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On January 12 2015 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
SL is actually a claimed role but you somehow still don't have a read on him.
You've ignored the entirety of the lian/me interaction in favor of saying "I'm just complaining about thread atmosphere."
You've listed me in a scumteam with lian when it's obvious that we can't be a team.
Your proposed team (if you can even call it that, since you have a team made up of half the game) doesn't make any sense and you're open to way too many lynches at once.
what? I called scum on half the game? can you point out where I called scum on half the game? If I'm not mistaken, I have 3 scumreads. Meanwhile, I just have doubts about the rest, because there's questionable content in everyone's filter.
The only people who cant be a scum team is VA and anyone. Don't tell me scum cannot fake a fight. I'm not saying you're complaining about atmosphere in your interaction with liancourt. It comes more from this:
On January 09 2015 16:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to assume that both lian and batsnacks are both mafia from this point on since the two of them are making the thread toxic and making the game unplayable for no reason whatsoever.
I can only see this mindset coming from mafia and I refuse to believe these two people are actually this shitty for real.
I'm ignoring the interaction you had with lian because i cant be arsed to force myself to read that fight. Thanks to lian.
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On January 12 2015 05:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 05:30 lalalipop wrote:On January 12 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Here's why: you have way too many unexplained scumreads and it looks like you're ignoring parts of peoples filters rather than trying to grasp the whole picture. I have 3 scumreads... way too many? I also never included anything from first half of d1. I was under the impression that you had Oats/Breshke as possible lynches. Am I mistaken?
definitely mistaken. Bothered to read the Conclusion that I even color coded for you?
I just don't have great feelings about breshke, while I'm asking everyone who oats is never considered. Done. Not my scumreads.
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On January 12 2015 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Here's why: you have way too many unexplained scumreads and it looks like you're ignoring parts of peoples filters rather than trying to grasp the whole picture. They're not actually unexplained: just badly explained. Either way, I don't like them.
Read their filter for the explanation, if you don't think liancourt is scumm for his d1 end/d2 filter, I'll go eat a sock
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Why did you go from
lian is not mafia in any case -> lian and bats are mafia for toxicity -> DrP needs to be lynched for lurking
? This is the only reason I'm scumreading you. You had a fight with lian, where you state that lian can't be mafia in any case because you sort of understand his case. However, you just decide to thinl that bat/lian are mafia for posting 1 post each in between your 'lian is not mafia' and 'lian/bat is mafia' posts. This is something I don't understand. Are you gloating them to play better? Or are you done with lian's toxicity despite being fine with it, calling him not mafia?
If you're really not happy with lian, why aren't you pushing him, but pushing DrP now for lurking? Isn't it a better choice to go for lian since you think he is mafia for playing badly/toxicitiy? Or do you think he can't be mafia after all?
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SL is actually a claimed role but you somehow still don't have a read on him.
I'm not hunting for pr, why should I care what role SL claims? (he explicitly claimed it, but I don't buy that)
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On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.
I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.
you need to provide a conclusion. If you have a gun over liancourt's head, are you going to shoot or drop the gun?
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On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town.
I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb.
In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr.
pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo".
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On January 12 2015 06:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 06:10 lalalipop wrote:On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town. I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb. In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr. pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo". So what? Do you think he's going to intentionally make his own life harder by claiming a role for no reason as mafia or what?
More like he have intentionally made his life easier since nobody cares if he is in the thread anymore. He is a claimed pr. Claiming because his pr is 'useless'. He also talked about how he claimed just to waste mafia shots/abilities. Both town and scum can claim here.
I have been assuming that there was 3 scum since its standard for 12-14 player mafia games. What if there were 4 mafia? He could have claimed for giggles since the game was boring anyway.
In any case, if he lives for very long, will you start to suspect him?
if your answer is no, then this claim is not suboptimal.
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but then again, I'm not thinking hard now. Tired from work.
Will see if I gain a new perspective later on.
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I'm more on board for a lian lynch.
obi, if you will shoot him, you're going to lynch him. Its the same thing.
