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Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. | ||
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dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point. | ||
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I don't really think I have enough of a read on the others for anything atm | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: A bandwagon. I'm nearly 100% convinced that you're mafia. I encourage everyone to vote for you and will spend as much time as I need to convince them and to force you to keep defending yourself over and over again. You don't have to reply to me if you think it's a waste of time. I might not succeed if you just ignore me. Put your money where your mouth is and vote, or do you like to just spew fluff left and right? | ||
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Anybody else have opinions on dr.H? | ||
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On December 31 2014 18:07 batsnacks wrote: ##vote: geript Real? and why? | ||
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I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive. I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him. ##Vote: Lazermonkey | ||
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By entrance I meant more like the first few posts of the game. Ionno, it just felt very similar to the other time I played with him in which he was town. I don't think any of the posts on geript hold any real substance (unless I scimmed through an important one too quickly) and are kinda more like peoples soft reads on him. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:02 Damdred wrote: Could you one talk more about lazer deserves your vote over someone say Robik who is typically a ton more posty as town. We have posted a ton of stuff on geript what is your thoughts about it? Why are you taking this stance without even attacking kels case or any of the other things people have posted? And finally the bolded how was his entrance better....he claimed town by first post that seems such a weird thing to incluce My last post was in response to the fyi | ||
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On January 01 2015 01:39 Lazermonkey wrote: Outside of Robik and Chyz, not too much. geript I'm a bit torn on. Initially, I thought he was a bit scummy (waiting for Palmar, Marv etc) but he has been active and was one of the players that really got the discussion going. This is making me like him somewhat, as scum there is no reason to be that active in the start of the game really. Slight town read on him. I think sicklurker posted some relevant things at the start of the game. Not much though, but a slight town read this far. On January 01 2015 02:05 Lazermonkey wrote: Yhea, but my suspcion against Chyz was not based on the fact that he didn't post about the main protagonists in the game (in fact, he did). But rather that he didn't give any read of his own. I have given my thoughts about a few people but not the three he mentioned I guess. Problem is that the other reads you have made is based on the fact that you dont have much (as I have bolded) and as such they are not good enough reads. You should have some more reads than me and robik. Let's hear some scum hunting and not 24/7 bandwagoning. | ||
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So sorry if you feel like I'm scum for trying to lead the charge and sucking at it? LOL PS. dr.H, do I get a to write your sig if you lynch me then? | ||
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Even you dr.H, I may be hypocritical to you about lazer, but don't you agree? Or are you just tunneling and trying to prove how wrong you are at the end? | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica I think it was fairly obvious this wasn't a serious read... And I was really tired and a bit annoyed so wanted to let off a bit of steam. | ||
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And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. | ||
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I'll be catching up on the thread for the next few minutes. | ||
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On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi again. I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can. As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch! LOL WHAT? (about bolded part) If you can show me any proof that you "tunneled on me" I'm more than happy to hear it, but are you being sorry for trying to get a read on me? Only person that can say they tunneled on me is dr.H. It seems like your trying to just back up because your getting some flame and to save yourself. And the second paragraph is like UGH. just gives me the creeps. Later on you go on to say that your cool with killing geript and such and one of your main reasons is that "he wants to wait for vets". Like thats not allignment indicative at all. You can take that to mean shit all, especially since it was near the start of the game. When artanis clears up why koshi is towny then he just drops his case. It's like hes just jumping from wagon to wagon and giving soft reads and dropping them asap. Super wishy washy. Even tho I don't like geript atm it is more based on the fact that I have seen nothing similar to either his town game when I played with him and also in the game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467155-devils-riddle-mafia?user=geript&page=2 where you can see that he is scum hunting. But this game he isn't and while that is cause for some alarm I think laser is much more scummy than geript atm. Although I don't at all like his top scum reads (especially since I think keslier is really towny). I'd be fine with a geript or laser lynch but I feel that laser > geript. