Slytherin Mini Mafia

On February 06 2015 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cmon ppl let's fill this up today!

On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
And honestly I'm not sure if Kei should be the lynch today, or we should at least focus elsewhere so today just doesn't revolve around him and his later postings aren't really that bad.

On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
However, I think that there is a really good shot that gobble is scum. There are a few red flags that have cropped up in his small filter that have left me scratching my head in a scum sided way.

Gobbles main interactions in the thread have been casting doubt on people overall. If you look at the first few rayn posts you can see the first him talking about how we shouldn't trust rayn shit wagon etc. This is all fine and food and it is ok to be paranoid and the posts lead you to believe that rayn is a scum read. If you look you will find gobble saying what is rayn even doing and he is hinting that he has a scum read on rayn. I say that he's been acting town and hobble reacts with how which most of the thread explaining why.

Gobble continues casting doubts on trusting rayn However it turns out that gobble has a pretty decent sized town read on rayn. What was the point of all of the doubting and hinting that rayn is actually scum even in the postings slightly before casting doubt.

On February 08 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
His slam post is also interesting it is a lot of doubt and shadow just to come up with a null when pressed. With all of the information its quite surprising that its not a scum lean as it was reading to be but its only a gotta give him more time. Its really weird and kind of really wordy for a null.

On February 09 2015 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote:

Hey welcome to the thread I actually agree with you on LS, is this super alignment indicative?

On February 08 2015 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
^ Above aimed at rayn.

If I had to give a better scumread right now, I'd probably drop SL's name instead. I think he's voting people for rather mediocre reasons and his scumreads are a bit hazier than I would like.

On February 09 2015 07:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Looks okay. Consider him a townlean.

Not really for anything in particular. I just don't see anything wrong with his posting pattern recognition-wise and he seems okay. I forgot that his early early game is sometimes kind of weak because I attacked him for something similar beforehand. Merh.

On February 09 2015 07:09 liancourt wrote:
okazy LM is making me feel better, but i'm disappointed that he's brushing off keira and gob as town

On February 09 2015 09:11 LightningStrike wrote:
3. LoneMeow can you give me your reads and thoughts on Damdreds case on gobbledydook being scum please?

On February 09 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote:


I agree that Keirathi looks better for the latter part of his filter.



I'm not really sure how this makes him scum instead of overly paranoid town. What does he gain as scum from going against someone very vocal and town read by most of the thread?



I don't actually agree that he spends that many words on it and I think being wary of giving a read on Alakaslam is quite understandable given the playstyle.

On February 09 2015 07:33 Damdred wrote:
Lm his posts aren't lining up from post to post. Inconsistencies can be a scum trait you glossed over a few fairly crucial points with how does this make someone scum.

Throwing doubts on townies who are doing things is anti town at best and scum motivated at worst. Why would you go so far as to show doubt on rayn if you think the wagon is bad but you think he is town. It doesn't make sense honestly, town makes bad wagons just as often as scum oushes bad wagons.

His point on me is all weird and feels really gake its there with no real examples and no context.

So tell me what's so towny about gobble lm

On February 08 2015 14:41 gobbledydook wrote:


two parts to this answer:

1) the wagon is bad because its based on an irrelevant premise, not because someone deliberately misread or misrepresented keir so the fact that the wagon is bad shows no alignment of keir.
2) keir's posting, as i explained before, is indicative of someone under pressure due to a bullshit wagon. its different from someone acting defensive because of some bad posting they made. in those cases you could legitimately suggest that theyre defensive because they got caught. with this 'discussion-generating-bullshit' wagon theyre defensive because its bullshit i dont think it tells anything about their alignment.

so keir is still a null.

On February 09 2015 10:54 gobbledydook wrote:
lightning strike is pretty interesting, so what hes been doing is:
1) make a pretty general and boring list of one-sentence reads of everyone, that it doesnt seem like hes thought much about it.
2) makes excuses for not posting
3) sheeps damdred
4) asking simple questions about what X thinks of Y

this betrays a lack of deep thinking, i think its likely he scum tryna get an easy mislynch without doing much

On February 09 2015 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@LM: Because he was okay with both wagons, mostly. I just found it odd for someone to think both wagons were good and not think anything was up with that, but I might be wrong.

On February 10 2015 00:00 LightningStrike wrote:
I never played with gobbledydook before this game.

On February 10 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


?

On February 10 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
Why rayn over my gobble case....

Like it seemed like you were starting to scum read gobble and then you just drop it and jump on keirathi?

