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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2015 02:19 GMT
#3161
Also Toad when you said that people usually give bad reasons to call you town and defend when they are Mafia was that case for me when I meta'd you?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 10 2015 02:21 GMT
#3162
On March 10 2015 10:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So any tips for me as Mafia?

When you're playing mafia, look back at your past few games. See how much you post and try to post roughly that much. See how you tend to construct arguments and make posts. Because Damdred was right, you really didn't post much like your previous games at all. Also, if you're posting in QT, you should probably be posting in thread. You need to consider why you're bussing. Because bussing Sandroba was the wrong play. Like you should've been bussing me there. Like you really want to be thinking ahead and figure out what your win condition looks like in this specific game and then play in such a way that you can meet those conditions. I think in this game you were really just trying to not lose the game. My experience is that when mafia tends to play not to lose, they're more likely to just lose. Because they allow town to do whatever they and and don't prevent town from actually doing important shit.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 02:24:04
March 10 2015 02:23 GMT
#3163
On March 10 2015 11:21 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 10:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So any tips for me as Mafia?

When you're playing mafia, look back at your past few games. See how much you post and try to post roughly that much. See how you tend to construct arguments and make posts. Because Damdred was right, you really didn't post much like your previous games at all. Also, if you're posting in QT, you should probably be posting in thread. You need to consider why you're bussing. Because bussing Sandroba was the wrong play. Like you should've been bussing me there. Like you really want to be thinking ahead and figure out what your win condition looks like in this specific game and then play in such a way that you can meet those conditions. I think in this game you were really just trying to not lose the game. My experience is that when mafia tends to play not to lose, they're more likely to just lose. Because they allow town to do whatever they and and don't prevent town from actually doing important shit.

To be fair the majority of the town as Townreading you Day 2 so bussing you would be a bad idea for me. I did look at my past games but I just couldn't get enough motivation esp with being Nuked for part of Day 1 which really took a toll on me T_T
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2015 02:25 GMT
#3164
Also should we Mafia members post our baby seals for this game since this game is over?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 02:30 GMT
#3165
On March 10 2015 11:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 11:13 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 11:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 10 2015 11:02 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So any tips for me as Mafia?


Post way more. You fell off after D1. After Day 1 I was thinking you were not spewing like normal. AND I thought it was weird that when I was having a weird panic attack before the end of this last day, you responded to my scum on you with the most readable post I have ever seen from you.

I was going to do everything I could to kill Batsnacks or Fecal (and lost us the game) but I was going to nudge you a bit and see what happened. You fell off.

Day 2 it was Cell and I never played Cell before so I didn't know how much activity I needed. Day 3 the cop check killed the day way to early imo. Onegu shoulda of checked out what happens when you call your Cop check Mafia after that. Plus Day 2 Sanroba claimed cop check so it was kinda weird for me knowing he was Scum.


That!

When you are town, none of that would have mattered. You are constantly looking to solve the game. In your last few games if you were going to be gone for a little while you 95% of the time said soemthing like "I'll give my thoughts when I return!" and it's always with an explanation point.

I have a couple friends with Aspergers and Autism and such. They are all extremely CONSISTENT. You my friend are also extremely consistent with things like that give thoughts and return. Look at your posts this game. I only saw 1 or 2 with that. You had soooo many saying you'd be back later.

Kinda dumb, but it's true isn't it? It's exactly like how Eden figured out Rsoultin for not using emotes. Stupid but true. Tin Foil Hat.

I even had a prepared message to Chezinu talking about you. I was going to use how you "staple paperwork" and "produce a lot" but this time you are carefree with how you staple your reports. Chezinu never came back. Funny I was starting to think more about him. In his lists he had Chezinu (his character) as town but Kurumi as not town. I even started to refer to him as Kurumi instead of Chezinu.

Funny enough I got Autism myself lol.............. Ya I way to consistant as town to do the ! at the end of my I will be back posts lol.


I honestly think that if you go back to your newbie game where I raged at you, and counted the amount of posts per day you did there and then copy/paste "I'll give my thoughts when I get back!" exactly like you did in that game, I'll never see you as mafia. you will always be a cointoss. Until I get another tinfoil hat anyway.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 02:33 GMT
#3166
Anyways, just some random babbling thoughts:

I personally thought I had a pretty solid first cycle (particularly night 1). The problem was, I really did have 2 midterms last Thursday. So I get home ~6-7pm every night, then have a few hours to catch up/post, but I couldn't even do that Wednesday night because i had to study. Then I made a (albeit probably poor) decision to go out with friends Thursday after midterms were over and didn't get home until way too late to look at the thread and actually be able to get up for school the next day, so I put it off again. Somehow, in the middle of all of that, my TL tab got closed, and since I generally don't visit TL unless I'm playing mafia, I didn't think to check it friday, and so I didn't vote. All the good play in the world doesn't excuse leaving the thread for ~72 hours or whatever. Basically I threw away any real good-will I had for my day 1/night 1 play and put me on the back foot.

