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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 02 2015 08:31 GMT
#1901
On January 02 2015 17:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just reading your fervor as over-the-top and feigned Koshi, sorry. Maybe if you EXPLAINED why you think someone with circa one post is mafia I'd be less bored.

I agree with this. Koshi I really don't see how it is that you conclude the batsnacks lynch was really that bad if you read p86-88.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 02 2015 08:31 GMT
#1902
Actually Koshi I take that back - I'm thinking of someone else. Vivax is a piece of shit this game. Half of his filter is begging other people to "convince" him who to vote for and his vote ends up being uselessly on Chyz in spite of even DocH (the locked in Chyz voter) vote not even being on Chyz.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 02 2015 08:34 GMT
#1903
I don't take back that it's feigned bitterness. Lol

Or at least it seems that way. I admit I still haven't really looked at Vivax but Koshi's plainly incorrect assessment of batsnacks is leaving me skeptical as to his genuineness right now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 02 2015 08:39 GMT
#1904
marv has done a couple of stylistic things that make me lean town in spite of the lean filter - for one he said the magic words "it should be pretty obvious I'm town by now" which is almost a dead giveaway, but he also did this thing I noticed at the time that is both (imo) adorable AND (imo) alignment-indicative that he's town:

On January 02 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears.

1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though.

True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia.

i don't think town-geript bullshits reasons on multiple people on my list if he is town.

On January 02 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
tautology alert
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 09:27 GMT
#1905
On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.

This is a 100% bullshit post from Vivax. There is no way town Vivax thinks like this. Vivax also slipped in his own bullshit by saying the red bolded.

That's enough to read Vivax 100% scum. The entire post is such bullshit. VIVAX IS SMART. Yet "he wonders why" or "he can't grasp" very simple stuff.

This is not town Vivax



Other reason to why Vivax is scum:
On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.

You have to understand Vivax posted this on page 59.
While the batsnacks thing happened on page 57.

So Vivax is 2 pages behind. Yet he says this:
On January 02 2015 10:32 Vivax wrote:
Might be I'm just bad at the game or simply cause I'm not caught up but I don't feel as strongly about lynching geript as the majority here seems to. When I asked Artanis it didn't convince me, when I looked at that geript-marv interaction it didn't click either, although it seemed to be of great importance to DrH even though his fav. lynch is still Cyhz which to me makes more sense.

This is 4 hours later. HOW IS VIVAX NOT CAUGHT UP YET?

Vivax is bullshitting you people. He is playing you with this entire "I am not caught up" bullshit. He is using it to not draw too much attention to him. Or that people expect him to participate in the ongoing lynch.

Vivax did not touch geript immediately when entering the thread.
Vivax is a town leader. Vivax is smart. Vivax is the true detective.
Vivax was in this thread for multiple hours and did not touch geript. There is no excuse for a townplayer who was "contributing" to not touch geript. He quoted something from batsnacks and Lazermonkey on page 57. Everything around geript happened already. Why is he not participating in the moment?

But he has time to to ask marv 2-3 times why marv wanted Vivax to come to the thread. But Vivax never does anything with marv ignoring him. Or explain why it is important. WHY is it important marv wondered if Vivax would come back? Do you think Vivax would have produced some sick meta read on marv if marv replied? Nope. It was a bullshit random question.



On January 02 2015 11:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today

No, it is because the reasoning Vivax gave was horrendous.


Maybe in your opnion it's horrendous but hif it's horrendous it doesn't make me mafia and you're free to talk up to me, I've made it clear enough that I prefer the reasoning on the Chez than the reasoning on geript and I don't feel like lying about it.

Mostly I just see Koshi repeating to lynch me even though I still don't know why except that I was afk during a festivity. Koshi evidently doesn't have friends to party with at NYE bwhahaha

Dat adhom. Ok. Now you can die.
I made it pretty obvious that my suspicion wasn't because Vivax was inactive on NYE.

This is the second or third post in which Vivax says "that he doesn't understand" why people are thinking he might be scum.


Even if he disagrees with the reason why people read Vivax as scum. He should at least have a grasp on why it is. Or at least question it. Look it up. But no. This game Vivax is from Barcelona and he knows nothing.



Also notice how he leaves the thread making 4-5 joke posts and making himself popular? If Vivax really was catching up this entire time, he would leave the thread with some sort of -final reads after catching up-. Or at least something concrete.