On February 10 2015 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:

I guess it would be to long ago for me to look at his post history to find the game can you link me his filter so I can see if his behavior here matches his behavior as scum in that game?

On February 10 2015 01:13 LightningStrike wrote:

Because as far i know he never played a game before this one and since his high post count I really don't want to dig into his past but also this is my first time seeing him in the mafia forums. For why I'm voting gobbleydook I really like Damdred's case on him it is a 2 part case esp with the way he just throws scum at me and never pressured me at all and he just throws random scum reads and never pressure them which is extremely scummy tbh with you.

On February 11 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Any other reactions to reads posted in the thread etc., LM?

On February 11 2015 11:38 gobbledydook wrote:



lets look at this lonemeow post not long ago

hes backtracking on ls after rayn and ows disagree on his scumread, giving a reason 'trying to do something to solve the game', when is it really true that ls filter improved from page 1 - 3 to page 3 - 5? At best i'd say he was trying slightly more. turns out thats enough to change from 'fairly sure hes scum' to 'null-ish'. why?

On February 10 2015 05:36 sicklucker wrote:
Theres also not a horribly bad chance it was two towns about 50% but I would still lynch goobly because a 50% lynch is amazing odds

On February 10 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I played with OWS only as town but his Day 1 is really bad as town so meh. I remember he shot LM who looked really townie in Carol and asked how was he town lol..........

On February 10 2015 13:08 gobbledydook wrote:
went through lonemeows filter coz i forgot he existed
hes doing a good job not getting noticed it seems

like this,


so, this is one of the only times where hes made a concrete read and its bad. he never explains his assertions, he just states them like theyre facts without setting out to prove his case.

On February 10 2015 16:53 Fecalfeast wrote:

This strikes me as a guilty post, questioning townreads on yourself seems weird as town.

On February 11 2015 14:08 Alakaslam wrote:
Like, btw, SL needs to be policies at some point, before lylo, maybe best if i do good first and then can pl sl

On February 11 2015 15:25 gobbledydook wrote:
oh and since i was asked for a list post

rayn is either town, or playing scum so well that i couldnt figure it out in ten years
geripts been hard tunneled on ows since day 1 and the case is good and committal
dont think geript can be scum, if hes scum then ows is 100% town and when ows flips town geripts in a really bad place when he could have avoided that easily
onegus town
ff is unlikely to be mafia coz of rb claim as i said. scumff would involve scum rb+killing lian, which cant be proven wrong but occams razor suggests the most obvious answer of townff getting rbed being correct. hes made some posts that turn out a bit weird but its a far cry from suggesting the scumff theory is the correct one.
ows i said was a coinflip based on the weird vote switching. he looks reasonable after n1, except where he just dismisses liancourt and ls as town without further explanation. i could see ows+ls scumteam here, ls isnt 'obviously town' even if u disagree with him being outright scum
damdred is town hero hes #1
lonemeow is really lurky, and could be the 3rd scum
sl is, idk a bit weird the way he posts, seems floaty, i dont think his case on me is convincing at all, or any case for that matter. if lonemeow isnt the scum then sl probably is
slam is unreadable and he does whatever he wants
ls my #1 scumread, ive given reasons go read my filter, and ff/onegu etc are onto something good.

On February 12 2015 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:


One scumread?
I read four.

On February 12 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So who do you want to lynch LM and why?
I am a bit lost...

On February 12 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

can i have any reasoning?
why not OWS?

On February 13 2015 03:32 Damdred wrote:


This post struck me as interesting when I first read it btw, and it still really is an odd post. As far as I can tell Keirathi was a town lean for LM right before this point.

On February 12 2015 14:38 Damdred wrote:
I actually don't know what it makes slam it makes him a bit more interesting, he will bus when he has to but i'm not sure if this was quite the time for it.

On February 12 2015 15:11 Damdred wrote:
Actually it increases the value and perhaps slam wanting to die over the rb should be looked closer at, in titanic we suicides a role to keep a better one. Could be same scenerio

On February 12 2015 15:16 Damdred wrote:
And SL busses a fair amount so him going on what he thinks is a useless partner isn't out of question.

Sl gives us a good bit of info. Probably mafia are in lm, gobble, slam, ls.

probably a slam lm team. I'm not sure though I'm really drunk

On February 13 2015 00:15 Damdred wrote:
SL, Slam, LM idk if that makes a ton of sense and its not really interesting

On February 13 2015 03:15 Damdred wrote:
Anyway. A few things to think about so far from me, even though Slam loves to bus, SL is a valuable role to keep around and he was getting moderate pressure before his train wreck so him moving over with Rayn really early is a good mark for him I think. Unless gobble is scum of course and is godfather or something and then its completely different. However there is a likely hood that he is town here who is just sheeping rayn towards glory.

