Imperial Mafia

On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote:
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest?

On January 01 2015 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

???
Is Marv 100% mafia or not?

Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry.

That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons?

On January 01 2015 00:53 Koshi wrote:

Show me a game in which Chyz is a townleader.

On January 01 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote:


2 people were doing something that nobody so far found useful for 20 posts in a row.
1 guy said to those 2 people to stop their shitposting and asks on of them to do something useful in 1 post.

The 1 guy gets crap for doing not more pro-towns things in his 1 post and the 2 people who made 20 shitpost together are not discussed.

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I don't get it. Is it meta? Scum generally do exactly 1 protown thing in their post?

I get that TheChyz could have also done more digging himself, create more content, actively question people and look for scum. But unless he has a meta for doing those things, I am already content with him doing the 1 thing. It's more than others.

And like you said, he did scumhunting after that. It doesn't matter that people had to ask him for it. It is important that he did it, and I don't see you commenting on the value of those posts. You just say: "He did scumhunting because he was asked for it, so it doesn't count".

On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game?

On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote:
so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to?

On January 01 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote:


Hes asking you if you have thoughts on the three people who are getting a good bit of discussion going atm, if one person is scummy for not being able t do this are you scum.

On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

On January 01 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote:
like as it stands I'd lynch Lazer over Chyz any day of the week.

And I might lynch any uber-lurker before either of them.

On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

On January 01 2015 03:36 sicklucker wrote:


Like this is so true and why I voted him. In carol he claimed a present just to claim one which was a huge reason as to how I figured out his alignment and his mafia team. It was stupid then and hes being pretty stupid now

On January 02 2015 00:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Shit man I'm all by myself with no one to talk to. Plus I cant quote or make a proper case on my phone.

On January 02 2015 01:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't want to lynch Koshi because his attack on Geript when questioned was instantaneous, to the point yet elaborate.


He hadn't really elaborated yet why he suspected Geript, but when questioned he instantly had a story without having to think about it.

On January 02 2015 01:32 Damdred wrote:
@Lazer, how do you get from disliking Koshi pretty hardcore and seemily on the verge of scum reading him and then with just two posts from artanis you say that you don't want to vote him as much today? Then right before you say you don't want to lynch geript?

Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable

On January 02 2015 01:38 Damdred wrote:


Explain why what art posted was able to change your mind so much?

On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:

Elaborate.

On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:

If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1.

On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
You didn't even give a read on marv.

On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:

I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town.

On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:

Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game?

On January 02 2015 02:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


Look how softly he goes after anyone he is suspicious of. Always wanna seek town approval first. Doesn't mind voting or acting with confidence when he's playing defensive though. Never really follows up on anything he says and is accusing people of things they either aren't really doing or that he is even more guilty of. Considering this behavior and presentation is all significantly different in tone from his previous game as town I don't need a whole lot more. If you read his filter closely he makes geript look much worse too.

On January 02 2015 03:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
You're wrong. There's no way he changed that much for the worse. The simpler explanation is better. Also this weird thing where geript and chyz talk about each other a lot in their own posts but never reply to each other directly is my #1 scumteam flag

On January 02 2015 03:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Anything else? What about his soft reads? What about his seeking of town approval? What about his criticizing of everyone else for not having enough reads or not doing any scum hunting when he doesn't push his own reads or have confidence in them. Twice he has accused people suspicious of him (who backed it up with votes and several posts of pressure and explanation) of having softreads and being wishy washy/parroting/whatever. It all comes together as just total scummy bullshit, this is getting really really frustrating for me.

On January 02 2015 03:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
and tells everyone else how to play, that they're not putting in enough effort scumhunting from day 1 with a "hey guys im so pro town " cred fishing post. this is classic newb mafia play. this is not what happens after a player has a good and confident town game, even if they are mislynched. this is wrong.

