his ass. really? meanwhile rayn goes and townreads like 10 other people without really any reason, and i don't think asking him why would help because there's really no reason to townread 10 people in the first few hours of d1...

so may i ask, wtf is rayn actually doing, is he just bringing us around for a ring around the rosey while appearing to be town because he's been posting a lot?

But Keir has done some towny shit. Like idk, meh pile. I'll read this filter tomorrow for sure; the general summary kinda bugs me too even if I think it's correct.

[B]On February 08 2015 13:41 gobbledydook wrote:
i just think this keirathi wagon is bad, and u shouldnt just assume rayn is town because he generated this twenty page wagon. you know well that he can do this whether town or scum. its certainly a better performance than many in this thread, but i wouldnt recommend trusting everything he says.

Down to questionable. This post actually doesn't point towards anything. Like it feels like gobble should have his own idea of where the thread should go, but there's no sort of idea or direction yet. Maybe mafia too

Town:
Onegu


Don't lynch for now:
Rayn
Keirathi

Null:
Anyone I haven't listed

Questionable:
gobbledygook
Fecalfeast
sicklucker
LightningStrike

Mafia:
Damdred
Alakaslam

1. @Rayn & Damdred: Why is liancourt town? I don't get it.
2. @Slam. Write me a love letter that will make me swoon.
3. @Rayn.... Damdred amazeballs read? Where?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 06:18 GMT
#532
On February 08 2015 15:14 Keirathi wrote:
Oh hey geript, you finally showed up!

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I shall protect you milady!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 06:19 GMT
#533
On February 08 2015 15:17 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 14:38 geript wrote:
On January 25 2015 13:38 Onegu wrote:
On January 25 2015 07:29 Palmar wrote:
I suggested this for my own benefit.

Do you guys think it's a good idea?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/476384-suggestion-for-shared-community-forums-mafia

Yes this! I'm mostly on the hearthstone site. Not having to log in on both would be really nice.

You play hearthstone? I don't know if we can be friends anymore.



I fail at quotes also

Meh, that was sarcasm but eh.
What do you think of Damdred and why?
Also, what's your read on SL and gobbledygook and why?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 07:00 GMT
#539
On February 08 2015 15:39 Keirathi wrote:
@geript: Just finished reading your big post carefully.

1) Most importantly, can amazeballs be the buzzword for this game? There's one every game that people keep using after one person says it, and I think I should get to coin the buzzword for this one. I'm voting amazeballs.

2) About Slamdred: Do you think it likely that if they are both scum, they both hop on my wagon so easily?

Well, I guess they were both only nominally on my wagon. Neither actually voted or pushed me or anything. Hmm.


+ Show Spoiler [Side Note] +
You may have town read me in 2-3 posts in Catastrophe, but it certainly wasn't for being useful. Something like 80% of my posts in that game were trolly talking about chocolate and cookies and stuff, lol.

Both Slam and Damdred can be town. They're independent reads. Both can hop on as mafia I think as well. Mostly considering the timing of both. But I'm not the best vote analysis/general thread timing bandwagon hopper onering person; I think it's better to read them for what they have and haven't done (and do) rather than timing issues for either.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 07:02 GMT
#540
Maybe I'm fearing my mostly town read on Rayn because of DP, but him still pushing Keir is bugging me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 07:04 GMT
#542
On February 08 2015 16:03 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 16:02 geript wrote:
Maybe I'm fearing my mostly town read on Rayn because of DP, but him still pushing Keir is bugging me.

You're one to talk. You pushed me for like 4 game days in that one crazy setup game!

That was like my third game though. That's not really comparable imo.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 07:09 GMT
#544
On February 08 2015 16:05 gobbledydook wrote:
i went over damdreds posts. @geript i agree that his keir scumread is pretty bad. then i got to the part where he questions sickluckers reads, and i thought that felt like a townie trying to pin down sicklucker rather than scumplay. then he questions me, and i thought that was reasonable too. you only touched on damdreds bad keir read what do u think of the other 2 points i said?

Can you point out which posts you specifically liked?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 07:32 GMT
#547
Yah, those posts in no way make my peepee hard. Like they're exceptionally meh to me. Like I could be wrong on Damdred, but those posts don't actually make me think that Damdred's thinking about the game at all. They're very surface level and weak.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 17:42 GMT
#595
On February 09 2015 01:43 sicklucker wrote:
geript why are my reads bad... Like there all probably right explain to me why there "bad"

A read being right doesn't make it a good read.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:15 GMT
#616
On February 09 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote lian

Would also be willing to wagon geript for his list post. He has 4 people in his questionable pile in yet questions none of them and seems to be perfectly fine with the players giving reads he thinks are unacceptable. There's no way for him to think that all 4 of those players are mafia, in yet he doesn't bother to consult any of them or sort any of it out despite already having two people in his scumlist.

How is me getting an aneurism about all these stupid reads that have been thrown out me being ok with those people? How is me having 4 people in the questionable pile but not questioning any of them because there's actually nothing worthwhile asking them in any way scummy? How can you possibly think that me having 4 questionable and 2 scum reads odd? Especially when I've been upfront that my mafia reads may still be wrong. Explain your shit because it's the dumbest or scumest shit in the thread so far. Like you've played long enough and with me enough to know that what you posted is worse than newbie level. Because this is so inane and fucktarded that I can only assume you're mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:23 GMT
#621
On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.

I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.

(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.)

Fuck it. OWS is 100% mafia. He never actually gives any reasonable reason for thinking Keir is town. Like there are actually ways to read Keir based on what he's done and what he's doing, but he doesn't actually end up with any fucking read on Keir. He just doesn't like the wagon. On top of that, the people who he's suspect of are: LM (who I don't think has posted), Liancourt (who's exceptionally forgettable--and fine), and me.

Not only does he dislike me for complete shit reasons, I'm the only person who actually has a townread on Keir and I've explained the townread clearly and thoroughly. Like it's a really damn good read. If OWS dislikes the Keir push and I'm the only person who actively is against said read, don't you think that in some way is memorable? Like wouldn't something in that stick and resonate? No, he's doesn't give a fuck about that whatsoever and is looking at completely shitty perpipherals. WTFF????? How can this guy even be town?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:27 GMT
#626
Congratulations. Today we are lynching OWS. Anyone who doesn't sheep me will be tonight or lynched tomorrow. Like he wants to throw suspicion my way and is voting for an AFK when he agrees with on of my main points in my post. Like there is no conceivable way I can even think that a townie could think, "Hey, I agree with this major point that this guy is bringing up, but he's got 6 people listed in his scumgroup and there's no way he could think they're all mafia and he doesn't ask/question/pressure them so therefore he's clearly mafia but I'm too much of a pussy to actually pressure or push him. So I'll just vote this guy who's clearly lynchbait." Like how does that make any fucking sense?????

This guy is mafia and we are lynching his ass right now.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:31 GMT
#630
On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.

I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.

(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.)

This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:32 GMT
#631
On February 09 2015 05:29 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:10 liancourt wrote:
my being happy about the 2 wagons make me mafia? ok it's your logic. I know you are prone to be actually more illogical when you're town so you're a townread just for that lol

What do you think of the 2 wagons then?


/shrug

That's the best basis I have for my vote right now. I don't like the Keirathi wagon and I'm kind of "eh" on the gobbeldy wagon.


more town points for u and i m not being sarcastic. the way ur playing counter logic wise is the way i see town obi play

Explain and cite multiple games where this has happened. This is like the biggest BS. Like this ows read is complete shit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:48 GMT
#637
On February 09 2015 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:31 geript wrote:
On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.

I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.

(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.)

This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die.


I don't understand the point on my meta.
I don't like lynching people for bad reasons and, if the reasons are bad, it makes me believe that the lynch is a bad lynch. How is that not a townread or any other kind of read, for that matter?
I don't see how you thinking Keirathi is town should have any impact on my read on you.

