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Damdred
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LightningStrike
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GlowingBear
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Damdred
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Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
LoneMeow seems very strange to me. At first I liked his questioning, and I still do, but all he has done is pick on people for small things. The one read he provided was at the request of GlowingBear. I know that LoneMeow is a very good player, and provides a lot of content without using a large number of posts, so I will wait for now.... but I am a bit suspicious. I generally like the way that Damdred and GlowingBear have been playing so far. Their analysis shows that they are reading the thread and trying to scumhunt, as well as generating discussion. I did notice that GlowingBear provided a lot of comments on posts in the thread, and I liked those. However, he also provided overall reads, but didn't show why he made those reads (they also didn't necessarily align with the comments he provided). The recent vote on Breshke is a continuation of this. However, I'm sure either of them could play a very capable scum game as well. Not a good Day 1 lynch. DarthPunk is coming up null. I have been waiting for more posts from him to provide more thoughts, but since he hasn't posted in a while, I will share my thoughts now. I do like that he picked up on LightingStrike's weird play at the start of the game. That was the same feeling that I got. However, he hasn't done very much at all except for saying that my opening made it seem that I am town. My opening doesn't really say anything about my alignment for reasons previously stated by geript, however the way I followed it up is more important (more on this later). For the record, several of you seem to be familiar with DarthPunk's playstyle, and I am completely unfamiliar with it, so that doesn't help. Geript's first post seemed a bit towny, and his second post seemed a bit scummy (it seemed like a poor use of a post when you are limiting yourself to ten). That's one fewer post to use to push a lynch later. Overall, geript seems fine for now, and is probably a poor Day 1 lynch. Rsoultin and jarjar, you two need to talk so that jarjar feels comfortable with Day 1. That aside, while jarjar's opening post is pretty horrible, he has given some useful thoughts since then. As for rsoultin, I feel that her play lines up exactly with (my knowledge of) her town meta. I also liked the questioning that she used with regards to my opening. Still, I take note that jarjar said that she is capable of doing this as either alignment. One thing I did find really strange is that rsoultin provided her thoughts using a Damdred quote. I have no idea why she would do this except to compare opinions, but she didn't provide any thoughts on Damdred (I know their thoughts on other players were side by side, but still), and it gave the impression that her reads were less independent. I do need to clarify that based on how last game (Newbie Mafia) went and my postgame discussions with GlowingBear, I have been trying a slightly different playstyle this game. My opening attempted to generate discussion, and a relatively large number of posts were made about it (the quality of the discussion it generated is more questionable, so perhaps it didn't work out as I intended). The reason I pushed that (false) viewpoint was because I wanted to get as much discussion from it as possible, which I believe I did. As for providing less content per post than in previous games, this is a conscious change I made after seeing how last game went. Brief summary of my play in last game: there wasn't much discussion on the first day, and I was busy, so I didn't share many thoughts or put in the effort that I wanted, and then I died. My death provided absolutely nothing for town to work with, since I hadn't shared any thoughts as they were not anywhere near conclusive. This game I am trying to share my thoughts more frequently to prevent something like that from happening again. The downside is that my posts will not contain as much quality content as I would like, but I believe that I have provided enough content. Everything I say is there for a reason (in the case of the coolTLname paragraph, the reason is because I don't want to delete it; not always the best reason, but whatever). With that in mind, I will answer geript's question. On January 17 2015 16:37 geript wrote: 3. @Trfel. Which, if any, of my reads do you disagree with and why? Additionally, are there any players or points that you think I've noticeably missed in my analysis? I (obviously) disagree with your read on me. I was intentionally being stubborn to argue with rsoultin and generate discussion, which (as I already stated) I think I was somewhat successful in. I was not so sure about your townread on LightningStrike at the time you made the post in question, but given some rereading and his posting since then, it seems reasonable. Rsoultin's play does seem towny so far, but he hasn't done anything that I couldn't see him doing as scum. I don't think that jarjar is a good lynch, however the reasons for that are mostly due to posts he made after you posted the read. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Are you scum with no scum reads and not knowing how to go about it? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 18 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote: Trfel, that's a whole lot of words for saying you have a couple of town reads rest null reads but you don't seem to have any scum reads? unless I overlooked it. Are you scum with no scum reads and not knowing how to go about it? Sorry, you're right, that wasn't clear enough. I try to play with really high standards for scumreading someone. I stated this in my last game if you need me to dig up that quote. I am most suspicious of LoneMeow and a bit suspicious of DarthPunk. At the moment, my lynch list would probably be LoneMeow, then The Shining, then Breshke, then DarthPunk. However, I'm not going to worry about (potentially) policy lynching until the deadline is much closer. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
