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On January 14 2015 06:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:alright i'm back On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.
Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.
Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.
##vote marvellosity why? Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game. you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has! Who cares. The only thing that's unusual is the activity patches. Literally everything else is exactly how I play town. You know I bus the fuck out of everyone on my team as mafia anyway. well that's wonderful if you're sitting there as town with a town role PM. "i'm playing like town because i am town" is a nothnig argument. your words, more or less precisely - "there is one tell that i know you use that makes me 100% mafia" so we go from that premise, but somehow that tell doesn't seem quite right and i don't quite see how or why. you stepped up your play today, but not to the extent that i quite expected, again leading to uncertainty.
Doesn't matter bro.
also this last sentence is such bs.
It's okay marv. It'll all be over soon.
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On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.
The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.
If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).
you've pushed me when i've been town in many games. cmon palmar.
okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.
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On January 14 2015 06:13 KelsierSC wrote:
LM can you explain to me why marv looks worse than palmar?
Are you mafia?
Why am I mafia? I'm the towniest man on earth right now.
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On January 14 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:On January 14 2015 06:07 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred. is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read. Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain? Explain I don't have reads on damdred = won't lynch I think he is scum = lynch Instead, you gave a really unclear answer. But the lynch today should be damdred. I've played with damdred a lot and I'm positive he is mafia. mafia isn't binary. Yes it is 1 = Lynch 0 = No Lynch
math checks out.
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On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.
The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.
If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).
you've pushed me when i've been town in many games. cmon palmar. okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.
Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.
It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.
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On January 14 2015 06:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar if you don't fucking vote Damdred I'm fucking voting you.
Okay dear.
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On January 14 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.
The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.
If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).
you've pushed me when i've been town in many games. cmon palmar. okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation. Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia. It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum. BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened. and that's to everyone.
And in what universe does townMarv believe that scumPalmar is dumb enough to think that dropping random digs at townMarv is going to get townMarv lynched?
Like I know my scumplay isn't great, but that's bs man. I'd pocket the hell out of you if you were town and I was mafia. That, or kill you. Not let you live until day 4 yet constantly call you out for random shot.
It's basically impossible I'm not your top town atm.
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On January 14 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.
The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.
If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).
you've pushed me when i've been town in many games. cmon palmar. okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation. Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia. It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum. BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened. and that's to everyone. And in what universe does townMarv believe that scumPalmar is dumb enough to think that dropping random digs at townMarv is going to get townMarv lynched? Like I know my scumplay isn't great, but that's bs man. I'd pocket the hell out of you if you were town and I was mafia. That, or kill you. Not let you live until day 4 yet constantly call you out for random shot. It's basically impossible I'm not your top town atm. I don't, I thought that's your way of vaguely keeping up appearances and "contributing" with your traditional scumread on me. except you refused to ever flesh it out (like you usually do), so I called you out.
Okay call me top town now.
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On January 14 2015 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
you're pushing me retardedly, you can piss right off.
like literally everything I say hangs together because IT ALL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I AM TOWN AND THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED
Sure, you make sense. You just don't help.
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Like why do you even care if I'm trying to lynch you. Go talk to the others and tell someone who is mafia.
Don't you think GB looks better in recent pages?
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On January 14 2015 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:
You have 5 minutes to change your vote, palmar, or I'll be voting you.
I don't negotiate with terrorists.
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On January 14 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
you're very much not helping right now.
like everything in my play is townmarv, from the large filter to the actually playing the game, to the pushing the mafia i'm certain of.
literally the only thing that should make people doubt is that i didn't hardpush on day 1 for a deadline i'm not around for or something?
You never even came close to lynching ritoky who you called out literally in your entrance post. I'm also 5 hours from the deadline, didn't stop me actually getting shit done.
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On January 14 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:
Like why do you even care if I'm trying to lynch you. Go talk to the others and tell someone who is mafia.
Don't you think GB looks better in recent pages? No, I think he's pushing mislynches. Two of them. And fucking please, you know what i'm like when people are pushing me. do you remember the game you made me ragequit from?
Yes, you can't handle the heat.
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Why didn't you follow up on ritoky day 1, or even attempt to make anyone listen to you?
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it's not like ritoky's posting improved at all.
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Like I think the only thing you said after the vote and explaining why he was mafia (something which sounded actually kinda ok) is ask damdred "what was good about the followup" or something.
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On January 14 2015 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:
Like why do you even care if I'm trying to lynch you. Go talk to the others and tell someone who is mafia.
Don't you think GB looks better in recent pages? No, I think he's pushing mislynches. Two of them.And fucking please, you know what i'm like when people are pushing me. do you remember the game you made me ragequit from? Oh so damdred is town?
Marv has been pretty clear that the scum team must necessarily be:
LM, GB, Chez.
He has cleared everyone else except me and I'm town.
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On January 14 2015 06:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:35 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you follow up on ritoky day 1, or even attempt to make anyone listen to you? he was absent for a long time that day, and only came back shortly after bed, didn't feel certain enough to push at the time, was tired, geript looked like a really good lynch
but you basically got ignored though.
you didn't mind at all?
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On January 14 2015 06:39 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 01:55 marvellosity wrote:
pretty doubtful, unless something comes up that's better than what i've seen.
to an extent I agree with Plam that Damdred has been less assertive than I might expect, but the difference is nowhere near what i'm seeing. his push on Superbia d2 was pretty good and actually quite assertive, in some ways it was bad luck (?) that it didn't yield results that day. Also similarly with his VE push (even though wrong)
and a couple of little things like how he questioned sl on his greencheck on him Does this looks clear to you?
Of course not.
scum marv doesnt' like giving hard reads except on universal townreads (atm basically artanis and sl).
btw, I've seriously started questioning sl's status as a confirmed. But we can deal with that later.
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On January 14 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:39 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:38 marvellosity wrote:On January 14 2015 06:35 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you follow up on ritoky day 1, or even attempt to make anyone listen to you? he was absent for a long time that day, and only came back shortly after bed, didn't feel certain enough to push at the time, was tired, geript looked like a really good lynch but you basically got ignored though. you didn't mind at all? see bold
Well he wasn't a good lynch.
I'm bad, what's your excuse?
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