Bad reasons = bad lynch? WTF? Seriously. Bad reasons are bad reasons. The number of times I've seen mafia lynched for god awful reasons I can't even remember. Like, "oh X person clearly just told his mafia teammates to bus him so let's lynch him." No. "X person didn't post within the first 5 minutes of a game (when X person was clearly asleep). Let's lynch them." No. Just like bad reasons don't make someone mafia, they don't make someone town. Like that's complete bullshit. Please continue to lie and bullshit around.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#641
On February 09 2015 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:48 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:31 geript wrote:
On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.

I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.

(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.)

This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die.


I don't understand the point on my meta.
I don't like lynching people for bad reasons and, if the reasons are bad, it makes me believe that the lynch is a bad lynch. How is that not a townread or any other kind of read, for that matter?
I don't see how you thinking Keirathi is town should have any impact on my read on you.

Bad reasons = bad lynch? WTF? Seriously. Bad reasons are bad reasons. The number of times I've seen mafia lynched for god awful reasons I can't even remember. Like, "oh X person clearly just told his mafia teammates to bus him so let's lynch him." No. "X person didn't post within the first 5 minutes of a game (when X person was clearly asleep). Let's lynch them." No. Just like bad reasons don't make someone mafia, they don't make someone town. Like that's complete bullshit. Please continue to lie and bullshit around.


I don't think about the game the same way you do.

I never fault people for thinking about the game differently from me. Never is. You're literally just spewing bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense. These are things that you are reasonable enough to know are bullshit. How does me having 6 people in my "mafia circle" in any way make any sense if I'm mafia? Especially, when I've flat out stated why I can be wrong on multiples. Especially when I've pointed out why I think each of those people are mafia. Especially when I've pointed out why each of those people are questionable? How does me calling every idiot who's made a god awful idiotic read mafia make any sense as any alignment? Like clearly not every idiot can be mafia; clearly not every idiotic read can come from mafia. You're literally voting for someone who according to your filter is forgettable and meh while saying X other person who has too many people and can't think they're all mafia is probably mafia make any sense?

You haven't gotten to a townread on Keir and have just essentially ignored the wagon for godawful and likely made up reasons. You've voted for someone who is lynchbait at best. You're trying to mafia read the most clearly obviously towny motherfucker from his first fucking post for fucking terrible reasons. You know who does that shit? Mafia. Because they don't fucking know how to fucking read anyone because they're not fucking town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 03:55 GMT
#792
On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that?

Hmm, not really sure I buy it.

I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity?

What makes you think he is scum?


A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc.,

Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again.

I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.

So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 04:02 GMT
#795
On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that?

Hmm, not really sure I buy it.

I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity?

What makes you think he is scum?


A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc.,

Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again.

I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.

So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.


I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all.

Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 04:02 GMT
#796
On February 09 2015 13:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Did gd really call me useless?

Gd did you actually read my filter or what? I've given reads on a large number of players but apparently you haven't put any stock into that at all. How do you not have a read on me?

If the shoe fits...
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 04:11 GMT
#800
On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that?

Hmm, not really sure I buy it.

I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity?

What makes you think he is scum?


A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc.,

Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again.

I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.

So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.


I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all.

Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine.


Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way.

Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting.

However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all.

I haven't dropped Obi. We're fucking lynching his ass. Like I also haven't dropped some of the earlier stuff, but the threads been pretty dead and when it's not it's been pretty worthless. Like there really isn't much more to say since I was in this after noon. Like Obi's read on me plus his non-read on Keir plus his complete batshit crazy but not really batshit cray cray is amazeballs scummy. How do you not get that? Like he literally glosses over great points that he should agree with and support, two things which he doesn't do in any way, to focus on the most peripheral bullshit ever. Like it's completely hilarious. Why don't you want to lynch the fuck out of OWScum?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 04:13 GMT
#803
On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that?

Hmm, not really sure I buy it.

I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity?

What makes you think he is scum?


A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc.,

Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again.

I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.

So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.


I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all.

Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine.


Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way.

Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting.

However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all.

Also, I've meta'd you a number of times. You do post less as mafia generally. My point was that when I called you mafia before it had nothing to do with the fact that you were practically MIA. Like it's still a really good point I made which I have since forgotten. Like if you're town you're being really bad by ignoring my good points and calling me mafia for completely fucking terrible "reasons."
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 04:14 GMT
#805
On February 09 2015 13:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:11 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that?

Hmm, not really sure I buy it.

I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity?

What makes you think he is scum?


A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc.,

Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again.

I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.

So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.


I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all.

Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine.


Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way.

Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting.

However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all.

I haven't dropped Obi. We're fucking lynching his ass. Like I also haven't dropped some of the earlier stuff, but the threads been pretty dead and when it's not it's been pretty worthless. Like there really isn't much more to say since I was in this after noon. Like Obi's read on me plus his non-read on Keir plus his complete batshit crazy but not really batshit cray cray is amazeballs scummy. How do you not get that? Like he literally glosses over great points that he should agree with and support, two things which he doesn't do in any way, to focus on the most peripheral bullshit ever. Like it's completely hilarious. Why don't you want to lynch the fuck out of OWScum?


So you want to lynch me because I scumread you and don't agree with you?

Well okay then.

Nope. We're lynching you because I'm obviously town and your read literally is the least towny read on anyone in the whole fucking thread. And that's with all the bullshit reads that have been flying around left and right.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 04:17 GMT
#810
I really don't get why I keep on playing with you guys. Most of you are fucking terrible and think you can read me and never fucking can. It's annoying as hell to deal with. Hello idiots. I'm not mafia. You can clearly see that in my first fucking post. Your brain. Use it. Like goddamn people will you ever learn anything?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 04:18 GMT
#811
On February 09 2015 13:16 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:13 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that?

Hmm, not really sure I buy it.

I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours.

Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity?

What makes you think he is scum?


A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc.,

Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again.

I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.

So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.


I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all.

Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine.


Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way.

Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting.

However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all.

Also, I've meta'd you a number of times. You do post less as mafia generally. My point was that when I called you mafia before it had nothing to do with the fact that you were practically MIA. Like it's still a really good point I made which I have since forgotten. Like if you're town you're being really bad by ignoring my good points and calling me mafia for completely fucking terrible "reasons."



What is your current read on Damdred then? Also gobble?

I still think Damdred's a bit scummy but I've only skimmed from when I was tunneling OWS this afternoon. Gobble, idk. Pretty suspicious. Haven't filtered him yet either.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 04:19 GMT
#814
On February 09 2015 13:17 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On February 09 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:
OWS did you end up looking at what I've posted on gobble at this point?


Mostly.


And?

And OWS is clearly fucking mafia. Like what else do you need him to fucking say? Do you want him to claim it from the mountaintops or something? How do you not fucking see that OWS is fucking fuvking mafia maiaf aifam. Like jessu

For town:
Lynch OWS
Lynch Damdred
Win game
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 04:31 GMT
#820
One last thing I had before I play something for a bit to cool off. I remembered this because of a different game, but LS actually struck me as feeling a bit different than he did in either the newbie game or whatever the last game where I fucked up the DP read.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 04:53 GMT
#826
On February 09 2015 13:46 Keirathi wrote:
Also @geript:

Where you at on gobble? You have him in your questionable pile but keep refusing to talk about him.

I haven't filtered him yet. I think he posted a bit more during the night and some today. I just don't really have a formed opinion on him. I need to filter him. I'll do it tonight before I head to bed.

Also, I can be tunneled on OWS, but his read on me is really fucking weird. Like uber weird. Like he's reading me as mafia while putting his vote down on someone else and his reasons for reading me mafia are worse than shit tier and make no sort of sense in any direction. Like how is it that a towny does that. Oh I'll plop my vote on Joe Shmoe random who I've said basically nothing about and can't really have a read on, but the guy I really want to lynch is Pretty Boy Sly who has a read I agree with but don't comment on who's "magically" reading 6 people as mafia and shit.

