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Here's a quick update on where I stand:
Upgraded LightningStrike to null-ish, looks better now that he's trying to do something to solve the game.
Downgraded Alakaslam to leaning scum for not doing anything at all and that post on his "reads".
It bothers me that I can't seem to find more scum reads, makes me think there's a possibility that there's scum in raynpelikoneet/Damdred/geript who I think are good enough that I don't stand much of a chance figuring them out (this early at least), but I'll worry about that later.
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On February 11 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote: Any other reactions to reads posted in the thread etc., LM?
I haven't had the time to think properly, so I'll leave that until morning. Doubt I'll be shot anyway.
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On February 11 2015 11:38 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:31 LoneMeow wrote: Here's a quick update on where I stand:
Upgraded LightningStrike to null-ish, looks better now that he's trying to do something to solve the game.
Downgraded Alakaslam to leaning scum for not doing anything at all and that post on his "reads".
It bothers me that I can't seem to find more scum reads, makes me think there's a possibility that there's scum in raynpelikoneet/Damdred/geript who I think are good enough that I don't stand much of a chance figuring them out (this early at least), but I'll worry about that later. lets look at this lonemeow post not long ago hes backtracking on ls after rayn and ows disagree on his scumread, giving a reason 'trying to do something to solve the game', when is it really true that ls filter improved from page 1 - 3 to page 3 - 5? At best i'd say he was trying slightly more. turns out thats enough to change from 'fairly sure hes scum' to 'null-ish'. why?
Trying or not trying is exactly how you get a read on LightningStrike. He's often a bit off the deep end but if he's clearly trying he's a lost town puppy, not scum.
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On February 10 2015 05:36 sicklucker wrote: Theres also not a horribly bad chance it was two towns about 50% but I would still lynch goobly because a 50% lynch is amazing odds
Can you explain the reasoning behind the number? Why 50%?
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On February 10 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: I played with OWS only as town but his Day 1 is really bad as town so meh. I remember he shot LM who looked really townie in Carol and asked how was he town lol..........
Just because: I'd say this is factually incorrect, most of the town reads on me were from scum and you weren't exactly calling me really townie either.
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On February 10 2015 13:08 gobbledydook wrote:went through lonemeows filter coz i forgot he existed hes doing a good job not getting noticed it seems like this, Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 03:23 LoneMeow wrote: Can we just lynch the crap out of LightningStrike? I'm fairly sure he's scum.
Everything about him seems off and forced, he hasn't raised any of the questions he usually does (except when explicitly asked about why he doesn't do that) and just generally hasn't been putting in the effort and volunteering his reads like he usually does. so, this is one of the only times where hes made a concrete read and its bad. he never explains his assertions, he just states them like theyre facts without setting out to prove his case.
Pot calling the kettle, eh? It's not like you've been shining with producing concrete reads. Also if you did actually read my filter you'd notice that I made some points against him earlier and this was somewhat of a reiteration.
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On February 10 2015 16:53 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 14:46 LightningStrike wrote: I still kind of shocked that Damdred gave me a instant town read on me after I started posting O_o This strikes me as a guilty post, questioning townreads on yourself seems weird as town.
I disagree with this assessment. I have somewhat of a similar feel about the times people have said they have a town read on me since I'm quite aware of my own play...
The rest of the case was not terrible.
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On February 11 2015 14:08 Alakaslam wrote: Like, btw, SL needs to be policies at some point, before lylo, maybe best if i do good first and then can pl sl
Could you perhaps finally explain why he needs to be policy lynched?
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On February 11 2015 15:25 gobbledydook wrote: oh and since i was asked for a list post
rayn is either town, or playing scum so well that i couldnt figure it out in ten years geripts been hard tunneled on ows since day 1 and the case is good and committal dont think geript can be scum, if hes scum then ows is 100% town and when ows flips town geripts in a really bad place when he could have avoided that easily onegus town ff is unlikely to be mafia coz of rb claim as i said. scumff would involve scum rb+killing lian, which cant be proven wrong but occams razor suggests the most obvious answer of townff getting rbed being correct. hes made some posts that turn out a bit weird but its a far cry from suggesting the scumff theory is the correct one. ows i said was a coinflip based on the weird vote switching. he looks reasonable after n1, except where he just dismisses liancourt and ls as town without further explanation. i could see ows+ls scumteam here, ls isnt 'obviously town' even if u disagree with him being outright scum damdred is town hero hes #1 lonemeow is really lurky, and could be the 3rd scum sl is, idk a bit weird the way he posts, seems floaty, i dont think his case on me is convincing at all, or any case for that matter. if lonemeow isnt the scum then sl probably is slam is unreadable and he does whatever he wants ls my #1 scumread, ive given reasons go read my filter, and ff/onegu etc are onto something good.
Super inconsistent reads. Made a case and pushed me but then I'm "could be 3rd scum"? The way he dropped the push on me and went after LightningStrike without me even posting in between seems so opportunistic. Couldn't get traction on me so went after another easy target? Scum much?
Someone tell me if I'm just OMGUSing him please.
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On February 12 2015 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 02:12 LightningStrike wrote:I only had 1 main scumread as mafia in Day 3 keep in mind Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 06:15 LightningStrike wrote: I was just wating for more posts to get some better reads that why I haven't posted much because there was really much for me to ready. I still waiting for alakaslam, Dicksmash McIroncock, and Meatpudding to post. My reads are atm the following Town: Oatsmaster, sicklucker, Damdred, kushm4sta, Trfel Null: Half the Sky, Breshke, Alakaslam Scum: Dicksmash McIroncock, Meatpudding. Dicksmash didn't post anything after his first post for the day and Meatpudding is either trolling us with the stuff he posted earlier or he scum but time will tell. Alakaslam at least gave a good explanation for his posts. Breshke gave a explanation on why he voted for sicklucker Half the Sky made some decent posts but it reads null in my eyes but I still kind of new to TL Mafia (2nd game in TL mafia). One scumread? I read four.
