Imperial Mafia

On December 26 2014 23:23 justanothertownie wrote:

Tempting.

Will there be any 3rd party bullshit?

On December 26 2014 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
/in

On December 27 2014 04:48 Tubesock wrote:
I'd love to shadow someone or /obs if no one volunteers.

On December 27 2014 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Damn. I will just selfishly out if the setup sucks.

/in

On January 01 2015 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi, Robik. I like your contributions so far.

On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Same same.
Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously.
Any thoughts about the game at hand?

On January 01 2015 02:08 justanothertownie wrote:

I see a problem here. How will you help with the mass execution if you don't want to catch up?

On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Hi Robik.
I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation.
Kind regards,
Artanis

IAmRobik 0/14 = 0.0000%

On January 01 2015 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I think I'll get you lynched if you're scum or if you do not catch up to the thread. If you catch up and show that you are not scum, then I'll be happy to unvote you. Right now you are wasting space.

On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such.

Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him.

On January 01 2015 02:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You seem motivated to keep your streak as, I presume, unlynched town up so if you're town I expect you to step up. If you're mafia, you probably won't bother so I see it as the perfect test!

On January 01 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:

Nothing in this post makes him obviously scum.

On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

On January 01 2015 03:23 marvellosity wrote:

Let me help Robik

Artanis[Xp] 0/17 = 0.0000%

Can't we just lynch Artanis? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and we break his streak or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

On January 01 2015 06:03 sicklucker wrote:


Why does it matter if hes right or not if hes town

On January 01 2015 06:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

It wouldn't take much to convince me to vote for you if you don't shape up really quickly.

On January 01 2015 06:14 sicklucker wrote:


The problem is altho he is town that hes tunnel so hard and I stopped reading his posts so like I have a hard time believing him even tho I know he believes himself.

On January 01 2015 22:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I like Damdred's case on Lazer. Could lynch him.

Robik could you try not to be insufferable today?

On January 01 2015 23:19 Palmar wrote:
I'm actually doing a thing where I literally read the entire thread. I never do that.

I'll drop some knowledge bombs later today.

On January 01 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote:
I am not up for lynching ritoky I think. Looked ok. Ballsy at multiple places. Could be town being honest.

I guess Koshi is a bit less present as he is used to be. But we all should go back 6 months in time and give Koshi till Day 3. When he is mafia it gets really obvious simply because within 3 days I somewhere bled town.

I would suggest to lynch somebody who seems to be doing something but really isn't doing anything.

On January 02 2015 00:01 Koshi wrote:

Your excuses come over scummy. Like a scummer who faked reads yesterday and now wants to get rid of them and start fresh.

On January 02 2015 04:28 marvellosity wrote:

I take this back. Not explaining why for now.

On January 02 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote:
How about you just sheep this geript lynch Robik?

On January 02 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:


and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum.

On January 02 2015 09:01 ritoky wrote:


i am town because i am town.

i had you as town because in my notes i don't give null reads on day 1, it helps me. my read on you wasn't really logic at all it is my valuation of your abilities as aggro town and me thinking it is worth giving you a day to see if you deliver.

On January 02 2015 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:


Please don't start the flame.

On January 02 2015 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:

I heard there were cohosts...

On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

On January 02 2015 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:

My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though.

On January 02 2015 14:50 sicklucker wrote:
Like its kinda sad but their is a world where everyone who voted on bats is town not likely tho. I think robiks late vote makes him 100 % mafia would never put in a useless vote on a town about to get lynched they jus tdont.

On January 02 2015 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys. I'm here to lynch one of Palmar/marv tomorrow. Stay tuned to find out which! (Hint: it's the one who lives through the night!)

On January 02 2015 15:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

Robik is claiming doctor, mafia. Plz take note.

On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip.


First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are:

Superbia
ritoky
Koshi
geript

Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here.

Superbia:
Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way.

I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia?

ritoky:
After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker).

This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote."

Koshi:
Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location.

Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town.

geript:

This is garbage.

Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier?

And then there's this gem shortly before:



So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed.

geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that.


TL;DR
ritoky, Superbia mafia
geript wtf

On January 02 2015 16:08 Koshi wrote:
Is this real life? I said lynch vivax. I said batsnacks might be town. I wake up. Vivax 2 votes. Batsnacks ded.