Like he's literally asking permission to start a wagon on me while voting for someone else that he's barely spoken about other than being forgettable. Like that's really fucking scummy.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 04:59 GMT
#830
Like I can't even get away from it how much it annoys me that nobody else is just instant voting for the guy. He's literally picking the easiest lynchbait of all lynchbait to vote for and saying, "But who I really want to vote for is this guy. But I can't vote for him because I'm a pussy. Here's my reasons for wanting to vote for this guy but I'm not voting for this guy, I'm voting for that guy because who the fuck cares if I vote for that guy."
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 05:01 GMT
#831
On February 09 2015 13:59 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
Keirathi, who else is scum besides gobble do you think? I think your scum reading gobble at least.

I think theres probably 2 within gobbo/slam/lian/maybe LM.

Ask me again after flips.

Slam's weird. I need to reread his post to me again, but it did nothing for my peepee last time I read it and it I read it like 3 times trying to get it. I had a passing thought that he was trying to blue claim to me but idk why.
geript
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February 09 2015 07:55 GMT
#841
The best reasons for gobble being mafia are the reasons I gave. He should've had an idea of where to go/look but he didn't. Neither did he find any. It's not a bad lynch.

OWS is still a much, much better lynch. Tl;dr edition--
1. Has no reasons for his vote
2. Votes for a guy while trying to lynch someone else
3. Reasons for wanting to vote someone else are the worst made up shit ever
4. Is the most useless poster ever
5. Magical "townread" (which isn't really a townread) on Keir because the reasons for pushing him were bad/lame

Like seriously people just lynch that fuck and be done with it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 17:28 GMT
#872
Sigh
geript
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February 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#874
Rayn. OWS = Toadestern. You know the game.
geript
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February 09 2015 17:33 GMT
#877
On February 10 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript do you know why Keirathi thinks anyone in this game is mafia?

Off the top of my head? No. But I also know that I begged Keir to play a game and that he hasn't because irl. I think there are other reasons to find Keir town that you're glossing over.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 17:35 GMT
#879
Yah. If you guys would consolidate on OWS I'd be much happier.
geript
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February 09 2015 17:41 GMT
#884
That's basically what you said about toad too.
geript
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February 09 2015 17:48 GMT
#888
On February 10 2015 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 02:41 geript wrote:
That's basically what you said about toad too.

Yeah well i still lynched mafia.
We can go back to this argument on D2 but Keirathi is mafia.

You lynched mafia because HF bussed the fuck out of suki. Sheeping HF bussing isn't really lynching mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 17:48 GMT
#889
On February 10 2015 02:44 Damdred wrote:
Maybe we could lynch gobble and if we have a vig they shoot kei over night! its the best of both worlds!

And when they both flip town we'll lynch you and Rayn. It's like the best of both worlds!!!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 17:51 GMT
#892
So you're still not thinking about things? I don't have gobble as town. I'm literally ok with him being lynched. He's just not the best lynch. Like how do you not get the sarcasm there?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 17:52 GMT
#896
On February 10 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's lynch Keirathi you can kill me if he flips town 100%.

I don't have you as mafia, why the fuck would I want to lynch you. I'm trying to tell you that you're probably wrong and not listening.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:25 GMT
#922
Or we can actually lynch mafia in OWS. But everyone ignores my reasons or calls them shit so, whatever. When you guys ML because you didn't listen to me blame yourselves.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 18:30 GMT
#928
On February 09 2015 16:55 geript wrote:
The best reasons for gobble being mafia are the reasons I gave. He should've had an idea of where to go/look but he didn't. Neither did he find any. It's not a bad lynch.

OWS is still a much, much better lynch. Tl;dr edition--
1. Has no reasons for his vote
2. Votes for a guy while trying to lynch someone else
3. Reasons for wanting to vote someone else are the worst made up shit ever
4. Is the most useless poster ever
5. Magical "townread" (which isn't really a townread) on Keir because the reasons for pushing him were bad/lame

Like seriously people just lynch that fuck and be done with it.

geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:32 GMT
#930
On February 10 2015 03:27 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing Geript, Ows does those things as town. His mafia game is different, still lazy but different. What you describe on him is really null.

Gobble is really scummy but you are ignoring the cases and calling them bad etc., so *shrug*.

I'm not ignoring the case on gobble. I've said I think a few times at this point that gobble is a decent lynch. While I don't think much about your case on him (other than the point you stole from me), I'm not ignoring the case on him.

Rayn's latest case on Keir isn't bad. It's far better than the first. That said, I think he's glossing over many things that Keir has done and many ways to get a read on him otherwise.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:34 GMT
#933
I think I know what it is that really bugs me about LS. He's not as hyper and ready to find scum as he usually is. Like I just haven't seen him as eager beaver this game.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:42 GMT
#939
On February 10 2015 03:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) I gave reasons for my vote.
2) I wanted to lynch both of you at the time. This should be a non-issue.
3) Several people have stated the exact same issue with you as me.
4) Sure buddy.
5) I explained this multiple times.

1. Right you said he was forgettable or some shit. There's literally no clear reason why you chose to lurker lynch him over LM or Gobble or half the fucking game. It's essentially, vote lurker, gtfo.
2. Right, because voting for someone who's forgettable while trying to make points on someone you think is scum. That's what normal town do. I'll vote for this random guy who I don't remember instead of this guy who I actually think is mafia.
3. If by follow up, then that was 1 of 3-4 issues you had in your post. It's also complete bullshit. Just because other people have the same read as you doesn't make it any less bullshit.
4. Yes. Please claim mafia more.
5. You mean you explained how you supposedly magically read people as town when you see a bad case on them. Oh right, and I also explained to you how god fucking retarded such a read is. You continue to use it. Town don't intentionally use bad heuristics. I will even go out on a limb and say that your heuristic of "a bad case on someone makes the cased person town" the absolute fucking dumbest heuristic I've ever seen used here. And I've seen some bad ones in my day. Like if you think your "explanation" of believing "bad case = casee was town" makes you look anything but mafia, then you're the worst fucking player I've ever played with.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:48 GMT
#946
On February 10 2015 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 03:30 geript wrote:

OWS is still a much, much better lynch. Tl;dr edition--
1. Has no reasons for his vote
2. Votes for a guy while trying to lynch someone else
3. Reasons for wanting to vote someone else are the worst made up shit ever
4. Is the most useless poster ever
5. Magical "townread" (which isn't really a townread) on Keir because the reasons for pushing him were bad/lame



First of all your #1 cannot be true because your #3 argues otherwise.
I don't think #2 is true but in case i have missed something feel free to show me what have i missed.
#3 doesn't necessarily make anyone mafia
#4 doesn't necessarily make anyone mafia
#5 he has never had a town read on Keirathi afaik, his reasons for not voting for Keirathi i can understand from town perspective. Like this is the only thing i got from your case and you TOTALLY overplayed how "scummy" this is. Because it isn't.


On February 09 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote lian

Would also be willing to wagon geript for his list post. He has 4 people in his questionable pile in yet questions none of them and seems to be perfectly fine with the players giving reads he thinks are unacceptable. There's no way for him to think that all 4 of those players are mafia, in yet he doesn't bother to consult any of them or sort any of it out despite already having two people in his scumlist.

1. No reasons for voting for lian. Like his "reason" for voting lian is apparently this:
On February 09 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have completely forgotten that lian was in this game.

So he's voting for the guy that he forgot was in the game over someone he has a scumread on...
2. He's fucking voting Lian while wanting to lynch me. He has magically the worst god awful reasons for voting me AND THEN IS STILL VOTING FOR THE GUY WHO HE FUCKING FORGOT WAS IN THE GODDAMN GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. The reasons are fucking trash tier. Just like his reads. Sure it doesn't make him mafia, but when combined with the other points it sure fucking does.
4. Yes, yes,
5. Later on he fucking explains that. He explains how a bad case on someone make him think they're town and therefore doesn't want to lynch them. Read his fucking goddamn fucking filter rayn. like he's fucking goddamn fucking fuckity fuck mafia. Like I'm literally getting cancer just fucking reading his posts that's how mafia he is.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:56 GMT
#954
You see the townread on Keir both exists and doesn't exist at the same time. It's like Schrodinger's cat.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:06 GMT
#962
I'm literally not voting for anyone else until OWScum is dead.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:09 GMT
#966
Does it bother me that Onegu and SL are voting for obvious mafia? Nope not in the slightest.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:11 GMT
#970
Like that post should bother you more than anyone else because it's a fucking point Keir brought up. But you keep one durdlefesting on him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:14 GMT
#974
On February 10 2015 04:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu wants both me and GD dead despite me voting GD.