So, sorry to my teammates for that. It's pretty inexcusable. I was in a position to have a good game and I fucked it up.

[snip]

Bleh, I was going to write a bunch of stuff here about individual players, but it felt kinda sleezy only mentioning the players I was familiar with and leaving out a bunch of people, so I decided it was better not to.

I do have a question for Toad though: Why did you save Kita night1 instead of rayn? Not that I think it's a bad decision to save kita there, obviously, but I feel like rayn has a lot more...uh...thread control? than kita ever does. Kita is an excellent player, but not very often is he the driving factor behind a lynch. Rayn can and is that person.

Also @rayn: you scumread me last game and townread me this game. Boggling :O
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 02:33 GMT
#3167
Why did so many of you think I was a ninja?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 10 2015 02:34 GMT
#3168
On March 10 2015 11:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Toad when you said that people usually give bad reasons to call you town and defend when they are Mafia was that case for me when I meta'd you?

yeah I remembered that as something I considered slightly scummy but thought it's okay because you co-hosted that game and thus it's pretty likely for you to share some information like that. There's no way I would have pushed for you, my townread on you was quite massive otherwise on d1.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2015 02:34 GMT
#3169
On March 10 2015 11:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 11:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 10 2015 11:13 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 11:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 10 2015 11:02 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So any tips for me as Mafia?


Post way more. You fell off after D1. After Day 1 I was thinking you were not spewing like normal. AND I thought it was weird that when I was having a weird panic attack before the end of this last day, you responded to my scum on you with the most readable post I have ever seen from you.

I was going to do everything I could to kill Batsnacks or Fecal (and lost us the game) but I was going to nudge you a bit and see what happened. You fell off.

Day 2 it was Cell and I never played Cell before so I didn't know how much activity I needed. Day 3 the cop check killed the day way to early imo. Onegu shoulda of checked out what happens when you call your Cop check Mafia after that. Plus Day 2 Sanroba claimed cop check so it was kinda weird for me knowing he was Scum.


That!

When you are town, none of that would have mattered. You are constantly looking to solve the game. In your last few games if you were going to be gone for a little while you 95% of the time said soemthing like "I'll give my thoughts when I return!" and it's always with an explanation point.

I have a couple friends with Aspergers and Autism and such. They are all extremely CONSISTENT. You my friend are also extremely consistent with things like that give thoughts and return. Look at your posts this game. I only saw 1 or 2 with that. You had soooo many saying you'd be back later.

Kinda dumb, but it's true isn't it? It's exactly like how Eden figured out Rsoultin for not using emotes. Stupid but true. Tin Foil Hat.

I even had a prepared message to Chezinu talking about you. I was going to use how you "staple paperwork" and "produce a lot" but this time you are carefree with how you staple your reports. Chezinu never came back. Funny I was starting to think more about him. In his lists he had Chezinu (his character) as town but Kurumi as not town. I even started to refer to him as Kurumi instead of Chezinu.

Funny enough I got Autism myself lol.............. Ya I way to consistant as town to do the ! at the end of my I will be back posts lol.


I honestly think that if you go back to your newbie game where I raged at you, and counted the amount of posts per day you did there and then copy/paste "I'll give my thoughts when I get back!" exactly like you did in that game, I'll never see you as mafia. you will always be a cointoss. Until I get another tinfoil hat anyway.

No worries I will just bleed town when I'm town in future games if I don't just lynch me. Also weren't you suppose to ##Vote me Day 1 instantly because what happened in the Newbie game?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 02:36 GMT
#3170
On March 10 2015 11:33 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, just some random babbling thoughts:

I personally thought I had a pretty solid first cycle (particularly night 1). The problem was, I really did have 2 midterms last Thursday. So I get home ~6-7pm every night, then have a few hours to catch up/post, but I couldn't even do that Wednesday night because i had to study. Then I made a (albeit probably poor) decision to go out with friends Thursday after midterms were over and didn't get home until way too late to look at the thread and actually be able to get up for school the next day, so I put it off again. Somehow, in the middle of all of that, my TL tab got closed, and since I generally don't visit TL unless I'm playing mafia, I didn't think to check it friday, and so I didn't vote. All the good play in the world doesn't excuse leaving the thread for ~72 hours or whatever. Basically I threw away any real good-will I had for my day 1/night 1 play and put me on the back foot.

So, sorry to my teammates for that. It's pretty inexcusable. I was in a position to have a good game and I fucked it up.