Is this real life?

On January 02 2015 16:24 Eden1892 wrote:

Thanks bae. Anything to add?

On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Dr. H
Koshi
JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)
Palmar
Kelsier
Eden
I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell.

On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second.

On January 03 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik, are you really telling me you don't have a read on me besides how I treated you?

On January 03 2015 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I missed the Koshi post you're referring to. Can you quote it?

JAT is probably town, read above.

Plumber's one post secured a town hero spot for me. He hasn't really been here much otherwise so that's the only thing to judge him on. It was full of good stuff though, his read on Geript had solid reasoning and every opinion he had pretty much resonated with me, especially the one on me.

What I like about Kelsier that I remember is how he questioned me and someone else, I think it was sicklucker but I'm not sure for jumping on Chyz' bandwagon. Then when he asked us both a question he found my answer to be townie and re-evaluated, whereas I think he kept his other suspect. It showed a certain thoroughness I expect from town much more than from scum. He's generally been pretty inquisitive and seems to follow up on it which I like.

Is there anyone you townread that wasn't on my list?

On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?

On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:

No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.

On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid.

I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2.

On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:

Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read.

On January 03 2015 05:07 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw.

On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you?

On January 03 2015 05:19 justanothertownie wrote:

Think hard about it. Could there be a reason for me to give you a one day pass in this game that did not exist in others?

On January 03 2015 05:23 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know if I believe that.

On January 03 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:
You don't think I would give you a one day pass after you explicitly said you would up your play day2 when you have a perfectly valid reason not to be very active day1?

On January 03 2015 05:41 Koshi wrote:
Robik is scum because he has not bothered to give his own robiklike opinion on posts. And he has read enough posts to have an opinion on some.

He is mafia. He will be annoying tomorrow and try to do some bullying. Which he can do as town and scum.

It will be boring.

On January 03 2015 06:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

You're trash. Your posts are fucking garbage. He tunneled Geript on Day 1 and no one thought he was scum for it at the time. That proves he can't be mafia. trash.

On January 03 2015 06:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
expand on that kelsier read please

On January 03 2015 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:

You are so mean to me.... ;(

On January 03 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:

he's my top town

'splain yourself.

On January 03 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote:


...

Well I am happy to lynch geript today anyway. If he voted on a town to save himself that just confirms it for me.

On January 03 2015 06:23 Palmar wrote:
okay I'm going to play a game of dota. then I'm gonna come back and do useful things. depending on how badly or well I do in dota I might be in a different mood then.

On January 03 2015 06:24 marvellosity wrote:
robik why were you townreading me earlier in the game?

On January 03 2015 06:40 KelsierSC wrote:


who said this?

On January 03 2015 08:59 KelsierSC wrote:


yes

he has 3 reasons instaantly to scum read bats, everything bats did was scummy apparenty

On January 03 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:

dunno, read his posts?

On January 03 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
robik you need to read kelsier's filter in carol and tell me with a straight face it's the same alignment

On January 03 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote:

Thanks for spending time to run a word count on that post. What would you like to discuss instead?

On January 03 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:

like what?

On January 03 2015 09:12 Eden1892 wrote:

Well, you don't need my permission. (Do you?) What are you waiting for?

On January 03 2015 09:19 justanothertownie wrote:

The question is very relevant and nobody forces you to waste several posts complaining about it. Are you scum?

no, but that's probably what i would answer in either alignment since I haven't scum claimed in a while

On January 03 2015 09:28 Eden1892 wrote:

You said this about one of post of mine in a side tangent literally at the same time as multiple other, perhaps more directly salient lines of conversation were going on. You are just as guilty of "wasting time" on it as we are since you could have just left it alone and spent those posts talking about whatever you feel was a better use of your time.

And that's assuming all of that was indeed a waste, JAT apparently found it useful and for reasons outside the game I found it incredibly helpful as well (although I'll acknowledge that doesn't do anything for you in this game right now).

Please restate your most important thought right now for me.

On January 03 2015 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Kinda bugs me how Eden first scumreads Doc, then scumreads Chyz, then goes on with saying "One or the other is mafia" when they have been in such a clińch. Excluding a bussing here cause of that ragequit from Chyz. But I feel like Eden has been way less vocal about DrH than say TheCyyz.

