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Eden1892
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Something like that. You get it. Please stay on batsnacks. It is a much better vote. We can smoke out geript when we have more time to figure out wtf he's doing. Vote for the guy who's suspicious not for the guy who did one weird unexplained thing please. | ||
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Eden1892
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On January 02 2015 13:53 justanothertownie wrote: But there is no reason for geript to do that. He called marv 100 % mafia. Why isn't he voting him if he wastes his vote anyways? Maybe he has a Vivax case he's making near the end and hasn't posted it yet? (I've been waiting for this to drop actually) Whatever it is I really do not want to lose the batsnacks lynch. I think my case on batsnacks is much better than "I don't get what geript's vote is doing so I want to kill him" | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:56 Damdred wrote: we should stick this out, an unexplained vote we can figure out during night and next cycle. +1 | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:57 justanothertownie wrote: How are you all so confident now but didn't do jackshit to push batsnacks earlier? I didn't read batsnacks until it was suggested to me. shrug | ||
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On January 02 2015 14:25 sicklucker wrote: More importantly why didnt you pay attention and notice you wasted your vote? This, basically. I have a hard time believing that geript didn't realize what he was doing. His vote came after batsnacks took the lead for good. geript is my kill for tomorrow until further notice. | ||
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these were the ones that bothered me a bit On January 02 2015 13:52 sicklucker wrote: This is so weird like. its basically a 5-5 or 4-5 tie between them now and neither wants to vote the other. Did we find 2 mafia boys? On January 02 2015 13:59 sicklucker wrote: I feel like the vote is probably 6 towns leggo I don't have any great reason to think they're per se suspicious or anything but I got a bad vibe from them | ||
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On January 02 2015 15:39 sicklucker wrote: And edins trying to bury me so from my perspective hes the most likely mafia of the bunch gonna have to look at him later. I'm not trying to do anything of the sort. Jumpy much? | ||
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First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are: Superbia ritoky Koshi geript Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here. Superbia: Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way. I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia? ritoky: After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker). This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote." Koshi: Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location. Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town. geript: On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote: Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch? This is garbage. Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier? And then there's this gem shortly before: On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote: Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia. So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed. geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that. TL;DR ritoky, Superbia mafia geript wtf | ||
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On January 02 2015 15:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm inclined to agree with his first point so idk. SL has said some shit that i didn't like and some stuff i did like. i'll check his filter too. I kinda have you leaning scummy rn eden, we might as well talk now since this my only day off work this week. I will have to be much less active for the next 4 days or so. What's up? I don't feel like messing with vote count analysis any more right now. What do you think about geript? I feel like his explanation is obviously BS and yet at the same time it's hard to understand why he wouldn't just put the nail in town!batsnacks coffin if he were mafia. | ||
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On January 02 2015 16:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Well the main thing is that after he leaves the thread he comes back like he's ready to take the game seriously and then this. if he's scum i could see him just going into panic mode and doing something stupid, if he was town he would have been putting up a bigger fight this whole thread I think. I think there's no way that all town is involved in this like sicklucker seems to think, it was a great lynch at the time and everyone hit the panic button on it I tend to agree re: geript. I'm trying to be charitable and find reasons not to kill him because the two posts I quoted have me seeing red, but I don't get it. It was a good lynch. Also tending to agree that that wasn't an all-townie play but I don't know who to look at per se. Artanis is the first person that comes to mind for a couple of reasons: - of the people who ended up voting batsnacks, he sticks out most in my memory as egging me on - of the batsnacks voters, he was on Chyz first, not geript; that's where I think a mafia trying to swing a lynch away from geript would be - he bounced from the thread immediately post-flip; admittedly not a strong point given the time in the Netherlands but it seemed a little abrupt | ||
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On January 02 2015 16:08 Koshi wrote: Is this real life? I said lynch vivax. I said batsnacks might be town. I wake up. Vivax 2 votes. Batsnacks ded. Is this real life? Good news though, I decided you were a good guy in my vote count analysis. | ||
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