I will get behind a geript vote if I have to though. Notice how they use each other in their posts but never actually engage with each other

On January 02 2015 06:35 batsnacks wrote:
Hey I'm phone posting

But I want to do town a favor and take the plunge first. I'll be happy to vote either lazor or robik today. I want to vote lazor because his dialogue with Damdred that I quoted was extremely defensive over such a small question. And that post where he voted geript. He spent a huge paragraph explaining why he's not voting chyz just to be super justified and then sheeped. Looked really scummy to me.

##vote: lazormonkey

On January 02 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote:
I'm sold, DrH. The 8 hours ago he seemed fine" part was enough for me.

##Vote TheChyz

On January 02 2015 08:47 justanothertownie wrote:

Because you are always going with thread sentiment and gave really unimpressing reads earlier. Like when you singled out Robik who hadn't done anyhting as a scumread.

On January 02 2015 08:48 Vivax wrote:


Lazer this is the post in question, not your response to Damdred.
Can you explain why you think TheChyz is a passable lynch for you after asking DrH to point out what his scum motivation is? If you can't see it for yourself why would you lynch him?

On January 02 2015 08:48 Vivax wrote:


Lazer this is the post in question, not your response to Damdred.
Can you explain why you think TheChyz is a passable lynch for you after asking DrH to point out what his scum motivation is? If you can't see it for yourself why would you lynch him?

On January 02 2015 09:14 Vivax wrote:


I didn't ignore an argument, I simply found it later. I still didn't read the whole game, I'm mostly focusing on stuff I find interesting that is brought up, and DrH did a good job at bringing his point up, plus your post looked interesting when bats brought it up. This is where I stand right now and it's not a complete picture but the place I'm starting from. Does that answer your question? Do you now know why the post I quoted there looks scummy to me?

On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote:
geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play.



This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing.

In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it.

There are only two options here.

#1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence.

#2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation.

I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch.

---

Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him.

On January 02 2015 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Pretty sure he was getting tunneled in the game and he definitely was up for lynch and was mislynched. He wasnt emotional in the least, notice how when he martyrs fucking likem...two posts before that he's trying to buddy up to me and apologize or something. He backed.down soooo sheepishly and when it didnt work he did a 180 and tilted all the way

On January 02 2015 22:05 Koshi wrote:

None of these were on batsnacks yesterday.

if geript is scum their is a BIG chance that sickluster/robik voted for batsnacks to save him. Or anybody. But nobody???

On January 02 2015 08:21 Eden1892 wrote:
Quick check in at work, Chyz looks like newbie town instead of mafia to me. He did a big pbp analysis of Lazermonkey which reminds me of all the times I've done pbp because I thought I really had something going.

I'm also a little worried about geript lynch being too easy, idk if that will actually stay my vote though.

On January 03 2015 10:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
vivax case on jat was bullshit if anyone wanna.revisit that gem

On January 02 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote:
Like no whoever switches from gert im going to think is mafia because in your world their together so it doesint matter dont switch your votes this is a great lynch/

On January 02 2015 10:20 sicklucker wrote:
Gerit actually tried to play on new years and failed. Lynch him we can clear me and all sing kumbayas. Then start a new game tomorrow when I dont have a headach and no one has excuses.

On January 02 2015 10:46 sicklucker wrote:


On the confirmed scum who has literally conceded

On January 03 2015 10:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Oops missed this.

OK, I'm running into a problem here. I know people have already brought this up, but I need you to go over this for me one more time. You said here that you switched your vote because you weren't confident in your d1 reads, but it seems to me that your switch is entirely because of confidence in your d1 reads, and you say as much here.

Why the discrepancy between the post I linked and the post I quoted?

On January 03 2015 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:

I still have reservations about sicklucker. His 4 town reads thing actually checks out pretty good if you read carefully. That's why I took time to ask him specifically about Artanis -- he very clearly said well before any of me/Damdred/Doc switched to batsnacks that he townread all of us, and while he didn't explicitly say as much with Artanis, his answer checked out when I questioned him on that earlier. "Biggest" townreads might have been a stretch, but if sicklucker is mafia and voted batsnacks to save geript, that's one rather powerful act of divine providence to have 4 people he had previously called town all decide to kill a townie over his partner in the last hour of the game to give him a plausible excuse.