And you think that's totally okay.

Coolio.

Yes, please strawman my argument down to "OWS wants 2 people dead which makes him mafia." That's clearly the point I was making. Like that's totally not a complete fucking misrepresentation of every fucking point I've made.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:16 GMT
#980
On February 10 2015 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I jsut said if i am wrong on someone then SL might be mafia. Just for that fucking terrible vote and Keirathi's non-reaction to it. Also that would make Gobble town because SL is voting for him which makes you .. again, look way more worse.

I'm voting and pushing OWS. I've said gobble isn't a bad lynch. But you'll notice I'm not pushing gobble because he still can be town. Which is unlike OWS who cannot be town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#986
On February 10 2015 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 04:14 geript wrote:
On February 10 2015 04:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu wants both me and GD dead despite me voting GD.

And you think that's totally okay.

Coolio.

Yes, please strawman my argument down to "OWS wants 2 people dead which makes him mafia." That's clearly the point I was making. Like that's totally not a complete fucking misrepresentation of every fucking point I've made.


I can just call it stupid like everyone else is doing.

That seems to be working pretty well for me and I'm going to keep doing that.

This is literally all he's fucking doing. OWS is here and not doing anything other than call the push on him stupid and completely misrepresenting the case and points on him and you fuckwits are calling him town. Like seriously people how the fuck do you not want to lynch this guy.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:28 GMT
#998
On February 10 2015 04:26 sicklucker wrote:
I hope we have a veg.

I agree. Because otherwise you idiots won't kill OWScum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:41 GMT
#1021
Slam. OWS. LS. Calling it now.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 19:45 GMT
#1027
Rayn. Keir is town. It should be obvious to you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 20:00 GMT
#1077
We're not lynching Keir. You baddies can continue being bad by not lynching OWS.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 20:03 GMT
#1084
Told you!!!! OWS switched to vote with his scumread ME! at end of day after switching to Keir. Like WTF people?????? Like how many fucking times do I have to fucking tell you to fucking lynching fucking scum in OWS??? LIke WTF people.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 20:04 GMT
#1087
Day 2 we lynch OWS. D3 we lynch Rayn for being a baddie.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 20:05 GMT
#1091
Vig can just shoot OWS and be done with it. Like there's literally no way he votes with me on Gobble if he's town and thinks I'm scum. Like it's literally the most scummy action in the game after his own fucking scummy shit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 20:07 GMT
#1093
On February 10 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 05:03 geript wrote:
Told you!!!! OWS switched to vote with his scumread ME! at end of day after switching to Keir. Like WTF people?????? Like how many fucking times do I have to fucking tell you to fucking lynching fucking scum in OWS??? LIke WTF people.


You were voting with me before I switched.

Yah, I was voting with you because I was saving Keir. Because Keir is obviously fucking town. You were clearly ambivalent between the two.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 20:08 GMT
#1096
Like if anyone fucking opposes my OWS lynch on D2 then I will fucking lynch that person instead. You fuckers are being fucking stupid and you need to realize that I'm a fucking god at this game and OWS is the fucking scummiest scum fuck that's ever fucking scummed.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 20:12 GMT
#1103
On February 10 2015 05:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So?

So I have a clear reason to vote for Gobble. Keir was obviously town. Gobble was not obviously town. Keir is a good player. There's literally not reason to lynch a good townie instead of a question mark.

OWS was clearly ambivalent as to which wagon to be on.
OWS clearly saw (AND COMMENTED!!!!) that I voted for Gobble.
OWS switched his vote to Keir and then back to Gobble.
OWS is clearly scumreading me.

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND AS TOWN SWITCHES TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON WHO THEIR SCUMREAD IS VOTING FOR IN THE LAST FUCKING SECONDS BEFORE A FUCKING LYNCH!!!!

LIKE HOW DID YOU FUCKERS NOT FUCKING REALIZE THAT MY CASE ON OWS WAS THE FUCKING ROCK SOLIDEST AIR TIGHTEST FUCKING LYNCH AROUND.

Instead you baddies lynched Keir instead of fucking listening to me and lynching OWS after I already fucking told you Keir was town. I even fucking explained my fucking read on him. Nobody is even fucking listening to what i'm fucking writing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 20:14 GMT
#1107
On February 10 2015 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 05:12 geript wrote:
On February 10 2015 05:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So?

So I have a clear reason to vote for Gobble. Keir was obviously town. Gobble was not obviously town. Keir is a good player. There's literally not reason to lynch a good townie instead of a question mark.

OWS was clearly ambivalent as to which wagon to be on.
OWS clearly saw (AND COMMENTED!!!!) that I voted for Gobble.
OWS switched his vote to Keir and then back to Gobble.
OWS is clearly scumreading me.

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND AS TOWN SWITCHES TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON WHO THEIR SCUMREAD IS VOTING FOR IN THE LAST FUCKING SECONDS BEFORE A FUCKING LYNCH!!!!

LIKE HOW DID YOU FUCKERS NOT FUCKING REALIZE THAT MY CASE ON OWS WAS THE FUCKING ROCK SOLIDEST AIR TIGHTEST FUCKING LYNCH AROUND.

Instead you baddies lynched Keir instead of fucking listening to me and lynching OWS after I already fucking told you Keir was town. I even fucking explained my fucking read on him. Nobody is even fucking listening to what i'm fucking writing.

yes, this is a case.

The first one was a fucking case too. It was fucking rock solid too.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 09 2015 20:14 GMT
#1109
On February 10 2015 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but geript you use too many fuck's in your posts they are hard to read.

lololol. This post made me laugh so hard
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 20:15 GMT
#1110
You also may be right on SL Rayn.
geript
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February 09 2015 20:17 GMT
#1116
On February 10 2015 05:15 sicklucker wrote:
Yes because people who disagree with you are mafia because your always right

It has nothing to do with disagreeing with me. Like Rayn, Keir and Damdred have all disagreed with me at points in this game. I'm clearly not calling them mafia for it.

Like asking OWS if he switched because you asked him to is one of the weirdest fucking questions I've ever seen.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 20:19 GMT
#1120
PRAISE JEEEBUS!!! I'M MAGICALLY A TOWNREAD NOW!!!! THE HEAVENS HAVE OPENED AND MANA IS FALLING LIKE RAIN!!!!
geript
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February 09 2015 20:22 GMT
#1128
On February 10 2015 05:20 liancourt wrote:
how does this make obi mafia? gobs tomorrow

It's OWS or Lian tomorrow. No alternatives allowed.
geript
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February 09 2015 20:26 GMT
#1132
If you're mafia and both wagons are town, you don't care which one you end on. It's literally irrelevant. You'd be ambivalent as to which wagon you were on.
Let's check to see if you were ambivalent: DONE!
geript
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February 09 2015 20:30 GMT
#1134
Like the lynches for D2 and D3 are already set. We lynch OWS. Then we lynch Slam.
geript
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February 09 2015 20:30 GMT
#1136
On February 10 2015 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript are you sure Slam is not town? Like i mean do you strongly think he is not town?

Yah, his comeback late in the day makes me even more sure. I'll reread him again, but I'm pretty sure he's mafia at this point.
geript
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February 09 2015 20:33 GMT
#1140
Like I need to read him in void but I'm pretty sure he's the D3 lynch.
geript
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February 09 2015 20:37 GMT
#1148
On February 10 2015 05:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Your whole theory revolves around me making the worst move possible when I have nothing to lose.

How does that make sense?

