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On January 02 2015 16:34 ritoky wrote:
so we're lynching sicklucker like...immediately and unanimously at the start of next phase right?
spends most of phase talking about why geript is mafia, randomly shennanie hammers a town for no stated reason coming off of the guy he hast stated is role hunting and mafia....guy was mafia last phase, still mafia this phase. needs to die immediately. like 0 questions asked.
Me and gerts are probably never mafia together either. Were not lynching me tho but I deserve some heat
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On January 02 2015 16:35 sicklucker wrote:
can be mafia together
I wouldn't worry about this yet, we need to find and kill a mobster before we can really start worrying about whether x and y fit as a team. They can both be independently suspicious and worth killing.
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On January 02 2015 16:37 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 16:34 ritoky wrote:
so we're lynching sicklucker like...immediately and unanimously at the start of next phase right?
spends most of phase talking about why geript is mafia, randomly shennanie hammers a town for no stated reason coming off of the guy he hast stated is role hunting and mafia....guy was mafia last phase, still mafia this phase. needs to die immediately. like 0 questions asked. Welcome back to the land of the living. (I apologize in advance if anyone died in the ER.) What happened to pushing this read when you had a chance to get him lynched?
You see at the time I was clearly not lyncable and hes mafia so its wasted effort.
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True but someone can go through my filter and make a game changing decision based on that very good read. As town I want to post these things.
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On January 02 2015 16:37 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 16:34 ritoky wrote:
so we're lynching sicklucker like...immediately and unanimously at the start of next phase right?
spends most of phase talking about why geript is mafia, randomly shennanie hammers a town for no stated reason coming off of the guy he hast stated is role hunting and mafia....guy was mafia last phase, still mafia this phase. needs to die immediately. like 0 questions asked. Welcome back to the land of the living. (I apologize in advance if anyone died in the ER.) What happened to pushing this read when you had a chance to get him lynched?
i mean, i don't like making excuses and don't like reading people's excuses, but i am young without a family, so i am an ideal candidate for working 12 hr shifts in the ER during the holidays. pays out the ass tho.
you're right i probably could have and should have pushed for my lynch more. i won't make that error again because apparently we shannanie onto stupid targets for no good reasons. and my scum reads hammer them.
sicklucker needs to die immediately, his vote on bats makes no sense is ridiculous and the most deflective crap ever off of someone he spent all day railing against.
after that marv needs to die because his read on me is still lazy, he hasn't delivered anything, and he seemed way too content with proceedings yesterday. did not even attempt to steer the message/agenda.
then after we are done with the 2 guaranteed mafia, i will probably have found more.
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I'll say that I've read a good portion of the game already and I think Doc is town. His tunnel on Chyz is tremendous and he believes that shit. If you aren't just drenched in his confirmation bias reading it then you're not reading this game.
@Doc - Flame me if you will, but I don't think your case is super strong. I can see some of the points, but frankly I agree with the sentiment that you just started at some point just making everything he does "scummy". There was some point where he appealed to you directly and your response to him sealed it for me. Like, he COULD have been just town trying to reason with you but you vilified him for it. He could still be mafia. I'd like to see what he has to say when he's not responding to a never-ending death-tunnel. For my part, I wouldn't fight his lynch tomorrow and would sooner shake my head in disapproval than argue with you continuing to tunnel him tomorrow, I'm just saying there's a lot of stuff in this game that's colored by this read and it could be wrong and you're gonna hate yourself in the morning if you come to find out that it's wrong. Take a step back and look elsewhere for a bit. Then maybe come back to this dude. I like what I've seen so far this night-phase. And for God's sake don't freak out and quit if it seems like no one is listening to you. That's the one line I've seen you toe this game I'd REALLY like for you to avoid.
I think geript MIGHT be town, but it's mostly based on his early stuff. The way he quit the thread really irked me and I could totes magotes lynch him if he doesn't come redeem himself for that.
I think that Superbia might be mafia, that's probably where I'd look tomorrow for mind-blowing analysis-or-die.
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Nah, won't freak out. Need to revisit chyz later because I think the good points I made got lost in the rest of my endless ranting. I will get that done before I go in to work tomorrow.
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On January 02 2015 17:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, won't freak out. Need to revisit chyz later because I think the good points I made got lost in the rest of my endless ranting. I will get that done before I go in to work tomorrow.
What's your impression of players who you would consider to be on the edges of the conflict between you and Chyz? I know you've called out several people directly for deflecting or defending Chyz, but what about people who seem to be just nodding in assent one way or the other?
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Page 86-88 batsnacks is active like hell and gives reads. People fucking lynched him? WHAT A FUCKING JOKERS.
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This fucking happens when people start playing right when I go to bed and I can't protect them from teh jubjubs.
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On January 02 2015 17:14 Koshi wrote:
Page 86-88 batsnacks is active like hell and gives reads. People fucking lynched him? WHAT A FUCKING JOKERS.
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This fucking happens when people start playing right when I go to bed and I can't protect them from teh jubjubs.
You couldn't have protected him anyway, not without calling people dumb and bad. Any reason you've neglected to do so this game? That's generally your go-to strat.