On January 03 2015 11:12 Lazermonkey wrote:

I'm not denying he had you guys as town. But that isn't the point. He was suuuper confident in his geript read and then suddenly drops EVERYTHING to vote for someone he had barely mentioned at that point.

On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Plenty of decent arguments on SL but I think sicklucker's reasoning for voting with his townreads is fine. I can understand it. I've been in plenty of situations near crunch time where I was doubting a lot myself. Hell, even Dr.H switched from his strongest reads to Bats. Feels like a double standard.

On January 03 2015 11:39 Damdred wrote:


I'm still catching up from work but I just had to stop at this post to correct what is being said.

The second post shows that hes not really reading my filter since I explained twice at least to the thread. Koshi asked me what I found similar and to show what games I looked at, I took the time went to all of the documented games and showed what I looked at. Because I said something and was asked in response some questions that I delivered on.

The last point however I think isa misrepresentation of what I said

+ Show Spoiler +

I put a spoiler there to condense my post, the only time I mentioned Eden was that Eden and myself looked the worst for telling people to not jump and sit and wait for the flip. So its a bit of a twisting of what I said in my post. I have Eden as town, just pushing mislynches and telling people to stay makes you look bad.

It is true that I talked the most about Dr H because I got caught up in a question and went on a filter diving questioning him for a bit then I left for work. So there is that.

anyway catching up a bit and

@SL, I looked at the four documented games in he database on superbia. Only has 2 mafia games and three town games posted I believe i'm not sure what game he was mafia in that you were in if you want to link me to that one i could expand my thoughts on that a bit but otherwise I just went with what I had.

On January 03 2015 11:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I've done something similar once. I tunneled Vivax for a while, Vivax tunneled me and eventually I started reading Vivax strongly as town. Then Promethelax came along and made an emotional appeal on me. I hammered Vivax.

People can be influenced even from their strongest reads. Though Dr.H was suspicious of Bats, he clearly favoured a Chyz or Geript lynch as well.

On January 03 2015 12:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Of course, but I still find it understandable. In my example I even had a townread on Vivax.
I was town.

On January 03 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:

ya. they're all pretty terrible but it's a Palmar-type read so I'm eliminating him. if Robik is town I'm gonna have to adjust my expectations for him down accordingly, but it may just be possible that he's town given Vivax. 1/3 pushing jat like a weirdo seems more likely than 2-3.

anyway, we need to kill vivax and not falter. 2 basic reasons

1.a different reaction to basically everyone bar DrH on Chyz
2.the terrible push on jat, particularly twisty shit like jat already demonstrated of cherrypicking his filter
3.koshi will be mad and he's a qt

if you're not gonna vote vivax, you need to explain *extremely* clearly why

##vote: Vivax

On January 03 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Too many people want to just afk vote vivax here and do nothing. Why so lazy ?

Marv how does koshi being town make vivax scum? Can you explain what is bad about his case on jat?

No one considers the world where mafia kill.koshi to make.vivax seem bad
Seriously?

On January 03 2015 22:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Kel

I'm interested in killing Dam. Just sayin'.

On January 03 2015 23:35 Vivax wrote:


Yes good town players only speak about the possible lynches. -.-
No, good town players make hard lynches possible.

On January 04 2015 00:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol @ the medic not protecting koshi
Biggest lol in the world

On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.

Quick thought list

I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.

Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either.

On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:

Vivax called damdred town very recently actually.

On January 04 2015 05:46 Vivax wrote:


Everyone was screaming lynch vivax.
VE came into the thread screaming lynch vivax.
Damdred came into the thread and asked something that seemed inconsistent with VE.
Damdred didn't scream lynch vivax, Damdred tried to figure out stuff when scum just finds another bullshit reason to pile up on me. Town

On January 04 2015 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I still need to read his filter since your case is pretty much "he hasn't been doing this, check his filter".
Will you vote Superbia with me?
Superbia4lynch '15.

On January 04 2015 06:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just making sure I understand your points on Damdred before I go through his filter Lazer:
-Not chasing scum
-Focussing attention on defending himself and answering questions rather than developing reads
-Asking the wrong people questions
-Doesn't take a stance on Vivax

Tell me if I missed anything.