Nope. Doesn't in any way. You making a move that makes no sense if you're town and doesn't matter whatsoever if you're mafia is alignment indictive. Would you like to continue to misrepresent my arguments and try and straw man them?
geript
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February 09 2015 20:59 GMT
#1164
On February 10 2015 05:41 liancourt wrote:
when obi does things that are unexplainable and down right r******** you have to read him town for that.

Wrong
geript
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February 09 2015 21:00 GMT
#1166
On February 10 2015 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Geript voting was irrelevant to me because I wasn't even scumreading him anymore.

More magically appearing and disappearing reads. I love Magic!!!
geript
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February 09 2015 21:20 GMT
#1173
I'm also town for my read on Keir. Which btw, I would never give if I were mafia. I'd have to find a way shittier reason to call him town so I could lynch him later.
geript
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February 09 2015 21:21 GMT
#1176
On February 10 2015 06:06 liancourt wrote:
there's being lazy and not giving a fuck

then there's obi.

then there's obi trying to be lazy and trying to not give a fuck as scum? anyone actually know how he plays as scum?

If his town game is being lazy and not giving a fuck, then you should still want to lynch him. Because those 2 traits are things that you don't want especially after a mislynch. Like WTF?
geript
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February 09 2015 21:24 GMT
#1180
On February 10 2015 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 06:20 geript wrote:
I'm also town for my read on Keir. Which btw, I would never give if I were mafia. I'd have to find a way shittier reason to call him town so I could lynch him later.

no that one you would do, there was literally no reason to read Keirathi as town unless some tone/other shit reasons.

No you're wrong. That's a read that I can't undo. I don't like doing that at all as mafia because I'd be locking in him as a N1 kill from the start.

Like look at how he trolled you when you were doing like 21, 22. Like that's really, really towny. Which btw, is a pretty stark contrast between how Obi approaches me.

Near EoD Obi was all like, "Well yah, but I'm just going to keep on lying and calling you stupid because it's working." He's not trolling me, he's being honest.
geript
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February 09 2015 21:28 GMT
#1183
On February 10 2015 06:25 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 06:21 geript wrote:
On February 10 2015 06:06 liancourt wrote:
there's being lazy and not giving a fuck

then there's obi.

then there's obi trying to be lazy and trying to not give a fuck as scum? anyone actually know how he plays as scum?

If his town game is being lazy and not giving a fuck, then you should still want to lynch him. Because those 2 traits are things that you don't want especially after a mislynch. Like WTF?


thing is we have 4 5 ppl with that trait in this game. They can't all be mafia

And... I have good reasons for finding this lazy useless one mafia. The other ones are crap shoots. Do you expect me to push a crapshoot over obvious mafia? Like that would literally make me OWS. That's exactly what he did.
geript
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February 09 2015 21:28 GMT
#1185
On February 10 2015 06:27 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 06:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not even that lazy...


do u want that whip of motivation now?

I've been on his ass all game. He still hasn't done anything.
geript
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February 09 2015 21:32 GMT
#1187
On February 10 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 06:24 geript wrote:
On February 10 2015 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 10 2015 06:20 geript wrote:
I'm also town for my read on Keir. Which btw, I would never give if I were mafia. I'd have to find a way shittier reason to call him town so I could lynch him later.

no that one you would do, there was literally no reason to read Keirathi as town unless some tone/other shit reasons.

No you're wrong. That's a read that I can't undo. I don't like doing that at all as mafia because I'd be locking in him as a N1 kill from the start.

Like look at how he trolled you when you were doing like 21, 22. Like that's really, really towny. Which btw, is a pretty stark contrast between how Obi approaches me.

Near EoD Obi was all like, "Well yah, but I'm just going to keep on lying and calling you stupid because it's working." He's not trolling me, he's being honest.

I'll be honest with you i will always lynch the shit out of ppl who act like shit and like Waveofshadow.
true story. not gonna get modkilled any more, just lynch the shit out of them...

He was pretty obviously town Rayn. Sure he might have pissed you off, but look at how he approached being lynched. Especially early on too. It's not hard to see he was town. He's trying to act pre-flipped. It was a really bad lynch.

Also, OWS voted for Keir who he had a fucking townread on. So his magical townread on Keit disappeared again. Magic is wonderful.
geript
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February 09 2015 21:52 GMT
#1212
There is only one wagon tomorrow. It is Obi. If anyone but Obi dies tomorrow I will flip my fucking lid.

Everyone is apologizing for Obi being useless. My best points and the crux of my points has nothing to do with Obi being bad or Obi being useless. Like just fucking read what I fucking post.

He voted for Lian who he had forgotten was in the game while explaining a scumread on me. He's voting for someone who he has no read on over a person who he has a read on. WTF?
His reads are magical and appear and disappear at his pleasure. See his scumread on me and his townread on Keir.
His votes make zero sense from a town PoV.
Despite being pushed all day long he's literally contributed nothing and was clearly ambivalent towards the lynch despite multiple people saying that as town he gets much townies when whipped into action.
His response to being pushed all day was essentially, "Nyah Nyah you're not going to lynch me and I'll keep on calling your arguments stupid and people will agree with me" in an honest non-trolly way which is far different from how town tends to act.
He constantly misrepresented arguments against himself to look less bad.
geript
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February 09 2015 22:39 GMT
#1242
On February 10 2015 06:52 geript wrote:
There is only one wagon tomorrow. It is Obi. If anyone but Obi dies tomorrow I will flip my fucking lid.

Everyone is apologizing for Obi being useless. My best points and the crux of my points has nothing to do with Obi being bad or Obi being useless. Like just fucking read what I fucking post.

He voted for Lian who he had forgotten was in the game while explaining a scumread on me. He's voting for someone who he has no read on over a person who he has a read on. WTF?
His reads are magical and appear and disappear at his pleasure. See his scumread on me and his townread on Keir.
His votes make zero sense from a town PoV.
Despite being pushed all day long he's literally contributed nothing and was clearly ambivalent towards the lynch despite multiple people saying that as town he gets much townies when whipped into action.
His response to being pushed all day was essentially, "Nyah Nyah you're not going to lynch me and I'll keep on calling your arguments stupid and people will agree with me" in an honest non-trolly way which is far different from how town tends to act.
He constantly misrepresented arguments against himself to look less bad.

Nobody who has called Obi town has addressed these points. You have to prove that he does these specific things as town. You can't just hand waive it and say, "Obi's town because he's a terrible player." Like no one has even brought up key points to read him as town.
Damdred wanted to point out that Obi is more methodical as scum. Yet, Obi hasn't given a read that he can't reverse on a moments notice for any reason. Like that's being really really careful to do that. Town doesn't even try.
geript
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February 09 2015 22:44 GMT
#1247
On February 10 2015 07:34 liancourt wrote:
i have voted with my scum read in the past. Or rather i voted first then they followed and i didnt change my votes.

Voting with ur scum read doesn't necessarily mean they are mafia. If that's the prime reason you are scumreading obi then it's a bad reason. I'm all for putting pressure on obi, but calling him scum for voting with his scum read...nope. And like damdred said during shenanigans town don't do logical things nor does obi do logical things normally.

We're not talking about voting with a scumread in normal circumstances. Pretend you're town. One of you scumreads makes a vote that is obviously intended to protect someone. Do you switch to vote with that guy? Do you vote the other guy then switch back essentially confirming other guy gets lynched? Like its not just that. OWS voted for his fucking townread because of supposed pressure. That pressure was nothing that didn't exist earlier when Rayn was pushing Keir. so why switch if he's town?
geript
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February 09 2015 22:50 GMT
#1250
Here's scum motivation Damdred. Gobble is his mafia partner, he wanted to save him then thought he'd be lynched because of my vote and switched back. OR perhaps gobble is town and he figured he'd catch less flak if gobble is lynched instead of Keir. Or maybe he wanted to make sure Keir got lynch. Maybe he did it because he's methodical and people would think he'd never do that as mafia. Maybe he did it because he's a bad player as both alignments.

Do you need more possible explanations?

