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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 08 2015 10:25 GMT
#6221
On January 08 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
judging by the rest of that post, no ^^

The JAT thing was basically me trolling/venting/trying to shit on jat/riling him up

I think I even clarified before dawn that I didn't actually think JAT was mafia.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:26 GMT
#6222
o.o
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 08 2015 10:26 GMT
#6223
On January 08 2015 19:25 Palmar wrote:
marv your main mission is to clear me so people don't do dumb shit.

Could you do that for me please?


Why did you say that DrH was 'probably town' at the very start of the game?

And what was with the big list posts at the start?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 08 2015 10:27 GMT
#6224
On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:18 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote:
yo.

What are we doing?


Writing bash scripts.

What you are doing is a better question. Get onto geript and off my ass.

If you can explain in less than 300 words why geript is mafia.


This looks worse for Vivax now. I don't think he actually knew why we were pushing geript at the time.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:27 GMT
#6225
if you're town, I know you'll do a good enough job defending yourself not to get lynched.

lynch should only be in one place tomorrow anyways, and that's not you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:28 GMT
#6226
On January 08 2015 19:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2015 07:18 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote:
yo.

What are we doing?


Writing bash scripts.

What you are doing is a better question. Get onto geript and off my ass.

If you can explain in less than 300 words why geript is mafia.


This looks worse for Vivax now. I don't think he actually knew why we were pushing geript at the time.

he quite enjoyed pushing me even though he had no idea what your case was as well. although i kinda think that's more personal than alignment indicative... :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 08 2015 10:28 GMT
#6227
On January 08 2015 19:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 19:25 Palmar wrote:
marv your main mission is to clear me so people don't do dumb shit.

Could you do that for me please?


Why did you say that DrH was 'probably town' at the very start of the game?

And what was with the big list posts at the start?

Did I say that at the very start?

I think my read on him came based on the same thing Robik said day 1. That no matter if Chyz (now chezinu) is town or mafia, it really looked like DrH genuinely believed his read on Chyz.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 08 2015 10:30 GMT
#6228
On January 08 2015 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
if you're town, I know you'll do a good enough job defending yourself not to get lynched.

lynch should only be in one place tomorrow anyways, and that's not you

Yes, I am certain that you (no matter your alignment) will be convinced if I get forced to defend myself. As I have weaknesses in mafia, I have a few strengths as well, one of them being defending against being mislynched (although a better strength would be to not get into the situation where I have to defend myself)...

The problem is I don't trust the rest of this crowd. The lynch inertia is strong.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 08 2015 10:32 GMT
#6229
On January 08 2015 19:25 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
judging by the rest of that post, no ^^

The JAT thing was basically me trolling/venting/trying to shit on jat/riling him up

I think I even clarified before dawn that I didn't actually think JAT was mafia.


See! proof!

On January 03 2015 08:18 Palmar wrote:

I was mostly trolling, or I guess venting, with the JAT thing. Don't lynch him automatically, but make sure that if he does more dumb shit you do.

Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
January 08 2015 10:35 GMT
#6230
Just woke up and read the flip. Good shit.

Then I read that Robik thinks I look better now. I have no fucking idea why. I refused to shenanny onto super D2 and D3 I actually decided ritoky looked worse before he claimed cop, so if anything I should look mega mafia to robik right now.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6231
The following posts both look garbage to me. Very wishy-washy, and I can't seem to empathize with the conclusions he does draw.

Palmar, admits himself that he has a strong day one but these posts feel fake and obligatory.

On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?

I'll catch up with the rest later.

geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.

Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.

DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.

Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".

Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.

I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.

Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.


Then he tunnels geript for a bit and does nothing I really like.

This post seems more likely to come from scum at the start of the game also, just because scum are more likely to feel demotivated early in my experience, conversely a townie who believes he has caught scum is much less likely to feel demotivated.

On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not.

If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly.


Just a few thoughts from the very little I have read this evening.

Marv you recently mentioned someone as being the right target to lynch (or something to that effect) can you tell me who that is so I can read their filter?

Thanks.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6232
Proof, ish

right now I'm enjoying ritoky's return to the thread on p303. he's admirably persistent
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6233
On January 08 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 18:12 KelsierSC wrote:
LM who do you think the cop is?

what's the use in asking this?

right, i best go read what i missed


because I am trying to figure out who the mafia is wtf

Zerg for Life
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6234
one sec DP
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 08 2015 10:36 GMT
#6235
why do we have replacements at this point that is ridiculous
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 08 2015 10:37 GMT
#6236
LM tell me who the cop is

Zerg for Life
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:37 GMT
#6237
it is absurd replacing someone into a 300 page game, yes, but let's deal with what we have.

DP: you really need to read from the bottom of p284 for about 15-20 pages (i know, but it's a quick read) if you read almost nothing else this game for a while
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 10:38 GMT
#6238
On January 08 2015 19:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 18:12 KelsierSC wrote:
LM who do you think the cop is?

what's the use in asking this?

right, i best go read what i missed


because I am trying to figure out who the mafia is wtf


there are about seven thousand million, five hundred thousand and forty nine better ways of finding mafia than cop-hunting in the night phase. Just sayin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 08 2015 10:38 GMT
#6239
This is the other post I was referring to above.