On January 04 2015 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Damdred's first wordy post looks decent though, and he pushes on you in the start of D1. He comments on the case of Chyz, comments on Geript, attacks Superbia (questionable, but in contrast to the first two points). His D1 was solid, but he seems to have fallen off a bit on N1/D2. He has started to play a bit defensive and isn't asking as many questions as I'd like, but his stance on Vivax is clear in that he doesn't want to lynch him right now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not willing to call him scum just yet.

On January 04 2015 20:09 sicklucker wrote:
and why does my claim not make sense. Like I would think you would like to be cleared

On January 04 2015 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
what about important people like vivax and gerit

On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred.

Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong.

Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads?

So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post


Not too impressive imo.

BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum!

On January 05 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:

What makes me hesitant is that I just don't really see geript giving up like that as scum while as town he might believe in some retarded logic where him dieing somehow makes sense. In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. On the other I don't get how someone who is being shadowed would play this way anyways. The same applies to GB.

On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:


Geript is an unlynchable townie?
Take a seat and tell me that story again please.

On January 05 2015 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Marv is unlynchable?

On January 05 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't remember it this way. In my memory it was marv that attacked vivax.

On January 05 2015 05:32 Vivax wrote:


You agree with me?
Then why aren't you voting for him and instead say I'm scum for not only talking about him.

This doesn't make the slightest sense.

I mentioned DrH as being likely town with some reservations if I recall correctly, I don't know what the fuck you are reading. It's like you're constantly "misreading" things to push wrong information (like at the start of D1 where you tried to sell us a "bonus" association between me and Dam and then it turned out you forgot to read something), scumtell (you're probably just not thorough enough).

I mentioned marv a few times but my main focus still lies on geript as I have actual content that I can rely on rather than just marv's filter size and engagement (which isn't a bad tell but I prefer my argument on geript for the moment).

On January 05 2015 06:48 Superbia wrote:


So not playing d1 is alignment indicative? Indicative enough for me to be your top-scum? I would like to point you to a game (fanfic crossover) in which I was also unable to play d1 and I ended up being town. Spoiler alert: you did not read me mafia that game even though it's essentially the same situation. You were town that game. What's up with that?

Also the all-caps is very convincing.

On January 05 2015 06:51 Superbia wrote:


Getting stonewalled by a un-cced cop-soft from someone who is very likely mafia is not frustrating. News to me.

On January 05 2015 07:47 Palmar wrote:
The mafia team is actually

geript
damdred
glowingbear
marv
robik


So just lynch down this list.

On January 05 2015 07:49 Palmar wrote:

he magically town

On January 05 2015 07:52 Palmar wrote:

Do you think I need words to form reads like some random TL mafia peasant?

On January 05 2015 07:59 Vivax wrote:


He doesn't realize the Chyz vote was a pure reaction test.
Palmar wanted to figure out if I'd go after the easy target to save myself since I conveniently scumread him the previous day already.

I love that play.

On January 05 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:
because these are the posts of his that feel genuine:

On January 05 2015 09:17 Damdred wrote:
Lynch superbia the anger at the cop claim is so bad do it vote him

On January 05 2015 09:27 Superbia wrote:


What? I've already said before that I agree that SL is off the table until CC, which automatically includes you.

On January 05 2015 09:31 sicklucker wrote:


Lazermonkey was not my real check. Im 90% sure he ment to post this in scum qt their scum together and its why their so confused about my scum claim.

On January 05 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote:
So many people refused to believe my cop claim when really good players did. Like they have too much info and dont think im going to flip cop because I lied about green checking their scum partner

On January 05 2015 09:39 geript wrote:
I believe this is a situation that would have DrH wanting to lynch SL. I'm actually kinda there honestly.

On January 05 2015 09:42 sicklucker wrote:
Well shit that didnt have the reaction I hoped. Regardless of that scum slip its still a decent reason to think supers scum.

