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On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote:
like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread?
This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful.
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On January 04 2015 08:15 geript wrote:
Gotta pay the drive home. The Eden kill means there's a vet mafia. Vivax doesn't count. He's been around for a while but no reason to not go for 2 get NK as (if he's the only one) vivax has no thread pull. When there are unexpected NKs there's a reason for it. Eden being (universally) townread doesn't explain it best option is that both were medic dodges. It suggests that the NK plan for tonight is JAT plus get or double vet. Likely the former. Maybe a blue snipe though.
Didn't you say Koshi was the most obvious medic save earlier? How is he a medic dodge now?
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On January 04 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote:On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns? i'm not sure exactly what you mean? I will translate for you: "Why don't jat and dandred want to use retarded logic to say that people are 100 % town when they clearly aren't?" They dont have to agree 100%. But if there town like artanis they should realize it at least makes him likely town but you dispute even that and call me an idiot
I will call you and idiot when you do idiotic things dude. That's life.
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On January 04 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
Ty for confirming marv as town.
Ready for me to call you an idiot again?
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On January 04 2015 08:26 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On January 04 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote:
marv is still mafia too, his reads are really lazy and stale.
still think it's:
SL
marv
vivax
vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up Why are you bein so lazy ritoky? You did no vote analysis on what happened yesterday and no thought process sabout whats going on now? You said SL is mafia but you have vivax down but you vote SL over vivax who is the vote leader? Shouldn't you be happy with whats going on? What are you doing? i am like 50 pages behind; and i think someone is confirmed mafia and want to lynch him because it is plain as day and every1 has the wool over their eyes. i am less sure on vivax, plus marv is voting on him and marv is mafia. so just lynch SL who is 99% mafia first. voting analysis is hard when there's 1 vote. i will post it colored for myself soon when i catch up in the thread.
Cool then shut up and catch up. You can contribute then.
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On January 04 2015 08:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
At least vivax is trying?
Wtffff what does that matter if your scumread on him is real. Gee. You think maybe a scum with 6 votes on him.might consider trying something.
Also Vivax got strangely quiet since people started questioning others.
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On January 04 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
List of people I would lynch today if I had enough lynches:
Superbia
Vivax
Geript
Robik
Maybe GlowingBear too. He's been mentioned a few times as well but no one's actually bothered to check into him as far as I can see.
Not the worst lynch in my eyes.
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On January 04 2015 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
Scummy
super
gb
ritoky
dandred
vivax/gerit
Then when mafia doesint kill palmer or jat we can kill them because their probably mafia if their not night killed by then.
I dont really want to lynch between gerit and vivax because I highly doubt their both mafia so that gives us a 50% chance of a mislynch. If we lynch someone like gb or ritoky I feel thats a much higher percentage kill and there also not contributing. Does this not make sense? I would like responses.
And marv is not mafia if he isn't nightkilled by then, hm?
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Calm down geript. It is probably some completely useless stuff that he is talking about.
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On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote:On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore.
Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways.
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On January 04 2015 10:29 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote:On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times.
You didn't play in even a single one of my scumgames. I hard carried as town before and I have been NK'd night 1 multiple times. Not that this is in any shape or form relevant to this game.
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On January 04 2015 10:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:31 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 10:29 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote:On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times. You didn't play in even a single one of my scumgames. I hard carried as town before and I have been NK'd night 1 multiple times. Not that this is in any shape or form relevant to this game. OH ITS RELEVANT! ITS RELEVANT JAT!!!
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On January 04 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
However the high volume low content style still bothers me and all the stuff I mentioned still is sound in my memory so on the backburner for now.
If you want me to even start reconsidering this lynch you need to stop posting dumb shit like this. Didn't you say yourself that I seem to always post like this as town? Then why the fuck is it bothering you.
On January 05 2015 00:08 Vivax wrote:Marv might be mafia just based on filter size he should be around 20 at EoD 2. Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 06:01 geript wrote:
Meh, whatever Marv. I'm really hungry and don't feel like posting 4 pages on how you're scum. You are. Congrats you got me lynched; well Koshi got me lynched.