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: His failure to move on from the joke about a policy lynch ir whatever said to me disinterested and bad townie. Scumteam if they weren't totally stupid would tell him not to bring that up again considering he got heat from it before. He's a player I would put in the DT pile, i get stuck in the wifom But don't you find his large post just weird. Not even just the stuff he says inside of it but the format of it. Like he was in no need to give a read on every single person. I just find that pointless because not scum hunting and looks more defensive. Other than being scum and thinking you have heat and just throwing every read you have to try to appease people that your doing something or if you are town and know your going to die to give the rest of town your current reads I see no reason to do that. Therefore he falls into the scummy category, does he not? I just find no reason to talk about everybody instead of only the few which he has a good read/focus on. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're confirmed scum, no reason to have a conversation unless you would like to explain your various lies. You're breaking even further away from your town meta. Why are you buddying up to me to get approval on your read, just post your case and quote mine like i know you're capable of. You dont wanna put in effort for cases you know are crap, your mentality is changed a lot I think all of your cases are just shit meh cases that your trying to grasp a hold onto anything and make it be like. Oh he said this thing which I have nothing to say but it came at a WRONG TIME that seems opportunistic. Also almost all of your scum reads and town reads a few hours ago where mostly. "good things about chyz said" = scum, "bad things about chyz said" = town. THis game has been so unpleasant with you which is mostly why I'm ignore your shit posts on me. I really hope scum kills me night 1 so that can shut you up tbh. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote: There is no way scum ever kills you. I know. Kinda sad cause this game making me depressed. Ritoky is not as high on my scum list as laser and geript are so I wouldn't lynch them. Nobody likes my case on laser i guess cause nobody has really said shit on him. I really don't feel like pushing it atm cause of mood. Maybe lynch me is best. Useless to town according to dr.H and want him to shut the F up. | ||
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Anyways I still think we should lynch laser over geript. If anything we can just have geript lynched day 2 if he still continues to play the way he is, but it really seems like it is more out of not being too invested in the game. I still think geript is scummy but not as much as laser. On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz On January 01 2015 01:19 Lazermonkey wrote: The reason I asked if you knew his meta was because you dismissed my by implying that unless you generally act as a townleader, stuff like this isn't scummy. I disagree. Saying to two people that they should stop arguing over stupid shit is protown. But it is very non-commital. Its okay to do stuff like that as long as you are pushing scum as well. But Chyz wasn't hunting scum, not untill people called him out for not hunting scum. It does not matter if he scumhunted after he was called out. If you are town and get called out for that, you scum hunt because it helps town. If you are scum, you scum hunt to avoid suspicion. The fact that he started scum hunt after he got called out for it IS not alignment indicative. I feel what is relevant here is what his motive was. Its clear that he was reading the thread, its clear that he wrote a post, its clear that he didn't care to post any reads untill he got called out for it. What alignment does these action make sense from? So first he says it is scum mentality for doing all of this and then proceeds to say that what I did is NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE and that the real problem is my motive? Unless you know what my motive is that is a HUGE jump to conclusions off of my first post. During this time in the thread people liked jumping on me and as such laser seems to be trying to find different angles to attack me from. More on this jumping onto the hype train later on. On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. So this is super wishy washy to me. Not really attacking anybody or defending anybody (which is ok) but literally it sounds like im just reading a synopsis of what happened in the thread. Seems like someone not having reads but making some in order to look pro town (yes u can say im hypocrite, but I think i have given a few okish cases, kk?). On January 01 2015 03:23 Lazermonkey wrote: Well, if your argument is "you should be able to pick a more clear stance" I cannot argue against it. I don't feel like making up a read on any of them just to please you. Also, my read on Eden is not a scum read. He is null. Hmm, seems contradictory to a something a few posts ago. Really looks like trying not to give a real read and offer little to the town. On January 01 2015 03:57 Lazermonkey wrote: I dislike Koshi this far. Not only does his reads seem pretty off but he doesn't push geript one single bit, despite the fact that he is voting greipt. If you are town and think someone is scum but noone else is voting that person, you push that person. Koshi is not doing that. I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow. Same complaint that people use on me can be applied here. Says something, but has no point other than having something to make it seem like he is contributing to town. On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi again. I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can. As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch! Like i've said before, this is reading super "I'm sorry for doing what I did yesterday, forget about it and I will be town today. Lets lynch scum. GO TEAM GO". BLEH, try to hide more? On January 02 2015 01:06 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm posting my thoughts as I go. I said yesterday that I dislike Koshi. After looking at his filter, I still think he looks bad. He didn't post much since yesterday evening so most of this is simply rehashing. 