On January 05 2015 09:46 Vivax wrote:
If that is a scumslip I'm nominating this for funniest moment.

On January 05 2015 09:49 Vivax wrote:


Ok but if you didn't mistake TL for your scum qt then why did you write that stuff rofl.

On January 05 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
Ok your probably right but its not even just that which makes me think I green checked a mafia. Its certain players reaction to it.

Ritoky ,super and ksc altho he might be town like never even consider that im the cop because they think im trying to take a bullet because I gave them a fake green check. They amuse im not the real cop and getting ready for when im cced.
But their wrong im town and not getting cced.

Ritoky, super , lm mafia

Mafia team

gerit
robik
super
lm
ritoky

Green check dandred

On January 05 2015 09:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
This shit is too confusing. Lynch Superbia or Geript I don't even care anymore.
Why are there people still on Vivax after all that's happened today?

On January 06 2015 00:15 IAmRobik wrote:

I'M DOING WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I'M FOLLOWING THE CLUES.

Clue 1: Koshi died and Eden died
Clue 2: I now know two truths: Koshi was killed n1, Koshi was wrong and geript and me. Why was koshi killed? HMMMMMMM. Maybe it's cause his top scum was correct. DING DING DING DING DING!!!!
Clue 3: Eden was killed. Eden's top 2 scum suspects were ritoky and superbia.
Clue 4: Superbia and Vivax have a really fucking weird connection
Clue 5: Superbia's one post of d1 was him voting Ritoky
Clue 6: Ritoky isn't a good player, so it's highly unlikely that he's going to be the one to bus for cred because he's probably not good enough to survive late game. Thus if vivax is scum, he's probably not scum with vivax.
Clue 7: Ritoky voted Vivax 2 days now (i believe)

I follow clues. I play well. You lynch geript. You play not so well.
GGNORE

On January 06 2015 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
So why is people so suspicious of Robik? After skimming through his filter, I think he looks quite decent!

On January 04 2015 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:

if vivax is town, that becomes a very likely scenario.

my reads are something along the lines of:

me town
artanis town
marv probably town

superbia maf
ritoky maf
vivax maf

drh was town but fell off today -- explained by work, but whatever. We'll see what he comes up with in following days.
that's about where i'm at. Eden was quite obviously my biggest town read yesterday, followed closely by DrH. DrH is probably still town, but like, it's annoying that he has fallen off so hard. I did my standard town!robik stuff in defending them adamantly against all stupid questions and pushes.

I found Koshi weird yesterday. I thought he came out too hard after the bats lynch, but i guess I was wrong on that. I don't knoow how hard I pushed against vivax d1, but I definitely read him as scummier than most. I'd have to go through the rest of the filter and the rest of the player list.

Oh, there's plmammmmar, who i was claling scummy too. he made 1 fucking post and everyone splooged over it and i thoought it was a gross overreaction to his one post.

On January 05 2015 07:14 IAmRobik wrote:

WHO CARES. JUST LYNCH VIVAX...IF YOU WANNA LYNCVH SUPERBIA OR RITOKY, I'M DOWN FOR THAT TOO.

On January 05 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote:

filtered you and read it. Mediocre at best. Like, I'm not opposed to it. But I'm opposed based off of the principle that no one listens to dead people and that fucks us in like 90% of games we play, so let's kill vivax cause that's koshi's dying wish. If I'm wrong, you can blame me tomorrow or lynch geript tomorrow or whatever you wanna do

On January 06 2015 06:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause there was no vote count

On January 06 2015 06:29 IAmRobik wrote:

100% serious. I saw that some people voted geript and superbia, but I didn't know who tehy were or where their votes were previously. So because I didn't vote superbia to save geript I'm scum? You know how dumb of an argument that is?

On January 05 2015 06:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Why are we suddenly lynching geript over vivax?

On January 06 2015 06:40 IAmRobik wrote:
LM,

You like my whole filter. You don't like my one vote cause I DON'T KNOW THE FUCKING VOTE COUNT and that makes me scum. You my friend. You deserve a medal. And a helmet

On January 06 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
VE you realise Robik already talked about this earlier right?