On January 02 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote:
Alright, let's talk business. I've read up to page 30 so anything that happens after that I have no idea about.

Artanis is best town. I feel fairly confident in this read. I don't think anyone is calling him mafia so I don't think I need to cite any examples really.

KelsierSC is probably town too. I particularly thought his sarcastic post towards.... idontremember, the one marv quoted, was okay. Less confident but still, no reason to even consider lynching today. Also, he articulated some of the problems I had with geript's posting until that point.

DrH is very likely town. I highly agree with Robik that he seems to genuinely believe he's onto something with this chyz read. He's constantly pushing it, almost forcing it down people's throat. If chyz is town (which I very well think might tbe the case) DrH is not the mafia on his wagon.

Robik I'm not entirely sure about, but the simple fact that he pointed out things I was already thinking about DrH makes him more likely to be town than mafia. I don't think we need to lynch him today.

Batsnacks is sort of meh whatever, but at least he is quite unapologetic about his lazy posting. Maybe a very, very slight lean town read.

TheChyz is the hardest read in this game. Everything he says sounds like he's mafia, which probably makes him town. He posts a bit like nb or something. Lacks confidence and his reads are all very meh. I think the main reason I don't want to lynch him is the thing Artanis pointed out where he started his defense by talking about the only player defending him. Like this guy could very well be mafia but starsenses are telling me I should not lynch him today. If he's mafia, I'm simply gonna look for the other mafia instead.

@Chyz: if you're town, step up bro.

Koshi is another hard read. So I actually don't think Chyz needs to be lynched, and if I had to answer now I'd guess Chyz is town. However, Koshi had an unnaturally strong read on Chyz as town. Like I felt like he should have had no business thinking Chyz is town at that point. But then Koshi kept talking to Artanis (I think it was artanis...) and I started feeling less bad about him as he posted more. I'd say I lean slightly town on him, but I don't feel very confident on it.

Lazermonkey: I initially thought he was okay, but I see now multiple people want to call him mafia in the last pages before 30. He's probably the guy I need to re-read out of the people I have opinions on. He pushed Chyz which I feel is ok, after all, everything Chyz says sounds like mafia talking. But maybe he's just sort of piling on. He's null and maybe even leaning mafia. I don't know.

Damdred is up and down. I actually agreed with the people that said mafia damdred wouldn't open with a joke mafia claim. But he's also been fairly shit in the thread, and the fact he suspected DrH over Ritoky there in that post was kind of odd. He's probably a slightly leaning mafia guy.

Eden1892 started off weird (with the stuff with DrH), but he kept posting and kept raising his status. I think he's more likely to be town than mafia. I can't exactly remember when the flip happened (I initially thought he was kinda mafia) but I'm okay with him for now.

Ritoky is a complete mystery to me. He tried to bury DrH with completely asinine reasoning. Like he's gotta be a complete moron to think DrH's policies would apply to a joke somewhere in the game. However, this is so dumb I'm not even sure it has to come from mafia, it might just be ritoky jumping some random shit he saw. I have no idea what his alignment is.

Marv, because of the two reads above I don't actually feel all that good about marv. I do expect to mislynch him some game in the close future, because I am almost 100% certain marv wants to play a town game where he posts little, just so he can do so in the future and so playing mafia isn't as painful to him. However I now disagree with the things I said about Eden, or well, I think his subsequent posts made him look better, so marv agreeing with me was kinda off, and I also don't think we can read too much into the ritoky thing. Also, if marv actually had found something, I'd think he wanted to push it. Re-reading lazermonkey and seeing if marv saying he could lynch him is justifiable will help with reading marv. For now he's sort of maybe slightly kinda leaning scum.

JAT. Parroting other players. Does it as both alignments, no idea what he is. Don't particularly care for now.

Geript. We lynch this man today. He is the one in the aftermath of DrH's case on Chyz that came off as mafia. First of all he seemed to immediately make a "mental note" that Chyz was newb town. There was, at the time, nothing in the thread that suggested Chyz was town. There were reasons to wait and see, but to say he's town is way over the top. Also, in the following discussion, I feel like unlike Koshi, geript did basically nothing to actually advance his read or influence anyone to follow him. It's the difference of passively "being right" (in case chyz is town) and aggressively defending him (like koshi did). Add in what I said earlier about how his posting was fairly clean and he was appealing to veterans and I actually want to lynch him.

sicklucker. I had a thought on him but I don't remember. Probably mafia because his posts are so boring I don't even remember them. But I'll reread later and decide. Could very well be town with little time.

Superbia, GB, Vivax and RoL haven't basically posted at all, so here is a wisdom nugget. Out of the lurker list (those 4), you should shoot RoL. Just trust me on this one. If we have a vigilante, shoot the fuck out of RoL.

##Vote Geript



Don't like it.

And you can't blame this on lynch inertia Palmar because I haven't read the thread at all, only 3 pages or so of your filter
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 08 2015 10:42 GMT
#6240
Maybe a good way of solving replacements would be to grant a one shot medic save for every townie modkilled for inactivity.

And an Extra shot for every Scum modkilled or something.

Cause there is no way in hell I am reading this game so far and marv is right about me replacing in to a three hundred page game being absurd. I should Have actually looked at the thread before I answered the post in the player replacement thread.

There is no way I would have agreed. Oh well.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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