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On January 12 2015 06:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 06:17 lalalipop wrote:On January 12 2015 06:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 12 2015 06:10 lalalipop wrote:On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town. I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb. In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr. pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo". So what? Do you think he's going to intentionally make his own life harder by claiming a role for no reason as mafia or what? More like he have intentionally made his life easier since nobody cares if he is in the thread anymore. He is a claimed pr. Claiming because his pr is 'useless'. He also talked about how he claimed just to waste mafia shots/abilities. Both town and scum can claim here. If nobody cares in the thread anymore then what's the point of him claiming a role as mafia? Show nested quote +I have been assuming that there was 3 scum since its standard for 12-14 player mafia games. What if there were 4 mafia? He could have claimed for giggles since the game was boring anyway. I don't see how this means anything. Duh. This is the exact reason we are telling you his claim is bad. It makes absolutely no sense to claim there as scum in order to get his lynch of choice, especially since it means he lives forever and will eventually be suspected due to not dying as a claimed role.
I don't think the objective of his claim was to get a lynch of his choice. Rather, it was to avoid being lynched. Claiming a useless role so that its still possible for him to stay alive since shooting a useless blue = shooting random townie, while he don't have to scream "roleblocked!!!" for the rest of the game.
If he was town, he is helping mafia since mafia will let him stay alive and let us kill him for them.
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On January 12 2015 06:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 06:25 lalalipop wrote:On January 12 2015 06:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 12 2015 06:17 lalalipop wrote:On January 12 2015 06:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 12 2015 06:10 lalalipop wrote:On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town. I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb. In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr. pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo". So what? Do you think he's going to intentionally make his own life harder by claiming a role for no reason as mafia or what? More like he have intentionally made his life easier since nobody cares if he is in the thread anymore. He is a claimed pr. Claiming because his pr is 'useless'. He also talked about how he claimed just to waste mafia shots/abilities. Both town and scum can claim here. If nobody cares in the thread anymore then what's the point of him claiming a role as mafia? I have been assuming that there was 3 scum since its standard for 12-14 player mafia games. What if there were 4 mafia? He could have claimed for giggles since the game was boring anyway. I don't see how this means anything. In any case, if he lives for very long, will you start to suspect him? Duh. This is the exact reason we are telling you his claim is bad. It makes absolutely no sense to claim there as scum in order to get his lynch of choice, especially since it means he lives forever and will eventually be suspected due to not dying as a claimed role. I don't think the objective of his claim was to get a lynch of his choice. Rather, it was to avoid being lynched. Claiming a useless role so that its still possible for him to stay alive since shooting a useless blue = shooting random townie, while he don't have to scream "roleblocked!!!" for the rest of the game. If he was town, he is helping mafia since mafia will let him stay alive and let us kill him for them. Nobody was lynching him. Your read doesn't make any sense.
the tunnels on him were pretty real though
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*cough* high level breshke tunnels *cough*
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On January 12 2015 06:36 batsnacks wrote:
Let's vote LS.
lol really?
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On January 12 2015 06:37 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 06:37 lalalipop wrote:On January 12 2015 06:36 batsnacks wrote:
Let's vote LS. lol really? Yeah Go vote him
why would i? Liancourt is definitely a better choice imo (even though I had lots of trouble placing LS anywhere on my list)
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On January 12 2015 06:39 mderg wrote:
How about you guys vote oats. Or maybe make some shenannies on lian happen.
I don't know how to read oats. Are you sure about oats?
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alright.
Im voting oats because I don't like being lynched as town, especially my first game in TL.
Also, dince mderg thinks its a better lynch than lian/LS
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On January 12 2015 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really see what the case is on Oats.
I'm not entirely sure why people are voting him.
what's the case on me then?
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On January 12 2015 06:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 06:56 lalalipop wrote:On January 12 2015 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really see what the case is on Oats.
I'm not entirely sure why people are voting him. what's the case on me then? Your reads don't make sense and you have too many people as questionable for shoddy reasons.
then go ahead and show me why they arent as questionable as i imagined.
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whatever. 2 towns would have died if i was lynched anyway .
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EPT