Why do I get such a huge déjà vu from this?-D
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On February 12 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: So who do you want to lynch LM and why? I am a bit lost...
Right now gobbledydook, I think. Wouldn't mind Alakaslam either.
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raynpelikoneet, why did you switch to sicklucker?
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On February 12 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 04:42 LoneMeow wrote:On February 12 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: So who do you want to lynch LM and why? I am a bit lost... Right now gobbledydook, I think. Wouldn't mind Alakaslam either. can i have any reasoning? why not OWS?
gobbledydook largely because the way he switched his push from me to LightningStrike looks purely opportunistic. Alakaslam because despite what I thought of him earlier he's done nothing but sheep and push his "policy lynch" which I believe is indicative of a scum Alakaslam.
I'm a bit waffly on ObiWanShinobi, some of the points against him are not terrible but: I don't believe his actions near the deadline are as damning as you made them be (depends a bit on what gobbledydook flips though). The way he reacted when I questioned him during day 1 about his liancourt vote looks towny to me; I believe as scum he'd try to come up with some explanation rather than just say "shrug, dunno". + Show Spoiler [Referring to this sequence] +On February 10 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 00:01 LoneMeow wrote:On February 09 2015 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @LM: Because he was okay with both wagons, mostly. I just found it odd for someone to think both wagons were good and not think anything was up with that, but I might be wrong. Why didn't you try to push this point earlier when you were voting him? ? On February 10 2015 00:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: /shrug
Idk, I thought it would have been obvious I guess.
I guess it mostly comes down to me not seeing anything terribly towny or scummy in his play.
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##Vote: sicklucker
The whut happened while I was gone.
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On February 13 2015 03:32 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 03:12 LoneMeow wrote: I don't quite agree that Keirathi has done nothing to contribute in scum hunting, he has asked some relevant questions. Followup and conclusions on those seems to be lacking though so meh, maybe he is scum.
I'll just sheep raynpelikoneet for now.
##Vote: Keirathi This post struck me as interesting when I first read it btw, and it still really is an odd post. As far as I can tell Keirathi was a town lean for LM right before this point.
He was, then I was forced to reread and started doubting my read.
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On February 12 2015 14:38 Damdred wrote: I actually don't know what it makes slam it makes him a bit more interesting, he will bus when he has to but i'm not sure if this was quite the time for it.
On February 12 2015 15:11 Damdred wrote: Actually it increases the value and perhaps slam wanting to die over the rb should be looked closer at, in titanic we suicides a role to keep a better one. Could be same scenerio
On February 12 2015 15:16 Damdred wrote: And SL busses a fair amount so him going on what he thinks is a useless partner isn't out of question.
Sl gives us a good bit of info. Probably mafia are in lm, gobble, slam, ls.
probably a slam lm team. I'm not sure though I'm really drunk
On February 13 2015 00:15 Damdred wrote: SL, Slam, LM idk if that makes a ton of sense and its not really interesting
On February 13 2015 03:15 Damdred wrote: Anyway. A few things to think about so far from me, even though Slam loves to bus, SL is a valuable role to keep around and he was getting moderate pressure before his train wreck so him moving over with Rayn really early is a good mark for him I think. Unless gobble is scum of course and is godfather or something and then its completely different. However there is a likely hood that he is town here who is just sheeping rayn towards glory.
On February 13 2015 03:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 00:31 OnceKing wrote:Vote countsicklucker (10) : raynpelikoneet, FecalFeast, Alakaslam, gobbledydook, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Onegu, LightningStrike, geript, LoneMeow Alakaslam (1): sickluckerCurrently, sicklucker is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in at 20:00 GMT (+00:00).
Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain.
Why did your read on Alakaslam change so drastically here?
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On February 13 2015 03:42 Damdred wrote: I really doubt this, Keirathi only got stronger as the day went, he posted a lot of really towny things right before his death and nobody really blinked?
Your vote is odd and what made you start doubting your read when you were in favor of a gobble case at that point?
Some day you'll learn the difference between "odd" and "scum".
I trust the reads of some of the players in this game more than my own; then the question simply becomes do I trust my read on them when I think they're town and push for a totally different lynch than what I'd want.
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On February 13 2015 03:46 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:On February 13 2015 03:42 Damdred wrote: I really doubt this, Keirathi only got stronger as the day went, he posted a lot of really towny things right before his death and nobody really blinked?
Your vote is odd and what made you start doubting your read when you were in favor of a gobble case at that point? Some day you'll learn the difference between "odd" and "scum". I trust the reads of some of the players in this game more than my own; then the question simply becomes do I trust my read on them when I think they're town and push for a totally different lynch than what I'd want. What did you want up to that point in the day btw?
LightningStrike. For not being the town puppy.
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On February 13 2015 04:04 Damdred wrote: LM give me your reads right now and where you are.
Well honestly the shenanigans invalidated pretty much everything I had, so I'm still re-evaluating.
Leaving out the "obvious" town/scum, I have:
Leaning town: LightningStrike Damdred geript
Null: ObiWanShinobi
Leaning scum or what the hell ever, how does anyone get a solid read on this guy: Alakaslam
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On February 13 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote: And honestly odd and scum sometimes do go hand in hand.
You have been sort of hard to follow this game LM, some things look good some look meh. And we had a huge coincidence that you popped up right when I made a point lol, which isn't alignment indicative.
I'll think more on it
Quote at least one post of mine that you find towny and explain why. These weakly substantiated "he has some towny posts" reads are getting old. Would not mind if the others who have given me town reads would do the same.
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