On February 06 2015 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cmon ppl let's fill this up today!
Cmon ppl let's fill this up today!
Ok.
/in
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On February 06 2015 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cmon ppl let's fill this up today! Ok. /in | ||
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FWIW, I'd lynch LightningStrike. He's way subdued compared to the last time I played with him and shows none of the inquisitiveness I've come to expect from him. | ||
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On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote: And honestly I'm not sure if Kei should be the lynch today, or we should at least focus elsewhere so today just doesn't revolve around him and his later postings aren't really that bad. I agree that Keirathi looks better for the latter part of his filter. On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote: However, I think that there is a really good shot that gobble is scum. There are a few red flags that have cropped up in his small filter that have left me scratching my head in a scum sided way. Gobbles main interactions in the thread have been casting doubt on people overall. If you look at the first few rayn posts you can see the first him talking about how we shouldn't trust rayn shit wagon etc. This is all fine and food and it is ok to be paranoid and the posts lead you to believe that rayn is a scum read. If you look you will find gobble saying what is rayn even doing and he is hinting that he has a scum read on rayn. I say that he's been acting town and hobble reacts with how which most of the thread explaining why. Gobble continues casting doubts on trusting rayn However it turns out that gobble has a pretty decent sized town read on rayn. What was the point of all of the doubting and hinting that rayn is actually scum even in the postings slightly before casting doubt. I'm not really sure how this makes him scum instead of overly paranoid town. What does he gain as scum from going against someone very vocal and town read by most of the thread? On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote: His slam post is also interesting it is a lot of doubt and shadow just to come up with a null when pressed. With all of the information its quite surprising that its not a scum lean as it was reading to be but its only a gotta give him more time. Its really weird and kind of really wordy for a null. I don't actually agree that he spends that many words on it and I think being wary of giving a read on Alakaslam is quite understandable given the playstyle. | ||
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On February 09 2015 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2015 06:35 LoneMeow wrote: Meh, you guys are boring, I was hoping for more of a reaction for my appearance. FWIW, I'd lynch LightningStrike. He's way subdued compared to the last time I played with him and shows none of the inquisitiveness I've come to expect from him. Hey welcome to the thread I actually agree with you on LS, is this super alignment indicative? On him, yes, I'd say it's quite alignment indicative. Feel free to check out his filter in Student Mafia V, pay attention to the questions he asks - I think they're quite sharp despite what I otherwise think of his play style. | ||
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On February 08 2015 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ^ Above aimed at rayn. If I had to give a better scumread right now, I'd probably drop SL's name instead. I think he's voting people for rather mediocre reasons and his scumreads are a bit hazier than I would like. Where are you standing on sicklucker now? | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2015 07:01 LoneMeow wrote: Before I forget: On February 08 2015 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ^ Above aimed at rayn. If I had to give a better scumread right now, I'd probably drop SL's name instead. I think he's voting people for rather mediocre reasons and his scumreads are a bit hazier than I would like. Where are you standing on sicklucker now? Looks okay. Consider him a townlean. Not really for anything in particular. I just don't see anything wrong with his posting pattern recognition-wise and he seems okay. I forgot that his early early game is sometimes kind of weak because I attacked him for something similar beforehand. Merh. Okay. I find him kind of forgettable which is slightly worrying. Why exactly are you voting liancourt? | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:09 liancourt wrote: okazy LM is making me feel better, but i'm disappointed that he's brushing off keira and gob as town Keirathi I have a slight town lean on for reasons stated, but gobbledydook is pretty null really, I just disagree with the case on him. | ||
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It's worrying that you guys aren't screaming "scum!" at me since the "meta" is that scum gives me town reads and town gives me scum reads :D | ||
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On February 09 2015 09:11 LightningStrike wrote: 3. LoneMeow can you give me your reads and thoughts on Damdreds case on gobbledydook being scum please? I'll get back to the reads in a bit once I've thought about the recent posts a bit more. As for what I thought of Damdred's case, did you actually read the thread like you claimed? On February 09 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote: And honestly I'm not sure if Kei should be the lynch today, or we should at least focus elsewhere so today just doesn't revolve around him and his later postings aren't really that bad. I agree that Keirathi looks better for the latter part of his filter. Show nested quote + On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote: However, I think that there is a really good shot that gobble is scum. There are a few red flags that have cropped up in his small filter that have left me scratching my head in a scum sided way. Gobbles main interactions in the thread have been casting doubt on people overall. If you look at the first few rayn posts you can see the first him talking about how we shouldn't trust rayn shit wagon etc. This is all fine and food and it is ok to be paranoid and the posts lead you to believe that rayn is a scum read. If you look you will find gobble saying what is rayn even doing and he is hinting that he has a scum read on rayn. I say that he's been acting town and hobble reacts with how which most of the thread explaining why. Gobble continues casting doubts on trusting rayn However it turns out that gobble has a pretty decent sized town read on rayn. What was the point of all of the doubting and hinting that rayn is actually scum even in the postings slightly before casting doubt. I'm not really sure how this makes him scum instead of overly paranoid town. What does he gain as scum from going against someone very vocal and town read by most of the thread? Show nested quote + On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote: His slam post is also interesting it is a lot of doubt and shadow just to come up with a null when pressed. With all of the information its quite surprising that its not a scum lean