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On January 02 2015 17:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Doc - Flame me if you will, but I don't think your case is super strong. I can see some of the points, but frankly I agree with the sentiment that you just started at some point just making everything he does "scummy". There was some point where he appealed to you directly and your response to him sealed it for me. Like, he COULD have been just town trying to reason with you but you vilified him for it. He could still be mafia. I'd like to see what he has to say when he's not responding to a never-ending death-tunnel. For my part, I wouldn't fight his lynch tomorrow and would sooner shake my head in disapproval than argue with you continuing to tunnel him tomorrow, I'm just saying there's a lot of stuff in this game that's colored by this read and it could be wrong and you're gonna hate yourself in the morning if you come to find out that it's wrong. Take a step back and look elsewhere for a bit. Then maybe come back to this dude. I like what I've seen so far this night-phase. And for God's sake don't freak out and quit if it seems like no one is listening to you. That's the one line I've seen you toe this game I'd REALLY like for you to avoid.
This seems fluffy to me, Doc already moved off of Chyz to vote geript, then moved off Chyz again to kill batsnacks. Doc spent a lot of time d1 on Chyz obviously, but at this point with Doc talking about other people and having killed someone not named Chyz, calling out Doc for tunneling Chyz seems easy.
Correct me if I'm wrong VE but does this not just boil down to "Doc tunneled hard on Chyz and I don't think mafia!Doc does this"? If so, can you please contribute something else? You say you've already read most of the game but imo this is probably the easiest thing to pull from the game so far. You sound like you're ready to play, which I like, but I need something a little more next-level to show me you're really dialed in.
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This is 100% fucking unforgivable.
Nobody even talked about Vivax.
Fuck this.
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On January 02 2015 17:14 Koshi wrote:
Page 86-88 batsnacks is active like hell and gives reads. People fucking lynched him? WHAT A FUCKING JOKERS.
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This fucking happens when people start playing right when I go to bed and I can't protect them from teh jubjubs.
You're gonna have to cite sources because he wouldn't even tell me straight that he thought Chyz was mafia despite voting him. I can understand your frustration at not having Vivax go but your summary here thoroughly contradicts what I experienced on the ground at the time in question.
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It's meant specifically for Doc, as notated by the "@Doc". So yes, it actually IS fluffy, because if you'll notice I've already said that I think Doc is VERY VERY town. That post isn't meant for me to show YOU that I'm paying attention to the game. That post is meant for me to appeal to Doc to hang in there because I witness him almost lose it like twice this phase and I'd like to try and play a civil game with him. It has nothing to do with you or my reads.
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On January 02 2015 17:18 Koshi wrote:
This is 100% fucking unforgivable.
Nobody even talked about Vivax.
Fuck this.
Some people did. Not around lynch time when it mattered, but he was mentioned earlier this day.
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On January 02 2015 17:14 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 17:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, won't freak out. Need to revisit chyz later because I think the good points I made got lost in the rest of my endless ranting. I will get that done before I go in to work tomorrow. What's your impression of players who you would consider to be on the edges of the conflict between you and Chyz? I know you've called out several people directly for deflecting or defending Chyz, but what about people who seem to be just nodding in assent one way or the other?
Nobody comes to mind, I would have to do a lot of rereading.
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On January 02 2015 17:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's meant specifically for Doc, as notated by the "@Doc". So yes, it actually IS fluffy, because if you'll notice I've already said that I think Doc is VERY VERY town. That post isn't meant for me to show YOU that I'm paying attention to the game. That post is meant for me to appeal to Doc to hang in there because I witness him almost lose it like twice this phase and I'd like to try and play a civil game with him. It has nothing to do with you or my reads.
OK, that's fair, sorry I misinterpreted where you were going with it.
Care to show me now by commenting on something else? 
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On January 02 2015 17:22 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 17:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's meant specifically for Doc, as notated by the "@Doc". So yes, it actually IS fluffy, because if you'll notice I've already said that I think Doc is VERY VERY town. That post isn't meant for me to show YOU that I'm paying attention to the game. That post is meant for me to appeal to Doc to hang in there because I witness him almost lose it like twice this phase and I'd like to try and play a civil game with him. It has nothing to do with you or my reads. OK, that's fair, sorry I misinterpreted where you were going with it. Care to show me now by commenting on something else?
I'm sure that you'll have thoughts enough that you'd think there's a gun to my head by the end of the night. Palmar has already once called for vigs on my slot and who the hell knows what he'll say now that I've replaced RoL.
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On January 02 2015 17:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 17:14 Koshi wrote:
Page 86-88 batsnacks is active like hell and gives reads. People fucking lynched him? WHAT A FUCKING JOKERS.
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This fucking happens when people start playing right when I go to bed and I can't protect them from teh jubjubs. You couldn't have protected him anyway, not without calling people dumb and bad. Any reason you've neglected to do so this game? That's generally your go-to strat.
The only person I should have used that strat on D1 is Dr.H.
Man... How did this happen. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Vivax is so fucking mafia.
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I'm just reading your fervor as over-the-top and feigned Koshi, sorry. Maybe if you EXPLAINED why you think someone with circa one post is mafia I'd be less bored.
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