I think he's mafia since D2. At EoD D2 super was the only vote on him however, and I didn't want to shenanny onto super but onto Robik, and JAT and KElsier didn't want to shenanny onto Robik but onto super. The shenanny option was opened after JAT posted the D1 votecount which implied gript wasn't as liekly scum as I thought he was.

JAT flipped town, Kelsier idk what he is at this point.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 08 2015 11:10 GMT

#6264

On January 08 2015 20:03 Palmar wrote:

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On January 08 2015 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:

On January 08 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:

On January 08 2015 19:36 DarthPunk wrote:
The following posts both look garbage to me. Very wishy-washy, and I can't seem to empathize with the conclusions he does draw.

Palmar, admits himself that he has a strong day one but these posts feel fake and obligatory.

On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?

I'll catch up with the rest later.

geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.

Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.

DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.

Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".

Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.

I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.

Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.

Then he tunnels geript for a bit and does nothing I really like.

This post seems more likely to come from scum at the start of the game also, just because scum are more likely to feel demotivated early in my experience, conversely a townie who believes he has caught scum is much less likely to feel demotivated.

On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not.

If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly.

You have to read in context.

I wanted to lynch geript. I got a wagon going on geript, when I went to sleep geript was the leading candidate for a lynch. However when I woke up town had voteswitched on to batsnacks (and not Vivax as I had suggested) and killed him. This led me to being extremely frustrated as I didn't even know people were considering batsnacks as a lynch target and I had read batsnacks as town.

Cool, so why were your first large posts on day one such wishy-washy inconclusive garbage when you are known for having strong day ones and I personally think you are an excellent player?

What benefit did you wish to gain by creating that list post? why did you call DrH probably town?

They're not inconclusive garbage. In fact, me hedging half my calls with wording like "very slight leaning town read" is probably the biggest tell that I am town this game.

However I also wouldn't expect just about anyone to understand that.

It's basically me trying not to be wrong, or if I am wrong have something to point to "hey look, I told you I just called him town for this small thing, not my fault he didn't end up being town". If I was mafia I'd be far more confident in my reads, or so I think, at least.

And the list post was basically me trying to do useful stuff. I decided to punch in what I was thinking at that point in the game.

and I already explained why I called DrH town.

this post is reasonable. I can't remember who it was but there was a game recently where someone made this long, terrible case on me, quoting a bunch of posts where i'm umming and ahhing.

Vivax

22422 Posts

January 08 2015 11:10 GMT

#6265

That vote from super was probably just wifom though since he felt confident Robik wouldn't get lynched.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

January 08 2015 11:11 GMT

#6266

On January 08 2015 20:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Palmar do you still think damdred is mafia?

Yes.

And I don't think his vote on superbia on day 2 says much about him.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 08 2015 11:11 GMT

#6267

On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4.

##Vote: Ritoky

this is like certainly a "I don't want to do anything, i'm going to park my vote on my scumbuddy" post. Pretty sure people have said this before.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

January 08 2015 11:12 GMT

#6268

Also it's amazing how often it's correct that the guy who does his own thing in the voting is mafia. I pointed it out with superbia.

DarthPunk

Australia10859 Posts

January 08 2015 11:13 GMT

#6269

On January 08 2015 20:08 KelsierSC wrote:

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read the thread

Well if YOU had read the thread you would quite clearly see me state that I was not going to read the thread.

Kids these days.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 08 2015 11:13 GMT

#6270

so you replace in and dont read the thread

yay

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 08 2015 11:14 GMT

#6271

no-one can read a 300p thread. that's masochistic.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 08 2015 11:15 GMT

#6272

well on that note, maybe if i replaced in i would read it

Vivax

22422 Posts

January 08 2015 11:15 GMT

#6273

On January 08 2015 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:
so you replace in and dont read the thread

yay

I want to see you read 300 pages just like that.
I'd probably just read filters and the latest day.

DP I feel like you're the hero we've been needing.

Can you tell me what we should do if marv is alive D4 without leading a lynch on scum?

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 08 2015 11:15 GMT

#6274

so he is just useless basically

Vivax

22422 Posts

January 08 2015 11:16 GMT

#6275

Marv just claimed he likes to get whipped from people who wear gimp suits.

DarthPunk

Australia10859 Posts

January 08 2015 11:16 GMT

#6276

On January 08 2015 20:15 KelsierSC wrote:
so he is just useless basically

I've probably already been more useful than you have babe <3

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

January 08 2015 11:16 GMT

#6277

On January 08 2015 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:
so you replace in and dont read the thread

yay

I haven't read half the thread and been here since day 1.

And anyone claiming to have actually read ever page attentively is full of shit.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 08 2015 11:17 GMT

#6278

On January 08 2015 20:16 Vivax wrote:
Marv just claimed he likes to get whipped from people who wear gimp suits.

na, not into the outfits :p

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 08 2015 11:17 GMT

#6279

basically LM can't give a read on who is cop because it totally fucks him.

If he says Robik is cop then he can't explain why he aligns with ritoky and pushed on Dam and he has to read robik as cop tomorrow

if he says Ritoky is cop he can't explain why he was so fine with a ritoky lynch yesterday and said he would be fine with a ritoky lynch

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 08 2015 11:20 GMT

#6280

On January 08 2015 20:17 KelsierSC wrote:
basically LM can't give a read on who is cop because it totally fucks him.

If he says Robik is cop then he can't explain why he aligns with ritoky and pushed on Dam and he has to read robik as cop tomorrow

if he says Ritoky is cop he can't explain why he was so fine with a ritoky lynch yesterday and said he would be fine with a ritoky lynch

this is really interesting, i'll go corroborate myself at lunch or something.