On January 06 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:

somewhere in robik's filter?

by "talked about" i mean "mentioned" rather than some epic dialogue

On January 06 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote:
actually that's right, i went back to check, the votecount just before he said that was geript - vivax 5-5

then according to eye-witnesses robik was spotted in a dingy bar called Video Mafia and he didn't post from that point till basically deadline, in between jat switched to super etc

On January 06 2015 21:53 Damdred wrote:


why would we mafia wouldn't claim most likely in that situation...

On January 06 2015 21:08 Damdred wrote:
Its to early to be up for me but here I am.

Sl is more than likely town in this case honestly, I really doubt that a mafia under no pressure of being voted out would claim just to get the cop to out. Ithink that its an obvious ploy to get a bullet like they would in video mafia I suppose.

Ritoky have you found that game with robiks reaction yet?

On January 07 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
townies make weird and terrible claims constantly

mafia don't unless they're in actual danger of getting lynched

On January 07 2015 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
1 for 1 is not a good trade

what is wrong with you?

On January 07 2015 09:05 sicklucker wrote:

On January 07 2015 08:59 marvellosity wrote:
we should really just lynch ritoky.

essentially what he did was vote sl and throw shit on him for the cop claim when he made virtually the exact same play, as town, in a previous game.

does not compute

Also my cop claim made this game ez mode

On January 07 2015 09:11 sicklucker wrote:
Eden was the consensus town. You were just at the beach and didnt read that part of the game...

Im edens and jats top town. All the scummy people want to kill me anyway. Put this shit together

On January 07 2015 23:13 sicklucker wrote:


Dandred could be mafia. Hes playing a decent town game if he is but not amazing

On January 08 2015 01:35 sicklucker wrote:


Green dandred Green lazermonkey

On January 08 2015 03:17 Vivax wrote:


Where did a HOST say that mafia has 1 KP

On January 08 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote:


Wait. Wait.

I post information on why SL just claimed why he's scum. You say you think he's scum. Now you basically say "I think it has been said somewhere but I'm not sure" instead of frantically looking for the point where it has been said cause then you would have the easiest reason in the world to finally lynch Sicklucker.

You just claimed scum yourself.

On January 08 2015 05:07 IAmRobik wrote:
you're making a very compelling case for why i should lynch you today plammmmar

On January 08 2015 05:01 IAmRobik wrote:
why is ritoky scum?

On January 08 2015 05:18 IAmRobik wrote:

i wasn't asking you. i was asking palmar who came in herea nd sheeped the top wagon and then basically fucked off with providing no information and not saying why he was voting him other than "the only two people we should vote today are superbia and ritoky"

fuck that. fuck him. he's scum. goodbye

On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me.

On January 08 2015 06:18 Vivax wrote:
Why did Damred not simply pile up on my wagon and try to stir the fire D2.
He had basically a golden opportunity when the day alone started with like 7 votes on me. Did he expect me to die anyway and wanted cred for the flip?

Also have a hard time finding the tone differences between the two games Palmar. I think in mission mini or world cup I caught him simply cause before a lynch he claimed to have a scumread on somebody and then he didn't attempt to lynch or something similar. Or maybe it was a townread he didn't defend against a scumread.

On January 08 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
i'd actually rather not lynch ritoky today

all that we get today is everyone votes on rit and we get no info.

On January 08 2015 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:

BUT THEN I DIE AND I DON'T HAVE THE FAITH THAT YOU FREAKING IDIOTS WILL LYNCH VIVAX!

On January 08 2015 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Is no one going to analyze the game with the info that ritoky is mafia? No one has gone through his posts at all. You literally have a mafia, and you don't give a damn to figure out who he has spewed. So frustrating

On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote:

Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro?
Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point.

On January 08 2015 07:33 Palmar wrote:

we're basically counting robik's claim as a hard one, in the sense that there is literally no way he'd pull this shit off as vanilla townie. So either he is the cop or mafia.

Most likely he is the cop.