On February 13 2015 03:42 Damdred wrote:
I really doubt this, Keirathi only got stronger as the day went, he posted a lot of really towny things right before his death and nobody really blinked?

Your vote is odd and what made you start doubting your read when you were in favor of a gobble case at that point?

On February 13 2015 03:46 Damdred wrote:


What did you want up to that point in the day btw?

On February 13 2015 04:04 Damdred wrote:
LM give me your reads right now and where you are.

On February 13 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
And honestly odd and scum sometimes do go hand in hand.

You have been sort of hard to follow this game LM, some things look good some look meh. And we had a huge coincidence that you popped up right when I made a point lol, which isn't alignment indicative.

I'll think more on it

On February 13 2015 04:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred: Pushed Gobble Day 1 and Day 2 until the sicklucker stuff happened.

On February 13 2015 04:52 LightningStrike wrote:

Because the last time I watched Damdred play scum he didn't push or make a case on someone being Mafia in Day 1 (Imperial)

On February 14 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
I hate doing this but if we lynch the godfather today you are useful if we lynch the other mafia you are a bit useless.

Gobble so you have a red check on ls?

On February 09 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote lian

Would also be willing to wagon geript for his list post. He has 4 people in his questionable pile in yet questions none of them and seems to be perfectly fine with the players giving reads he thinks are unacceptable. There's no way for him to think that all 4 of those players are mafia, in yet he doesn't bother to consult any of them or sort any of it out despite already having two people in his scumlist.

On February 09 2015 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@LM: Because he was okay with both wagons, mostly. I just found it odd for someone to think both wagons were good and not think anything was up with that, but I might be wrong.

On February 11 2015 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
LS/Liancourt: Town. I have absolutely nothing wrong with these slots and I don't understand why other people do.

On February 11 2015 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
LM: Townlean. I kind of already explained this. His activity usually makes it really hard to gauge his alignment but I do like the few posts that he has. My biggest issue with him in Carol was that he was posting like he wanted other people to scumhunt for him and he gave off this really weird aura of wanting to "hide." I'm not getting any of that here, so I think he's mostly okay for the moment.

LS/Liancourt: Town. I have absolutely nothing wrong with these slots and I don't understand why other people do.

On February 12 2015 15:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if LM was mafia, but I'd be thoroughly disappointed.

On February 14 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I do feel like geript would be doing more here but you know, Friday night.

/shrug

LM is probably going to get lynched if he continues to be useless as is. I do agree with what rayn said when he was talking about the late voters being mafia, because SL picked up a bunch of votes and there wasn't any real resistance to it. This usually means we're dealing with an inactive mafia. It's possible there was a bus of some kind but...Eh. That's where we should lynch.

On February 11 2015 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Slam: Scumlean. His start was okay but then he posted a giant wall of nothing, where he came to no conclusion about pretty much anything. Then he decided that he was going to sheep geript despite geript having him as a scumread and then being totally fine with not being townread by geript for it.

On February 11 2015 02:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Slam might be the best lynch tomorrow, though.

On February 12 2015 12:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ftr, I don't think that Slam's actually that scummy as of right now. I think the martyring and the fact that he was trying to push the thread forward was actually kind of towny.

On February 12 2015 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Yes. Slam busses literally all the time.

On February 12 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It makes Slam probably mafia and needing a lynch tomorrow.

He busses literally all the time. Despite having SL as his top lynch (even if it was for policy) he basically made a giant post stating that he didn't know what to do or what was going on and opted to sheep geript instead despite not being able to read him or rayn.

He had absolutely no interest in lynching SL if he didn't have to and was looking for a reason to vote someone else.

On February 11 2015 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of SL's votes look like he's just trying not to get modkilled. He came back and took a stance when he was back in the thread.

What's the problem?

On February 10 2015 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
We agree on something. Can we lynch slam before obi?

On February 10 2015 05:35 sicklucker wrote:
Its very very unlikely that if obis mafia and under the microscope that he switches his vote 3 times at eod...

On February 13 2015 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also this gobbledude is town. Confirmed. Just because sl would have voted keirathi on d1.

On February 15 2015 03:22 Onegu wrote:



One thing give me a reason you aren't scum, and your biggest scum read.


