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On January 31 2015 13:05 sicklucker wrote:


eh? since when? Usually he has nothing

On February 01 2015 03:08 rsoultin wrote:
LS' play has gotten progressively more townie as the game went on, imo. I, too, found his read on SL odd, so I can't blame Damdred for that.

If Damdy still thinks that LS is scum, though, I'd like to hear why.

On February 01 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
like it's one thing to call it silly for no reason but there's literally nothing different between the quotes which i've provided

On February 01 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:


I'm not purposefully being dense about anyone, Damdred -_- Though that word is used to describe me so often lately I may just use that as a smurf if I ever make one.

Not wanting to lynch someone you could lynch a second ago solely because they said something funny is just...eh. I've beaten this point to death. I was hoping you had something better cause I don't think that'll ever make sense to me.

I get that on SL. I pressured him, too, for similar reasons.

It's just you sad what...that he LS wasn't scumhunting. That he wasn't acting like he does when he's town. That he didn't have 3 townreads already based on meta...then nah you're okay with LS when you're asked. Just finding it hard to buy that those arguments don't add up to at least a scumlean. What more would you need from LS to call him scum?

On February 01 2015 13:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why are you already martyring? There's more than 15 hours or something to go..

On February 01 2015 13:12 sicklucker wrote:


I find it does this as either alignment. He always has to be right hes that kind of guy. remember that huge pointless fight in mspaint?

On February 01 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:


It's Day 1. Everything's horrid. Nitpicking my HTS read to death when most of my defense was just quoting myself or repeating what I'd already said is horrid.

I don't get what you're doing.

But okay, I will pull back on you to give you space, cause right now it looks like you're just scumming people pushing you...and SL.

Do you have any reason to believe the people you are scumreading are scum that isn't Damdred-centric? That includes reading (or not reading) posts that you've written. Your initial case on Trfel was before he re-entered the thread.

On February 01 2015 13:27 rsoultin wrote:


I'm sorry? Which of the three of us hasn't been pressuring you? (Maybe it's the wording I'm using.) It's not factually incorrect...I already indicated SL was the outlier.

I need to relook at trfel. I haven't really had the opportunity lately.

On February 01 2015 13:53 Holyflare wrote:


please quote where I have forgot a single thing in this game at all because that's also a lie

On February 01 2015 14:00 Holyflare wrote:


so I thought a guy was super scummy, figured out it didn't make him scummy and moved on and that makes me scum? wtf

On February 01 2015 14:08 Trfel wrote:

Yes, I wasn't very effective at the start of the game. I won't deny that. However, as I have discussed already, that list post stated that I was suspicious of sicklucker. I've maintained this view throughout the game. When I look back at it, it's actually not a big list post, it's a small collection of a few thoughts. The post looks small, it is small, there is no intent to try and force reads.

What about the times where I went against the thread sentiment, like when I started considering defending rsoultin? And when I said that the mafia seem to be lurking, and that the thread is potentially primarily townies? I still stand by that statement, by the way. In the past, my intuition like that has been correct (see Carol of the Bells, where I felt that the mafia were supporting my case on KelsierSC, and Newbie Mafia, where I felt that all of the Day 1 lynch targets were town and that scum wasn't having to do anything). I think that sicklucker is most likely to be scum, and I have kept this view rather consistently. I'm also suspicious of rsoultin and Damdred.

I wasn't pushing you. I disagreed with your reads and statements (still do), and I responded more aggressively than I should have. Believe me, if I want to push someone, I would open up with a comprehensive case and then use that to push the lynch, not baseless comments. See my play in Student Mafia IV and Carol of the Bells.

I looked through your filter, and while I disagreed with several of your reads and reasoning, I didn't think there was enough to lynch you at the time. Are you saying that there is anything wrong with this? My looking through your filter shows that I am scumhunting, and if you are in fact town, then deciding not to lynch you is a good decision. I didn't provide evidence, since the reason I decided not to lynch you yet was more a lack of sufficient evidence for you being scum, not evidence for you being town.

On February 01 2015 15:31 Holyflare wrote:
nobody cares that you think palmar is a policy lynch all people cared about was that you said palmar was a policy lynch and then said you wouldn't lynch palmar today based on absolutely nothing and then maintained he was still a policy lynch for you that you COULD lynch -.-

On February 01 2015 16:16 Holyflare wrote:


I misremembered seeing as I've literally just blanked every statement people have repeated about you because it's fucking boring and everyone ignored me. Did you remember what I wrote in void when you decided to ignore me in lynching mafia HTS? apparently not because you went against me there, you don't follow me, you don't listen to me so why does it matter what i'm pushing or not?

i'm really quite mad you've claimed blue for no reason and then the first thing you did is talk about palmar again instead of trying to literally do anything quite productive, you though it was best to defend yourself EVEN FURTHER when you literally just claimed a role - it boggled my mind and annoyed me because you continually go against what I think of you as a player

the point i didn't understand and what everyone else didn't understand is how you town read palmar and didn't want to lynch him today despite the overwhelming evidence that when he didn't read his role pm he's mafia as chez pointed out and his continual trolling, you've literally ignored a player because he made you laugh over a proven meta which didn't make any sense and made you look bad and you were too stubborn to see it and wasted like what? 20 pages making people question you over it when you could have just ignored the entirety of it and focused on what i've been saying

instead you're now saying you've scum read me for literally being boring when I have 10 pages(?) of filter that continually pushes people, just because you fail to read it does not make me mafia it makes you bad


now how about actually reading my content and then questioning that instead of moving on with baseless statements like i'm boring

On February 02 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
Also, I'm not really liking Eden this game on a gut level that I'd have to iron out, but why do people want him as a lynch over all the other possible lynches today?