Here's a tl;dr version that people need to sheep:
1. Read on Robik is fucking terrible. Robik is scum
2. No interactions with Koshi--normally these two are absolutely fucking hilarious to play with
3. Not fun; little to no sarcasm, wit, or fun factor that makes Marv fun to play with
4. Wouldn't read me like he does. He'd be more scared to lynch into me (looking elsewhere first) and less sure on his read on me.
5. Marv wouldn't fear lynch on D1
6. Really fucking terrible list post.
@Artanis, Palmer and Doc. Look at Marv. He's not right. Doc get your head screwed on straight and actually think about the game critically. I'm pretty sure your read on Chyz is wrong.
Town:
Artanis[XP]--Not as active as I'd like. But I'm prettty sure he's town
DoctorHelvetica--Way off track
Palmar--First time he's read me wrong as town. lolz
TheChyz--He's just new. But he's town.
Damdred--He's town. But force him to post a bunch tomorrow because he notices some good things here and there
justanothertownie
sicklucker--I initially had him below this in the unsure pile. But I had a townread on him when I read him before I slept. Cursory view of his meta points towards town; that said, it's not wholly applicable because of different game situations imo.
Unsure but active pile:
batsnacks--of these two, bat is the most likely to be mafia.
KelsierSC--felt towny but i forget why
GTFO:
RebirthOfLeGenD
Superbia
Vivax
GlowingBear
Mafia lean:
Eden1892--Went ham but not fully ham. Then drops ham and never goes back to ham land. Really odd start.
ritoky -- He townread me at a weird point. His read on Robik was pretty weird. Marv wants to lynch him but doesn't really follow up on it.
Koshi --Could be wrong here
Mafia:
Marvellosity
IAmRobik
Lazermonkey--From a cursory view of his past 3-4 games Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 14:02 Alakaslam wrote:I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia TheChyz (2): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshigeript (6): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, [s]sicklucker[s/], [s]Eden1892[s/], batsnacks marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, BatsnacksIAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched.
until deadline. Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 14:17 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 13:51 KelsierSC wrote:On January 04 2015 13:23 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 13:12 KelsierSC wrote:
geript did you give your thoughts on the people who are potential lynches today/
that feels important to me and I can't remember what you said.
oh yeh GB do that too please.
Filters exist for a reason brah. give me your thoughts on SL, viv , Dam, Robik ...brah SL who knows. Maybe he's a noob, but there's really not a point in thinking about him unless there's a counter claim or he lives for 2-3 days and there's not a missing NK. Odds are he's actually the cop and is using the role poorly Vivax--The reasons I've seen brought up against him made me think he was worth voting for on D1. His posts haven't inspired me and I haven't seen the unique Vivax perspective that I usually see when he's town; plus his posts have been more logic/reason based which is usually what I see from him as mafia. That's said, DrH's comment summarizing Vivax's play I don't find alignment indicative as he does that as town (not sure if he also does it as mafia). All that said, I haven't really gotten past page 2 on his filter every time I open it because I get bored. Good chance for being scum. Damdred--I thought he was blue and cop by how he's playing. A few points have been made about him that caught my eye because they're things I associate with his mafia play (less active, more passive play, less "in the trenches", etc.). That said, he's made a few good points which I don't think he would if he were town. Maybe I just misread him as blue. I think he's town but I'm less sure than I was yesterday. Robik--I've absolutely hated Robik's D2. It's been pretty bad. He makes no useful points and just posts a bunch of crap. Unfortunately, that's my experience of his town play. He also has a pretty large filter and he's, from my understanding, a renowned pussy when he's mafia (I'm less sure of this honestly). There are a lot of points that vote both ways, but overall I think he's town, but I'd put that just barely. GB--I think this guys's town. I talked with Artanis some about him. Maybe we disagree, but if Vivax is mafia, then GB has a higher percentage of being with him for being too right as he's not a player who in my experience has been reasonably accurate with his reads. VE--Feels very town VE to me. IDK, can't really explain it but I've played with him a bunch. The largest counterpoint to this is that as of late as mafia he's been less active and more lazy aiming more for not being lynched than his previous active scum game. LM--Has an apparent