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On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.
Quick thought list
I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.
Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. He did? where?
Take a look into his filter and you will find it.
Artanis, you around?
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On January 04 2015 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Robik is looking pretty bad. Maybe worse than Vivax. Still want to lynch Superbia more because his constant check-ins and then not doing anythings are annoying. Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.
Quick thought list
I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.
Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. He did? where? Take a look into his filter and you will find it. Artanis, you around? Hai.
On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find it weird how Palmar/Robik/Vivax all jumped on JAT at pretty much the same time. I have a retarded theory about that that I can only share post-night. Agreed with Marv that especially Vivax' case was reaching. Palmar's feels genuine. I remember him making a post about making no shenannies at night. Unfortunately, I'm a bad boy.
Could you explain this now?
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On January 04 2015 05:53 Superbia wrote:Let's start off on the big post by ritoky, and why it's (and by relation, he is) very mafia: Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:
note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted
koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile
gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile
*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*
artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile
lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile
marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile
^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^
*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*
thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile
palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile
damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile
*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*
SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile
vivax - no post
*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*
ritoky - town jesus
drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile
eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile
*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*
superbia - no post
Post comes in half-way through the day and he feels confident enough placing everyone in either a mafia or a town pile. Notice how there is literally no town-paranoia whatsoever in this post. This fucking screams TMI/mafia.
No, it really doesn't. Ritoky may very well be scum but not for this. Try harder. How about some opinions on the people who have been discussed today?
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On January 04 2015 06:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:03 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Robik is looking pretty bad. Maybe worse than Vivax. Still want to lynch Superbia more because his constant check-ins and then not doing anythings are annoying. On January 04 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.
Quick thought list
I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.
Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. He did? where? Take a look into his filter and you will find it. Artanis, you around? Hai. On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find it weird how Palmar/Robik/Vivax all jumped on JAT at pretty much the same time. I have a retarded theory about that that I can only share post-night. Agreed with Marv that especially Vivax' case was reaching. Palmar's feels genuine. I remember him making a post about making no shenannies at night. Unfortunately, I'm a bad boy.
Could you explain this now? Oh right. I figured that there might be scum in there trying to incriminate you long enough for a medic to decide not to heal you that night so they could shoot you. Guess I was wrong since 2 people died and none of them were you.
lol, ok
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On January 04 2015 06:06 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:40 IAmRobik wrote:
im telling you that youre playing bad and your constantpressure ofme is out of place especially if yiu think vivaxis scum Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players. let's start with: what reads of mine do you disagree with?
Give me a summary and I will say so. My problem with you so far is that you aren't doing town Robik stuff and until very recently it looked like you still scumread me.
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Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting.
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On January 04 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Speak of the devil.
Why are you bringing that up now? It's been 2 days and he explained it by saying he forced himself to choose between a town/scum read. I think it's a shit explanation but I don't think that makes him very mafia. Don't care about his explanation, I'm expecting the post to have some sort of paranoia in it, especially if you're forcing yourself to choose. I bring it up now because I only have time to elaborate on it now (admittedly, I had some time last night, but decided to afk out the night instead).
I think it could maybe be helpful if you made a list or something like that. I won't be scumreading you for making the list itself I promise.
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On January 04 2015 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting. Can you elaborate on that?
I will. Let him post some more.
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On January 04 2015 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 06:06 IAmRobik wrote:On January 04 2015 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 05:40 IAmRobik wrote:
im telling you that youre playing bad and your constantpressure ofme is out of place especially if yiu think vivaxis scum Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players. let's start with: what reads of mine do you disagree with? Give me a summary and I will say so. My problem with you so far is that you aren't doing town Robik stuff and until very recently it looked like you still scumread me. if vivax is town, that becomes a very likely scenario. my reads are something along the lines of: me town artanis town marv probably town superbia maf ritoky maf vivax maf drh was town but fell off today -- explained by work, but whatever. We'll see what he comes up with in following days. that's about where i'm at. Eden was quite obviously my biggest town read yesterday, followed closely by DrH. DrH is probably still town, but like, it's annoying that he has fallen off so hard. I did my standard town!robik stuff in defending them adamantly against all stupid questions and pushes. I found Koshi weird yesterday. I thought he came out too hard after the bats lynch, but i guess I was wrong on that. I don't knoow how hard I pushed against vivax d1, but I definitely read him as scummier than most. I'd have to go through the rest of the filter and the rest of the player list. Oh, there's plmammmmar, who i was claling scummy too. he made 1 fucking post and everyone splooged over it and i thoought it was a gross overreaction to his one post.