Damdred, can you answer that? HF?

On February 02 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:


Look at this, the bolded looks fucking weird. And SL NEVER really answers in a very good way that could be innocent but Eden totally drops it past a couple one liners and moves on to pushing me then afking on ff?

On February 02 2015 03:30 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, I didn't get to look at all of Eden1892's filter, but I don't think it's as bad as you say it is.

Eden was pressuring sicklucker with the "my meta says" phrase as well.

I can understand that he says Palmar is town while still scumreading you for changing your stance on Palmar. He isn't scumreading you for not wanting to lynch Palmar, he is scumreading you for changing your stance without Palmar doing anything.

I think I will leave my vote on Robik. I want Robik lynched. I don't know how people will respond to the Eden1892 lynch, I wish I could be here, but I can't. Therefore I will go with my instinct.

Whatever happens, hopefully you guys lynch a scum.

On February 02 2015 03:58 rsoultin wrote:


What are you talking about?

On February 02 2015 03:58 Trfel wrote:

I hear you. Like I said, I didn't have the fact checking to really know at the time I needed to leave. I will decline from answering your question at this time, I will cover my read on Eden1892's filter and my response to your case in one post, when I finish. At this time, I don't know what my conclusion will be.

The main reason that I didn't want to vote Eden1892 before was that I expect him to come back before the deadline. And as town or scum, I don't think he will want to get lynched today. If I was out and my vote was stuck on him, that would be less than ideal.

On February 02 2015 04:02 Trfel wrote:

Palmar doesn't seem to mind being lynched.

Eden1892 has put a lot more effort into this game than Palmar or Robik. You can't deny that. I just feel like if Eden1892 decided to return and play the game seriously, he could do stuff that would make him seem more towny. I am not convinced that Palmar and Robik could/would do the same.

On February 02 2015 04:12 Chezitwo wrote:

I find it weird that marv disagrees, yet his idea does not gain any traction. I am a potentially easy mislynch that no one will blame anyone for, yet no one pushes it through. If I weren't me I'd suspect me being mafia for it. Since I have unique information that this isn't the case, there are a few options;
1. Mafia is afraid of pushing me because I'm a wildcard.
2. The current leading wagons are also town.
3. Mafia has no thread presence/all current players discussing are town.

I'm not sure what to think.

On February 02 2015 04:33 Holyflare wrote:


Ummmmmmmm is that really a question?

Player hf says eden looked ok at cursory glance from responses in live play

Player ff says he's just sheeping sentiment

Player damd makes case

Player hf reads filter confirms things and votes eden

Profit?

On February 02 2015 04:33 Trfel wrote:
Here's my analysis of the Eden1892 case.

First, I will give Eden1892 a slight town lean for all of the not wanting to get killed on Night 1 stuff. It just seems like a really weird play as scum. He's already shown that he can play a fine scum game, so why would he do all this talk about playing badly to avoid getting killed Night 1 if he was scum? It's just adding an unnecessary risk. Another option is that he wants to be a bad scum so he dies and doesn't have to keep playing scum, but that isn't the impression that I get from his filter.

One thing to the contrary is that he stopped complaining about this in the Hammertime Mafia obs qt, which Artanis named Eden's Hammertime obs rant corner because he was upset about getting killed on night 1. Eden1892 didn't do much ranting about it then. Why would he rant now? I can definitely see it coming from a town!Eden1892, but it does seem a bit strange.

While he says that he is going to play poorly to not get killed on Night 1, he also shows signs of reading the thread and thinking about it. See his comment on Holyflare's joke case on Damdred, see his questioning of sicklucker on his "my meta says" comment.

The next major thing is his progression on his sicklucker read. He starts by questioning sicklucker's "my meta says" statement, which is a good pressure. Then he says that he is willing to vote sicklucker for not answering the question, and then says that sicklucker actually did answer it. I reread that section twice and I didn't see sicklucker's answer in between these posts (though I guess I could have missed it......). I'm assuming that Eden1892 realized that sicklucker actually did NOT answer this question, and that is why he was willing to follow Holyflare and vote sicklucker to help add pressure. Therefore, I can accept Eden1892's explanation, though the inconsistency that Holyflare brought up still has some merit.


This is a terrible post. His progression is "Did Damdred really just claim blue with zero votes" -> "Kill Damdred" -> "Never mind Damdred is blue".

Eden1892 also said that he isn't coming back for End of Day. He will get back just in time to see the lynch. So we aren't going to get any help there.

I guess I'm fine with voting Eden1892. The inconsistencies in his play can be explained, but there are more of them than I would like to see. And those aren't things that he is intentionally doing to not get killed on Night 1.

Really hoping that he is able to check on the thread and give some thoughts.

On January 31 2015 07:00 Eden1892 wrote:

Wat. Setup spec isn't role fishing bruh. I didn't think he was actually role fishing

On January 31 2015 07:21 Eden1892 wrote:

I have no idea why you think this makes sense, so I'm gonna shitpost with this hilarious Vine instead of responding.

On February 02 2015 04:45 Trfel wrote:

Hrmph. Seems like no one likes it.

What I don't understand is why everyone is picking my analysis, while I arrived at the same conclusion that they did?

On February 02 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, I think that we are both suffering from confirmation bias.

On February 02 2015 05:05 Eden1892 wrote:
HtS just vote me. It sucks that we lost the Rb but that's life

On February 02 2015 09:16 Eden1892 wrote:

pls. you were like an inconvenient pigeon shit on my old hoodie

damdred was a steaming pile of tyrannosaurus shit dumped on me at 90 mph by a rogue dump truck escaping jurassic park in my tux

On February 02 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:

^ couldn't agree more