Imperial Mafia - Page 4

On January 02 2015 14:50 sicklucker wrote:
Like its kinda sad but their is a world where everyone who voted on bats is town not likely tho. I think robiks late vote makes him 100 % mafia would never put in a useless vote on a town about to get lynched they jus tdont.

On January 02 2015 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys. I'm here to lynch one of Palmar/marv tomorrow. Stay tuned to find out which! (Hint: it's the one who lives through the night!)

On January 02 2015 15:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

Robik is claiming doctor, mafia. Plz take note.

On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip.


First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are:

Superbia
ritoky
Koshi
geript

Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here.

Superbia:
Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way.

I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia?

ritoky:
After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker).

This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote."

Koshi:
Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location.

Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town.

geript:

This is garbage.

Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier?

And then there's this gem shortly before:



So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed.

geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that.


TL;DR
ritoky, Superbia mafia
geript wtf

On January 02 2015 16:08 Koshi wrote:
Is this real life? I said lynch vivax. I said batsnacks might be town. I wake up. Vivax 2 votes. Batsnacks ded.

Is this real life?

On January 02 2015 16:24 Eden1892 wrote:

Thanks bae. Anything to add?

On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Dr. H
Koshi
JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)
Palmar
Kelsier
Eden
I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell.

On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second.

On January 03 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik, are you really telling me you don't have a read on me besides how I treated you?

On January 03 2015 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I missed the Koshi post you're referring to. Can you quote it?

JAT is probably town, read above.

Plumber's one post secured a town hero spot for me. He hasn't really been here much otherwise so that's the only thing to judge him on. It was full of good stuff though, his read on Geript had solid reasoning and every opinion he had pretty much resonated with me, especially the one on me.

What I like about Kelsier that I remember is how he questioned me and someone else, I think it was sicklucker but I'm not sure for jumping on Chyz' bandwagon. Then when he asked us both a question he found my answer to be townie and re-evaluated, whereas I think he kept his other suspect. It showed a certain thoroughness I expect from town much more than from scum. He's generally been pretty inquisitive and seems to follow up on it which I like.

Is there anyone you townread that wasn't on my list?

On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?

On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:

No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.

On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid.

I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2.