Explain the marv read and the Vivax read please. I still have no idea why you think he is scum besides that Koshi thought so.
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On January 04 2015 06:16 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:On January 04 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Speak of the devil.
Why are you bringing that up now? It's been 2 days and he explained it by saying he forced himself to choose between a town/scum read. I think it's a shit explanation but I don't think that makes him very mafia. Don't care about his explanation, I'm expecting the post to have some sort of paranoia in it, especially if you're forcing yourself to choose. I bring it up now because I only have time to elaborate on it now (admittedly, I had some time last night, but decided to afk out the night instead). I think it could maybe be helpful if you made a list or something like that. I won't be scumreading you for making the list itself I promise. I only have a read on like 2 people.
Then read some filters and get more.
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On January 04 2015 06:20 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 04 2015 06:17 Superbia wrote:On January 04 2015 06:15 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote:
Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik? Because you didn't do shit the entirety of phase 1, is my guess. It's why I wanted to lynch you today yesterday. Does that make me mafia? Am I talking about voting for you today? I was fucking asking Robik to begin with.
Unwarranted.
Marv, could you summarize your reads for me? I don't get the feeling that you are really trying to figure anyone out tbh.
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On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax. Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument
Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken.
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On January 04 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting. what's that?
Let us hear some more of his reads first.
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On January 04 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax. Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken. So now it's your turn...why are my reads off? Why do you think I'm not trying this game? Maybe I'm not as verbose or articulate, but I don't think I ever am really. I wasn't confident d1 based off of NYE and not being able to participate really, but I was around enough to actually make a vote that could possibly matter. In fact, I think the reasoning that I gave for sheeping you wasn't all that bad either.
I guess your reads aren't the worst but they aren't many either. Meh.
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Marv, why are you dodging me and Artanis?
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On January 04 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 07:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When 6 people vote immediately I tend to think "confident" "hes town cause he already has this read"
Scum feel the need to say hey wait a minute guys....we all know there is a lot of time left today. Many other things are being discussed. Who is in a huff about an afk lynch? The least active people in this thread are all people not voting for vivax lol I disagree with this pretty much entirely. Piling up votes on someone minutes into a day favor mafia especially, they can hide their votes without participating it gives town the incentive to not really look at anything else that is going on, (lazy aspect of town) this leads to complacency. we probably will disagree with each other, but an afk lynch is a bad lynch 100% of the time.
How is it an afk lynch though? Not that this argument impresses me in any way.
On January 04 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why do you think Robik's town though? His eod vote. If gerits town robiks 100% town no reason to make that switch in a two town race bad players see that as scummy . Even if gerits not town its not that likely robik would throw in that preemptive vote to keep his partner from getting hammered because no one wanted to change at the time but it is possible just alot less likely. Robik can be confirmed with a gerit flip so we never kill robik before him anyway. Marv was the first to defend me so I give him mad town points hes been pretty useful regardless of his filter size. The one problem I have with him is I feel him and palmer are always mafia together and palmers looking like shit.
Nothing in this post makes any fucking sense. If geript is town Robik is most certainly not 100 % town. What is this retarded logic. Robik is not confirmed regardless of geripts flip. Marv was not very useful at all and there is no reason why Palmar and Marv should be tied together.
On January 04 2015 07:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript - Vivax
sicklucker
damdred - glowingbear
Is my best guess atm. Sorted by confidence of read in tiers
So Robik is town?
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On January 04 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I could list plenty of people I'm unsure of. If you want my town reads its you, marv, artanis.
Sicklucker forgot about geript again now that the heat is on his other teammate
Why are you so sure about marv?
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On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Well I dont think it clears jat actually. He could just be setting up the next mislynch so no. He honestly didnt give it much effort it was eden and others that lead bats to getting kill. He kind of just had a thowaway vote on bats seeing what sticks which makes him pretty scummy if gerit is. And the fact he doesint want to see a gerit flip
lol
If I am not starting this batsnacks wagon he is NEVER going to be lynched. Never.
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On January 04 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Well I dont think it clears jat actually. He could just be setting up the next mislynch so no. He honestly didnt give it much effort it was eden and others that lead bats to getting kill. He kind of just had a thowaway vote on bats seeing what sticks which makes him pretty scummy if gerit is. And the fact he doesint want to see a gerit flip What? JAT set up the lynch on Bats. JAT made it happen. JAT and no one else. He earned that townie lynch with blood, sweat and tears and he deserves the credit.
amen
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On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns? i'm not sure exactly what you mean?
I will translate for you:
"Why don't jat and dandred want to use retarded logic to say that people are 100 % town when they clearly aren't?"
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