Also, I wanna remind everyone how little marv was involved today except arguing with me to come to the conclusion that he's still waffling on my alignment.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:22 GMT

#8103

On January 14 2015 10:22 sicklucker wrote:
Dp doesint freakin count.

Why not?

In my opinion he was smarter than most of you. I miss him sorely.

I would never have allowed my team to shoot him if I am scum and marv is town.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:26 GMT

#8109

On January 14 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:

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LOL NO?
THE GUY REPLACED IN A THREAD 300 PAGES LONG AND GOT SHOT
GOT SHOT
GOT SHOT
GOT SHOOOOOOOOOT

BEFORE ALL OF US.

To be fair he was green checked by cop.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:28 GMT

#8114

what's the votecount right now?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:35 GMT

#8128

okay, Jesus told me to lynch LM

This is final. good night

## vote Lazermonkey

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:37 GMT

#8134

On January 14 2015 10:37 Palmar wrote:

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@artanis:

If I'm wrong on marv, and we assume you me and sl are town (which is quite likely), mafia didn't touch the vivax wagon until quite late (probably when it was dead).

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:39 GMT

#8138

On January 14 2015 10:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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It actually worries me how many people are suddenly willing to vote LM.

yes, and I'm voting with all the people who I think might be mafia.

But, I don't make associative reads, I cannot exactly trust my reads this game. LM fits the mold of a player I ignore because he's so under the radar (remember, I always do this). Damdred kinda did, but the simple fact damdred actually said I was mafia, read my day today, decided "hey palmar is playing like a townie, maybe he is town" and ran with it makes me feel better about him.

Maybe I'm a victim of buddying.

I don't know.

I'm going to trust Jesus on this one.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:40 GMT

#8139

On January 14 2015 10:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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35 page filter and he has reads you just can't make up as scum. You just can't.

Yes, if you read what I've been saying I've been calling him town all day for that.

I just wanted to point this out.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:41 GMT

#8141

also marv is 100% capable of bussing. Like if he thinks there is any chance he or lm end up being the lynch today, he doesn't hesitate to just go for the long game and bus.

I don't want to talk myself out of lynch based on who else is voting.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 01:44 GMT

#8145

fuck this I'm sleeping 5 hours tonight

you all suck.

if I die, sorry I sucked this game. It happens every once in a while

Trust jesus.

Hell, you probably shouldn't read too much into my reads (but don't forget about uninterested marv).

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 14 2015 08:50 GMT

#8426

gg?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 17 2015 15:16 GMT

#10103

sicklucker's fakeclaim was awful. It's always awful to lie when you're town. You distract other townies from doing their jobs with that kind of shit.

On January 17 2015 20:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
I dunno. Its possible you would've nailed everyone if you were town. I never really care too much about meta arguments, maybe I should?

Like I kept bringing up you being less present and less involved than you should've been, but at the same time, someone said that you said you would try to keep down your town play in a previous game? To me, this seems like an WIFOM argument to use against you, no? If we got lynched, then we would've all looked cool and stuff, but if you were town, this would not be the case.

Compare it to Palmar, another high profile player, who was very uninvolved. Was it the correct decision to lynch him? I mean, OBVIOUSLY NOY because he was town. But thats why I kinda dislike that type of argument in general.

Not caring about meta is fine. My basis for scumreading Damdred was NOT meta. Also you're falling into the trap of looking at WHAT people are doing instead of HOW they are doing it.

Yes, I wasn't around. I have a family I like to spend my weekends with and new years was off for me too. Additionally I don't play on pointless days (like the ritoky lynch, it was automatic). However WHEN I was around I was super actively pushing my own things, thinking critically about the game, aggressively engaging people and in general trying to help and make my impact felt. Damdred on the other hand basically was carefully treading the outskirts of the game even when he was around. He never dove into the center of conversation etc. So yes, we were both absent, but the ways in which we did it could not have been any more different.

On January 17 2015 21:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I just couldn't see town palmar agreeing to lynch damdred, scumreading marv, but voting LM with marv and refusing to lynch damdred.

Say it with me 10 times:

I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads
I do not make associative reads

Marv could be bussing, I could be wrong on marv, who cares. It does not make me mafia in any world. And Marv should have been the lynch that day. Yes I'm a bit mad about waffling on Damdred, that's on me, sorry about that.

Half the shit this game that went wrong was because of dumb associative stuff. "Damdred is town because he pushed superbia". I had to argue with this dumbassery repeatedly through the days I tried to lynch damdred. Mafia's agenda is to literally do things that people think they wouldn't do as mafia.

I'm not trying to absolve myself of anything this game. I played badly, got myself lynched. But I don't think I should take 100% of the blame for this one. I'm like fucking nostradamus when it comes to how and when I get lynched as town.

I told you there would come a time where I had to defend myself because of some dumb accusations, and I told you to go read how I respond as town when that stuff comes up.

I'm willing to bet no one even gave the games I linked a glance.

It's a super painful process to go through. But one day people will understand that trying to read me on activity bursts or periods of inactivity is just dumb as hell. I have a job, a family and other obligations. I sometimes play interested and I sometimes don't.

Listen to what I say and how I say it. Not when I say it.