And then when we drop to your next uspicion it isn't even the person you then pointed to (dp) it is instead two lurkers? Also sure that's true about that previous post...but what about how you came flying out of the blue in the last student tmafia against bats with a huge case, even in the past newbie game you were halfway inactive and you still had pretty strong scum reads 24-36 hours into the game? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On January 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote: So basically if LM comes back and does stuff you might rescend that scum read/suspicion. And then when we drop to your next uspicion it isn't even the person you then pointed to (dp) it is instead two lurkers? Also sure that's true about that previous post...but what about how you came flying out of the blue in the last student tmafia against bats with a huge case, even in the past newbie game you were halfway inactive and you still had pretty strong scum reads 24-36 hours into the game? Just remember he was coached by me last game. Just please have this in mind. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote: So basically if LM comes back and does stuff you might rescend that scum read/suspicion. And then when we drop to your next uspicion it isn't even the person you then pointed to (dp) it is instead two lurkers? Also sure that's true about that previous post...but what about how you came flying out of the blue in the last student tmafia against bats with a huge case, even in the past newbie game you were halfway inactive and you still had pretty strong scum reads 24-36 hours into the game? Um.... I had absolutely no scumreads in the newbie game. Having both of my scumreads be wrong in Student Mafia IV caused me to re-evaluate the amount of evidence I need to scumread someone. Since then, I've never been wrong (1/1). However, the downside is that I don't come up with a confident scumread every day, as demonstrated by Newbie Mafia. That doesn't mean I won't try for the best lynch, but just that I am not 100% confident in it. So no, about halfway through Day 1 I do not have any confident scumreads. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On January 18 2015 06:44 GlowingBear wrote: Just remember he was coached by me last game. Just please have this in mind. god help us | ||
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GlowingBear
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GlowingBear
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HAHAHAHA I'll lynch you for this. | ||
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GlowingBear
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ATTENTION LURKERS IMMA GONNA GET YOU!! | ||
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TheWarWaffle
Canada115 Posts
Not enough information: Breshke, LoneMeow, and The Shining have not posted enough to determine alignment as of my current read-through. Anyone who suggests otherwise is denying that they are policy lynches... Something not recommended for day 1. Town leaning: rsoultin, jarjarbinks, geript, DarthPunk, and Damdred. These people have either asked questions that needed to be asked, acted similarly to other games where they were town, or have otherwise contributed to the discussion without posting a dead-end theory. Special: LightningStrike. No idea. Not even going to bother. | ||
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GlowingBear
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 18 2015 07:27 GlowingBear wrote: War Waffle probably town Why do you say this? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
He is going against two vocal players, which is kinda a suicidal move for mafia to do. The only motive he has to do this is if his partners are in danger and he wants to push a mislynch. Which I doubt is the case. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 18 2015 07:53 GlowingBear wrote: He is going against two vocal players, which is kinda a suicidal move for mafia to do. The only motive he has to do this is if his partners are in danger and he wants to push a mislynch. Which I doubt is the case. I suppose I can see this. At the same time, WarWaffle seemed to provide many more reads in the previous game. I know this game hasn't been going for as long yet, but there has been more posting here. And last game he had lots of time issues as well (I know he said he had some in this game, I think, but they should be less than last game). | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On January 18 2015 07:57 Trfel wrote: I suppose I can see this. At the same time, WarWaffle seemed to provide many more reads in the previous game. I know this game hasn't been going for as long yet, but there has been more posting here. And last game he had lots of time issues as well (I know he said he had some in this game, I think, but they should be less than last game). It means that the attempts of having discussion going on were successful. | ||
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