Not make 5 joke posts and fuck off. Nope. Never.

Vivax was lurking guys. A real not caught up Vivax who was catching up would not be posting so much in the moment stuff. He was caught up and lurking the entire time he was here.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 09:35 GMT
#1906
On January 02 2015 10:30 Koshi wrote:
Palmar CLEARLY states he wants geript lynched. Only when there is.shennanigans Vivax is second.

Now Vivax trows dirt on Palmar for not lynching geript to deduce marv his alignment.


LYNCH VIVAX godmanit

THIS AS WELL.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 09:56 GMT
#1907
Look at the time.
Here he read something from page 57:
On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.



Then Vivax makes 5-6 posts talking about how Dr.H. his posts convince Vivax that Chyz is scum. Especially this chain makes it believable Vivax is actually caught up. Or decently caught up. You have to understand that this happens on page 62:
On January 02 2015 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote:
I'm sold, DrH. The 8 hours ago he seemed fine" part was enough for me.

##Vote TheChyz

Yeah? Could you tell me in your own words how it makes Chyz scummy?


Claims he was fine with DrH cause he looked like he was scumhunting, if you look at the posts in question at the time he said that DrH is spewing fluff left and right?

Did you read it?



Here Vivax comments on page 68 on Chyz his post from page 65.
On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.



So on page 59 Vivax is commenting on things that happened on page 57.
On page 62 Vivax is pretty confidently speaking about his Chyz read. He knows everything Chyz and Dr.H posted about the manner.
On page 68 Vivax knows what happens on page 65. Comments on it.

Then on page 69, this is his way to deflect my initial push. This is how he brushes off my pressure. Which I started instantly when he posted that Chyz shit on page 68. Suddenly he is not caught up and insecure:
On January 02 2015 09:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
LM didnt stick so gotta deflect off geript onto vivax i guess. He was inactive earlier so that makes it easy to bullshit and jump all over him while he's catching up


Well it's easy for people who are caught up with the game to wonder what the latecomers are up to since their focus is so much different from their own. It will pass as all that synchronizes, for now I'd rather get a grip of what is going on rather than getting involved in arguments about those discrepancies between my visuals and their own.



Then on page fucking 76:
On January 02 2015 10:32 Vivax wrote:
Might be I'm just bad at the game or simply cause I'm not caught up but I don't feel as strongly about lynching geript as the majority here seems to. When I asked Artanis it didn't convince me, when I looked at that geript-marv interaction it didn't click either, although it seemed to be of great importance to DrH even though his fav. lynch is still Cyhz which to me makes more sense.

This is page 76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vivax has been playing and replying to events from page 59-76 AND NOW HE SAYS HE IS BAD AT THE GAME OR NOT CAUGHT UP. TEXTBOOK MAFIA SENTENCE
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:00 GMT
#1908
On January 02 2015 09:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:21 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote:
Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript.

On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.


On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.


You can ask me about geript. I have no real guess about geript lol. I've read the bit where marv calls him out for trying to find holes in his list and geript then calls him 100 % mafia, and I've set it aside cause it just looked uninteresting. I didn't find what geript wrote about marv's stuff on two guys as outrageous as marv did, and for the moment I don't really care about geript and didn't spend so much time thinking over him as I did over LM's post and TheChyz.

How can you not care for him when he's the leading lynch less than 5 hours before the deadline?


If I can make a point in my favour it's cause I focus on the stuff I find interesting in a specific moment rather than paying attention to bandwagon politics? Still gotta read what this geript stuff is all about but when I posted the bits I found interesting he kept being brought up and I didn't really get why. Usual stuff when you're not caught up it's like everybody talks past you.

Will you have enough time to catch up before the deadline?


Dunno I'm currently drinking gin tonic and answering to the stuff from the last pages. I'll just see where my nose leads me to. Checking out this geript stuff next.

So fucking mafia.

His timeline makes 0 sense. When asked questions he has never read anything about it. But he was an expert on Chyz/Dr.H. content when he was "contributing about it".

And how is Vivax annoyed at marv for ignoring him when Vivax asked a question?


When somebody asks Vivax a questions he dodges faster than Neo dodges bullets.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:07 GMT
#1909
On January 02 2015 10:26 Vivax wrote:
This brings back memories of Palmar saying "if geript is town marv is 100 % scum" or something similar, it brings them back cause lately Palmar popped in proposing me as scum after proposing this notion which seems incoherent. Shouldn't he still care more about geript's alignment since in his eyes it'd be a tell for marv?