as it was reading to be but its only a gotta give him more time. Its really weird and kind of really wordy for a null. I don't actually agree that he spends that many words on it and I think being wary of giving a read on Alakaslam is quite understandable given the playstyle. | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:33 Damdred wrote: Lm his posts aren't lining up from post to post. Inconsistencies can be a scum trait you glossed over a few fairly crucial points with how does this make someone scum. Throwing doubts on townies who are doing things is anti town at best and scum motivated at worst. Why would you go so far as to show doubt on rayn if you think the wagon is bad but you think he is town. It doesn't make sense honestly, town makes bad wagons just as often as scum oushes bad wagons. His point on me is all weird and feels really gake its there with no real examples and no context. So tell me what's so towny about gobble lm Meh. Maybe you're right, I'm probably giving him too much benefit of doubt since he's a newer player. Now that I read it again, I do really dislike the #1 conclusion in this post: On February 08 2015 14:41 gobbledydook wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2015 14:16 Damdred wrote: On February 08 2015 14:13 gobbledydook wrote: On February 08 2015 14:10 Damdred wrote: So there is no merit in the defensiveness that slam talked about and rayn talked about in the wagon at all? Still you seem to have a pretty strong town read on Rayn but most of your posts read like you are having rayn as scum for what you see as a bad wagon if u say 60-70% is a strong town read then ok. that 30%-40% is where the doubt comes in, seeing as everyone townreads rayn i thought it was good to raise the issue of 'is he sure to be town'? You dodged part of my question. We'll come back to it later though. Would scum!Rayn want to work with the thread and pressure people to give reads and try to keep the thread actually flowing pretty well instead of making people rage? I'm not so sure... anyway, you call the wagon bad. So are you town reading Kie? two parts to this answer: 1) the wagon is bad because its based on an irrelevant premise, not because someone deliberately misread or misrepresented keir so the fact that the wagon is bad shows no alignment of keir. 2) keir's posting, as i explained before, is indicative of someone under pressure due to a bullshit wagon. its different from someone acting defensive because of some bad posting they made. in those cases you could legitimately suggest that theyre defensive because they got caught. with this 'discussion-generating-bullshit' wagon theyre defensive because its bullshit i dont think it tells anything about their alignment. so keir is still a null. A "bad wagon" on Keirathi should say more about the players on the wagon than him. In fact that whole post seems like a really contrived way of saying "null". | ||
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On February 09 2015 10:54 gobbledydook wrote: lightning strike is pretty interesting, so what hes been doing is: 1) make a pretty general and boring list of one-sentence reads of everyone, that it doesnt seem like hes thought much about it. 2) makes excuses for not posting 3) sheeps damdred 4) asking simple questions about what X thinks of Y this betrays a lack of deep thinking, i think its likely he scum tryna get an easy mislynch without doing much How aware are you of his play style? Have you played with him before or read any of the games he's been in? | ||
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On February 09 2015 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @LM: Because he was okay with both wagons, mostly. I just found it odd for someone to think both wagons were good and not think anything was up with that, but I might be wrong. Why didn't you try to push this point earlier when you were voting him? | ||
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On February 10 2015 00:00 LightningStrike wrote: I never played with gobbledydook before this game. Why do you think you can't use meta on him because you haven't played with him before? In the past you haven't had any issues using meta on players you've never played with before. Also, why are you voting him? Nothing I can see in your filter shows anything but a slight scum lean mentioned. | ||
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On February 10 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2015 00:01 LoneMeow wrote: On February 09 2015 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @LM: Because he was okay with both wagons, mostly. I just found it odd for someone to think both wagons were good and not think anything was up with that, but I might be wrong. Why didn't you try to push this point earlier when you were voting him? ? This was in reference to you voting liancourt. I want to know why you did not explain/push the reason for the vote when you voted him, since you apparently had a reason. | ||
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I'll just sheep raynpelikoneet for now. ##Vote: Keirathi | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote: Why rayn over my gobble case.... Like it seemed like you were starting to scum read gobble and then you just drop it and jump on keirathi? I have stronger town read on raynpelikoneet than you and LightningStrike is on gobbledydook... | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:17 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2015 02:37 Damdred wrote: It was almost a year ago LS, gobble hasn't played in like 7 months I believe. OWS won't be the lynch its either kei or gobble and I want gobble obviously. I guess it would be to long ago for me to look at his post history to find the game can you link me his filter so I can see if his behavior here matches his behavior as scum in that game? On February 10 2015 01:13 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2015 00:04 LoneMeow wrote: On February 10 2015 00:00 LightningStrike wrote: I never played with gobbledydook before this game. Why do you think you can't use meta on him because you haven't played with him before? In the past you haven't had any issues using meta on players you've never played with before. Also, why are you voting him? Nothing I can see in your filter shows anything but a slight scum lean mentioned. Because as far i know he never played a game before this one and since his high post count I really don't want to dig into his past but also this is my first time seeing him in the mafia forums. For why I'm voting gobbleydook I really like Damdred's case on him it is a 2 part case esp with the way he just throws scum at me and never pressured me at all and he just throws random scum reads and never pressure them which is extremely scummy tbh with you. So earlier you did not want to meta someone you haven't played with but now suddenly it's ok? | ||
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Everything about him seems off and forced, he hasn't raised any of the questions he usually does (except when explicitly asked about why he doesn't do that) and just generally hasn't been putting in the effort and volunteering his reads like he usually does. | ||
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