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On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce.
For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.)
Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^
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He and koshi were also the loudest players trying to keep Breshke from taking a shot. I find that reason less compelling, though.
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On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^
I literally solved the game today.
On February 08 2015 05:22 rsoultin wrote:
He and koshi were also the loudest players trying to keep Breshke from taking a shot. I find that reason less compelling, though.
Because shooting was the objectively incorrect play. Had he shot me instead of Koshi then we would be in triple LYLO already for example. And town almost never wins in triple LYLO.
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On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^
You've been talking about jat's case for hours so saying you don't remember him trying to solve the game isn't really fair. Like if jat is town that case is a massive effort at trying to solve the game. Also jat rarely makes cases in any game... he's more of a conversational player so again, the case is a big deal.
Can you explain the SL vote thing and why it makes him scummy? I voted SL and I didn't give any reasons for it. Do you have me dead to rights too?
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On February 08 2015 05:25 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^ You've been talking about jat's case for hours so saying you don't remember him trying to solve the game isn't really fair. Like if jat is town that case is a massive effort at trying to solve the game. Also jat rarely makes cases in any game... he's more of a conversational player so again, the case is a big deal. Can you explain the SL vote thing and why it makes him scummy? I voted SL and I didn't give any reasons for it. Do you have me dead to rights too?
Bats, I could explain it again, but frankly I've done it about 3 times. If you didn't agree with it then, you won't now. The point was not who he voted, but his reads at EoD which made staying on SL highly suspect.
The case is clearly defensive. He has one point in the first section that's frankly weak, and the second section is all ways of saying how he isn't scum therefore HF must be rather than proving anything about HF. If he's town, then yeah, I'd agree he's trying to solve the game, but have to say he should stick to conversation cause the case just isn't good.
(That's really not a dig at you either, jat, if you really are town, cause my cases get laughed at when I try to make them, too, even when I am right on my read.)
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I would say that if jat is mafia then rs is an easier target but that's not proving to be the case... HF hasn't done anything today other than have a small conversation with me.
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On February 08 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:25 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^ You've been talking about jat's case for hours so saying you don't remember him trying to solve the game isn't really fair. Like if jat is town that case is a massive effort at trying to solve the game. Also jat rarely makes cases in any game... he's more of a conversational player so again, the case is a big deal. Can you explain the SL vote thing and why it makes him scummy? I voted SL and I didn't give any reasons for it. Do you have me dead to rights too? Bats, I could explain it again, but frankly I've done it about 3 times. If you didn't agree with it then, you won't now. The point was not who he voted, but his reads at EoD which made staying on SL highly suspect. The case is clearly defensive. He has one point in the first section that's frankly weak, and the second section is all ways of saying how he isn't scum therefore HF must be rather than proving anything about HF. If he's town, then yeah, I'd agree he's trying to solve the game, but have to say he should stick to conversation cause the case just isn't good. (That's really not a dig at you either, jat, if you really are town, cause my cases get laughed at when I try to make them, too, even when I am right on my read.)
There is no way you arrive at the bolded conclusion if you read my case. Absolutely no way.
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On February 08 2015 05:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:25 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^ You've been talking about jat's case for hours so saying you don't remember him trying to solve the game isn't really fair. Like if jat is town that case is a massive effort at trying to solve the game. Also jat rarely makes cases in any game... he's more of a conversational player so again, the case is a big deal. Can you explain the SL vote thing and why it makes him scummy? I voted SL and I didn't give any reasons for it. Do you have me dead to rights too? Bats, I could explain it again, but frankly I've done it about 3 times. If you didn't agree with it then, you won't now. The point was not who he voted, but his reads at EoD which made staying on SL highly suspect. The case is clearly defensive. He has one point in the first section that's frankly weak, and the second section is all ways of saying how he isn't scum therefore HF must be rather than proving anything about HF. If he's town, then yeah, I'd agree he's trying to solve the game, but have to say he should stick to conversation cause the case just isn't good. (That's really not a dig at you either, jat, if you really are town, cause my cases get laughed at when I try to make them, too, even when I am right on my read.) There is no way you arrive at the bolded conclusion if you read my case. Absolutely no way.
We've already had this conversation. I posted my thoughts on your case when bats asked me the first time.
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On February 08 2015 05:32 batsnacks wrote:
I would say that if jat is mafia then rs is an easier target but that's not proving to be the case... HF hasn't done anything today other than have a small conversation with me.
There are a lot of people missing today, bats, but yeah, I was wondering where HF got off to as well -_-
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Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes.
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On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes.
My guess is that LS and breshke are just afk and that's why their votes are still on me. Eden already said he would lynch HF and not me.
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On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes.
I can't speak for everyone else; I'm sorry. If there's anything else you want from me, just ask?
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On February 08 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes. I can't speak for everyone else; I'm sorry. If there's anything else you want from me, just ask?
Vote HF? 
I swear he's the better lynch I wouldn't lie as either alignment about this.
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On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^
I find this deeply ironic
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On February 08 2015 05:40 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes. I can't speak for everyone else; I'm sorry. If there's anything else you want from me, just ask? Vote HF? I swear he's the better lynch I wouldn't lie as either alignment about this.
You'd have to convince me he's the better lynch with logic, bats. I'm not sure that you're town, and even if I was, I generally don't blindly follow people unless I have no other choice.
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On February 08 2015 05:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:18 batsnacks wrote:
What's the case on jat?
He has many votes and reasons are scarce. For me it's mostly just how he was behaving at EoD and being pretty forgettable the rest of the game. Sure, he fought back against people scumreading him, but I don't remember him helping trying to solve the game or anything. (And yes, mostly I'm just going off what I've seen many others say in the thread about Jat's town game being infinitely better than this.) Pretty sure I've got him dead to rights on that SL vote though ^^ I find this deeply ironic
xP Yeah, I know I'm a hypocrite. Doesn't make it less true.
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I'm glad you're aware at least :>
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On February 08 2015 05:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:40 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes. I can't speak for everyone else; I'm sorry. If there's anything else you want from me, just ask? Vote HF? I swear he's the better lynch I wouldn't lie as either alignment about this. You'd have to convince me he's the better lynch with logic, bats. I'm not sure that you're town, and even if I was, I generally don't blindly follow people unless I have no other choice.
That's sort of the point though. HF is logically the better lynch right now.
jat did things today, HF hasn't.
YOU have done more today than HF.
HF is the better lynch.
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RS if HF is town he doesn't need you to defend him. He needs you to vote him to motivate him to defend himself.
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On February 08 2015 05:46 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 05:44 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:40 batsnacks wrote:On February 08 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 05:36 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah we don't need to have this conversation twice. I'm just curious why HF looks better than jat. I don't understand it and I want to, and apparently other people do understand it because jat has more votes. I can't speak for everyone else; I'm sorry. If there's anything else you want from me, just ask? Vote HF? I swear he's the better lynch I wouldn't lie as either alignment about this. You'd have to convince me he's the better lynch with logic, bats. I'm not sure that you're town, and even if I was, I generally don't blindly follow people unless I have no other choice. That's sort of the point though. HF is logically the better lynch right now. jat did things today, HF hasn't. YOU have done more today than HF. HF is the better lynch.
If activity was the only reason I thought jat was scum, that would make sense? But if HF continues being AFK throughout the day phase, I'll consider switching. Gonna read those old games in the meantime.
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