Not only is this the biggest pile of shit defense I have ever saw in my life. Vivax paraphrased:
"Palmar looks pretty bad for thinking I am scum while his sole focus should be lynching geript to deduce marv his alignment."


Also please notice:
Suddenly Vivax also remembers things from the thread.

Is it not nice Vivax always remembers things from the thread when it is to push his agenda?

But when somebody asks Vivax a question: "I am not caught up, I can't answer"
When somebody puts pressure on him: "He thinks I am scum because he is caught up and I am not and that's why he feels I am off"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:10 GMT
#1910
Because this town failed to lynch obvious scum I am now limited to talk about 1 person during the night.
Vivax
You screwed up town. You screwed up.


It was always geript or Vivax.

You people failed so hard.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:28 GMT
#1911
On January 02 2015 17:34 Eden1892 wrote:
I don't take back that it's feigned bitterness. Lol

Or at least it seems that way. I admit I still haven't really looked at Vivax but Koshi's plainly incorrect assessment of batsnacks is leaving me skeptical as to his genuineness right now


On January 02 2015 11:28 Koshi wrote:
Batsnacks might be town as well. He is batsnacks insane. This is not sure. I am sleep depraved atm

And he bled town when you were voting him. Like. It was obvious.

That being said.
He had a bad first 20 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:35 GMT
#1912
Both Robik and GB didn't vote.

This game is not balanced around modkills. So don't get modkilled. Dumbasses.

Why did Eden not see this?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:42 GMT
#1913
Damdred might be mafia.
geript might be mafia

Vivax is mafia



Marv should step up
Robik should step up
ritoky should step up
Chyz should step up (= come back and play)


People I don't care enough about this game and should spend more time on but can't cuz guts:
GB
sicklucker
Artanis[XP] (Still my friend but yeah, cba to decide)


Who is this:
Superbia


All other people are town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 10:45 GMT
#1914
VE is also still on the table. I am liking him atm. But that could be because he shares my view. He hasn't done anything townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2015 11:05 GMT
#1915
eh that timeline stuff is pretty good....you might have sold me on vivax as mafia.

add him to the pile with SL and marv.

don't know why everyone here is avoiding talking about SL like he is the plague, the guy is the most clear mafia in the game.

first, he gives a light scum read on me early on in the game for some weird stuff about me not remembering a previous game and slaps his vote on me for nearly the entire phase. he then proceeds to not push that read or actively attempt to get me lynched in the slightest. he pursues trying to scum read other people while leaving his vote uselessly on me. then comes his geript read, something that he goes into a vast amount of detail on and actually develops his own non-meta reasons for reading geript scum. finally late in the phase he moves his vote onto geript. only to very quickly after that shennanie onto batsnacks for no stated reason and hammer a town who the best case on him was meta.

to summarize that 2nd point: he spent the majority of the phase developing HIS OWN non-meta scum read on geript only to defer to SOMEONE ELSE'S meta read on batsnacks without a damn word about it. that makes absolutely no sense, especially for him. he is a player who is relentless on his own reads and not quick to defer to others as town. this is not town SL, this is not town period; he is mafia and should be lynched immediately upon the start of the day.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 11:08 GMT
#1916
On January 02 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote:
Towns in a really bad spot I think. I still feel like most of us if not all of us are town but now we look like shit. GAME OVER MAN.

This is such a bad post you might be right.

I just don't know the guy and he keeps posting things and doesn't rub me the wrong way.

I could sheep you on your read but I sheeped somebody on batsnacks and then added him on my scumlist and it was fucking terrible. Because before I sheeped this guy I am sure I thought batsnacks was ok-ish.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 11:17 GMT
#1917
On January 02 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote:
Towns in a really bad spot I think. I still feel like most of us if not all of us are town but now we look like shit. GAME OVER MAN.

This has a flair of some cynical happyness that only scum can have.
I had a good night of sleep.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#1918
On January 02 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote:
Towns in a really bad spot I think. I still feel like most of us if not all of us are town but now we look like shit. GAME OVER MAN.

This has a flair of some cynical happyness that only scum can have.


i also don't get the "look like shit" part if he is town. being concerned with image and appearance is something mafia does.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#1919
I am going to sheep that SL read. It is a very fine read.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 02 2015 11:23 GMT
#1920
well that was spectacularly awful.
Computer says mafia
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