On January 03 2015 10:12 KelsierSC wrote:


lol

whats the story about that pot and the black kettle, shit i forgot

On January 03 2015 06:19 sicklucker wrote:
Name a few people who should be checked.

On January 03 2015 11:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Why

On January 03 2015 11:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I thought of it too but I think the cop is pretty useless until millers and the framer start dying. It feels more like pointless filler at this point.

On January 03 2015 11:47 KelsierSC wrote:


when did I ask why you are town.

you are playing like shit,

i don't town read you I dont scum read you

apparently you start palying good at some point and I am waiting for that.

If you really think I am top scum this game I just dont get you

On January 03 2015 12:17 Eden1892 wrote:

Do you know of any past examples where you were not confident in a day 1 read I can look up and compare to? Because even if that's "pretty confident as far as day one reads," that seemed really confident for "never very confident in any day one reads" to me, and I know I'm not alone in this.

On January 03 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote:
And definitely keep a close eye on these people day2:

marv, VE, Robik and geript

Their play so far is really underwhelming if they are town.

On January 03 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote:

So you are claiming mafia I take it?

On January 03 2015 13:51 KelsierSC wrote:
when is n1 over?

On January 03 2015 13:55 Eden1892 wrote:
OK, verdict is in.

I think sicklucker is town. I don't want to kill him today, maybe ever.

Yes it's derpy as hell that he says he changed his vote off geript to batsnacks because he "wasn't confident" in the read on geript, even though he has multiple posts that basically say geript is definitely mafia. But:

(1) His story on his four town reads is completely consistent and held up despite direct questioning. He had explicitly townread three of them and implicitly townread a fourth well before he justified his vote switch by sheeping his townreads.
(2) Sheeping one's townreads off of a vote you like to another wagon late is definitely something a townie would do, and seems like something a townie is more likely to do than a mafia, because a mafia would be worried about how bad "sheep townreads onto a town flip" would look afterwards.
(3) The stars had to have aligned colossally for sicklucker to be mafia and be able to make any kind of strategic switch to kill batsnacks with the rationale that he sheeped his four most consistent town reads. You can't make this up.

Other EoN stuff:

Until I get an explanation from geript regarding why his excuse for his late vote was an outright fabrication and I hear something convincing for the switch, he's likely my kill for tomorrow. I can't see any reason why this guy should be allowed to make it to day 3.

I still have not read Vivax but promise to do so next day. His questioning me was weird and didn't seem to go anywhere so I can kinda see where people are coming from on him, but I'd like to have something more definitive.

Maybe more vote count crunching too.

Chyz, Doc, sicklucker, Koshi are my townreads so far. I should probably have more by now but I haven't paid enough attention to most people to have an honest read. Luckily I expect all of my reads to be alive tomorrow so kills should help thin that out.

That's all I think. I highly doubt I die n1 but just in case~

On January 03 2015 14:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Those assholes basically killed my two best townreads. Depressing. Good night.

On January 03 2015 14:35 justanothertownie wrote:

Is that your interpretation of my post?

On January 03 2015 14:38 sicklucker wrote:
Robik why didnt you die?

On January 03 2015 14:38 KelsierSC wrote:


i'd like your scum case on me Robik.

On January 03 2015 14:48 geript wrote:
Why would the medic heal anyone but Koshi? Why did they shoot Eden? That's a really out of place NK.

On January 03 2015 14:50 justanothertownie wrote:
And with that I am off. You better try today, Robik.

On January 03 2015 14:51 geript wrote:

I see you're still being useless and wrong.

On January 03 2015 14:53 KelsierSC wrote:


The best use of my time is to question the people who EOD voted on bats and then form my conclusions on them so it feels pretty productive.. I gave my thoughts on you and yeh you will obviously disagree but you caan't really be indignant or surprised that I read you as scummy.

Robik I want to actually analyse the night kills a bit deeper so please don't AFK leave.

On January 03 2015 15:48 sicklucker wrote:
First game ive played where we didnt lose a role night 1 . We did it!

On January 04 2015 04:23 justanothertownie wrote:

Want to know some other people who fell off the map?