OWS being mafia has no affect on Gobble being mafia. They can independently be mafia.
geript
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February 09 2015 23:06 GMT
#1254
Like Damdred, I want to be clear. Who knows what gobble is. He could flip about anything. But OWS is a much better lynch because he literally cannot flip town.
geript
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February 10 2015 00:50 GMT
#1275
On February 10 2015 09:20 Damdred wrote:
Like that YouTube post just feels so blah and gloating to me

Oh. You mean like Obi did?
geript
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February 10 2015 01:08 GMT
#1277
On February 10 2015 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 04:14 geript wrote:
On February 10 2015 04:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu wants both me and GD dead despite me voting GD.

And you think that's totally okay.

Coolio.

Yes, please strawman my argument down to "OWS wants 2 people dead which makes him mafia." That's clearly the point I was making. Like that's totally not a complete fucking misrepresentation of every fucking point I've made.


I can just call it stupid like everyone else is doing.

That seems to be working pretty well for me and I'm going to keep doing that.

You're right no pics, just regular voting.
Don't you find it the least bit odd that Obi's done nothing to try to actually convince me or anyone he's town?
geript
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February 10 2015 05:38 GMT
#1310
On February 10 2015 12:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
So OWS what are your reads atm and can you explain to me why your reads are the way there are please?


Tomorrow, mayhaps.

So who doesn't want to lynch this guy again?
geript
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February 10 2015 07:56 GMT
#1326
On February 10 2015 15:06 Onegu wrote:
@Geript can you give me the tldr on how to read slam?

Tldr Magic and feels. There's not quite a logical way to read him anymore. In part it's "is he having fun" but that's only a piece. He's moved on from that somewhat.
geript
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February 10 2015 19:22 GMT
#1361
Busy with job interview, but have a bit of a late lunch break. Wish me luck!!!! OWS post talking about hydraing with me had me thinking I might be wrong on him. Still probly scum, but needs to be thought about.
geript
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February 10 2015 21:05 GMT
#1375
I'm really really pissed at liancourt. You should never post after death. Like you should never, ever post after death. If it's gg wp or gl town or gl scum or something similar. But like that's really fucking terrible to post after death which could in any way affect the game.

I didn't see much of note in Lian's filter fwiw. It does make me think that perhaps all 3 wagons on D1 were town; at most 1 of them is mafia.
geript
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February 10 2015 21:32 GMT
#1377
Why kill lian? We had 3 major pushes yesterday Gobble, Obi and Keir. Mafia doesn't kill any of the people pushing wagons; you can argue that mafia doesn't have to kill Rayn since he's already slightly discredited already, but they kill a random. Like, everyone's townreading Onegu for the most part and he doesn't even die and he'd be a natural medic dodge. It's really odd.
geript
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February 10 2015 21:38 GMT
#1378
Like it's a lot like the GB kill last game. It's a big warning sign.
geript
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February 10 2015 22:10 GMT
#1383
Rayn could be mafia, but I agree Damdred, I don't really see that either.
geript
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February 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#1384
I'm going to take a look at SL, LS, Slam and FF when I get back from making supper.
geript
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February 11 2015 05:39 GMT
#1481
On February 11 2015 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On February 11 2015 14:08 Onegu wrote:
Oh btw speaking of Geript

@geript: good luck

Wait what happneed


Geript got a job offer.

Slam: if you had a gun to your head and you had to lynch anyone but me, who would it be and why?

Interview, not a job offer. And I didn't get the job. IDK, not really feeling it right now.
geript
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February 11 2015 20:42 GMT
#1606
I actually think Slam is the right lynch for today. In reading his filter, he's missing the random but good points I usually see from him as town. He's also not waiting to see where votes land as much and moreso is just sheeping almost blindly. He's really not doing his own thing which is what he tends to do as town then he'll make up his mind and put a vote somewhere that feels right to him.

LM probably isn't a bad lynch either. GD. IDK. Not really feeling motivated.
#slam
geript
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February 11 2015 20:44 GMT
#1609
Actually LM might be town
geript
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February 11 2015 20:47 GMT
#1610
On February 12 2015 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
since when do you give up on your tunnel D1 geript?

He could still be mafia. He had a post towards the end of the night that really reminded me of how I felt towards like Hapa or one of the other vets in another game. I thought the person was town and thought the person was mafia and couldn't really sort out my feelings and thoughts about the guy. Maybe it was Prome? You know where when someone tunnel pushes you and it becomes really hard to get an honest read on them because you're biased. I just don't see that often from mafia. I think my points are good against him and maybe I'm caving to other people's thoughts instead of pushing my own which can tend to be a fault I have when nobody agrees with me, but it makes me reticent about lynching him. Especially with the odd NK.
geript
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February 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#1619
On February 12 2015 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why does the NK prove anything otherwise?
like if mafia kills me or you how does OWS survive D2 as mafia?

Normal kills generally denote someone's on the right track, but it doesn't denote who. Abnormal kills tend to denote that no on is on the right track. That's just the percentages.
geript
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February 11 2015 21:08 GMT
#1627
I'm not saying that it can't be OWS Rayn. My point is that when you look at a long track run of unusual kills, a large majority of the time it's because lots of people are off track. It actually got me thinking that you could be mafia. But I'm not sure how much I really see that.
geript
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February 11 2015 21:13 GMT
#1632
On February 12 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 06:08 geript wrote:
I'm not saying that it can't be OWS Rayn. My point is that when you look at a long track run of unusual kills, a large majority of the time it's because lots of people are off track. It actually got me thinking that you could be mafia. But I'm not sure how much I really see that.

I am literally 0% mafia.

Yah, and you see me pushing you as mafia here right? Seriously, look at void. Slam's game there is different from his previous play as town but still has the general trend:
1. Occasional good points
2. Plays to have fun
3. Does his own thing for a while before heading a direction

You can see bits of 2 this game, but 1&3 are both missing.
geript
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February 11 2015 21:24 GMT
#1646
On February 12 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am arguinjg you dropped your 100% scumread after N1 for no fucking reason. You had "one good post". rofl. It wasn't even alignment indicative.

I really don't know what you expect me to say. I think I could be wrong on OWS and he might be town. Anyone who wants to keep pushing him is fine. I just found a post he made to be pretty towny. So why keep pushing him?
geript
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February 11 2015 21:26 GMT
#1649
On February 12 2015 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have never argued slam is town after N1 start. what ?
geript do you think gobble is mafia?

Idk. Haven't really looked at much since yesterday.
geript
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February 11 2015 21:27 GMT
#1651
Slam.
geript
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February 11 2015 21:28 GMT
#1653
Maybe SL or LS. Haven't really filtered past slam/LM
geript
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February 11 2015 21:57 GMT
#1679
I'm semi-around
geript
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February 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#1684
Rayn perhaps you could just vote for slam since you think he's mafia and I think he's mafia and we both think he's mafia.
geript
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February 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#1686
On February 12 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Good god rayn I'm trying to get sexy time not running from you.

I'd probably lynch lm or SL I guess

I just had sexy time. Too bad I owe my left hand a dinner date now
geript
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February 11 2015 22:09 GMT
#1688
ok why SL?
geript
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February 12 2015 02:16 GMT
#1851
I don't have much clue as to what rayn's doing but eh. baaaaaah
geript
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February 12 2015 02:17 GMT
#1853
Actually no, I think I'd rather just lynch Slam.
geript
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February 12 2015 02:48 GMT
#1860
On February 12 2015 11:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred shouldn't you be worrying about getting that sweet wife love?

Wtf you talking about? Don't you know that Damdred's out with his boyfriend tonight? Don't tell his wife!!!!
geript
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February 12 2015 05:54 GMT
#1958
Yah, we can just lynch SL. That was the weirdest set of fake claims ever.
geript
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February 12 2015 05:54 GMT
#1959
FF is not confirmed town for not taking an action. Silly Onegu go back to school.
geript
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February 12 2015 05:58 GMT
#1962
On February 12 2015 14:54 geript wrote:
FF is not confirmed town for not taking an action. Silly Onegu go back to school.

