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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 20:54 GMT
#701
Besides, wagons that last don't tend to be formed in the first 24. If you really want to lynch Chyz, then you should probably be starting the push into gear around ~16-12 hrs prior to lynch.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 20:54 GMT
#702
Why would it be good scumhunting for me to tunnel and focus on TheChyz if he is town? Why would it make sense for him to then be upset about it and call me a filter spammer for it in the same post that he's complimenting my play 8 hours ago. "I was fine with him 8 hours ago". Then when that gets pointed out his response was to say "Well yeah I was pissed off and annoyed etc"

That means something very very different from "I was fine with him". He was talking bullshit to get me to stop tunneling him . It doesn't make any sense for a town player to be acting like this.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 20:55 GMT
#703
On January 01 2015 05:54 geript wrote:
Besides, wagons that last don't tend to be formed in the first 24. If you really want to lynch Chyz, then you should probably be starting the push into gear around ~16-12 hrs prior to lynch.

want me to just post all my town and null reads until then? you have very little to say about the case and now you're just trying to make me shut up.
RIP Aaliyah
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 31 2014 20:59 GMT
#704
On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

ok, i won't lynch you today <3
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 31 2014 20:59 GMT
#705
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 20:59 GMT
#706
On January 01 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:54 geript wrote:
Besides, wagons that last don't tend to be formed in the first 24. If you really want to lynch Chyz, then you should probably be starting the push into gear around ~16-12 hrs prior to lynch.

want me to just post all my town and null reads until then? you have very little to say about the case and now you're just trying to make me shut up.

Nah, I'm just tired of hitting refresh and seeing yet another wall of text on Chyz. Especially when I think he's town so I probably won't get around to reading it until after new years. Especially when a decent number are quotes of a bad case on him. Especially when it means that I ahve to go back and vet each and every thing especially in context of the thread. My point is that what you're doing hurts my ability to read the thread and your ability to push Chyz. Plus, it's super exceptionally tunnely that started off of a bunch of bad points; that's reads like confirmation bias more than anything else.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 31 2014 21:02 GMT
#707
On January 01 2015 05:49 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Geript you asked me about 3 people earlier, one of them was sicklucker then you never really got back to the post after I mentioned he escaped me. Was there anything about him that you found of note? I'm scrolling through his filter and it's not bad.

I find how much he holds onto the expected meta case a bit weird and wasn't sure what to think of it. That and I don't feel like spending an hour to read 4 other games when he only has a 2 page filter. Plus I don't want to go back and have to figure out his usual post count and content per day.

Alright, let's reconstruct this. I believe it started here:
On December 31 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote:
##vote geript for voting for shitty reasons because mafia would do that right? ;p

Geript replies 10 minutes later asking if he only played town before, then asks for a link to his previous scumgame which sicklucker declines. Sicklucker then brings it up again later (Geript asks for an opinion from Dr. H in the meantime) after which:
On December 31 2014 15:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot.

It's ok babygirl. I've never meta'd anyone ever before. You'll be getting my meta v-card.

Possibly a joke, but it could definitely be interpreted as serious. If he does interpret it as serious I can see someone like sicklucker chasing the bone. Given his pretty proactive game so far I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Is that your only reason for finding him suspect?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 21:02 GMT
#708
So you just don't care to read it. That's fine, makes you look super good. I'll see what other people think and I'll repost it and add to it as many times as I need to if it gets buried.
RIP Aaliyah
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:02 GMT
#709
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:03 GMT
#710
It isn't even my birthday wtf TL
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 31 2014 21:03 GMT
#711
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


Why does it matter if hes right or not if hes town
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 31 2014 21:04 GMT
#712
On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote:
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.

Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 21:04 GMT
#713
I am right.
RIP Aaliyah
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 31 2014 21:04 GMT
#714
Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 21:05 GMT
#715
No one will read an actual case and respond. Just want to see more lists of null reads. Apparently chyzs weak accusation at koshi where he doesnt even commit makes him seem really town? I fail to see why
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 21:08 GMT
#716
On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list.

First of all I never OMGUS'd any of Chyz's defenders. Your main read is geript right? That's my second choice read. Why would I add batsnacks to the lynch list? Why would you if you're not just being sarcastic right now and I'm misunderstanding?

You said yourself you won't even bother reading any case I make on TheChyz so just ignore everything I say if that's what you need to do. 100% of this game should be tunneling TheChyz. 16% is not nearly enough.
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 31 2014 21:08 GMT
#717
I declined the link because Im lazy and dont really know how to use the archive. I told him the game and its a very recent game that should be at the top of the forum list. Dont put scum on me
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 31 2014 21:09 GMT
#718
On January 01 2015 06:03 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


Why does it matter if hes right or not if hes town

If whoo is town? If Dr H is town? Because he's really convinced and I want to give him what he wants...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 21:11 GMT
#719
You could also look at how much more confidently TheChyz plays in cultured mini mafia where he was town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?user=TheChyz
On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote:
kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote:
On February 26 2014 12:26 TheChyz wrote:
Hey geript I'm not a moron you know. My memory lasts more than a few minutes. Would you mind explain why rayn and toad can't be scum together. (for the third time...)

A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind.



All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points:
1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything.
2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant.
3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him.
4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all.

In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand.

Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now.

##Vote geript



His first vote in this game is thought out and much more thoroughly explained. He makes no attempt at all to gain approval from the thread or ask anyones opinion.
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 31 2014 21:12 GMT
#720
geript scum list is likely 3 towns so thats another reason
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