Ritoky, GB, geript, Palmar

Superbia didn't. He was never on the map to begin with.

On January 04 2015 04:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi

On January 04 2015 02:54 Vivax wrote:


Not just that, he scolds me when I'm analysing Eden.



He's like SO confident that Eden is town. But going as far as calling it shitposting when I'm just talking about my impressions.
He scumreads JAT a little during the day but during the night he completely ignores the argument between us, and D2 he's like 100 % sure I'm the only viable lynch for the day. No questions asked, no comments given.

On January 04 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:

nah

On January 04 2015 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

This is wifom, don't do that.

On January 03 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote:
On checkin Eden's filter I get the feeling he didn't even have scumreads as of late, while Koshi clearly had a few.
I'm sorry for him (and for myself) that he's so bad at reading me, but I wouldn't discard his other reads as potential NK magnets.



lol

On January 04 2015 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:

I do not agree. Complete bullshit and the fact that you are the one bringing it up invalidates your whole argument.

On January 03 2015 14:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Mafia isn't posting right now.

On January 04 2015 04:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Robik?

It's more than a bit wifomy. If you use it as a defense as to why you'd be town then that means it has no value as you could've planned it as scum very easily.

I guess a little bit but I wouldn't put too much stock on it.

On January 04 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't see anything interesting here.

On January 04 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:

You are reaching sooo hard.

On January 04 2015 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:

Robik, stop trying to clear yourself for things that are pure WIFOM if they even exist and do something useful.

On January 04 2015 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:

Robik, stop trying to clear yourself for things that are pure WIFOM if they even exist and do something useful.

On January 04 2015 05:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Very helpful, Robik. Very helpful.
I never said I am playing well. But I know that you aren't and that is concerning.

On January 04 2015 05:13 Vivax wrote:


Funny that you didn't care when I talked about it myself, instead you insta-push for me being scum after having said D1 that you're suspicious of JAT, and during the night a load of bollocks was more relevant to you.

On January 04 2015 05:16 Vivax wrote:
Stop dodging my questions Robik

On January 04 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote:

The question wasn't useless at all. It finally made me townread him. Don't shit on my play if you don't understand what I am doing.

On January 04 2015 05:19 justanothertownie wrote:

It does not mean he agrees with you (assuming you think I am scum) because if he says I am not playing as well as I think then that implies THAT I AM TOWN.

On January 04 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote:


Why not talk about JAT D1 when you felt he was scummy?
Why join his wagon last-minute-vote-mafia-wifom-style when you thought he was scummy?
Why are you trying to misrepresent the stuff I said about Koshi's reads as a slip?
Why not chime in when me and JAT are fighting and we're supposed to be your suspicious guys?

On January 04 2015 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:

Bullshit. rofl

On January 04 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote:


What agenda is possibly more important than talking about the guys you suspect before the night and instantly after?

On January 04 2015 05:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik there is no way you missed me and Vivax clashing night 1 when you thought I was scummy and obviously Vivax too since you have been screaming for his lynch all day.

On January 04 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:

Then why do you suddenly think Vivax is scum? Only because of the nightkills?

On January 04 2015 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players.

On January 04 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:


Wait a minute. So for the fact that Koshi was the NK I'm scum, but when it's about reading JAT, it's cause you feel like sheeping Koshi.

How do you feel about yourself and geript then.

On January 04 2015 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:

Give me a summary and I will say so. My problem with you so far is that you aren't doing town Robik stuff and until very recently it looked like you still scumread me.

On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote:
Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik?

On January 01 2015 23:09 Superbia wrote:
This d1 is so perfectly timed.

On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4.

##Vote: Ritoky

On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor

On January 04 2015 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:

Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken.

On January 04 2015 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:

I guess your reads aren't the worst but they aren't many either. Meh.

On January 04 2015 11:02 KelsierSC wrote:


Robik you say that the geript wagon was uglier than the bats wagon.

But here you point to this wagon being ugly



that wagon contains Eden and DrH .

Why is the bats wagon suddenly clean even though the same people voted on a "dirty" wagon

On January 04 2015 13:14 KelsierSC wrote:


robik are you here?

On January 05 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Ah Robik, can you explain why you put me at the top of your scumlist?

On January 05 2015 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:


I think my argument is good.

You can read that.