Didn't say he wasn't confirmed town. The RB makes him 95% likely to be town. SL will do crazy shit as mafia though. He'd happily try to double confirm a partner.
geript
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February 12 2015 05:59 GMT
#1963
On February 12 2015 14:55 Onegu wrote:
I R AWESOME!!!

You'd be more awesome if you hadn't cc'd. Like he was totally going to get lynched because his claim was fucking terrible.
geript
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February 12 2015 18:52 GMT
#2013
I remember thinking that LM looked like his town game from the last BH game. That's why I thought he was town on D1. I'll look at him later Damdred.
geript
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February 13 2015 05:24 GMT
#2069
I can see the bus going either way between LM and Slam. IDK SL but maybe both. I'll look in the morning.
geript
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February 13 2015 05:36 GMT
#2078
On February 13 2015 14:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Is sicklucker prone to hardcore bussing? I ask this because you seem to be the meta expert, winky-face man.

I could check a bunch of games, but off the top of my head I don't know. Someone said he was. But I don't think either are god awful pressure targets so I really don't care if he was bussing or not.
geript
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February 13 2015 15:57 GMT
#2091
On February 13 2015 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wow geript could be scum. Like really scum.

Talk to me dirty baby.
geript
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February 13 2015 16:02 GMT
#2093
@LS. That is not how you meta.
geript
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February 13 2015 17:56 GMT
#2102
@Rayn. Please call me mafia more. I'll love you forever for it <3
geript
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February 13 2015 17:56 GMT
#2103
Just sayin because LM isn't dying tonight
geript
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February 13 2015 17:58 GMT
#2104
By LM I mean Onegu
geript
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February 13 2015 18:10 GMT
#2109
On February 14 2015 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2015 14:54 geript wrote:
Yah, we can just lynch SL. That was the weirdest set of fake claims ever.

Like i really dislike this post.
Really really much..
And geript hasn't been trying to solve the game since forever.
And that weird drop on ows makes zero sense. Absoluly zero sense. Like the "night kill analysis" he provided is nonsense. And geript DOES NOT drop out of his tunnels as town, not without a good reason. Ever!

I strongly believe he is scum for those reasons.

Let's be honest Rayn. How many times have I given 0 fucks as mafia? How many times have I given 0 fucks as town?
How many times have I not tried to hard carry as mafia? Plz bish.
geript
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February 13 2015 18:10 GMT
#2110
On February 14 2015 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a bit puzzled... what aee you even saying?

1 +1 = 4
geript
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February 13 2015 18:10 GMT
#2111
Math too hard
geript
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February 13 2015 18:20 GMT
#2113
Yup. Good thing I'm a nurse and have to maths out dosages.
geript
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February 13 2015 18:29 GMT
#2115
On February 14 2015 03:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 03:20 geript wrote:
Yup. Good thing I'm a nurse and have to maths out dosages.



Oh cool, respect for you went up 1000 fold

Too bad respect is still 0
geript
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February 13 2015 18:35 GMT
#2116
Looking at OWS recent games, I'm really not sure on him. There are a few things that point both directions. Still think Slam is a better lynch but I wish I could get a better read on OWS.

LM has posted more than I remember him usually doing as town. That's a bit interesting. He also doesn't have any townreads that I think are terrible but might actually be right.
geript
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February 13 2015 18:38 GMT
#2117
I do find it interesting though that it took a while for LS to be town puppy ish. Maybe people are making a bad townread here.
geript
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February 13 2015 19:47 GMT
#2121
On February 14 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should have an easy time to solve this game if you are town geript.....
Right now tou are arguing the dude who wnated to plynch flipped mafia is most likely scum, despite you being 100% sure another guy was mafia on d1.

I ampretty sure you should start making sense in case you are town, and quit the dumb "antagonize rayn" stuff you are doing atm..

Or you can start thinking about me instead of just doing stupid shit. Like you're giving Slam a free townread for a really god awful reason. He's far more likely to be mafia than LM. And if you want to come at me, then you're being fucking retarded or you're mafia. It's not like this game is that terribly different than Russia from you.
geript
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February 13 2015 19:47 GMT
#2122
On February 14 2015 04:14 Onegu wrote:
I have about the same reads as Rayn, but Rayn town hero. I'd also flip slam and Geript, really find it hard to believe Geript would allow a LIAN shot as he was a very easy mislynch target.

Geript would never allow a shot on an easy ML. I'd ML them or shoot them if they claimed.
geript
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February 13 2015 20:24 GMT
#2137
On February 14 2015 05:14 Damdred wrote:
Hrm, kill makes sense I thought geript would of died though.

Anyway, I guess lm is the lynch atm. Gobble and ff confirmed town, onef looks good to.

Me too.
geript
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February 13 2015 20:25 GMT
#2141
Clearly I was a mason with Rayn. Just like gobble. >.>
geript
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February 14 2015 06:34 GMT
#2226
Man today's turning out really weird.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:35 GMT
#2227
@Onegu. Was there anything else interesting in the Rayn QT?
geript
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February 14 2015 06:37 GMT
#2228
So no roleblocks last night. That's kinda odd.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:37 GMT
#2229
I guess scum are too dumb to claim it.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:38 GMT
#2232
I really wish Onegu wasn't the other mason. The game would be much easier. Now I have to read more.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:39 GMT
#2233
Why would they rb you?
geript
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February 14 2015 06:44 GMT
#2236
Idiots.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:49 GMT
#2238
@Damdred you remember the semi-odd but interesting townread LM had on the D3 lynch. Breshke I think it was. He didn't want to lynch him because he was going ham towards like you and DP or something and LM townread him for that. I'm just not finding any interesting reads there. He's probably a better lynch I think.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:50 GMT
#2239
Lol. Your fake claim was so bad.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:50 GMT
#2240
But eh. Got the job done.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:55 GMT
#2242
Looking back at Student, LM also doesn't have any associative read this game. By that I mean he seems to polarize players by alignment and read them from that. IE read players by how they're reading other players. Seems like a different approach. Surprised I didn't pick up on that earlier.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:56 GMT
#2243
On February 14 2015 15:54 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:50 geript wrote:
But eh. Got the job done.



Made him baby seal, clear FF, and made me absorb the RB. You were saying?

I'm actually not sure FF was RB'd. Call me crazy but with SL outing it's really good play to confirm a scum partner.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:58 GMT
#2244
He's not like a lynch anytime soon by any account but if he's alive in a 3person mylo I'd autlynch him.
geript
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February 14 2015 06:58 GMT
#2245
Gonna watch Chinese league for a bit.
geript
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February 14 2015 07:54 GMT
#2247
Meh. Maybe me reading DP wrong last game has me crazy. But I really think withholding/burying a N1 rb is really under rated sneaky play. Plus, like why does SL claim the rb on you? Like that's insanely awful play as mafia if you're town.
geript
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February 14 2015 08:05 GMT
#2248
It's really interesting how SL approaches Slam, LS and LM. Kinda odd how Alan seems to pop up later but significantly less so early on.
geript
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February 15 2015 03:49 GMT
#2424
I'm not sure vet, mason, gunsmith is balanced honestly. That feels very town favored especial ally if you thought NK of it as gunsmith, vet, innocent child x2. Like that's a really weird setup.
geript
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February 15 2015 04:30 GMT
#2433
Kinda caught up. But like a setup with essentially 4 self confirming roles feels really, really townsided.
geript
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February 15 2015 04:31 GMT
#2434
I actually think LM is the right lynch.
geript
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February 15 2015 04:35 GMT
#2435
Like 10 vs 3 where mafia can only mislynch 6 people where you need 3 mislynches minimum. Like that's insane. I don't see how mafia wins that realistically.
geript
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February 15 2015 05:43 GMT
#2445
On February 15 2015 13:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Geript how come you think sicklucker and I could have orchestrated the entirety of the first two days but don't even bat an eyelash at my equally easy claim?

I've considered you, it's just that there's more situational evidence to suggest that you're town. Whereas with him, not so much.
geript
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February 15 2015 06:05 GMT
#2447
If he's mafia, then it's really awful lynching into the "green claims." Like hitting mafia is really low percentage then. If he's town, then it's a situation that we literally have to face each and every day. IDK Damdy.