Will be around for a while then dinner with wife and some after hour entertainment. So if you need me talk to me now, or wait until late late tonight or tomorrow.

On February 15 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:


If theres a cop their is a good shot that a godfather exists in the game. Its a bit wifom but goon, rb, godfather isn't the most otherworldy setup.

Because of gobbles filter.

That's interesting question though, you aren't asking why I think gobbles cop. You are asking why I think he has a red check

On February 15 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:


So obi and who is scum again?

On February 15 2015 03:45 Damdred wrote:
No but seriously someone else has to have tickled your fancy. Just by looking in your filter and things that we really can't change in general we have.

Damdred-town
Onegu- confirmed town
FF- Town, lazy town now though
Gobble- Townish by your own admission

Which leaves, LS, OWS, LM Geript

Obviously you won't say yourself you have OWS as scum so that leaves Geript and LS?

What do you think of those last two?

On February 15 2015 03:59 Damdred wrote:
So lets take a step back then,

Who on the town list is wrong then if LS doesn't feel right to you?

On February 15 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
What's funny is that I'm basically voting to save your life, in yet you're calling me out anyway.

looool

On February 15 2015 04:40 Damdred wrote:


I'm not exactly sure if these are actual good reasons.

For example SL likes to vote useless team mates but will secure mislynches most of the time. In void 100% would of voted HTS for being useless and being found out. He somewhat bus'd JAT that game as well, so not sure how the vote makes gobble that much confirmed to take them off the table.

I'm not sure why you would rather be wrong about LS?

On February 15 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
LM: why is it that SL's defense is the thing that stood out to you when so many other people said the same thing?

On February 15 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
Its interesting to me in all of our talking LM never pointed out that I missed slam in everything I pointed out.

LM what do you think of slam?

On February 15 2015 05:45 Damdred wrote:
Who were the two people SL was most hostile towards in his filter?

On February 15 2015 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


So is that still a big issue for you even though you know that this isn't the case?

On February 15 2015 06:02 Onegu wrote:
So you want us to believe town got masons and a vet, 2 things that can't be RB, and mafia got a RB?

You have an extra night life. If you are RBed, that night life is suppressed during the RB.

On February 15 2015 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok this seems like a good time to claim. I am fence(gunsmith) n1 i was rb and tried to give gun to damdred. N2 i gave to rayn and he died... Us the setup really balanced for vet/gunsmith/mason/mason?

On February 15 2015 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok this seems like a good time to claim. I am fence(gunsmith) n1 i was rb and tried to give gun to damdred. N2 i gave to rayn and he died... Us the setup really balanced for vet/gunsmith/mason/mason?

On February 15 2015 06:09 Damdred wrote:
4 blues is to many one is lieing....

On February 15 2015 06:16 Damdred wrote:
This is a relaly bad time for FF to claim.

Why did you claim FF when you could of gotten a gun to onegu or myself or someone instead of getting rb again?

On February 15 2015 06:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
And yes i confirmed with bh that my gun was lost

On February 15 2015 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why would he claim veteran there? It's not like it was close to deadline, I hadn't claimed gunsmith at that point so it wasn't to try and figure out the balancing of the setup, and he was actually in the thread talking at the time.

On February 15 2015 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
My main point here is that claiming vet as town in that situation is quite possibly the worst thing to do. Cop has not claimed so you're not really determining balance and you've effectively neutered your role since RB defeats the vest. No, it seems almost exactly like a scum who's under pressure in thread and wants to save himself for a day, since scum isn't in a terrible spot if they land another ML before we hit scum.

On February 15 2015 10:57 Fecalfeast wrote:

seems like a panic post. 'shit I haven't been playing a good vet at all, let's see if I can pretend I was breadcrumbing'

On February 15 2015 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:


Play a strong town game to try and bait a mafia shot but since that didn't happen...

Question damdred on why he felt the need to out our cop. Wait until closer to deadline to start claiming out of a lynch.

I just don't see playing veteran the way LM has at all, let alone claiming when he did. His claim is literally just to get votes off himself, it provides town with nothing, AND outed out other blue role (me)

On February 16 2015 02:44 Onegu wrote:
If you flip blue I'd lynch LS

On February 16 2015 03:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
LM where are you intending to move your vote?

On February 16 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Do we have anyone else willing to switch to Slam?

On February 16 2015 04:39 geript wrote:
I do have a hard time how figuring how if LM just really doesn't give a fuck or if he just doesn't really give a fuck who gets lynched.

On February 17 2015 01:40 Damdred wrote:
Well I still wanted gobble but yea