1. (Palmar was already touching on this but I think its a strong point which is worth repeating) Koshi was very very eager to defend Chyz in the early game. I'm not making any preflip associations here, but just by looking at his filter you can see how much time he spends on defending Chyz. This makes it looks like he is making alot of contributions (which in a sense he is) but he is in no way doing alot of scum hunting. Why is it that Koshi felt the ned to defend Chyz so hard in the first half of D1? 2. Not pushing geript despite voting him. 3. Afraid to actually call people scum. Instead saying things like "Your excuses come over scummy". Why not say YOU look scummy? Trying to set up a vote if possible, yet not pushing the lynch or having me against him as much as he could have. So this is pretty interesting. Seems like he is trying to push koshi a little but still not commiting. I don't have anything to add other than laser described himself perfectly in his 3rd point about koshi. Next immediately he forgets about koshi and goes onto geript. The only time before that he talked about geript is that he is slightly towny to him. So from going to leaning towny to super fine with lynching is a pretty big jump and his points he brings up don't merit that much of a jump. So what happened is koshi stuff died off a bit and then geript train was just starting. This would be a great vote for him if geript gets lynched because he was one of the first few but not the lynch starter so it seems like hes just trying to put himself in a good position if geript gets lynched. On January 02 2015 02:04 Lazermonkey wrote: As for rikoty, I think he is mildly suspicious but not lynch worthy. He didn't really do anything but tunnel DH yesterday for a pretty retarded reason. By doing this, he essentially avoided talking about most other things. Making a massive list of all his reads is not bad, but with no follow up this isn't really helping us in any way. I think he could be a potential candidate for lynch D2 though. "I looked at him, not lynch worthy, but lynch tmrw is ok". Seems like he is trying to give rikoty a free pass to live another day...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also following the general town wagon because rikoty not doing so hot so this gets him + town points. On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for. Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today. ##Unvote ##Vote: geript So he drops his accusation on me (remember, at this point only dr.H was on my ass, everybody was mostly like, meh about me). Again super bandwagony. And up to this point his only real reads that I have seen that aren't rehashed stuff is a little on koshi (which also applies to him) so basically garbage. On January 02 2015 03:02 Lazermonkey wrote: o.O really? I've never played with scum marv. I guess that makes your argument more valid. Still, do you think he is the BEST lynch for today? So from going from, "I'm not lynching till day 2 cause marv is a strong player and I don't have a read on him or is playing bad" into, "well people are talking about marv, might aswell seem interested now". And finally after getting his points for being suspicious of marv he goes back to saying that geript is the best lynch so far. Again this is all unoriginal and is just following w/e the thread seems to be heading towards. I have not seen him give a good reason why he thinks geript is scummy and he just follows the threads flow. Not doing any scum hunting and when does they are pretty weak cases. Always seems to agree with the general tone of the thread and never has anything useful to add. Just lurking on through while still pretending to be "active". Overall I think he is a better lynch the geript and I think people should at least look more indepth on him. Also I have a feeling the ritoky and him are buddied scum. Sorry for long post, I know how you guys hate it but I really think laser is the best lynch today. | ||
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koshi - too good at defending me and making no other good reads. hasnt really contributed anything to town. scummy glowingbear - nada, not good sign geript - null to scum. Started fine but I expected more. Not leading town like I remember. Kinda just lurking but still in thread. Still nothing really. Expected more and his scum read on keslier is wtf? Scummy Artanis[XP] - somegood reads, some terrible ones. still making them and pushing them alright imo. towny. lazermonkey - bandwagoned onto me. made garbage about other people. need actual reads and not garbage at this point in the game. Tries to apologize, every post he makes makes him seem worse and worse. Tries to cover up his tracks. scummy marvellositty - apparently this great player but nada? something doesn't feel right. but terrible start can be excuse? slightly scummy justanothertownie - bothers me with some posts but I can kinda feel his train of thought. leaning townny Iamrobik - doesn't do anything but still in thread? weird. lazy. scummy theChyz - SUPER TOWN palmar - Keeps thread in good direction. If anything only look at day 3 since anything helping town (even if in wrong direction) is not worth a thought of lynching. town damdred - nothing jumps out, feels way too much of doing nothing for my taste, null to slightly scummy batsnacks - kinda weird play. posts sometimes good info, and then shit later. null sicklucker - I don't really like any of his reads hes making and they all seem kinda out in left field. scummy-ish vivax - don't like atm, not enough but just his posts are pretty off. scummy but weak at best kelsierSC - seems to be steering the town whenever he talks, pretty clear train of thought. slightly town. I like him more now, just seems to keep towny vibe. town ritoky - garbage opener, nothing since. garbage large post for no reason and terrible reads. scum Dr.H - rode me hard but kinda like how I did when town. Town. Big d bag tho. Eden1892 - nothing really sticks out too much, need to read closer, null. Also kinda just lurking around but does bring up good points every so ofter, towny. RebirthOfLegend - nada, not good sign Superbia - nada, not good sign scum list if I had to pick: -lazermonkey -ritoky -geript -koshi -a lurker/sicklucker/damdred ##Vote: TheChyz | ||
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