I wonder if there could be 4 mafia. That could explain the setup.
geript
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February 15 2015 06:07 GMT
#2448
Nope 3 confirmed mafia.
geript
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February 15 2015 06:10 GMT
#2449
I get the trepidation but I really can't imagine a mason get gunsmith setup.
geript
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February 15 2015 06:11 GMT
#2450
It's like tracker cop. It's just too easy to auto confirm people and leave little to no room for mafia to hide in.
geript
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February 15 2015 17:53 GMT
#2488
I'm around. Just woke up.
geript
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February 15 2015 17:54 GMT
#2489
Oh onegu you can touch me all you want.
geript
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February 15 2015 17:58 GMT
#2491
I'm going to vote for alas until I figure out where I want my vote to end for sure.
geript
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February 15 2015 18:00 GMT
#2493
Sssssh bby. I won't tell a soul.
geript
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February 15 2015 18:24 GMT
#2497
LM's filter is awful. And I ran across Seasons of a Witch randomly because of FF or GD where LM was mafia.
geript
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February 15 2015 18:36 GMT
#2502
And I have a big peepee and LM is mafia. End of story.


geript
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February 15 2015 18:40 GMT
#2505
Gunsmith is essentially Vigi that can't shoot on N1. Vet is Vet. Mason is essentially 2 Named VT. I can't think of a single BH game with 2 roles and 2 Named VT. Especially when the named VTs know each other is town.

Slam's filter isn't great either. He's had 1-2 ok points. But if we're not lynching LM so far Slam is my preference.
geript
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February 15 2015 18:42 GMT
#2508
On February 16 2015 03:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:36 geript wrote:
And I have a big peepee and LM is mafia. End of story.




That doesn't help me at all.

I thought I've already explained previously why I thought LM was scum for meta. It's not much new from Seasons. Basically short filter. Being whiny. Not being around basically at any point. Acquiescing to any non-mafia lynch.
geript
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February 15 2015 18:59 GMT
#2516
A point in LM's favor is that GD had ~4 pages in 1 day in Seasons I think.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:08 GMT
#2518
IDK, maybe I'm just really terrible this game and Rayn's been really right.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:14 GMT
#2522
Onegu you still want to lynch LM? Like I'm really struggling to find the best lynch between Slam, OWS, LS and Gobble. I kinda think LM is mafia but I also kinda think I'm just really wrong this whole game
geript
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February 15 2015 19:16 GMT
#2524
Like, I get the D1 vote argument. I don't wholly disagree with it, but I also think a reason to not think he's mafia is the NK. But writing ~4 pages per cycle roughly as town in 3+ games where he's only done 3 pages in almost 3 cycle. That's questionable in the least.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:21 GMT
#2526
What do we get out of his flip?
geript
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February 15 2015 19:33 GMT
#2536
I'm being really waffley.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:34 GMT
#2537
Onegu. Can you be more town hero.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:35 GMT
#2542
I'm kinda hoping GD is just really bad mafia though. It would clear up a decent amount via current wagon
geript
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February 15 2015 19:38 GMT
#2545
On February 16 2015 04:34 Damdred wrote:
IDK why you can't understand me, I don't want to lynch LS or owns. I believe we could have four blues maybe but don't want to lynch into a blue claim today.

Gobble is a good lynch slam IDK what he is 50/50 idk

When DO you want to lynch into the blue claim?
geript
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February 15 2015 19:39 GMT
#2547
I do have a hard time how figuring how if LM just really doesn't give a fuck or if he just doesn't really give a fuck who gets lynched.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:46 GMT
#2557
Onegu?
geript
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February 15 2015 19:52 GMT
#2566
Whatever fuck it. Let's do the old "When in doubt, lynch Slam" method.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:55 GMT
#2574
Maybe. Not really.
geript
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February 15 2015 19:59 GMT
#2586
I don't even know what I want anymore.
geript
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February 15 2015 20:03 GMT
#2597
On February 16 2015 05:03 Damdred wrote:
I actually don't think Scum has a conceivable way to win, LS looks bad from this sorta.

Just concede

Don't do this.
geript
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February 15 2015 20:05 GMT
#2600
I actually feel really bad now. I had him as mafia at at least a few different points this game and I didn't push the fuck out of him.
geript
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February 15 2015 20:06 GMT
#2601
Knowing that at most 1 on Slam was mafia actually helps a good bit. Makes Gobble look much worse.
geript
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February 15 2015 20:10 GMT
#2606
It's not an awful time to bus. If you're around, you're pretty much locked into to sheeping onto whoever the consensus target is. The thing is though that I'm kinda at the point that I think the scumteam has been bussing each other all game.
geript
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February 15 2015 20:38 GMT
#2610
I think bus potential is equal between LM and OWS, but I'm going to guess that it's probably more likely that everyone on Slam was town.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:05 GMT
#2613
I think I'd put LS before LM but idk. LM and OWS are about equal to me imo.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:12 GMT
#2615
Essentially there's 8 people left in the game. 7 after the NK. We're assured that mafia won't kill LM. I think Onegu is the obvious NK tonight. So we're left with
Geript
Fecalfeast
Damdred
ObiWanShinobi
LoneMeow
LightningStrike
Gobbledydook

I think Damdred's town. I'm pretty obviously town. So it's really important the everyone else who is town starts becoming obvious town. The next most important thing is that people keep up their activity and don't get modkilled, because any town modkill removes 1 lynch.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:12 GMT
#2616
6v1 is 3 lynches so 2 mislynches. Really only need 2 confirmed town for auto other than me and you.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:15 GMT
#2617
Seeing as how both Slam and SL voted each other once and both voted gobble, I actually kinda doubt they were bussing Gobble.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:16 GMT
#2618
That said, him throwing his vote away twice is a real surprise if he's town.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:23 GMT
#2620
D1 Final Vote Count

Keirathi (6): raynpelikoneet, liancourt, Alakaslam, LoneMeow, Onegu, FecalFeast
gobbledydook (6): Damdred, LightningStrike, Keirathi, sicklucker, geript, ObiWanShinobi
LightningStrike (1): gobbledydook


D3Vote count

Alakaslam (5): Damdred, Onegu, geript, LM, OWS
gobbledydook (2): LightningStrike, Fecalfeast
LightningStrike (1): Alakaslam
geript (1): gobbledydook

This is coloring in only the confirms. I'd be surprised if SL was late on the GB wagon and didn't try to save GD if he's mafia. The LS Slam vote I find interesting though as Slam didn't want to vote him D1 or D3. IDK.
geript
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February 15 2015 21:40 GMT
#2625
On February 16 2015 06:30 Onegu wrote:
SL was so fast to believe my tracker CC when I said I tracked FF, he just rolled over, if ff was scum seems like he would have contest my claim more, also makes this more believable because I was RB n2, making me believe they thought I was tracker

Except that it's the direct opposite imo. There's no reason to role over unless he's getting some sort of benefit.
geript
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February 16 2015 01:11 GMT
#2660
Even BH admitted it was right w/o the vet.
geript
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February 16 2015 07:12 GMT
#2687
As an actual answer to SL, he threw his vote away twice. He might not have been lynched first but I really doubt he's able to avoid 3 lynches. Especially when it starts looking like all town voted on Slam.
geript
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February 16 2015 15:06 GMT
#2691
On February 16 2015 16:37 Onegu wrote:
So how bad was my CC btw? I was really really drunk at the time.

Like I have to plan weeks in advance when I drink, so when I drink I go hard, then pay for it.

My initial thought when I saw it was that it was two mafia fake claiming to gain cred. Then I realized that this wasn't your mafia game. SL's claim was fucking terrible this game though. It was almost comical.
geript
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February 16 2015 17:36 GMT
#2697
On February 17 2015 00:15 marvellosity wrote:
why was slam lynched/mafia btw? i've not read the game and i'd like to know for future occasions

I made some good points on Slam in my filter fwiw. I'll quote them later. He ended up being a PoE lynch but eh.
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