[snip]

Bleh, I was going to write a bunch of stuff here about individual players, but it felt kinda sleezy only mentioning the players I was familiar with and leaving out a bunch of people, so I decided it was better not to.

I do have a question for Toad though: Why did you save Kita night1 instead of rayn? Not that I think it's a bad decision to save kita there, obviously, but I feel like rayn has a lot more...uh...thread control? than kita ever does. Kita is an excellent player, but not very often is he the driving factor behind a lynch. Rayn can and is that person.

Also @rayn: you scumread me last game and townread me this game. Boggling :O


You actually had a couple very good posts. I thought you were town. I was comparing you with Bats and fecal and eliminated you for being mafia. I mean Bats thought I was mafia with Mocsta AFTER mocsta flipped. Talk about not interested in the game. How do you not lynch a guy like that?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 10 2015 02:37 GMT
#3171
Glad that's over. I was hyped for the start of day 1 and then had so much trouble doing anything after. I think I got burned out. A shame, really, especially after I got doctor.

HTS is apologizing profusely for shooting me, but lmao don't worry about it. A large number of players think I'm a hard read, even in games I'm incredibly active in.
Retired.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2015 02:38 GMT
#3172
On March 10 2015 11:36 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 11:33 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, just some random babbling thoughts:

I personally thought I had a pretty solid first cycle (particularly night 1). The problem was, I really did have 2 midterms last Thursday. So I get home ~6-7pm every night, then have a few hours to catch up/post, but I couldn't even do that Wednesday night because i had to study. Then I made a (albeit probably poor) decision to go out with friends Thursday after midterms were over and didn't get home until way too late to look at the thread and actually be able to get up for school the next day, so I put it off again. Somehow, in the middle of all of that, my TL tab got closed, and since I generally don't visit TL unless I'm playing mafia, I didn't think to check it friday, and so I didn't vote. All the good play in the world doesn't excuse leaving the thread for ~72 hours or whatever. Basically I threw away any real good-will I had for my day 1/night 1 play and put me on the back foot.

So, sorry to my teammates for that. It's pretty inexcusable. I was in a position to have a good game and I fucked it up.

[snip]

Bleh, I was going to write a bunch of stuff here about individual players, but it felt kinda sleezy only mentioning the players I was familiar with and leaving out a bunch of people, so I decided it was better not to.

I do have a question for Toad though: Why did you save Kita night1 instead of rayn? Not that I think it's a bad decision to save kita there, obviously, but I feel like rayn has a lot more...uh...thread control? than kita ever does. Kita is an excellent player, but not very often is he the driving factor behind a lynch. Rayn can and is that person.

Also @rayn: you scumread me last game and townread me this game. Boggling :O


You actually had a couple very good posts. I thought you were town. I was comparing you with Bats and fecal and eliminated you for being mafia. I mean Bats thought I was mafia with Mocsta AFTER mocsta flipped. Talk about not interested in the game. How do you not lynch a guy like that?

We prob would lynch him had the game went on lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 02:41:02
March 10 2015 02:39 GMT
#3173
On March 10 2015 11:33 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, just some random babbling thoughts:

I personally thought I had a pretty solid first cycle (particularly night 1). The problem was, I really did have 2 midterms last Thursday. So I get home ~6-7pm every night, then have a few hours to catch up/post, but I couldn't even do that Wednesday night because i had to study. Then I made a (albeit probably poor) decision to go out with friends Thursday after midterms were over and didn't get home until way too late to look at the thread and actually be able to get up for school the next day, so I put it off again. Somehow, in the middle of all of that, my TL tab got closed, and since I generally don't visit TL unless I'm playing mafia, I didn't think to check it friday, and so I didn't vote. All the good play in the world doesn't excuse leaving the thread for ~72 hours or whatever. Basically I threw away any real good-will I had for my day 1/night 1 play and put me on the back foot.

So, sorry to my teammates for that. It's pretty inexcusable. I was in a position to have a good game and I fucked it up.

[snip]

Bleh, I was going to write a bunch of stuff here about individual players, but it felt kinda sleezy only mentioning the players I was familiar with and leaving out a bunch of people, so I decided it was better not to.

I do have a question for Toad though: Why did you save Kita night1 instead of rayn? Not that I think it's a bad decision to save kita there, obviously, but I feel like rayn has a lot more...uh...thread control? than kita ever does. Kita is an excellent player, but not very often is he the driving factor behind a lynch. Rayn can and is that person.

Also @rayn: you scumread me last game and townread me this game. Boggling :O


I explained that in the obs QT. Came down to me thinking that geript was town at that point. I was thinking about wether to protect Kita or rayn quite a lot actually but thought that there's no way geript actually got a vig and would claim it because if he got a vig power that'd confirm his as mafia. So I thought he fakeclaimed it as town.