greencheck on him. Worth considering 90% accurate unless SL flips not blue, there's a CC or what not. Marv--I'm guessing is town. I've been super wafflecone on this guy and in writing this, I'm realizing that at least some of my town reads have to be wrong Kels--I thought you were town. But I haven't really played a bunch of games to have a great read on you. Superbia--He's been flat out wrong about my meta from Russian, super inactive and just overall has no care to play. I don't think I've ever really managed to get a read on him and the games I've played with him he's either been super town or managed to get himself lynched at some point. For some reason I think he might be less active as mafia in general but honestly I have no clue how correct that actually is. Palmer--has a history of being scum when I role town. I honestly have never had a good clue as to what his alignment is. He'll bus as mafia; he'll generally be less active as mafia. But this game is in a weird situation (NYE into weekend) that he coudl just be MIA town at points. I just really enjoy his snark and how fun he makes the game. Lynch him later on at some point I think. DrH--None of what he's actually done has been productive. I don't know how honest he's being in his apology. He can be town who's just been overzealous, biased and tunneled or he could be mafia just playing to win. Don't Lynch Pool: Damdred GlowingBear Geript Artanis[XP] Lazermonkey Marvellosity justanothertownie IAmRobik sicklucker VisceraEyes KelsierSC IDK Pool: Palmer Lynch Pool: TheChyz Vivax ritoky DoctorHelvetica Superbia Overall, Kelsier, Damdred, GB, LM and JAT are my weakest Don't Lynch reads. The Lynch pool is essentialy PoE. I still expect at least one Vet to be mafia but as to which one in specific the best bet I think is Palmer. He'd read Eden as town; DrH I don't think allows those kills to go through. Not sure why, but they don't quite suit what I've read of his mafia play (I've never seen him as mafia in a large game I've played in). I don't want to hyperbolize this by bolding red but if you look at the parts I marked, don't you see how all of this doesn't seem to make sense?
This post is better. Geripts line of thought here makes no sense to me.
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This is so annoying. Palmar and marv both should be pushing a lynch today. Palmar doesn't do shit and it's not even alignment indicative because it is weekend and marv... I don't know maybe he is just scum.
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Like marv, if you are town and actually trying to be less towny on purpose like you said you would recently then that needs to stop right now.
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On January 05 2015 01:00 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax wtf is wrong with you. Discredit me when im trying to steer the lynch off you.
I ask lazermonkey for his reads because their really important to me.
Leaning scum on ksc now. He tried to brush off his cc as a joke but it was not. He should think im the cop.
I took your claim as a joke too. KSC only played along. This is a really dumb reason to scumread him.
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On January 05 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote:
Na in my first game he did the same thing and got the cop killed on day 1. Its what he does, here hes lieing about it tho so hes probable mafia. When his scum read claims cop he doesint believe it and he counter claims theres legit meta here. Ill reread it but it looked pretty legit at the time.
Yeah, but he was town in that game, wasn't he? So what is the point?
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I will probably post some kind of list soon. I start working again tomorrow so it absolutely impossible for me to push a lynch later today. I will try to wake up an hour before deadline or something like that and see what's up but that is all I can do.
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On January 05 2015 01:08 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 01:04 KelsierSC wrote:On January 05 2015 01:00 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax wtf is wrong with you. Discredit me when im trying to steer the lynch off you.
I ask lazermonkey for his reads because their really important to me.
Leaning scum on ksc now. He tried to brush off his cc as a joke but it was not. He should think im the cop. Yeh you don't believe what you are saying. If he thinks your scum he can give his read , what is wrong with that If hes town and hes losing a vote like 10-2 and im trying to get votes on the other guy how am I not town from his pov? Its very suspicious so yes I can believe what im saying and you should too.
How is it suspicious? Do you think that's a good strat as scum? You are making 0 sense yet again.
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