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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 03:34 GMT
#4741
this is a little painful lol, he was obnoxious in void

preliminary observations (i'm only like 15% through it) he was comfortable lightly pressuring his scummates, but wasn't really giving out many reads, just picking at things or snarking
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 03:35 GMT
#4742
Yep fuck it let's shoot bats. If he flips scum JAT cannot possibly be town.

We know there's a vig and honestly it never really made sense for scum vig not to shoot town, so Breshke is town. No way town has a cop and a 2-shot vig and mafia doesn't even have an rb to save Koshi with, and we already invalidated the only conspiracy theory for not saving Koshi that really made sense (except I guess for subbing in marv for HF).

Actually maybe we shoot JAT? After all my only teams left are JAT/marv and JAT/bats...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 03:35 GMT
#4743
On February 09 2015 12:34 rsoultin wrote:
this is a little painful lol, he was obnoxious in void

preliminary observations (i'm only like 15% through it) he was comfortable lightly pressuring his scummates, but wasn't really giving out many reads, just picking at things or snarking

1) Read his filter this game
2) Remove his HF tunnel
3) ???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 03:39 GMT
#4744
lol, i'm only 15% through it eden, and I still think this is a really imperfect way to determine alignment. I won't have time to compare a town game to this, yet alone multiple
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 03:44 GMT
#4745
On February 09 2015 12:35 Eden1892 wrote:
Yep fuck it let's shoot bats. If he flips scum JAT cannot possibly be town.

We know there's a vig and honestly it never really made sense for scum vig not to shoot town, so Breshke is town. No way town has a cop and a 2-shot vig and mafia doesn't even have an rb to save Koshi with, and we already invalidated the only conspiracy theory for not saving Koshi that really made sense (except I guess for subbing in marv for HF).

Actually maybe we shoot JAT? After all my only teams left are JAT/marv and JAT/bats...


well, unless you're worried that town won't lynch JAT tomorrow, it may be better to shoot into a question mark? I don't think we'd be any closer to an answer on who the third scum is if JAT is shot and flips scum...even if he flips gf really cause that doesn't preclude bats from fake-claiming
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 03:55 GMT
#4746
Actually, if there's a GF there should be a cop or the setup's really weird, and bats should already be CC'd, so the only problem is if he flips something other than the GF. Disregard that last statement.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 09 2015 03:57 GMT
#4747
Yeah something has been nagging me.

A cop check was really risky on JAT with the chance of me shooting him
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 04:06 GMT
#4748
On February 09 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:
Yeah something has been nagging me.

A cop check was really risky on JAT with the chance of me shooting him


Did you ever commit to koshi in-thread? I know HF was saying to shoot, and so was I. Like, I fully expected you to shoot koshi, myself, but that doesn't mean you explicitly said it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 04:12 GMT
#4749
On February 09 2015 13:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:
Yeah something has been nagging me.

A cop check was really risky on JAT with the chance of me shooting him


Did you ever commit to koshi in-thread? I know HF was saying to shoot, and so was I. Like, I fully expected you to shoot koshi, myself, but that doesn't mean you explicitly said it.


EBWOP:
Or at least say the next day that you made the attempt to xP lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 09 2015 04:16 GMT
#4750
Im not exactly sure how i came off in the thread you are probably better at reading that than i am but i don't think i ever explicitly said i was going to shoot koshi but if you say it was fairly obvious then it probably was i guess.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 09 2015 04:21 GMT
#4751
On February 09 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
LS, I've got a question for you.

Have you read jat's town and scum games? I'm looking through Void now, but not doing a comparison as both alignments is going to produce flawed conclusions. I've never played with jat before, which makes me reluctant to evaluate his meta. His behavior in this game has been scummy enough on it's own to worry about a bats/jat scumteam or a gf/framer. Also should probably look at a scum game under his own name instead of a smurf, since I think people go out of their way not to reveal who they are on smurfs.

I played with JAT as town and saw him play scum in Void and he was a lot less hissy pissy as town than Void and this game and he much more engaging with people for example in Metal Mini he was engaging me with lots of questions asking me why I gave the answer I did and tried to figure it out my alignment in Page 2-4 in his filter in Metal Mini.
Here was the game I played with JAT when we were both town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=justanothertownie
I will check for another game when he was playing his main account.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 04:22 GMT
#4752
It's kind of annoying that LS isn't being proactive in trying to solve the game because otherwise we could just kill bats/marv/JAT by POE
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 04:25 GMT
#4753
I forgot jat was in mini...was he killed early or something?

heh, just found jat ironically making the same argument against HF in Void as he did here, saying he wasn't pushing his "top scumread" at EoD when HF called him scum

that's ironic
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 09 2015 04:25 GMT
#4754
The next time LS links another game i think i might explode.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 09 2015 04:26 GMT
#4755
He was NK'd in N1 in Metal and I did point a spot to look at
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 09 2015 04:27 GMT
#4756
On February 09 2015 13:25 rsoultin wrote:
I forgot jat was in mini...was he killed early or something?

heh, just found jat ironically making the same argument against HF in Void as he did here, saying he wasn't pushing his "top scumread" at EoD when HF called him scum

that's ironic

Ironic? More like JAT scum times in a row?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 09 2015 04:27 GMT
#4757
On February 09 2015 13:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:25 rsoultin wrote:
I forgot jat was in mini...was he killed early or something?

heh, just found jat ironically making the same argument against HF in Void as he did here, saying he wasn't pushing his "top scumread" at EoD when HF called him scum

that's ironic

Ironic? More like JAT scum 2 times in a row?

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 04:28 GMT
#4758
On February 09 2015 13:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
LS, I've got a question for you.

Have you read jat's town and scum games? I'm looking through Void now, but not doing a comparison as both alignments is going to produce flawed conclusions. I've never played with jat before, which makes me reluctant to evaluate his meta. His behavior in this game has been scummy enough on it's own to worry about a bats/jat scumteam or a gf/framer. Also should probably look at a scum game under his own name instead of a smurf, since I think people go out of their way not to reveal who they are on smurfs.

I played with JAT as town and saw him play scum in Void and he was a lot less hissy pissy as town than Void and this game and he much more engaging with people for example in Metal Mini he was engaging me with lots of questions asking me why I gave the answer I did and tried to figure it out my alignment in Page 2-4 in his filter in Metal Mini.
Here was the game I played with JAT when we were both town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=justanothertownie
I will check for another game when he was playing his main account.


honestly, ls, the writing style of obnoxious one-liners, sarcasm and leading questions is striking me as very similar across games xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 04:30 GMT
#4759
On February 09 2015 13:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 13:25 rsoultin wrote:
I forgot jat was in mini...was he killed early or something?

heh, just found jat ironically making the same argument against HF in Void as he did here, saying he wasn't pushing his "top scumread" at EoD when HF called him scum

that's ironic

Ironic? More like JAT scum times in a row?


Only if that's an argument he wouldn't also make as town? It does support HF's point that there's no way jat doesn't realize that HF can switch scumreads as town, though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2015 04:35 GMT
#4760
LS, can you tell me why JAT is scum this game? I'm not going to be able to do a proper meta analysis, and frankly I don't trust myself much with them, anyway.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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