Because I thought geript was town I thought mafia might be scared to shoot rayn in fear of wasting a KP on someone a crazy townie was shooting anyways and changed my protection to Kita thinking that mafia would shoot Kita+Toad n1 instead of Rayn+Toad (was pretty damn obvious that I'd get shot). I lucked out that you actually had 3 KP in the end I guess

Had I not townread geript I would have protected rayn 100% of the times.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 02:44 GMT
#3174
Ah, you just wifom'd yourself out of it. Okeys :D
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 02:44 GMT
#3175
On March 10 2015 11:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 11:36 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 11:33 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, just some random babbling thoughts:

I personally thought I had a pretty solid first cycle (particularly night 1). The problem was, I really did have 2 midterms last Thursday. So I get home ~6-7pm every night, then have a few hours to catch up/post, but I couldn't even do that Wednesday night because i had to study. Then I made a (albeit probably poor) decision to go out with friends Thursday after midterms were over and didn't get home until way too late to look at the thread and actually be able to get up for school the next day, so I put it off again. Somehow, in the middle of all of that, my TL tab got closed, and since I generally don't visit TL unless I'm playing mafia, I didn't think to check it friday, and so I didn't vote. All the good play in the world doesn't excuse leaving the thread for ~72 hours or whatever. Basically I threw away any real good-will I had for my day 1/night 1 play and put me on the back foot.

So, sorry to my teammates for that. It's pretty inexcusable. I was in a position to have a good game and I fucked it up.

[snip]

Bleh, I was going to write a bunch of stuff here about individual players, but it felt kinda sleezy only mentioning the players I was familiar with and leaving out a bunch of people, so I decided it was better not to.

I do have a question for Toad though: Why did you save Kita night1 instead of rayn? Not that I think it's a bad decision to save kita there, obviously, but I feel like rayn has a lot more...uh...thread control? than kita ever does. Kita is an excellent player, but not very often is he the driving factor behind a lynch. Rayn can and is that person.

Also @rayn: you scumread me last game and townread me this game. Boggling :O


You actually had a couple very good posts. I thought you were town. I was comparing you with Bats and fecal and eliminated you for being mafia. I mean Bats thought I was mafia with Mocsta AFTER mocsta flipped. Talk about not interested in the game. How do you not lynch a guy like that?

We prob would lynch him had the game went on lol.


Yeah, I was already pushing to kill him before the game ended. We would have lost then no matter about the modkills or what. Ugh. I'd never have cop checked him either. Gah.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 10 2015 02:53 GMT
#3176
(Artanis): you saved kita though
Erik: did I?
(Artanis): yup
Erik: fuck yes
(Artanis): they were shooting damdred first
(Artanis): then changed for kita
Erik: I fucking wanted to do that last second post
Erik: but fucked up
Erik: GOD DAMN IT
Erik: screwed up by 60 seconds for some reason
(Artanis): so the ninja shooting damdred made your save useful
Erik: why would they shoot damdred
Erik: wtf
Erik: so wait, who shot rayn
(Artanis): because damdred can suddenly start playing really really well
(Artanis): geript
Erik: ...
Erik: so geript is mafia?
(Artanis): yes
Erik: ...
(Artanis): that should've been obvious on account of him getting a vig shot
Erik: yeah
Erik: I did not think he got one
(Artanis): what are the odds the town spirit is going to give a vig shot to anyone on the first night
Erik: 0%
Erik: but I did not think he got one
(Artanis): ah
Erik: I fucked up big time
Erik: DAMN IT
Erik: that would be a 100% kill had I gotten that post in
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2015 02:56 GMT
#3177
On March 10 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Glad that's over. I was hyped for the start of day 1 and then had so much trouble doing anything after. I think I got burned out. A shame, really, especially after I got doctor.

HTS is apologizing profusely for shooting me, but lmao don't worry about it. A large number of players think I'm a hard read, even in games I'm incredibly active in.

We should start a support group.
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 02:59 GMT
#3178
On March 10 2015 11:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Glad that's over. I was hyped for the start of day 1 and then had so much trouble doing anything after. I think I got burned out. A shame, really, especially after I got doctor.

HTS is apologizing profusely for shooting me, but lmao don't worry about it. A large number of players think I'm a hard read, even in games I'm incredibly active in.

We should start a support group.


Man I was so convinced you were ninja. I felt you cared like Robik did, just keep town alive long enough to find the other ninja, and I figured the Rsoultin and Damdred shots felt YOLO. When I think of yolo I think you hahahaah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 10 2015 03:29 GMT
#3179
Oh and Onegu, that is actually how I read you as town fwiw.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2015 03:57 GMT
#3180
On March 10 2015 12:29 geript wrote:
Oh and Onegu, that is actually how I read you as town fwiw.



You mean the reads post on me you made?

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