On January 08 2015 08:27 IAmRobik wrote:
btw, like. sicklucker is CONFIRMED town at this point. never lynch him. Also never lynch DrH cause of the green check. Probably never lynch marv either cause he shouldn't want to kill his partner a day from mylo especialyl when his partner has spewed 3 people clear

still reading though

On January 08 2015 08:41 Damdred wrote:
Lazer how much of my filter have you actually read? Palmar refuses t answer my questions probably because hes ignoring them or not seeing them

On January 08 2015 17:45 KelsierSC wrote:
I need to analyse your d3 but I think your alignment is tied to ritoky.

If he flips town then I was wrong about you
If he flips scum then I was right

On January 08 2015 17:48 Palmar wrote:
@Robik why is Damdred "lock clear"?

On January 08 2015 18:12 KelsierSC wrote:
LM who do you think the cop is?

On January 08 2015 20:17 KelsierSC wrote:
basically LM can't give a read on who is cop because it totally fucks him.

If he says Robik is cop then he can't explain why he aligns with ritoky and pushed on Dam and he has to read robik as cop tomorrow

if he says Ritoky is cop he can't explain why he was so fine with a ritoky lynch yesterday and said he would be fine with a ritoky lynch

On January 08 2015 20:57 KelsierSC wrote:
well i can tell you robik is cop, i dont need to speculate

you not saying is becaause you are trapped

On January 08 2015 18:06 KelsierSC wrote:


You have been pretty anti a super lynch most of the game if I recall.

yesterday the only options were super and ritoky so if ritoky is mafia it doesn't really help your case.

On January 09 2015 03:32 Damdred wrote:


Because we are taking actual examples of what happened in the thread and showing it.

You said two posts before you voted superbia that you didn't want to lynch him, then you moved to super with your biggest scum read after trying to get a new wagon going. You could of stayed on Ritoky but you decided not to.

On January 09 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:
which of my reasons aren't very good?


Dam became a town read after geript flipped town and because the two of you are opposite alignments. Plus I think he had a towny d3 but mostly the first two reasons

On January 09 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote:
took too long , mafia

On January 09 2015 06:22 KelsierSC wrote:
geript flipping town means that the two wagons on d1 were both town so why does mafia need to late switch onto bats in that position?

On January 09 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:


well like I don't really think I can say more except I disagree with you.

I have presented scummy things about you, so has dam.
you will of course disagree with them but I haven't intended to misinterpret you or lied about what you said it is just how I read the game.
I will reevaluate the game again after the night kills but for right now I think you are mafia.

On January 09 2015 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
@LM I don't see where you refuted my arguments tbh and you said my points are "BS" but then you don't even tell me which ones so I can't really discuss things with you.

You also didn't tell me who the cop is when I asked you.

On January 09 2015 07:06 KelsierSC wrote:
well you didn't tell me who you think is cop so i'm waiting till you do that

On January 09 2015 07:09 IAmRobik wrote:
WAIT, WTF, JAT WAS A MILLER?

On January 09 2015 07:11 KelsierSC wrote:


LM I am just asking you a simple question

On January 09 2015 07:14 Vivax wrote:
LM this is important please tell us who you think is more likely cop of ritoky and Robik, there's really no town motivation in not trying to figure that out.

On January 09 2015 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Lazer could you address Damdred's case?

On January 09 2015 22:20 Vivax wrote:


Thats nice and dandy but who do you think is scum besides ritoky at this point?
You can also say you didn't read and think about it yet that's fine with me too I gotta do that myself, the D3 rereading stuff.

I've only reread TheChyz's entry post today and found it quite interesting now that ritoky flipped, but then I sort of stopped, gonna do that in my time. Can you take a look at that?

On January 08 2015 07:25 Palmar wrote:
I'm off to dota. I'll read later to see if robik is genuinely rescinding (I've missed the pages while making this flowchart).

On January 11 2015 04:39 marvellosity wrote:
do you think that palmar really thought anyone but ritoky/superbia were getting lynched though?

On January 11 2015 04:49 marvellosity wrote:
i dunno. why not? if Palmar's town then he thinks damdred is the best other wagon.

If he's mafia I don't think it's because of that.